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"Zonoma Sekot" |
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09 Dec 2005 08:10:48 AM |
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Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 08:53:36 AM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 12:09:09 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:5h6jp11sbpae2cp4cm6rbuc27cgc0ar5ch@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
================
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
CR...........
Libel, slander and defamation of character:
From: (JaBrIoL/Antonio L Santana).
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-
witn,alt.talk.creationism,alt.atheism,alt.feminism,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
sure.. I know now you get ugly and nasty and I strike up the truth...
you are really mad that you have a ***** negro child, a dishonor to
the lithuanian community.
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****..
me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 12:37:15 PM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:5h6jp11sbpae2cp4cm6rbuc27cgc0ar5ch@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
================
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 04:54:38 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:f6jjp194sig3maimptgugodjcc9la2mdpr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using
the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's
chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
==============
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
========================
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip" off
the irrelevant NGs he's infesting like a cockroach. That may keep his crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
Cracklin'.......
Libel, slander and defamation of character:
From: (JaBrIoL)gives a fine "witness."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-
witn,alt.talk.creationism,alt.atheism,alt.feminism,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
sure.. I know now you get ugly and nasty and I strike up the truth...
you are really mad that you have a ***** negro child, a dishonor to
the lithuanian community.
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****..
me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "cat daddy" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 06:03:25 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:439a020b$0$27913$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:f6jjp194sig3maimptgugodjcc9la2mdpr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using
the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look
at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's
chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
==============
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
========================
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip"
off
the irrelevant NGs
Except you, of course, right Carol?
he's infesting like a cockroach.
PKB.
That may keep his crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to
shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
See above.
Cracklin'.......
Libel, slander and defamation of character:
From: (JaBrIoL)gives a fine "witness."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-
witn,alt.talk.creationism,alt.atheism,alt.feminism,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
sure.. I know now you get ugly and nasty and I strike up the truth...
you are really mad that you have a ***** negro child, a dishonor to
the lithuanian community.
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****..
me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
10 Dec 2005 01:49:45 AM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:54:38 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:f6jjp194sig3maimptgugodjcc9la2mdpr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using
the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's
chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
==============
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
========================
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip" off
the irrelevant NGs he's infesting like a cockroach. That may keep his crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
Trust me, that'll never happen. As long as Jabbers can find an ISP
willing to sell him an account, he'll continue to be a pain in the
*****.
What puzzles me is why would Jabbers target a group like rec.ponds to
begin with. Seems to me that's a pretty inoffensive topic. But then, I
guess there's no figuring a deranged mind.
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| User: "cat daddy" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
10 Dec 2005 06:55:16 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:t71lp1pu1tbr0otieijn1hlb396rc9sn57@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:54:38 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:f6jjp194sig3maimptgugodjcc9la2mdpr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using
the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look
at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's
chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
==============
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
========================
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip"
off
the irrelevant NGs he's infesting like a cockroach. That may keep his
crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to
shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
Trust me, that'll never happen. As long as Jabbers can find an ISP
willing to sell him an account, he'll continue to be a pain in the
*****.
What puzzles me is why would Jabbers target a group like rec.ponds to
begin with. Seems to me that's a pretty inoffensive topic. But then, I
guess there's no figuring a deranged mind.
Because that's another group his yang, Cracklin' Carol and her socks,
infests.
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
10 Dec 2005 10:43:30 AM |
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"cat daddy" <furball@.myhouse.com> wrote in message
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Because that's another group his yang, Cracklin' Carol and her socks,
infests.
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And yet all the *flame* messages from many sock-puppets are coming from
your "brother" Jabriol's and Roy's ISPs. How do you explain that? Not one
of these came from my ISP. Did you forget about these again? Once again
you prove yourself an apologist LIAR. The WTS taught you to call this type
of lying "theocratic warfare strategy." I know, they tried to teach me the
same thing. You can RISE above it as I did.
So tell us what your motive is for harassing me and following me from NG to
NG puss man? What do you hope to accomplish since I prove you a liar every
day? (NGs not snicked since I don't know which one you're posting from).
