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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
That should be of paramount concern to any believer before taking a
position. Yet, I seldom hear it discussed. Some might even suggest the
Bible is silent on the issue.
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Nations were first established by God as a judgment in Genesis 11.
Remember the Tower of Babel story? It seems there was a man named
Nimrod who attempted to set up the first world government and the
first false religion.
After the Flood, God decreed that man should scatter across the whole
earth and be fruitful and multiply. But, about 100 years later, a
large contingent of men, under the leadership of Nimrod, whose very
name means "let us revolt or rebel," decided they would settle in
Shinar and build a tower to make a name for themselves.
God foiled this plan by scattering them around the world and creating
new languages among the new nations that were thus established.
Make no mistake about it: Nation-states are an invention of the
Creator - a deliberately chosen device to serve His purposes.
That's what we're told in Acts 17:26-27: That God "hath made of one
blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of
their habitation; That they should seek the Lord."
Ultimately, the purpose of nation-states seems to be to restrain
Satan's efforts at creating his kingdom on earth. That will happen
eventually - only when God Himself permits it in His timing, as shown
in Revelation 17:17: "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his
will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the
words of God shall be fulfilled." But nation-states serve another
purpose as well - to be God's instruments on earth for meting out
justice and providing protection for the people. (Deuteronomy
17:14-17)
Ultimately, the debate about borders and illegal immigration is a
debate about national sovereignty. You have heard it said that if we
don't have borders, we don't have countries. It's really true -
especially when two countries very different from one another in
language, culture and economy share a 2,000-mile border as do Mexico
and the U.S.
Illegal immigration didn't just happen because no one was paying
attention. President Bush made it clear on any number of occasions
that he believed it made good economic sense to allow millions and
millions of illegal aliens to enter our country, in spite of our laws,
because they were willing to do work Americans weren't willing to do.
He didn't try to change the laws first. As chief executive of the
country, Bush simply decided not to enforce the laws of the land. That
was wrong. It was immoral. It was illegal. It was a violation of his
constitutional oath of office.
Furthermore, the problem didn't begin with Bush. Back in 1993, the
North American Free Trade Agreement was approved by Congress and
Bush's predecessor, Bill Clinton. This agreement, which was supposed
to stem the tide of illegal immigration by stimulating the economy of
Mexico, had the exact opposite effect. It wrecked it beyond all
recognition, stimulating, instead, a massive exodus of Mexican workers
to the U.S. trying to provide for their families.
Again, this was no accident. It was not just a mistake. It was, I
believe, an effort to "harmonize" the two countries - to begin
integrating them, erasing the differences between them, mixing the
populations to such an extent that discussions of merging the three
major North American nations along the lines of the European Union
would no longer seem inappropriate.
In other words, what is happening in North America and Europe and
Africa and Asia - breaking down the barriers of nation-state
sovereignty - is not that much different from what happened back in
the days of the Tower of Babel.
It is, ultimately, about moving away from differences between nations
that God Himself created for His own divine purposes. It is about
following the path of Nimrod and all the others who have attempted to
build super-states in defiance of God.
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30 Nov 2007 01:22:41 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations of
people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
If anything, the OT is stridently open border...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Behold the foul stench of Skeletor's breakfast burrito!"
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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30 Nov 2007 01:39:51 PM |
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On Nov 30, 11:22 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations of
people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
Strangers were expected to follow the law.
Strangers who engaged in blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, homosexual
intercourse, intercourse between stepmother and stepson, and other
capital crimes were subject to capital punishment just like Jews who
engaged in capital crimes.
Thus, prosecuting strangers for violations of the law does not
constitute oppression.
Michael
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| User: "Michael Price" |
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02 Dec 2007 07:05:15 PM |
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On Dec 1, 6:39 am, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:22 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations of
people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
Strangers were expected to follow the law.
Strangers who engaged in blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, homosexual
intercourse, intercourse between stepmother and stepson, and other
capital crimes were subject to capital punishment just like Jews who
engaged in capital crimes.
Thus, prosecuting strangers for violations of the law does not
constitute oppression.
