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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Jason Gastrich"
Date: 19 Mar 2005 12:27:59 AM
Object: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening, March 25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few days ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will look at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though the entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport, will not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with the heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC to feature
this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings for the
time in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time, let
them know of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see
the museum progress).
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 11:59:52 AM
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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Grendel <nadda@trynot.com> wrote in
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Dave Oldridge wrote:

Grendel <nadda@trynot.com> wrote in
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Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in
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It's been a while since you threatened to sic your demon servants
on


me,

try that for a change.



I don't have any demon servants. But yours WILL obey an exorcism
and go back to hell where you got them. If you remain too
attached, you will end up there with them. I have seen this
happen.


Fascinating, were you able to communicate in some manner with the
demons?


Not directly. But my prayers to have them expelled and sent back to
hell were answered by God. And I could see that they had gone.


You could see demons?


No, but I could see that they were gone.

How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in the first
place?
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Resident Witchypoo
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User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 07:00:42 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:3ab4nlF65923eU1
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No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in the first
place?

The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor off.
Their effects stop happening.
--
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 07:04:07 PM
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:3ab4nlF65923eU1
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No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in the first
place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor off.
Their effects stop happening.

Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes you think
they were caused by demons?
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 08:17:30 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in the
first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor
off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes you
think they were caused by demons?

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs. If
you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will need
to present some credentials.
--
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ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 08:31:35 PM
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in the
first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor
off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes you
think they were caused by demons?


Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs. If
you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will need
to present some credentials.

Oh brother, never mind.
And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say. You
believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I suggest
going to a qualified mental health practioner.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 02:41:51 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say. You
believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I suggest
going to a qualified mental health practioner.

And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!
Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go away.
You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and then turn
around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.
And that's why they are taking over your country.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 02:44:27 PM
"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say. You
believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I suggest
going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!

Try it.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go away.

And your belief in something doesn't make it real. Deal with it.

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and then turn
around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.

Hate to break it to you, but I don't rant and rail at creationists. Your
mental problems are none of my concern.

And that's why they are taking over your country.

LOL - You wish.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 02:57:50 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say.
You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I
suggest going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


Try it.

Not worth it. Your comments aren't costing me anything and in THIS
civilized country they would have to before I could do it. That doesn't
mean I can't or won't take other measures.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go
away.


And your belief in something doesn't make it real. Deal with it.

I AM dealing with it, pillock!

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and then turn
around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


Hate to break it to you, but I don't rant and rail at creationists.
Your mental problems are none of my concern.

Neither are yours any concern of mine.

And that's why they are taking over your country.


LOL - You wish.

They are a bigger threat than you seem to think. They certainly WANT to
take it over.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 09:34:04 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to
say. You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of
that. I suggest going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to
make statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


Try it.


Not worth it. Your comments aren't costing me anything and in THIS
civilized country they would have to before I could do it. That

doesn't

mean I can't or won't take other measures.

So you make a threat, back down, then make another threat.
Unfortunately for you, nothing she's said would constitute grounds for
a lawsuit. Threats, on the other hand, often do.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things
go away.


And your belief in something doesn't make it real. Deal with it.


I AM dealing with it, pillock!

By spreading the joy, apparently.

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and
then turn around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


Hate to break it to you, but I don't rant and rail at
creationists. Your mental problems are none of my concern.


Neither are yours any concern of mine.

That must be why you're keeping your patented demon-hunting methods
secret, hmm? That lack of concern?

And that's why they are taking over your country.


LOL - You wish.


They are a bigger threat than you seem to think. They certainly
WANT to take it over.

Are you talking about demons or republicans?
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 04:42:14 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111678444.502913.239840
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to
say. You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of
that. I suggest going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to
make statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


Try it.


Not worth it. Your comments aren't costing me anything and in THIS
civilized country they would have to before I could do it. That

doesn't

mean I can't or won't take other measures.


So you make a threat, back down, then make another threat.
Unfortunately for you, nothing she's said would constitute grounds for
a lawsuit. Threats, on the other hand, often do.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things
go away.


And your belief in something doesn't make it real. Deal with it.


I AM dealing with it, pillock!


By spreading the joy, apparently.

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and
then turn around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


Hate to break it to you, but I don't rant and rail at
creationists. Your mental problems are none of my concern.


