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Religions > Atheism |
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"johac" |
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07 Apr 2006 01:58:26 AM |
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National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
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http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
07 Apr 2006 02:03:58 AM |
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johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Pace Car Driver
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
08 Apr 2006 12:59:56 AM |
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In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1611242.htm
I wonder when we'll see the novel followed by the movie?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
12 Apr 2006 05:26:25 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1611242.htm
I wonder when we'll see the novel followed by the movie?
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
13 Apr 2006 12:32:09 AM |
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In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
14 Apr 2006 09:59:25 AM |
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On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
15 Apr 2006 12:57:34 AM |
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In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
17 Apr 2006 07:36:36 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-F3D769.22573414042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
We have it IPU to thank for that.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
16 Apr 2006 12:32:19 PM |
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On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
16 Apr 2006 11:27:55 PM |
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In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
17 Apr 2006 07:40:32 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-87D05C.21275516042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
And it what used to be Yugoslavia, they used rape and murder to carry
out their schemes. I think they canonized some people for doing that
during WWII. I'm sure the Muslims and Orthodox did they same to them
when they had the chance.
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any
charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgement of his
peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totali-
tarian government whether Nazi or Communist." -- W. Churchill, Nov 21, 1943
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
18 Apr 2006 01:10:25 AM |
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In article <proto-12687B.08403217042006@reader1.panix.com>,
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-87D05C.21275516042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article
<1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a
few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
And it what used to be Yugoslavia, they used rape and murder to carry
out their schemes. I think they canonized some people for doing that
during WWII. I'm sure the Muslims and Orthodox did they same to them
when they had the chance.
I'm sure that they did. Given some of the people who have been canonized
recently, I can't say much for sainthood.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
18 Apr 2006 11:51:01 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:10:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <proto-12687B.08403217042006@reader1.panix.com>,
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-87D05C.21275516042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article
<1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a
few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
And it what used to be Yugoslavia, they used rape and murder to carry
out their schemes. I think they canonized some people for doing that
during WWII. I'm sure the Muslims and Orthodox did they same to them
when they had the chance.
I'm sure that they did. Given some of the people who have been canonized
recently, I can't say much for sainthood.
Sure you can. You can point out sainthood (with few exceptions)
presents the most depraved, sociopathic, psychopatic, meglomania, and
psychotic inflicted individuals forward as examples worthy of emulation.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
19 Apr 2006 01:00:49 AM |
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In article <8u5a42l0b2kkdq25aa6tm3i42brj312j0r@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:10:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <proto-12687B.08403217042006@reader1.panix.com>,
Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-87D05C.21275516042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article
<1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a
few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale
is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
And it what used to be Yugoslavia, they used rape and murder to carry
out their schemes. I think they canonized some people for doing that
during WWII. I'm sure the Muslims and Orthodox did they same to them
when they had the chance.
I'm sure that they did. Given some of the people who have been canonized
recently, I can't say much for sainthood.
Sure you can. You can point out sainthood (with few exceptions)
presents the most depraved, sociopathic, psychopatic, meglomania, and
psychotic inflicted individuals forward as examples worthy of emulation.
Very few exceptions.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
17 Apr 2006 11:22:58 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 08:40:32 -0400, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <jhachmann-87D05C.21275516042006@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
[]
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
And it what used to be Yugoslavia, they used rape and murder to carry
out their schemes. I think they canonized some people for doing that
during WWII. I'm sure the Muslims and Orthodox did they same to them
when they had the chance.
Don't forget cannonized....
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
17 Apr 2006 11:22:11 AM |
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On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:27:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
They tossed a black or white ***** on the fire, of course...
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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18 Apr 2006 01:06:55 AM |
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In article <n4g742pv87qp7tiq2jk48vdks46h43kni9@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:27:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
They tossed a black or white ***** on the fire, of course...
Heh! Or perhaps a writer of heretical books or producer of heretical
movies like the upcoming 'Da Vinci Code'.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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18 Apr 2006 11:52:17 AM |
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On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:06:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <n4g742pv87qp7tiq2jk48vdks46h43kni9@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:27:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
They tossed a black or white ***** on the fire, of course...
Heh! Or perhaps a writer of heretical books or producer of heretical
movies like the upcoming 'Da Vinci Code'.
Jebus does get a woodie from the dulcet screams and the scent of burning
flesh.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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19 Apr 2006 01:02:04 AM |
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In article <d86a42p5hhifm0a63afe7o3fb7i7u1fjs3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Apr 2006 23:06:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <n4g742pv87qp7tiq2jk48vdks46h43kni9@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2006 21:27:55 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <lrv4421tu29qnjj51lr70rrv6cn9h0r778@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 22:57:34 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <65ev329aft0hnj2tgr5ekehlqjgh2i1s3k@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:32:09 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <bjvq32pj0886fr7vfijnqggk1b4hn1vu9e@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article
<1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a
few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
They tossed a black or white ***** on the fire, of course...