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
10 Dec 2005 10:30:41 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:t71lp1pu1tbr0otieijn1hlb396rc9sn57@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:54:38 -0600, "Cracklin'"
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip"
off
the irrelevant NGs he's infesting like a cockroach. That may keep his
crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to
shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
===================
Trust me, that'll never happen. As long as Jabbers can find an ISP
willing to sell him an account, he'll continue to be a pain in the
*****.
What puzzles me is why would Jabbers target a group like rec.ponds to
begin with. Seems to me that's a pretty inoffensive topic. But then, I
guess there's no figuring a deranged mind.
================
He's targeted rec.ponds because he trying to hound me off Usenet by flooding
the NGs I frequent with off-topic messages and constant libelous personal
attacks. He's doing it by cross-posting his usual annoying controversial
bullsh*t to as many NGs as he can get replies from using a new nym several
times a day to bypass your killfiles. Those who reply don't bother to snip
irrelevant NGs so rec.ponds is flooded with off-topic messages and
flame-type posts. He also found two other trolls like himself to join in in
destroying these NGs. He's also targeted the alt.free.newsservers NG
because several of the people running these services will not cut off *my*
service as he demands they do. Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe in
"freedom of speech." I know because I was once involved with this cult. So
to "punish" these NSP's he's trying to destroy their group as well with his
mindless off-topic and cross-posted crap. One of his JW sycophants (cat
daddy) has joined him in trying to silence me and help Jab's destroy these
groups. Disabuse yourself of any notion these are "people of Jehovah."
If we would all just take the time to see where our messages are going
before we hit that send button, people like Jab's and his side-kick would
fail to destroy the NGs they target.....
--
CR..........
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
http://dbhome.dk/carlo/ secret Elder's Manual
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
10 Dec 2005 04:10:52 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 07:49:45 GMT, John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:54:38 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:f6jjp194sig3maimptgugodjcc9la2mdpr@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:09:09 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Nothing. Jabriol is now trying to destroy "alt.free.newsservers" using
the
old troll technique of cross-posting irrelevant BS there. Take a look at
what this Jehovah's Witness creationist who claims to be one of god's
chosen
people has done to rec.ponds. Please know that aything cross-posted to
rec.ponds (and usually AFN as well) is Jabbers.
==============
Jabbers has been a perennial laughing stock and whipping boy in
alt.atheism and talk.origins since long before rec.ponds or
alt.free.newsservers ever heard of him. Needless to say, his attempts
to disrupt those groups have met with no success. <G>
But I'll be glad to do my part to prevent him from shitting on other
groups. Too bad we can't rid Usenet of him completely, but as long as
there's an ISP willing to take his money and ignore the complaints,
I'm afraid we'll be stuck with him.
========================
Unfortunately John, you're correct. Lets all try and remember to "snip" off
the irrelevant NGs he's infesting like a cockroach. That may keep his crap
on-topic (if that's at all possible). Who knows, he may even decide to shut
his computer off and take up another hobby........
Trust me, that'll never happen. As long as Jabbers can find an ISP
willing to sell him an account, he'll continue to be a pain in the
*****.
What puzzles me is why would Jabbers target a group like rec.ponds to
begin with. Seems to me that's a pretty inoffensive topic. But then, I
guess there's no figuring a deranged mind.
Could well be because it is an anagram of "nerd cops".
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| User: "Cracklin" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 10:13:55 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:5h6jp11sbpae2cp4cm6rbuc27cgc0ar5ch@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
=====================
Not a thing. He destroyed the NG rec.ponds and now he's starting in on
alt.free.newsservers using cross-posting as his favorite method. I would be
great if all of you who respond to Jabs removes rec.ponds and AFN from his
threads. Why help him destroy other NGs?
Cracklin'..........
From: (JaBrIoL)
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****.. me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
+++++++++++
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| User: "cat daddy" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 06:32:30 PM |
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"Cracklin'" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:4399a421$0$27928$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com...
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:5h6jp11sbpae2cp4cm6rbuc27cgc0ar5ch@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
=====================
Not a thing. He destroyed the NG rec.ponds and now he's starting in on
alt.free.newsservers using cross-posting as his favorite method. I would
be
great if all of you who respond to Jabs removes rec.ponds and AFN from his
threads. Why help him destroy other NGs?