Neither are yours any concern of mine.


That must be why you're keeping your patented demon-hunting methods
secret, hmm? That lack of concern?

And that's why they are taking over your country.


LOL - You wish.


They are a bigger threat than you seem to think. They certainly
WANT to take it over.


Are you talking about demons or republicans?

Well, most of them in the USA are republicans because they figure the
party will sell its soul to the devil for votes. They are probably wrong
in the long run. And no, I'm talking about theocrats, not the demons
that inspire them.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.




User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 09:39:49 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

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@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say.

You

believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I

suggest

going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!

On what grounds?

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go

away.

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and then turn
around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.

How is asking for evidence of your unsupported assertions similar to
fundamentalist creationism? Creationists refuse to present any
objectively verifiable evidence; you refuse to present objectively
verifiable any evidence. They claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed
knowledge; you claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed knowledge. They
are easily refuted; you are easily refuted.

And that's why they are taking over your country.

Who? Creationists? They're just vocal.
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 04:48:40 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111678789.734954.25810
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1

@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to say.

You

believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of that. I

suggest

going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


On what grounds?

On the grounds that falsely imputing insanity to someone in a public
venue is an act of slander. But, as I said, in this country, slander is
not actionable unless there is a financial loss and you don't have a
prayer (or unprayer or whatever you use with your non-deity) of doing
that to me. But I don't know where you live. It might be possible to
sue in the USA. The whole country is litigation obsessed.
Hey, some people think that's what brought Rome down. Do you suppose???

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go

away.

You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and then turn
around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


How is asking for evidence of your unsupported assertions similar to
fundamentalist creationism? Creationists refuse to present any

It isn't. I respect your right to ask. Now respect my right to decline.
I am not, however, like the creationists, insisting that you teach
anything in your public schools (or anywhere else for that matter).

objectively verifiable evidence; you refuse to present objectively
verifiable any evidence. They claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed
knowledge; you claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed knowledge. They
are easily refuted; you are easily refuted.

Actually, I'm not easily refuted. People like you have been trying for a
long time now. The best they can manage is to claim that I lie about my
experiences and am delusional. Of course that's what they MUST claim,
since they refuse to accept the reality.

And that's why they are taking over your country.


Who? Creationists? They're just vocal.

Very vocal and way too influential in certain political circles, if you
ask me.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 25 Mar 2005 01:50:34 PM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111678789.734954.25810
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1

@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9621BA0FE5CA7doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to
say. You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of
that. I suggest going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


On what grounds?


On the grounds that falsely imputing insanity to someone in a public
venue is an act of slander.

I believe you'd have to demonstrate malicious intent. On the other
hand, insane people are known to claim they can see and hear all sorts
of undetectable stuff, so extrapolating from that that you might be
insane is merely an act of observation. I don't believe that would be
classified as slander.

But, as I said, in this country, slander is
not actionable unless there is a financial loss and you don't have a
prayer (or unprayer or whatever you use with your non-deity) of doing
that to me. But I don't know where you live. It might be possible

to

sue in the USA. The whole country is litigation obsessed.

Hey, some people think that's what brought Rome down. Do you

suppose???
Lawsuits? No, I don't suppose.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go
away. You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and
then turn around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


How is asking for evidence of your unsupported assertions similar

to

fundamentalist creationism? Creationists refuse to present any


It isn't. I respect your right to ask. Now respect my right to

decline.

I am not, however, like the creationists, insisting that you teach
anything in your public schools (or anywhere else for that matter).

You made the comparison. If you refuse to offer evidence, don't be
offended when people don't believe you.

objectively verifiable evidence; you refuse to present objectively
verifiable any evidence. They claim to have ultrasupersecret

revealed

knowledge; you claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed knowledge.

They

are easily refuted; you are easily refuted.


Actually, I'm not easily refuted.

Of course not, because you refuse to present any evidence for your
unsupported assertion. Therefore, your assertion is dismissed as
unsupported.

People like you have been trying for a long time now.

You mean people who don't accept your word?

The best they can manage is to claim that I lie about my
experiences and am delusional.

Maybe they're just calling a spade a spade. Consider that you might
actually be delusional. How would you know? You summarily dismiss
people who question you as "refusing to accept the reality," and refuse
to present any evidence for examination. You appear to be attempting
to protect yourself from having to confront the possibility that what
you think you've experienced has taken place only in your mind. It
isn't unheard of.

