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"towelie" |
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30 Jul 2004 08:59:12 PM |
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Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4935.shtml
The widow of former President, and Republican icon, Ronald Reagan has told
the GOP she wants nothing to do with their upcoming national convention or
the re-election campaign of President George W. Bush.
Nancy Reagan turned down numerous invitations to appear at the Republican
National Convention and has warned the Bush campaign she will not tolerate
any use of her or her late husbands words or images in the President's
re-election effort.
"Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither to
most members of the President's family," says a spokesman for the former
First Lady.
Reagan's son, Ron, spoke at the just-concluded Democratic National
Convention and writes in next month's Esquire magazine that "George W. Bush
and his administration have taken normal mendacity to a startling new level
far beyond lies of convenience. They traffic in big lies."
Ron Reagan is joined by his sister Patty in opposing Bush's re-election
effort. Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports
the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.
Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan's biological child.
He was adopted by Reagan during the actor's first marriage to actress Jane
Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.
"He is her favorite," Michael Reagan told Fox News. "Ron can do no wrong. I
mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong."
Ron, however, claims George W. Bush has destroyed the Republican Party his
father helped build.
"My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but
himself," Reagan writes in Esquire. "His Republican Party, furthermore,
seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to the
religious right."
The Reagans' split with Bush and the party centers around stem cell research
which many believe can help find a cure for Alzheimer's, the disease that
crippled President Reagan in his final years. Bush and the
ultra-conservative wing of the Republican Party oppose use of new stem
cells. The Reagans, with the exception of Michael, support such use.
There's more to the feud than that, however. Nancy Reagan has told close
followers she believes Bush and the current Republican leadership have
divided America with their extreme views. She has told Republican leaders
she wants nothing to do with the party or Bush.
During the week of Reagan's funeral, the former First Lady "went ballistic"
when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads that used
Reagan's photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his
re-election. She personally called Republican Party Chief Ed Gillespie to
demand the ads be destroyed.
Republican strategists admit the ads were produced but never ran. They were
pulled after scoring poorly with focus groups where viewers found them in
"poor taste."
"Mrs. Reagan doesn't care why the ads were pulled. She just wanted to make
sure they never went on the air," says a spokesman for the First Lady. "She
does care about whether or not the memory of President Reagan is used for
political purposes."
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 02:25:55 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2n0cneFr8j9aU1@uni-berlin.de...
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4935.shtml
[...]
Ron, however, claims George W. Bush has destroyed the Republican Party his
father helped build.
"My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but
himself," Reagan writes in Esquire. "His Republican Party, furthermore,
seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to the
religious right."
Ron Reagan keeps saying this, but I'm not buying it. It was Ronald Reagan's
obeisance to the religious right that made the Republican Party what it is
today. It was back in 1981 (I think) that Barry Goldwater said every good
Christian should line up to kick Jerry Falwell's *****, and on the Senate
floor he said he was sick and tired of people telling him he was going to
hell if he didn't vote the way "Christians" ought to vote.
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 03:31:05 AM |
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"Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net> wrote in message
news:7QHOc.2239$y8.1186@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2n0cneFr8j9aU1@uni-berlin.de...
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_4935.shtml
[...]
Ron, however, claims George W. Bush has destroyed the Republican Party
his
father helped build.
"My father, acting roles excepted, never pretended to be anyone but
himself," Reagan writes in Esquire. "His Republican Party, furthermore,
seems a far cry from the current model, with its cringing obeisance to
the
religious right."
Ron Reagan keeps saying this, but I'm not buying it. It was Ronald
Reagan's
obeisance to the religious right that made the Republican Party what it is
today. It was back in 1981 (I think) that Barry Goldwater said every good
Christian should line up to kick Jerry Falwell's *****, and on the Senate
floor he said he was sick and tired of people telling him he was going to
hell if he didn't vote the way "Christians" ought to vote.
Reagan talked the talk with the fundamentalists, but he didn't walk the
walk. The religious right was actually quite hacked off at him and feeling
used as I recall it. I'd take Reagan over Shrub any day (in the same sense
that I'd choose a nail through my foot rather than through the skull).
Raptor514
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 09:15:00 AM |
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Ron Reagan keeps saying this, but I'm not buying it. It was Ronald Reagan's
obeisance to the religious right that made the Republican Party what it is
today. It was back in 1981 (I think) that Barry Goldwater said every good
Christian should line up to kick Jerry Falwell's *****
Remember why he said this. Goldwater said this in response to Falwell's
criticism of Reagan's appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme Court.
Falwell objected to the nominiation because he believed that O'Connor would
oppose government control of reproductive decisions, while the Religious Right
supports increased big-government restrictions. Falwell said, "Every good
Christian should be concerned." Goldwater made his response to this particular
comment.
However, Reagan was the one who opened the door of government power for the
anti-American Christian supremacists and they're not going to go quietly now
that they've trashed the house.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 03:13:45 PM |
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"Lord Calvert" <forlornh@aol.complicated> wrote in message
news:20040731101500.04176.00001679@mb-m26.aol.com...
Ron Reagan keeps saying this, but I'm not buying it. It was Ronald
Reagan's
obeisance to the religious right that made the Republican Party what it
is
today. It was back in 1981 (I think) that Barry Goldwater said every good
Christian should line up to kick Jerry Falwell's *****
Remember why he said this. Goldwater said this in response to Falwell's
criticism of Reagan's appointment of Sandra Day O'Connor to the Supreme
Court.
Falwell objected to the nominiation because he believed that O'Connor
would
oppose government control of reproductive decisions, while the Religious
Right
supports increased big-government restrictions. Falwell said, "Every good
Christian should be concerned." Goldwater made his response to this
particular
comment.
Aha, and here I though it was just a general complaint. Thanks for the
clarification.