Hypocrite.
Cracklin'..........
From: (JaBrIoL)
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****.. me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
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09 Dec 2005 06:41:12 PM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:13:55 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
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Not a thing. He destroyed the NG rec.ponds and now he's starting in on
alt.free.newsservers using cross-posting as his favorite method. I would be
great if all of you who respond to Jabs removes rec.ponds and AFN from his
threads. Why help him destroy other NGs?
But it's OK to destroy alt.atheism, it seems.
Why have you still kept that group in the list?
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09 Dec 2005 08:04:45 PM |
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"Michael Gray" <fleetg@newsguy.spam.com> wrote in message
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But it's OK to destroy alt.atheism, it seems.
Why have you still kept that group in the list?
====================
Because people from alt.atheism are among those who keep replying to
Jabriol's cross-posted anti-evolution/pro-creation threads! If I removed it
how would the people from your NG know to remove the irrelevant groups? My
post may annoy YOU but think of how others feel when these endless
evolution-creation messages are constantly showing up on their NGs? I don't
mean to annoy you, just to ask you to snip off the NGs Jabber's is trying to
destroy using the cross-posting method.
--
CR.........
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent
force for atheism ever conceived."
-= Isaac Asimov =-
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09 Dec 2005 08:58:44 PM |
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Michael Gray wrote:
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 10:13:55 -0600, "Cracklin'"
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:5h6jp11sbpae2cp4cm6rbuc27cgc0ar5ch@4ax.com...
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
And this has what to do with the scientific concept of natural
selection, Jabbers?
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Not a thing. He destroyed the NG rec.ponds and now he's starting in on
alt.free.newsservers using cross-posting as his favorite method. I would be
great if all of you who respond to Jabs removes rec.ponds and AFN from his
threads. Why help him destroy other NGs?
But it's OK to destroy alt.atheism, it seems.
Why have you still kept that group in the list?
That easy
news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Carolyn Adamo Gulley
3245 North Lamar Road Mount Juliet TN 37122-7806
Phone 615-459-9345
has been caught in various vicious lies!
Before plaguing ARJW with her nonsense, she use to plague the Health NG
do a google search on Yarrow / windsong / Carol for more details.
http://tinyurl.com/daw64
http://tinyurl.com/af4r9
http://tinyurl.com/7v5ly
When she is best by a man she accuse him of stalking
http://tinyurl.com/8wryt
She engages people in senseless debates about absolutely nothing.
Her intent on ARJW is to slander JW's
Before you reply, you may want to ask her a few things or only one.
_Where does she get her information?
_Can her information be verified?
_Is the information up to date?
_What is the purpose of her post? To present reliable facts about JW's
or sling mud on a religious organization in good standing in almost
every country in the world?
Ask her for evidence of her claims before proceeding with your
conversation with her, if not you may be end up wasting your time and
bandwidth on discussing subjects based on fraudulent and fabricated
information. This is how she manipulates clueless bystanders in
participating with her distributing false information elsewhere?
Facts about Carol:
*She can never present evidence.
*She never reveals the source of her info (because there is none). Her
common reply, is: "everybody already knows". If everybody knew, why
bring it up?
*She always hides her identity. And change her header to avoid
killfiles. A TOS offense
*She cuts and paste, rewrite postings, and will even forge e-mail
addresses
;which her ISP allows her to do. Just ask them:
If your newsgroups has been victim of Carol's MCP and ECP that is off
topic you can report her. Her account is dpc6682112001.direcpc.com and
you may report her by calling 1-800-DirecPC, by emailing us at
, or by writing to:
DirecPC
Customer Care Center
11717 Exploration Lane
Germantown, MD 20876 USA
Her use of remailers can still be traced to her account.No American ISP
like to be
associated with Hate Speech no matter if Hate speech is protected
under the First. It affects their commercial interest.
Then you can contact your own ISP and have them add them to their
block List Direcpc.com
Why does Carol behave as she does?
Carolyn Adamo Gulley of Mt Juliet Tn. Is a life long underachiever.