Of course that's what they MUST claim,
since they refuse to accept the reality.

Reality is shared. Rational people don't see demons. Maybe it's you
who is refusing to accept the reality. Is there any valid reason
anyone should believe your claims other than your desire they do so?

And that's why they are taking over your country.


Who? Creationists? They're just vocal.


Very vocal and way too influential in certain political circles, if

you

ask me.

I agree. That doesn't mean they're taking over the country.
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 25 Mar 2005 05:29:28 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111780234.612552.81020
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111678789.734954.25810
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1

@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
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Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to
say. You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care of


that. I suggest going to a qualified mental health practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to make
statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


On what grounds?


On the grounds that falsely imputing insanity to someone in a public
venue is an act of slander.


I believe you'd have to demonstrate malicious intent. On the other
hand, insane people are known to claim they can see and hear all sorts
of undetectable stuff, so extrapolating from that that you might be
insane is merely an act of observation. I don't believe that would be
classified as slander.

But I never said it was undetectable. I just declined to teach the
method of detection. Of course, involving, as it does, a little open-
minded perceptivity, some people just lack the basic means. Just as I
can't teach general relativity to a lot of the populace.

But, as I said, in this country, slander is
not actionable unless there is a financial loss and you don't have a
prayer (or unprayer or whatever you use with your non-deity) of doing


that to me. But I don't know where you live. It might be possible

to

sue in the USA. The whole country is litigation obsessed.

Hey, some people think that's what brought Rome down. Do you

suppose???

Lawsuits? No, I don't suppose.

They WERE a litigious lot, too, especially towards the 4th century.

Simply put, your disbelief in things does not make those things go
away. You rant and rail at creationists who act like they do and
then turn around and practise the same kind of fundamentalism.


How is asking for evidence of your unsupported assertions similar

to

fundamentalist creationism? Creationists refuse to present any


It isn't. I respect your right to ask. Now respect my right to

decline.

I am not, however, like the creationists, insisting that you teach
anything in your public schools (or anywhere else for that matter).


You made the comparison. If you refuse to offer evidence, don't be
offended when people don't believe you.

objectively verifiable evidence; you refuse to present objectively
verifiable any evidence. They claim to have ultrasupersecret

revealed

knowledge; you claim to have ultrasupersecret revealed knowledge.

They

are easily refuted; you are easily refuted.


Actually, I'm not easily refuted.


Of course not, because you refuse to present any evidence for your
unsupported assertion. Therefore, your assertion is dismissed as
unsupported.

Fine, so dismiss it and go have breakfast. Nobody asked you to accept it
in the first place.

People like you have been trying for a long time now.


You mean people who don't accept your word?

No, people who don't WANT to accept my word.

The best they can manage is to claim that I lie about my
experiences and am delusional.


Maybe they're just calling a spade a spade. Consider that you might
actually be delusional. How would you know? You summarily dismiss

How would YOU know that your whole delusion that I'm delusional is not an
elaborate delusion of your own? I mean people who are ALWAYS questioning
everyone else's thoughts and NEVER question their own are OFTEN
delusional!

people who question you as "refusing to accept the reality," and refuse
to present any evidence for examination. You appear to be attempting
to protect yourself from having to confront the possibility that what
you think you've experienced has taken place only in your mind. It
isn't unheard of.

There is no way for ME to tell. And there is certainly no way for YOU to
tell, since any of your experiences in the testing would possibly just be
YOUR delusions. Look, we can play solipsism games here and dance around
them for days. It accomplishes nothing. I do what I need to do, both to
survive and to get some enjoyment out of life while it lasts. If you
object to that, then expect prickly resistance. But I do not dance on
the strings of fundamentalists who believe that only their worldview is
the correct one. And that goes for fundy atheists as well as fundy
theists. You see, I've discovered after a lot of years that
fundamentalism is not really religion-dependent. It's a form of
narcissism that lives like a parasite on religious and philosophical
movements.


Of course that's what they MUST claim,
since they refuse to accept the reality.