But nothing in the bible says it's against the law to cross a border
for business purposes. Such activity is mentioned in the bible
several times. Crossing the border to live someone else is also
mentioned, in fact an entire nation did it. Nowhere is it implied
that doing so peacably is against god's will. To believe that
it is you have to believe that laws produced by secular governments
are God's will, which is absurd when you consider how radically
the clash with the Bible, the Koran and all other religious texts.
God did not invent nation-states when the tower of Babel came
down, especially since they did not really exist prior to the Peace
of
Westphalia which was a long time after these supposed events. If
he did create them at that time it was as a punishment!
As for the idea that one world government was Satan's plan how
could he offer the government of all nations to Jesus well before
there was anything like world government? Note that Jesus did
not dispute the ability of Satan to deliver.
Michael
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Nov 2007 05:45:42 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:39:51 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:22 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations of
people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
Strangers were expected to follow the law.
Strangers who engaged in blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, homosexual
intercourse, intercourse between stepmother and stepson, and other
capital crimes were subject to capital punishment just like Jews who
engaged in capital crimes.
Thus, prosecuting strangers for violations of the law does not
constitute oppression.
Yeah the bible is *so* in favor of the rich humans using force to keep
the poor ones at bay...
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“There is always an easy solution to every
problem - neat, plausible, and wrong.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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30 Nov 2007 07:04:13 PM |
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On Nov 30, 3:45 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:39:51 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:22 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations of
people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
Strangers were expected to follow the law.
Strangers who engaged in blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, homosexual
intercourse, intercourse between stepmother and stepson, and other
capital crimes were subject to capital punishment just like Jews who
engaged in capital crimes.
Thus, prosecuting strangers for violations of the law does not
constitute oppression.
Yeah the bible is *so* in favor of the rich humans using force to keep
the poor ones at bay...
the Bible is in favor of rulers using force to execute the wrath of
God Almighty.
Michael
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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01 Dec 2007 09:49:43 AM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:04:13 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 3:45 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 11:39:51 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:22 am, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 08:37:52 -0800, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Yeah, riiiiiight.
All through the OT and I mean *all* *through* *it* are condemnations
of people who mistreat strangers in their lands.
Strangers were expected to follow the law.
Strangers who engaged in blasphemy, idolatry, adultery, homosexual
intercourse, intercourse between stepmother and stepson, and other
capital crimes were subject to capital punishment just like Jews who
engaged in capital crimes.
Thus, prosecuting strangers for violations of the law does not
constitute oppression.
Yeah the bible is *so* in favor of the rich humans using force to keep
the poor ones at bay...
the Bible is in favor of rulers using force to execute the wrath of
God Almighty.
You first.
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach
their heart's desire at last, and the White House will
be adorned by a downright moron.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "jcon" |
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30 Nov 2007 11:27:02 AM |
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On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Kudos to you, Herr Trumpet!
Just when you think nothing more idiotic could be said in an issue,
WordNutDaily
steps up.
Those guys NEVER disappoint!!!
This is going in my "Best of" file.
-jc
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
That should be of paramount concern to any believer before taking a
position. Yet, I seldom hear it discussed. Some might even suggest the
Bible is silent on the issue.
So let's take a look at this issue from a biblical perspective.
Nations were first established by God as a judgment in Genesis 11.
Remember the Tower of Babel story? It seems there was a man named
Nimrod who attempted to set up the first world government and the
first false religion.
After the Flood, God decreed that man should scatter across the whole
earth and be fruitful and multiply. But, about 100 years later, a
large contingent of men, under the leadership of Nimrod, whose very
name means "let us revolt or rebel," decided they would settle in
Shinar and build a tower to make a name for themselves.
God foiled this plan by scattering them around the world and creating
new languages among the new nations that were thus established.
Make no mistake about it: Nation-states are an invention of the
Creator - a deliberately chosen device to serve His purposes.
That's what we're told in Acts 17:26-27: That God "hath made of one
blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth,
and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of
their habitation; That they should seek the Lord."
Ultimately, the purpose of nation-states seems to be to restrain
Satan's efforts at creating his kingdom on earth. That will happen
eventually - only when God Himself permits it in His timing, as shown
in Revelation 17:17: "For God hath put in their hearts to fulfill his
will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the
words of God shall be fulfilled." But nation-states serve another
purpose as well - to be God's instruments on earth for meting out
justice and providing protection for the people. (Deuteronomy
17:14-17)
Ultimately, the debate about borders and illegal immigration is a
debate about national sovereignty. You have heard it said that if we
don't have borders, we don't have countries. It's really true -
especially when two countries very different from one another in
language, culture and economy share a 2,000-mile border as do Mexico
and the U.S.