She did not finish High school in NYC, and lived as a biker gangsters
in the 60's and 70's. She claims on her former website that she has 2
failed
marriages and blames God for her poor choices. It is alleged that she
lost custody of her only son due to substance abuse, (never been
proven however). Dumped in TN by her Second husband, Quote-quote, with
no place to go.
She also has failed attempts at being a JW. She could never attain their
moral standards as dictated in the scriptures, and thus been at
war with them ever since. This has made her a very mentally unstable
woman, her hatred is intense, and due to biker-substance abuse
lifestyle, she now needs aid of a pacemaker.
By reporting her to her ISP, she is made aware, that she is alone in
her insane crusade full of false hoods and forgeries., and that you
the reader does not support hate speech against any religion or person.
Carol as Many other former and disgruntled JW's family members will
INDICATE that JW's
and/or the WTBTS are wrong or at fault no matter the topic, the proof,
or the evidence. As with Carol and other anti-jw's already
"know" the reality, and do nothing but work backwards from said private
reality with respect to a given WTBTS/JW related matter, presenting
anything and everything even remotely closely apparently confirming
their a priori conviction as "proof" that they were "right all along".
A good
example is ant-jw's fetish for reposting "excerpts" of articles which
simply declare that one or more wrong/evil-doers "is"/"are" Jehovah's
Witnesses, with ZERO proof/evidence that said alleged wrong/evil-doers
actually make any attempt at all to live the alleged godly principles
allegedly embodied in the teaching(s) of the WTBTS.
One may as well post an excerpt of an article that says, "four teenagers
girls - who are *WHITE* - were caught stealing Eminem CD's
from Tower Records", in hopes of convincing the audience that said
excerpt "proves" something about "whiteness". What does the "Jehovah's
Witness" label mean, if there's no proof/evidence that those it's
applied to in one of
these "excerpts" is anything more than a JW in name/label only? Do we
look at someone that tries to run 26 miles right off the bat,
with no training, and keels over, and say, "See? Now we KNOW that
runners are screwed up!" No, we don't. Or shouldn't. But that's
the kind of currency that the Carol's and PB's of the newsgroup deal in.
replying to them is a virtual waste of bandwidth, and thee value of
their post should be considered in the same light as the National Globe and
other tabloids..
notice what other NON-JW's have written about Carol:
"SD" <S...@steam.com> said about Carol
Carol,
When someone challenges you to justify your controversial claims they
are not being lazy, they are calling your BS. You seem to respond
with nothing but weasel tactics. I know this won't exactly break your
heart, but I have no choice but
to regard all the comments you've made about the WTS as unfounded
wishful thinking. Acting the way you do, probably helps the
organization more than hurts it. I can only think of two reasons for
one to constantly change their name as you do. Neither one paints you
in a particularly good light.
Maybe you should take a ride on that Yamaha of yours and clear your
head. She's here to subject her ranting to as many people as she can.
She's not here for honest discussion or debate. She just wants to make
noise, and lots of it
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09 Dec 2005 11:36:10 AM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
Another Jabriol sock puppet?
***** and die, lying moron.
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09 Dec 2005 12:03:00 PM |
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"Christopher A. Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, Zonoma Sekot (aka Jabriol)
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
Another Jabriol sock puppet?
***** and die, lying moron.
========================
I nominate this *POST OF THE WEEK.*
Sorry, couldn't help myself. :-))
Cracklin'.........
Libel, slander and defamation of character:
From: (JaBrIoL)gives a fine "witness."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-
witn,alt.talk.creationism,alt.atheism,alt.feminism,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Was it God's Fault that carol allowed her son to
be sodomized from her second husband?
sure.. I know now you get ugly and nasty and I strike up the truth...
you are really mad that you have a ***** negro child, a dishonor to
the lithuanian community.
everyone know that you grandchild is a result of your son raping a
crack-*****..
me guess You are going to blem God for that one too.
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09 Dec 2005 11:15:24 AM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:10:48 -0500, in alt.atheism , Zonoma Sekot
<Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com> wrote:
-- A boy was killed when a Southwest Airlines jet skidded off runway at
Chicago's Midway Airport, says a hospital spokeswoman.
No, Jabriol, that is drift. There was no genetic components. What
amazes me is that you don't like what happened, the death, and then
blame something you don't think exists, evolution. How about blaming
the thing you do think exists and do think is in power, God?