Reality is shared. Rational people don't see demons. Maybe it's you

Now there's a lie. Some very rational people have claimed to see them.
But then you have made up a dogma in your mind that says that there are
no demons, so you then have to defend the dogma by saying that anyone who
perceives them ("seeing" isn't really the correct word here unless you
mean it in the sense of "seeing" how gravity makes planets orbit the
sun).

who is refusing to accept the reality. Is there any valid reason
anyone should believe your claims other than your desire they do so?

Is there any valid reason why I should care if YOU do?

And that's why they are taking over your country.


Who? Creationists? They're just vocal.


Very vocal and way too influential in certain political circles, if

you

ask me.


I agree. That doesn't mean they're taking over the country.

From what I can see, they are certainly trying.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 09:29:26 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111780234.612552.81020
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111678789.734954.25810
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

news:3ac2o2F685k9hU1

@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in

message

news:Xns9621BA0FE5CA7doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

Oh brother, never mind.

And here I actually thought you had something interesting to
say. You believe in demons? Proper medication can take care

of


that. I suggest going to a qualified mental health

practioner.


And I suggest you shut your trap unless you're qualified to

make

statements like that. You could be sued, you know!


On what grounds?


On the grounds that falsely imputing insanity to someone in a

public

venue is an act of slander.


I believe you'd have to demonstrate malicious intent. On the other
hand, insane people are known to claim they can see and hear all

sorts

of undetectable stuff, so extrapolating from that that you might be
insane is merely an act of observation. I don't believe that would

be

classified as slander.


But I never said it was undetectable. I just declined to teach the
method of detection. Of course, involving, as it does, a little

open-

minded perceptivity, some people just lack the basic means. Just as

I

can't teach general relativity to a lot of the populace.

So you keep claiming. Sure does make it easy to claim that your
critics are uninformed, when the sole repository of the information
refuses to inform them. Unfortunately, your "observations" are
consistent with a diagnosis of schizophrenia, and you've given no
reason to consider otherwise.

objectively verifiable evidence; you refuse to present

objectively

verifiable any evidence. They claim to have ultrasupersecret
revealed knowledge; you claim to have ultrasupersecret
revealed knowledge. They are easily refuted; you are easily

refuted.


Actually, I'm not easily refuted.


Of course not, because you refuse to present any evidence for your
unsupported assertion. Therefore, your assertion is dismissed as
unsupported.


Fine, so dismiss it and go have breakfast. Nobody asked you to

accept it

in the first place.

Actually, you kind of did, when you made the claim.

People like you have been trying for a long time now.


You mean people who don't accept your word?


No, people who don't WANT to accept my word.

And how do you differentiate? If people don't accept your word, it's
likely because they aren't gullible; they require evidence to be
convinced, and you refuse to present that evidence. You seem to think
scepticism is a bad thing, but it isn't. And blind faith isn't a good
thing; it's called "blind" for a reason.

The best they can manage is to claim that I lie about my
experiences and am delusional.


Maybe they're just calling a spade a spade. Consider that you

might

actually be delusional. How would you know? You summarily dismiss


How would YOU know that your whole delusion that I'm delusional is

not an

elaborate delusion of your own? I mean people who are ALWAYS

questioning

everyone else's thoughts and NEVER question their own are OFTEN
delusional!

I don't know, but I've got a pretty good idea. My perception of
reality corresponds with what others have observed, both casually and
in more formal settings. If you can present convincing evidence to me
that I'm delusional about something, I might not like it, but if the
evidence is solid I would hope I'd be honest enough to accept it.
Fortunately, I haven't had to put myself to that test, yet.

people who question you as "refusing to accept the reality," and

refuse

to present any evidence for examination. You appear to be

attempting

to protect yourself from having to confront the possibility that

what

you think you've experienced has taken place only in your mind. It
isn't unheard of.


There is no way for ME to tell. And there is certainly no way for

YOU to

tell, since any of your experiences in the testing would possibly

just be

YOUR delusions. Look, we can play solipsism games here and dance

around

them for days. It accomplishes nothing. I do what I need to do,

both to

survive and to get some enjoyment out of life while it lasts. If you
object to that, then expect prickly resistance.

Where did I say I object to that?

But I do not dance on
the strings of fundamentalists who believe that only their worldview

is

the correct one. And that goes for fundy atheists as well as fundy
theists. You see, I've discovered after a lot of years that
fundamentalism is not really religion-dependent. It's a form of
narcissism that lives like a parasite on religious and philosophical
movements.