Illegal immigration didn't just happen because no one was paying
attention. President Bush made it clear on any number of occasions
that he believed it made good economic sense to allow millions and
millions of illegal aliens to enter our country, in spite of our laws,
because they were willing to do work Americans weren't willing to do.
He didn't try to change the laws first. As chief executive of the
country, Bush simply decided not to enforce the laws of the land. That
was wrong. It was immoral. It was illegal. It was a violation of his
constitutional oath of office.
Furthermore, the problem didn't begin with Bush. Back in 1993, the
North American Free Trade Agreement was approved by Congress and
Bush's predecessor, Bill Clinton. This agreement, which was supposed
to stem the tide of illegal immigration by stimulating the economy of
Mexico, had the exact opposite effect. It wrecked it beyond all
recognition, stimulating, instead, a massive exodus of Mexican workers
to the U.S. trying to provide for their families.
Again, this was no accident. It was not just a mistake. It was, I
believe, an effort to "harmonize" the two countries - to begin
integrating them, erasing the differences between them, mixing the
populations to such an extent that discussions of merging the three
major North American nations along the lines of the European Union
would no longer seem inappropriate.
In other words, what is happening in North America and Europe and
Africa and Asia - breaking down the barriers of nation-state
sovereignty - is not that much different from what happened back in
the days of the Tower of Babel.
It is, ultimately, about moving away from differences between nations
that God Himself created for His own divine purposes. It is about
following the path of Nimrod and all the others who have attempted to
build super-states in defiance of God.
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30 Nov 2007 01:38:10 PM |
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jcon wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Kudos to you, Herr Trumpet!
Just when you think nothing more idiotic could be said in an issue,
WordNutDaily
steps up.
Those guys NEVER disappoint!!!
This is going in my "Best of" file.
Someone over at Scienceblogs linked to this a few days ago. Even by the
Worldnutdaily standards, this is bizarre.
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| User: "jcon" |
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30 Nov 2007 02:20:36 PM |
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On Nov 30, 1:38 pm, Ash <ash.ama...@virgin.net> wrote:
jcon wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Kudos to you, Herr Trumpet!
Just when you think nothing more idiotic could be said in an issue,
WordNutDaily
steps up.
Those guys NEVER disappoint!!!
This is going in my "Best of" file.
Someone over at Scienceblogs linked to this a few days ago. Even by the
Worldnutdaily standards, this is bizarre.
It will go at the top of my "Creme du WorldNut" collection....
God promises no global warming.
Also, good Christians cannot die from thirst, starvation, or exposure:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58513
Soy makes you gay!
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53675
Ted Haggard was a hypocritical closet homosexual and
drug addict, but his *real* problem is that he
was ... environmentalist!
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52904
Indonesian tsunami, which briefly peaked locally at a few
dozen feet, proves Noah's Flood could have covered the
entire Earth at least to the height of Mt. Everest:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=42196
Two from the penguin morality pile:
"March of the stridently heterosexual penguins"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46456
and
"March of the anti-abortion penguins"
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45700
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30 Nov 2007 11:52:49 AM |
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On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
I guess it's only the "work hard for low pay" that God has
a problem with.
-jc
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30 Nov 2007 12:01:05 PM |
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On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
Michael
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Nov 2007 01:23:26 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:01:05 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all our
men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
You don't read the OT much huh?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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30 Nov 2007 12:22:08 PM |
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On Nov 30, 10:01 am, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
First thing you've said that I agree with.
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30 Nov 2007 12:13:39 PM |
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On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
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Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
-jc
Michael
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30 Nov 2007 12:39:14 PM |
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On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Michael
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30 Nov 2007 08:35:52 PM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
You better keep reading in Numbers 31 when Yahweh is directing the
assignment of the 32,000 virgins, 61,000 donkeys, and other livestock.
Sounds more like the women would be allowed to live as sex toys for the
soldiers.