--
Matt Silberstein
Do something today about the Darfur Genocide
http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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| User: "Alan Connor" |
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09 Dec 2005 09:11:13 AM |
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On alt.free.newsservers, in <8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>, "Zonoma Sekot" wrote:
<body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a significant
amount of competition. Most of what does exist is non-lethal.
Alan
--
URLs of possible interest in my headers.
crossposts to more than three groups killed
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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09 Dec 2005 09:46:12 AM |
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Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.free.newsservers, in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>, "Zonoma
Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
Of course it is.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
Ah, but that is precisely the point. Ecological niches vary widely and
overlap extensively, so that diversity is preserved because of the
diversity of niches. But *within* a particular niche, there is
tremendous competition for resources.
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
There's an old computer simulation called "Wator" that illustrates why
that doesn't happen.
http://alife.fusebox.com/planet_wator.html
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a significant
amount of competition. Most of what does exist is non-lethal.
I think you're confusing intra-species dominance competition with the
competition for resources that is the basis of Natural Selection.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
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| User: "Alan Connor" |
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09 Dec 2005 10:40:51 AM |
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On alt.religion.christianity, in
<Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.free.newsservers, in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
"Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
Of course it is.
No it isn't.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
Ah, but that is precisely the point.
What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
discernible intelligence.
Ecological niches vary
widely and overlap extensively, so that diversity is preserved
because of the diversity of niches.
But *within* a particular
niche, there is tremendous competition for resources.
No there isn't.
My conclusions are based on a lifetime of living very close
to Nature and observing it firsthand.
What are yours based on?
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
There's an old computer simulation called "Wator" that
illustrates why that doesn't happen.
http://alife.fusebox.com/planet_wator.html
Great. You can't even tell the difference between a computer
program and reality.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a
significant amount of competition. Most of what does exist is
non-lethal.
I think you're confusing intra-species dominance competition
with the competition for resources that is the basis of Natural
Selection.
There is no such thing as "Natural Selection" except in the
textbooks. It's a theory.
1000 years ago, there were more wolves and and large cats in
America than there were people. And the people had only primitive
weapons.
Why didn't those predators try to eliminate the competition that
people represented? There is no reason at all for a wolf pack
to flee a small group of primitive humans. They could take them
without any problem. But they avoided them instead.
Why is that?
Why didn't they take every opportunity to eliminate the
competition?
That's what those 'fiercesome predators' did: Avoid 'the
competition'. Which is not competition.
And they didn't try to eliminate each other, either.
If they had, there would have only been one of those species of
predator left long before then: The wolf. Because it is a
social/pack animal.
And they would have eliminated all, or most, of the lesser
predators too.
Can't have those bobcats eating THEIR rabbits and mice and voles,
can we?
Alan
--
URLs of possible interest in my headers.
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09 Dec 2005 01:16:58 PM |
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Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpjcl8.63c.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.free.newsservers, in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
"Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
Of course it is.
No it isn't.
Yes, it is.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
Ah, but that is precisely the point.
What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
discernible intelligence.
You should pay better attention:
Ecological niches vary
widely and overlap extensively, so that diversity is preserved
because of the diversity of niches.
But *within* a particular
niche, there is tremendous competition for resources.
No there isn't.
My conclusions are based on a lifetime of living very close
to Nature and observing it firsthand.
What are yours based on?
Close observation of nature and an understanding of what is meant by
"competition" as used in the context of Natural Selection.
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
There's an old computer simulation called "Wator" that
illustrates why that doesn't happen.
http://alife.fusebox.com/planet_wator.html
Great. You can't even tell the difference between a computer
program and reality.
I can tell when a computer program illustrates a particular aspect of
reality.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a
significant amount of competition. Most of what does exist is
non-lethal.
I think you're confusing intra-species dominance competition
with the competition for resources that is the basis of Natural
Selection.
There is no such thing as "Natural Selection" except in the
textbooks. It's a theory.
It's an observable fact. Natural reproduction results in an exponential
production of offspring. Not all of those can survive in an environment of
limited resources, thus they come into conflict and have to compete for
those resources.