So people who ask you for evidence of your claims are narcissists?
That's interesting.

Of course that's what they MUST claim,
since they refuse to accept the reality.


Reality is shared. Rational people don't see demons. Maybe it's

you


Now there's a lie. Some very rational people have claimed to see

them.
Please provide a site for that claim.

But then you have made up a dogma in your mind that says that there

are

no demons, so you then have to defend the dogma by saying that anyone

who

perceives them ("seeing" isn't really the correct word here unless

you

mean it in the sense of "seeing" how gravity makes planets orbit the
sun).

No, dear. You've misperceived my position. Refusal to accept
unsubstantiated, and in this instance fantastic, claims, isn't dogma.

who is refusing to accept the reality. Is there any valid reason
anyone should believe your claims other than your desire they do

so?


Is there any valid reason why I should care if YOU do?

Another dodge; does that mean you have no valid reason for anyone to
accept your apparantly irrational claim?
Yes, there is a reason for you to care. You've made a fantastic claim;
that indicates your wish people accept your claim. Otherwise, you
wouldn't have brought it up.

And that's why they are taking over your country.


Who? Creationists? They're just vocal.


Very vocal and way too influential in certain political circles,
if you ask me.


I agree. That doesn't mean they're taking over the country.


From what I can see, they are certainly trying.

Trying and doing are two different things.
.







User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 22 Mar 2005 10:54:56 PM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9621AD0A628A2doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3ab4nlF65923eU1 @individual.net:

No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in

the

first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor
off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes

you

think they were caused by demons?


Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.

Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable exposure
of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be to
keeping what you think you observed secret?
.
User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 07:35:57 AM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9621AD0A628A2doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3ab4nlF65923eU1 @individual.net:

No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in

the

first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor
off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes

you

think they were caused by demons?


Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable exposure
of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be to
keeping what you think you observed secret?

I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 02:43:09 PM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in news:3ad9kqF5p7gmmU1
@individual.net:


"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns9621AD0A628A2doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3ab4nlF65923eU1 @individual.net:

No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw them in

the

first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn my monitor
off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what makes

you

think they were caused by demons?


Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable exposure
of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be

to

keeping what you think you observed secret?


I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.

That, too, since it would only waste your breath and my time.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 09:22:44 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in

news:3ad9kqF5p7gmmU1

@individual.net:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3abtk3F65h172U1@individual.net:

"Dave Oldridge" <doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote in

message

news:Xns9621AD0A628A2doldridgsprintca@24.71.223.159...

"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in
news:3ab4nlF65923eU1 @individual.net:

No, but I could see that they were gone.


How did you know that they were "gone" if you never saw
them in the first place?


The same way I know the electrons are gone when I turn
my monitor off. Their effects stop happening.


Would you mind explaining some of these "effects" and what
makes you think they were caused by demons?


Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for
amateurs. If you want to discuss it further (in email,
not here), then you will need to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable
exposure of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event,
could there be to keeping what you think you observed secret?


I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.


That, too, since it would only waste your breath and my time.

And yet, here you are. Wasting your breath and our time.
.


User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 25 Mar 2005 01:14:08 PM
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:57 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

snip

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable exposure
of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be to
keeping what you think you observed secret?


I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.

He doesn't need to worry about that anymore.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 25 Mar 2005 05:19:41 PM
thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:5nn8415b3rja0e0st529m8ld6o4d8a8kkc@4ax.com:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:57 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

snip

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.



Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable

exposure

of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be

to

keeping what you think you observed secret?



I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.


He doesn't need to worry about that anymore.

Who cares where devout idiots get their jollies, anyway? *I* certainly
have better things to worry about.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 08:37:24 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:5nn8415b3rja0e0st529m8ld6o4d8a8kkc@4ax.com:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:57 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

snip

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for
amateurs. If you want to discuss it further (in email, not
here), then you will need to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable
exposure of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event,
could there be to keeping what you think you observed secret?


I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.


He doesn't need to worry about that anymore.


Who cares where devout idiots get their jollies, anyway? *I*

certainly

have better things to worry about.

The state of your mental health leaps to mind. You're obsessed with
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren't you?
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 08:56:31 AM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111847844.401116.143680
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:5nn8415b3rja0e0st529m8ld6o4d8a8kkc@4ax.com:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:57 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

snip

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for
amateurs. If you want to discuss it further (in email, not
here), then you will need to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable
exposure of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event,
could there be to keeping what you think you observed secret?