Heh! Or perhaps a writer of heretical books or producer of heretical
movies like the upcoming 'Da Vinci Code'.
Jebus does get a woodie from the dulcet screams and the scent of burning
flesh.
'Heretics roasting on an open fire....'
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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20 Apr 2006 09:48:04 AM |
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On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 23:02:04 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <d86a42p5hhifm0a63afe7o3fb7i7u1fjs3@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
In article
<1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive
segment
on
the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His
website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a
few
years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
The Vatican is living a superstitious fantasy.
And yet they object to any fantasy but their own. "My fairy tale is
right and your fairy tale is wrong. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!"
Yes. They're looking to the bottom line.
At least they haven't burnt any of the competition at the stake for a
while.
That you know of.
When they elected the pope, I always wondered how they got that smoke to
come out of the chimney.
They tossed a black or white ***** on the fire, of course...
Heh! Or perhaps a writer of heretical books or producer of heretical
movies like the upcoming 'Da Vinci Code'.
Jebus does get a woodie from the dulcet screams and the scent of burning
flesh.
'Heretics roasting on an open fire....'
The 'rotisserie' song.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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08 Apr 2006 09:22:07 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
Hmmm..."religious fantasy"...is that like a double negative
(2-(-2)=+4) meaning that a religious fantasy is reality? So the
Vatican denounces reality...yes...that sounds about right.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1611242.htm
I wonder when we'll see the novel followed by the movie?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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09 Apr 2006 12:52:52 AM |
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In article <4437c657.308813199@Newsgroups.Comcast.net>,
(William Wingstedt) wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 22:59:56 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
Hmmm..."religious fantasy"...is that like a double negative
(2-(-2)=+4) meaning that a religious fantasy is reality? So the
Vatican denounces reality...yes...that sounds about right.
Just as in the case of the 'Da Vinci Code' they are upset because the
new myth doesn't agree with the old myth.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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08 Apr 2006 01:11:33 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <1144393438.441561.196590@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
---
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
Well, they'd certainly be an expert witness in the field of religious
fantasy.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1611242.htm
Interesting article. I notice Dr. Choat mentions that it's possible
that some "gospels" are not reliable:
"That is, the Gospel of Mary Magdalene responds to a debate about
female leadership in the Church and the Gospel of Thomas responds to
certain questions about the nature of the Kingdom of Heaven. So in
question of reliability of talking about Jesus' life, some of them
don't have very much to offer."
But never quite gets around to mentioning that perhaps they *all* could
be unreliable. And the priest saying it's not a `real' gospel because
Irenaeus tossed it in 180CE was priceless. These morons haven't learned
a fucking thing in almost two thousand years.
I wonder when we'll see the novel followed by the movie?
Heh. Judas `n' Jesus, sittin' in a tree! K-I-S-S-I-N-G! Maybe it would
take their minds off this whole "DaVinci" thing..<g>
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Pace Car Driver
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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08 Apr 2006 08:37:33 AM |
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wrote in alt.atheism
johac wrote:
wrote:
johac wrote:
The National Geographic site has an extensive interactive segment on the
subject.
If anyone is interested, it will be on TV next sunday.
http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/gospel/
Very interesting. I wish Peter Kirby still posted here. His website's
not updated about this (other than mentioning its discovery a few years
back) and I wonder what he thinks of it.
Already the Vatican is denouncing it as "religious fantasy".
Well, they'd certainly be an expert witness in the field of religious
fantasy.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1611242.htm
Interesting article. I notice Dr. Choat mentions that it's possible
that some "gospels" are not reliable:
"That is, the Gospel of Mary Magdalene responds to a debate about
female leadership in the Church and the Gospel of Thomas responds to
certain questions about the nature of the Kingdom of Heaven. So in
question of reliability of talking about Jesus' life, some of them
don't have very much to offer."
But never quite gets around to mentioning that perhaps they *all* could
be unreliable.
Thinking that is heresy! You'd burn in hell forever!
And the priest saying it's not a `real' gospel because Irenaeus tossed
it in 180CE was priceless. These morons haven't learned a fucking thing
in almost two thousand years.
I wonder when we'll see the novel followed by the movie?
Heh. Judas `n' Jesus, sittin' in a tree! K-I-S-S-I-N-G! Maybe it would
take their minds off this whole "DaVinci" thing..<g>
That whole part of the story reeks of pure fiction. If Jesus actually
wanted to be turned over for prosecution/execution, why did he need
a fall guy or betrayer? He could've just marched into town and said
"Here I am, do with me what you will."