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01 Dec 2007 11:08:11 AM |
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On Nov 30, 6:35 pm, bowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
You better keep reading in Numbers 31 when Yahweh is directing the
assignment of the 32,000 virgins, 61,000 donkeys, and other livestock.
Sounds more like the women would be allowed to live as sex toys for the
soldiers.
I did.
Yahweh did not order anyone to rape the virgins.
Michael
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01 Dec 2007 08:44:46 PM |
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Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:35 pm, bowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
You better keep reading in Numbers 31 when Yahweh is directing the
assignment of the 32,000 virgins, 61,000 donkeys, and other livestock.
Sounds more like the women would be allowed to live as sex toys for the
soldiers.
I did.
Yahweh did not order anyone to rape the virgins.
Numbers 31 numb nuts.
Learn to read before you show your stupidity.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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02 Dec 2007 11:27:43 AM |
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On Dec 1, 8:44 pm, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:35 pm, bowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
You better keep reading in Numbers 31 when Yahweh is directing the
assignment of the 32,000 virgins, 61,000 donkeys, and other livestock.
Sounds more like the women would be allowed to live as sex toys for the
soldiers.
I did.
Yahweh did not order anyone to rape the virgins.
Numbers 31 numb nuts.
Been there, done that. Ejerkoff insists that
"keep them [the young virgins] for yourself"
implies they will be well treated as "guests"
of the Hebrews.
I'm guessing he's also one of those
that argues that there's no slavery in
the Bible
-jc
Learn to read before you show your stupidity.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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02 Dec 2007 12:33:26 PM |
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jcon wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:44 pm, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktaylo...@getnet.net> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 6:35 pm, bowman <bow...@montana.com> wrote:
Michael Ejercito wrote:
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
You better keep reading in Numbers 31 when Yahweh is directing the
assignment of the 32,000 virgins, 61,000 donkeys, and other livestock.
Sounds more like the women would be allowed to live as sex toys for the
soldiers.
I did.
Yahweh did not order anyone to rape the virgins.
Numbers 31 numb nuts.
Been there, done that. Ejerkoff insists that
"keep them [the young virgins] for yourself"
implies they will be well treated as "guests"
of the Hebrews.
I'm guessing he's also one of those
that argues that there's no slavery in
the Bible
-jc
Actually, the little ***** doesn't argue, he makes stupid assertions and
expect people to believe them with out cause.
The Ejaculator is just arrogant and blindly ignorant.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz
A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
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| User: "Michael Price" |
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02 Dec 2007 06:57:43 PM |
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On Dec 1, 5:39 am, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
The text says "keep alive for yourselves" i.e. as slaves not
"strangers".
Nothing in the bible prohibits vexing or oppresions of one's own
slaves.
If Moses had meant to simply let them go he would have said "And
let the ones who have not yet lain with men go.", he didn't.
Michael
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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30 Nov 2007 01:23:54 PM |
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:39:14 -0800, Michael Ejercito wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women
alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
Yeah, sure. That's what the kids were calling it in those days...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“The older I grow the more I distrust the familiar
doctrine that age brings wisdom.”
- H. L. Mencken
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30 Nov 2007 08:37:17 PM |
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Mark K. Bilbo wrote:
Yeah, sure. That's what the kids were calling it in those days...
Everybody likes a strange piece of *****...
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - Illegal Immigration Is Against God's Will |
30 Nov 2007 01:43:19 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> bloodied
us up with this:
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
Yeah, sure. That's what the kids were calling it in those days...
I wonder what those "strangers" were charging for blow jobs in those days.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "jcon" |
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - IllegalImmigration Is Against God's Will |
30 Nov 2007 01:21:38 PM |
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On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
-jc
Michael
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - IllegalImmigration Is Against God's Will |
30 Nov 2007 01:38:09 PM |
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On Nov 30, 11:21 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
The men and married women were not permitted to live or sojourn in
Israel, and as such were not entitled to the Torah's protections due
to strangers.
Michael
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| User: "jcon" |
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - IllegalImmigration Is Against God's Will |
30 Nov 2007 02:16:54 PM |
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On Nov 30, 1:38 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
The men and married women were not permitted to live or sojourn in
Israel, and as such were not entitled to the Torah's protections due
to strangers.
For the sake of argument, if I modified my original statement
as follows:
"Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be
perfectly within their rights if they crossed the border,
killed all our men and *married* women,
and abducted all the young virgins, provided they
refrained from 'vexing' them".
would that make you happy?