I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.


He doesn't need to worry about that anymore.


Who cares where devout idiots get their jollies, anyway? *I*

certainly

have better things to worry about.


The state of your mental health leaps to mind. You're obsessed with
Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren't you?

Some might say that, but only as entertainment. I certainly do not
confuse it with reality. You're obsessed with your own ego, though. Now
THAT is pathological.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 09:42:46 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111847844.401116.143680
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

The state of your mental health leaps to mind. You're obsessed

with

Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren't you?


Some might say that, but only as entertainment. I certainly do not
confuse it with reality. You're obsessed with your own ego, though.

Now

THAT is pathological.

Excuse me? Asking for evidence indicates an ego disorder? Better
watch out, you might get sued.
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 03:47:41 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111851766.407206.64990
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111847844.401116.143680
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

The state of your mental health leaps to mind. You're obsessed

with

Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren't you?


Some might say that, but only as entertainment. I certainly do not
confuse it with reality. You're obsessed with your own ego, though.

Now

THAT is pathological.


Excuse me? Asking for evidence indicates an ego disorder? Better
watch out, you might get sued.

You asked, I declined. Then you started acting stupid.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.
User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 27 Mar 2005 10:33:07 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111851766.407206.64990
@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111847844.401116.143680
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

The state of your mental health leaps to mind. You're obsessed

with

Buffy the Vampire Slayer, aren't you?


Some might say that, but only as entertainment. I certainly do

not

confuse it with reality. You're obsessed with your own ego,

though.

Now

THAT is pathological.


Excuse me? Asking for evidence indicates an ego disorder? Better
watch out, you might get sued.


You asked, I declined. Then you started acting stupid.

Yeah, much smarter to quote movies: "You want the truth? You can't
HANDLE the truth!"
.
User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 27 Mar 2005 03:22:22 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111941187.260577.181940
@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com:

Dave Oldridge wrote:

You asked, I declined. Then you started acting stupid.


Yeah, much smarter to quote movies: "You want the truth? You can't
HANDLE the truth!"

You've already convinced me that you neither want it nor can handle it.
No problem. Lots of people are like that. It's not a sin.
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
.






User: "thomas p"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 26 Mar 2005 03:40:27 AM
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:19:41 GMT, Dave Oldridge
<doldridg@leavethisoutshaw.ca> wrote:

thomas p <tonyofbexarnospam@yahoo.dk> wrote in
news:5nn8415b3rja0e0st529m8ld6o4d8a8kkc@4ax.com:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 08:35:57 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111553696.321141.32220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Dave Oldridge wrote:

snip

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.



Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable

exposure

of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be

to

keeping what you think you observed secret?



I think he probably doesn't want to be made fun of.


He doesn't need to worry about that anymore.


Who cares where devout idiots get their jollies, anyway? *I* certainly
have better things to worry about.

Apparently not.
Thomas P.
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"
(Kierkegaard)
.




User: "Dave Oldridge"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 23 Mar 2005 02:42:40 PM
"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111553696.321141.32220
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.

If

you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you will

need

to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable exposure
of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there be to
keeping what you think you observed secret?

It is sometimes necessary to NOT tell the kiddies how to make gunpowder.
--
Dave Oldridge+
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A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
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User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort"

Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 24 Mar 2005 09:22:23 AM
Dave Oldridge wrote:

"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in news:1111553696.321141.32220
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Yes, actually I would. Demon-hunting is not a sport for amateurs.
If you want to discuss it further (in email, not here), then you
will need to present some credentials.


Why? What possible benefit, other than avoiding the probable

exposure

of some mundane cause of some probably mundane event, could there

be to

keeping what you think you observed secret?


It is sometimes necessary to NOT tell the kiddies how to make

gunpowder.
You didn't answer the question; stop dodging. If my child is being
mortally threatened, you better believe I'm going to do everything I
can to protect him, and to teach him to protect himself. On the other
hand, the situation would be different if my child said, "Daddy,
there's a monster in my closet that only I can see. Give me your gun
so I can shoot him." You're claiming there's a monster in my closet
that only you can detect. I'm not going to give you any weapon, and
you'd better think twice about knocking on my door.
I'm betting you still won't answer the question.
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