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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17 Apr 2006 06:32:30 PM |
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Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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18 Apr 2006 12:08:25 AM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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19 Apr 2006 11:46:36 PM |
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In article <qsadndAI7teg6dnZRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
I remember that. I saw it too and so did a lot of other people. Another
case of protests backfiring was when the Brooklyn Museum of art showed
the picture of the Blessed virgin decorated with elephant dung. The
fundies screamed about it and even Mayor Giuliani of New York jumped in.
the result was extraordinary attendance. On some days the line waiting
to get in to see stretched around the block more than once.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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20 Apr 2006 11:15:55 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8C42C1.21463619042006@news.giganews.com...
In article <qsadndAI7teg6dnZRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
I remember that. I saw it too and so did a lot of other people. Another
case of protests backfiring was when the Brooklyn Museum of art showed
the picture of the Blessed virgin decorated with elephant dung. The
fundies screamed about it and even Mayor Giuliani of New York jumped in.
the result was extraordinary attendance. On some days the line waiting
to get in to see stretched around the block more than once.
Look what christian bitching did for the Harry Potter books.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
Atheist ***** Extraordinaire
#1557
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| User: "George Ricker" |
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20 Apr 2006 12:38:31 PM |
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In article <4apq98Fuci6aU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8C42C1.21463619042006@news.giganews.com...
In article <qsadndAI7teg6dnZRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
I remember that. I saw it too and so did a lot of other people. Another
case of protests backfiring was when the Brooklyn Museum of art showed
the picture of the Blessed virgin decorated with elephant dung. The
fundies screamed about it and even Mayor Giuliani of New York jumped in.
the result was extraordinary attendance. On some days the line waiting
to get in to see stretched around the block more than once.
Look what christian bitching did for the Harry Potter books.
I think it was Kurt Vonnegut who said years ago that he always viewed
efforts to censor his works with mixed emotions. On one hand he deplored
the mentality behind the censorship. But on the other, he couldn't deny
that such efforts always boosted the sales of the books and,
consequently, his own royalties.
That was the gist of the comment as I recall, though Vonnegut doubtless
said it with more wit and less verbiage.
--
George Ricker
"Godless in America" by George Ricker is now available at amazon.com.
Go to http://www.godlessinamerica.com for more information.
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
21 Apr 2006 12:11:00 AM |
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In article <4apq98Fuci6aU1@individual.net>,
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8C42C1.21463619042006@news.giganews.com...
In article <qsadndAI7teg6dnZRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
I remember that. I saw it too and so did a lot of other people. Another
case of protests backfiring was when the Brooklyn Museum of art showed
the picture of the Blessed virgin decorated with elephant dung. The
fundies screamed about it and even Mayor Giuliani of New York jumped in.
the result was extraordinary attendance. On some days the line waiting
to get in to see stretched around the block more than once.
Look what christian bitching did for the Harry Potter books.
Yep, and the movies. I'm sure it's the same with "The Da Vinci Code"
book and the upcoming movie.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: National Geographic: The gospel of Judas |
21 Apr 2006 03:33:55 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 12:15:55 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in alt.atheism
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8C42C1.21463619042006@news.giganews.com...
In article <qsadndAI7teg6dnZRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1145316750.622169.146680@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Elroy Willis wrote:
Also, what doesn't make sense, is that Christians believe that it was
the mission of Jesus to die on the cross, so why do they blame anyone
at all for betraying him? Someone had to do it, so why not consider
the one who did it a hero, since it helped to accomplish the plan?
<Beats self on head> Oh, what *was* the name of that Nikolas
Kazantzakis book that was turned into a movie in the late 80's-early
90's??? Starred Willem DaFoe as Jeebus. The Fundies had a total
*****-fit over it, boycotted the theaters and everything. Anyway, the
central premise of the film was precisely that Judas was a hero, and
"betrayed" Jesus at his own request.
Damn, I wish my memory was worth a damn.... >=<
The Last Temptation of Christ". The protestors marched
close enough to the ticket line for me to ask them if any
of them had actually seen the movie. Of course, none of
them had. So I very nicely informed them that they didn't
know what they were marching against. They didn't like
that. I'm sure that they also didn't like the fact that their
protest caused a lot more people to see the movie out of
curiosity over what they were bellyaching about.
I remember that. I saw it too and so did a lot of other people. Another
case of protests backfiring was when the Brooklyn Museum of art showed
the picture of the Blessed virgin decorated with elephant dung. The
fundies screamed about it and even Mayor Giuliani of New York jumped in.
the result was extraordinary attendance. On some days the line waiting
to get in to see stretched around the block more than once.
Look what christian bitching did for the Harry Potter books.
The morons never learn.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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