1000 years ago, there were more wolves and and large cats in
America than there were people. And the people had only primitive
weapons.
Why didn't those predators try to eliminate the competition that
people represented? There is no reason at all for a wolf pack
to flee a small group of primitive humans. They could take them
without any problem. But they avoided them instead.
Why is that?
Why didn't they take every opportunity to eliminate the
competition?
Because they're animals. They don't have the mental ability to make that
sort of abstract reasoning. But they still compete for territory and
resources. Those humans fenced off the land and killed the wolves when the
wolves ate their cattle.
That's what those 'fiercesome predators' did: Avoid 'the
competition'. Which is not competition.
You don't understand competition for resources.
And they didn't try to eliminate each other, either.
They compete for a limited supply of food.
If they had, there would have only been one of those species of
predator left long before then: The wolf. Because it is a
social/pack animal.
And they would have eliminated all, or most, of the lesser
predators too.
Can't have those bobcats eating THEIR rabbits and mice and voles,
can we?
They don't have to fight to compete for resources. If there are too many
wolves and bobcats in a territory they will eat up all the available prey
and some of your "fearsome predators" will starve.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
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11 Dec 2005 11:16:13 AM |
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Alan Connor wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.free.newsservers, in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
"Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
Of course it is.
No it isn't.
That's right. It's not a myth.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity woul d
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
Ah, but that is precisely the point.
What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
discernible intelligence.
Ecological niches vary
widely and ove rlap extensively, so that diversity is preserved
because of the diversity of niches.
But *within* a particular
niche, there is tremendous competition for resources.
No there isn't.
Yup.
My conclusions are based on a lifetime of living very close
to Nature and observing it firsthand.
No it isn't.
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09 Dec 2005 11:06:57 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
wrote:
On alt.religion.christianity, in
<Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
On alt.free.newsservers, in
<8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
"Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
Of course it is.
No it isn't.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
Ah, but that is precisely the point.
What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
discernible intelligence.
Don't worry, Alan. It'll be a *very* long time before he catches up
with you in that regard.
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| User: "Spindler of Kittens" |
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09 Dec 2005 02:18:50 PM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:kaejp1lsdaegdut8s1p2o39a659rnjac4e@4ax.com...
: On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor
<i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
: wrote:
:
: >On alt.religion.christianity, in
: ><Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
: >
: >> Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
: >> news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
: >>
: >>> On alt.free.newsservers, in
: >>> <8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
: >>> "Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
: >>>
: >>> "Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
: >>> competition.
: >>
: >>
: >> Of course it is.
: >
: >No it isn't.
: >
: >>
: >>> If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
: >>> civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
: >>>
: >>> The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
: >>> eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
: >>> have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
: >>
: >>
: >> Ah, but that is precisely the point.
: >
: >What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
: >discernible intelligence.
:
: Don't worry, Alan. It'll be a *very* long time before he catches up
: with you in that regard.
OWWWWWWW!!! Yer a mean one, John. 'course, he did seem to be asking
for it......
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10 Dec 2005 03:34:53 AM |
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:18:50 -0600, "Spindler of Kittens"
<misleart@ameritech.net> wrote:
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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: On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor
<i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
: wrote:
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: >On alt.religion.christianity, in
: ><Xns97276DB79FCD4fstone69@213.155.197.138>, "Fred Stone" wrote:
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: >> Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid> wrote in
: >> news:slrndpj6pj.5db.i3x9mdw@b29x3m.invalid:
: >>
: >>> On alt.free.newsservers, in
: >>> <8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>,
: >>> "Zonoma Sekot" wrote: <body not downloaded>
: >>>
: >>> "Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
: >>> competition.
: >>
: >>
: >> Of course it is.
: >
: >No it isn't.
: >
: >>
: >>> If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
: >>> civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
: >>>
: >>> The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
: >>> eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
: >>> have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
: >>
: >>
: >> Ah, but that is precisely the point.
: >
: >What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
: >discernible intelligence.
:
: Don't worry, Alan. It'll be a *very* long time before he catches up
: with you in that regard.
OWWWWWWW!!! Yer a mean one, John. 'course, he did seem to be asking
for it......