-jc
Michael
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| User: "Michael Ejercito" |
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - IllegalImmigration Is Against God's Will |
30 Nov 2007 07:01:51 PM |
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On Nov 30, 12:16 pm, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:38 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am, Sound of Trumpet <sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
The men and married women were not permitted to live or sojourn in
Israel, and as such were not entitled to the Torah's protections due
to strangers.
For the sake of argument, if I modified my original statement
as follows:
"Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be
perfectly within their rights if they crossed the border,
killed all our men and *married* women,
and abducted all the young virgins, provided they
refrained from 'vexing' them".
would that make you happy?
If they were following a divine command from God Almighty, yes.
Michael
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01 Dec 2007 08:32:14 AM |
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On Nov 30, 7:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:16 pm, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:38 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am,SoundofTrumpet<sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
The men and married women were not permitted to live or sojourn in
Israel, and as such were not entitled to the Torah's protections due
to strangers.
For the sake of argument, if I modified my original statement
as follows:
"Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be
perfectly within their rights if they crossed the border,
killed all our men and *married* women,
and abducted all the young virgins, provided they
refrained from 'vexing' them".
would that make you happy?
If they were following a divine command from God Almighty, yes.
So I take it you're a great fan of Osama bin Laden?
-jc
Michael
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| Title: Re: Nation-States Are An Invention Of The Creator - IllegalImmigration Is Against God's Will |
01 Dec 2007 11:04:27 AM |
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On Dec 1, 6:32 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 7:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:16 pm, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 1:38 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 11:21 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:13 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 12:01 pm, Michael Ejercito <mejer...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 9:52 am, jcon <cirej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 30, 10:37 am,SoundofTrumpet<sound_of_trum...@hotpop.com>
wrote:
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58858
A Bible study on illegal immigration
Joseph Farah
Posted: November 26, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
We know what George Bush thinks.
We know what the Minutemen say.
We even sort of know what Hillary Clinton believes about illegal
immigration.
But what does God have to say about it?
Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be perfectly within
their
rights if they grabbed their Bibles, crossed the border, killed all
our men,
raped all our women, and burned our cities to ashes.
God never ordered anyone to rape anyone else.
No, but God didn't seem to mind when Moses did:
Numbers 31:15-18 "And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the
women alive?
Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the
counsel of Balaam,
to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor,
and there was a plague
among the congregation of the LORD. Now therefore kill every
male among
the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by
lying with him.
But all the women children, that have not known a man by
lying with him,
keep alive for yourselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe they were just going to take them out for a nice ice cream.
The women would be allowed to live in Israel as strangers.
God's Law prohibits vexing or oppression of strangers.
Ummm.... Wouldn't slaughtering the men and the married
women fall under the definition of "vexing"?
The men and married women were not permitted to live or sojourn in
Israel, and as such were not entitled to the Torah's protections due
to strangers.
For the sake of argument, if I modified my original statement
as follows:
"Based on the Old Testament, the Mexicans would be
perfectly within their rights if they crossed the border,
killed all our men and *married* women,
and abducted all the young virgins, provided they
refrained from 'vexing' them".
would that make you happy?
If they were following a divine command from God Almighty, yes.
So I take it you're a great fan of Osama bin Laden?
Was he following a command from God Almighty?
Michael
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85% of Bush's Andover Classmates Will Vote Against AWOL In November (re: Why Are NeoCons So Incompetent?)
Atheists are Discriminated Against in Seven State Constitutions
What we atheists are up against...
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| Why atheists and Muslims are natural allies against Christianity
Cowardly Republicans Who Won't Vote For or Against Anti-Lynching Apology & Won't Say Who They Are
Re:"Robin Hood Zero's" LIES ARE GREAT FUN TO LAUGH AT!!!!! ==> Judge Weinstein Okays NYC Lawsuit Against Gun Companies
Jews are prosecuted for Treason against God and His Kingdom: Europe, save Malta and Albania, all Russia, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand
Christians are against abortion, but their president is againstchildren's healthcare
Most Americans do not understand evolution so they are against "it"
HERE THEY ARE! - The Cowardly Republicans Who Voted Against the Anti-Lynching Aopology
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