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| User: "MrPepper11" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 10:26:33 AM |
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"towelie" <bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2n0cneFr8j9aU1@uni-berlin.de>...
"Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither to
most members of the President's family," says a spokesman for the former
First Lady.
...
There's more to the feud than that, however. Nancy Reagan has told close
followers she believes Bush and the current Republican leadership have
divided America with their extreme views. She has told Republican leaders
she wants nothing to do with the party or Bush.
During the week of Reagan's funeral, the former First Lady "went ballistic"
when she learned the Bush campaign was test marketing new ads that used
Reagan's photos and speeches in an effort to show he supported Bush and his
re-election. She personally called Republican Party Chief Ed Gillespie to
demand the ads be destroyed.
Give this lady a round of applause. Horoscope says the evil monkey
will be evicted in November.
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 02:18:08 AM |
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In alt.atheism on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:59:12 -0500, "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
"Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither to
most members of the President's family," says a spokesman for the former
First Lady.
<snip>
Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports
the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan's biological child.
He was adopted by Reagan during the actor's first marriage to actress Jane
Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.
"He is her favorite," Michael Reagan told Fox News. "Ron can do no wrong. I
mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong."
Sorry to hear it. Whether that's a real or imagined perception,
that's a difficult thing to grow up with.
<snip>
Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the
current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme
views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with
the party or Bush.
<snip>
This is a pleasant surprise. I wonder if the neo-cons will be able to
formulate an effective response to this without coming across as
malicious, blood-thirsty wolves. From what I gather, I think their
best bet would be to just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "Raptor514" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 01:11:27 AM |
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"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:410b4419.5254708@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:59:12 -0500, "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
"Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither to
most members of the President's family," says a spokesman for the former
First Lady.
<snip>
Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports
the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan's biological
child.
He was adopted by Reagan during the actor's first marriage to actress
Jane
Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.
"He is her favorite," Michael Reagan told Fox News. "Ron can do no wrong.
I
mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong."
Sorry to hear it. Whether that's a real or imagined perception,
that's a difficult thing to grow up with.
<snip>
Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the
current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme
views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with
the party or Bush.
<snip>
This is a pleasant surprise. I wonder if the neo-cons will be able to
formulate an effective response to this without coming across as
malicious, blood-thirsty wolves. From what I gather, I think their
best bet would be to just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
It'll be easy for them to ignore. The mainstream media is already doing
just that.
Raptor514
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L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Nancy Reagan to Bush: 'We Don't Support Your Re-Election' |
31 Jul 2004 11:24:16 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:11:27 +0000, Raptor514 wrote:
"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:410b4419.5254708@newsgroups.bellsouth.net...
In alt.atheism on Fri, 30 Jul 2004 20:59:12 -0500, "towelie"
<bugoNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
"Mrs. Reagan does not support President Bush's re-election and neither to
most members of the President's family," says a spokesman for the former
First Lady.
<snip>
Only brother Michael Reagan, a conservative talk show host, supports
the President and claims Ron is manipulating his mother.
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
Unlike the other Reagan children, Michael is not Reagan's biological
child.
He was adopted by Reagan during the actor's first marriage to actress
Jane
Wyman and often complains that his stepmother, Nancy, likes Ron best.
"He is her favorite," Michael Reagan told Fox News. "Ron can do no wrong.
I
mean, basically that's it, Ron can do no wrong."
Sorry to hear it. Whether that's a real or imagined perception,
that's a difficult thing to grow up with.
<snip>
Nancy Reagan has told close followers she believes Bush and the
current Republican leadership have divided America with their extreme
views. She has told Republican leaders she wants nothing to do with
the party or Bush.
<snip>
This is a pleasant surprise. I wonder if the neo-cons will be able to
formulate an effective response to this without coming across as
malicious, blood-thirsty wolves. From what I gather, I think their
best bet would be to just ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist.
It'll be easy for them to ignore. The mainstream media is already doing
just that.
So much for the 'liberal' media. Damned cowards.
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| User: "Eris" |
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31 Jul 2004 10:42:18 AM |
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:18:08 GMT, (Uncle
Dollar Bill) wrote:
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
By all accounts Nancy is a ball busting manipulative person. No one
influences Nancy, except for of course astrologists!
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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31 Jul 2004 02:07:43 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:42:18 -0400, Eris
<vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:18:08 GMT, (Uncle
Dollar Bill) wrote:
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
By all accounts Nancy is a ball busting manipulative person. No one
influences Nancy, except for of course astrologists!
That's pretty much what I thought. So I don't get why this other son
is saying that about her. Is he mentally deficient, by chance? Or
does he just think the rest of the country is? 'Cuz my impression of
Mrs. Reagan is that one would _have_ to be mentally deficient to
believe that _anyone_ could tell her what to think.
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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| User: "Uncle Dollar Bill" |
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31 Jul 2004 02:08:19 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Sat, 31 Jul 2004 19:07:43 GMT,
(Uncle Dollar Bill) wrote:
In alt.atheism on Sat, 31 Jul 2004 11:42:18 -0400, Eris
<vithant01@comcast.net> wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 07:18:08 GMT, (Uncle
Dollar Bill) wrote:
Wow. He has a very low opinion of his mother, doesn't he? Or is Mrs.
Reagan really so easily addled by the opinions of others?
By all accounts Nancy is a ball busting manipulative person. No one
influences Nancy, except for of course astrologists!
That's pretty much what I thought. So I don't get why this other son
is saying that about her. Is he mentally deficient, by chance? Or
does he just think the rest of the country is? 'Cuz my impression of
Mrs. Reagan is that one would _have_ to be mentally deficient to
believe that _anyone_ could tell her what to think.
Oops - except, of course, for the afore-mentioned astrologer, of
course... ;-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
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