And who am I to deny a sincere request? :-)
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| User: "Nightshade" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 11:52:59 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
wrote:
Ah, but that is precisely the point.
What point? That's two statements in a row that have no
discernible intelligence.
If you only read one line at a time, you will never see the point
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| User: "Nightshade" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 11:56:43 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
wrote:
But *within* a particular
niche, there is tremendous competition for resources.
No there isn't.
My conclusions are based on a lifetime of living very close
to Nature and observing it firsthand.
What are yours based on?
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
There's an old computer simulation called "Wator" that
illustrates why that doesn't happen.
http://alife.fusebox.com/planet_wator.html
Great. You can't even tell the difference between a computer
program and reality.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a
significant amount of competition. Most of what does exist is
non-lethal.
I think you're confusing intra-species dominance competition
with the competition for resources that is the basis of Natural
Selection.
There is no such thing as "Natural Selection" except in the
textbooks. It's a theory.
1000 years ago, there were more wolves and and large cats in
America than there were people. And the people had only primitive
weapons.
Why didn't those predators try to eliminate the competition that
people represented? There is no reason at all for a wolf pack
to flee a small group of primitive humans. They could take them
without any problem. But they avoided them instead.
Why is that?
Why didn't they take every opportunity to eliminate the
competition?
That's what those 'fiercesome predators' did: Avoid 'the
competition'. Which is not competition.
And they didn't try to eliminate each other, either.
If they had, there would have only been one of those species of
predator left long before then: The wolf. Because it is a
social/pack animal.
And they would have eliminated all, or most, of the lesser
predators too.
Can't have those bobcats eating THEIR rabbits and mice and voles,
can we?
Looks like grade school, is out early, this year, Fred.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 01:18:00 PM |
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Nightshade <nightshade@thedeepwoods.web> wrote in
news:eehjp1de0tgtg89c5j5858irp05beevnu6@4ax.com:
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:40:51 GMT, Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
wrote:
But *within* a particular
niche, there is tremendous competition for resources.
No there isn't.
My conclusions are based on a lifetime of living very close
to Nature and observing it firsthand.
What are yours based on?
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
There's an old computer simulation called "Wator" that
illustrates why that doesn't happen.
http://alife.fusebox.com/planet_wator.html
Great. You can't even tell the difference between a computer
program and reality.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a
significant amount of competition. Most of what does exist is
non-lethal.
I think you're confusing intra-species dominance competition
with the competition for resources that is the basis of Natural
Selection.
There is no such thing as "Natural Selection" except in the
textbooks. It's a theory.
1000 years ago, there were more wolves and and large cats in
America than there were people. And the people had only primitive
weapons.
Why didn't those predators try to eliminate the competition that
people represented? There is no reason at all for a wolf pack
to flee a small group of primitive humans. They could take them
without any problem. But they avoided them instead.
Why is that?
Why didn't they take every opportunity to eliminate the
competition?
That's what those 'fiercesome predators' did: Avoid 'the
competition'. Which is not competition.
And they didn't try to eliminate each other, either.
If they had, there would have only been one of those species of
predator left long before then: The wolf. Because it is a
social/pack animal.
And they would have eliminated all, or most, of the lesser
predators too.
Can't have those bobcats eating THEIR rabbits and mice and voles,
can we?
Looks like grade school, is out early, this year, Fred.
Somebody opened their new computer early, I guess.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's
just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Natural Selection work in mysterious ways |
09 Dec 2005 11:08:30 AM |
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On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 15:11:13 GMT, Alan Connor <i3x9mdw@j9n35c.invalid>
wrote:
On alt.free.newsservers, in <8cd3f7650512090610n682de3e7n570dbd0f83065b1e@mail.gmail.com>, "Zonoma Sekot" wrote:
<body not downloaded>
"Natural Selection" is a myth. Nature is not based upon
competition.
If it was, it would have gone the way that all human
civilizations based on competition have gone, long ago.
The strongest species in any ecological niche would have
eliminated all of the competition and natural diversity would
have fallen to the point where the web of life collapsed.
There would nothing alive on the Earth.
Nature has too many interdependencies to allow for a significant
amount of competition. Most of what does exist is non-lethal.
So what's your point, other than to demonstrate your ignorance?
Alan
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