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"Jason Gastrich" |
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19 Mar 2005 12:27:59 AM |
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NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening, March 25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few days ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will look at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though the entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport, will not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with the heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC to feature
this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings for the
time in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time, let
them know of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see
the museum progress).
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 08:36:02 AM |
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Forgot the snip...sorry.
"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in message
news:VRf%d.82546$fc4.56830@edtnps89...
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
<snip>
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments. Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent the
fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that lampreys
(jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish as they are
from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be trusted to get
right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many, many
years ago.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated irrespective of
the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
JG
-- [snip]
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Steven J." |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 08:23:29 PM |
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JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're
probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments.
Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent
the
fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys
(jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish as they
are
from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be trusted to
get
right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many,
many
years ago.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of
the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
Note that my argument concerned the reliability of AiG, not the truth
or falsehood of creationism. To be sure, one of the reasons I
abandoned creationism was that, so far as I can tell, all its
proponents share the basic weaknesses of AiG, but the mere failure of
one argument (much less the mere failure of one particular advocate of
a position) is not a reason to abandon the position itself. A greater
reason for my acceptance of evolutionary theory is that, in fact, the
evidence *does* support it, and contradicts the predictions of
creationism, to the extent that creationism makes such predictions.
My point is that wherever I personally know something about the subject
matter of an AiG article, or where I can check the logic for myself,
their arguments are either [a] wrong, or [b] come down to "well, just
because evolutionary theory predicted it, that's no reason God couldn't
have created it that way!" I therefore tend to assume that AiG is
probably not more reliable on subjects on which I am hopelessly
ignorant, and cannot personally evaluate their arguments.
Toss out the Haeckel drawings, if you like; the evidence from
embryology itself remains, as does the evidence from the nested
hierarchy of genetic and morphological homologies, biogeography,
observations of mutation and natural selection, fossils, and so forth.
Toss out the fake evidence (e.g. the Paluxy "man tracks") and the
non-evidence (things that aren't well explained by the theory of
evolution, and aren't explained at all by creationism), and no case
remains for creationism.
-- [snip]
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Grendel" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
21 Mar 2005 10:03:05 AM |
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Steven J. wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're
probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments.
Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent
the
fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys
(jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish as they
are
from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be trusted to
get
right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many,
many
years ago.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of
the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
Note that my argument concerned the reliability of AiG, not the truth
or falsehood of creationism.
That is called "back-peddling" Steven. The fact is is that you were
implying that creation as a theory be abandoned because of an alleged
discrepancy. And it was very clear from your tirade against AIG that
you did think it correct to abandon the theory because of some alleged
incorrect material.
Scott, in her defense of evolution way goes further, the material used
to support evolution is known to be fraudulent, has for years, but she
is willing to have it stand for the "cause"
What a laugh, and of course this theory is supposed to be "scientific"
The joke is definitely on you Steven.
To be sure, one of the reasons I
abandoned creationism was that, so far as I can tell, all its
proponents share the basic weaknesses of AiG, but the mere failure of
one argument (much less the mere failure of one particular advocate of
a position) is not a reason to abandon the position itself. A greater
reason for my acceptance of evolutionary theory is that, in fact, the
evidence *does* support it, and contradicts the predictions of
creationism, to the extent that creationism makes such predictions.
My point is that wherever I personally know something about the subject
matter of an AiG article, or where I can check the logic for myself,
their arguments are either [a] wrong, or [b] come down to "well, just
because evolutionary theory predicted it, that's no reason God couldn't
have created it that way!" I therefore tend to assume that AiG is
probably not more reliable on subjects on which I am hopelessly
ignorant, and cannot personally evaluate their arguments.
Toss out the Haeckel drawings, if you like; the evidence from
embryology itself remains, as does the evidence from the nested
hierarchy of genetic and morphological homologies, biogeography,
observations of mutation and natural selection, fossils, and so forth.
Toss out the fake evidence (e.g. the Paluxy "man tracks") and the
non-evidence (things that aren't well explained by the theory of
evolution, and aren't explained at all by creationism), and no case
remains for creationism.
-- [snip]
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Steven J." |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
21 Mar 2005 12:14:40 PM |
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Grendel wrote:
Steven J. wrote:
-- [snip]
Note that my argument concerned the reliability of AiG, not the
truth
or falsehood of creationism.
I'm not backpedalling. To reiterate: on several occasions, when asked
for some detail of creation "theory," Jason has referred people to AiG
as a trustworthy source of information on the matter. Since Jason
doesn't claim a high degree of scientific literacy, I was wondering how
he decided that AiG was actually any good. Note that AiG itself has
criticized YECist Kent Hovind as wrong on many issues, so even a
creationist should be able to consider the possibility that there are
untrustworthy creationists sources, and perhaps even that AiG is itself
one of them. So I asked what grounds Jason had for finding AiG
trustworthy.
That is called "back-peddling" Steven. The fact is is that you were
implying that creation as a theory be abandoned because of an alleged
discrepancy. And it was very clear from your tirade against AIG that
you did think it correct to abandon the theory because of some
alleged
incorrect material.
Some supporters of evolutionary theory have criticized the Noah's Flood
account on the grounds that if the Ark were floating around six miles
up (i.e.if the water level were higher than Mount Everest's current
peak) then the air would be too thin to breathe. Other evolutionists
have pointed out that it is distance above *sea level* that matters: if
the sea level goes up six miles, then so does the air pressure six
miles up. That is, there can be bad arguments and mistaken facts
adduced against "flood geology."
Of course, these bad arguments don't provide any obvious source for the
water needed for such a flood, or a way to drain it off the Earth, or
any way for ocean basins to get much deeper and mountains much higher
right after the Flood (and yes, you can invoke miracles, but one might
expect such miracles to leave obvious traces in the geological record
-- vast fracture systems where the ocean basins dropped, or huge
drainage canyons around the continental rims -- that aren't seen).
Now, inaccuracies of AiG (the one I cited was merely a minor example;
my personal favorite is their claim that Karl Marx was converted to
atheism by reading, in 1838, evolutionary writings that Darwin would
not publish for another 20 years) are a reason to abandon AiG. By
themselves, they are no reason to abandon creationism. Rather, 200
years of research (much of it originally by Christian creationists)
that show the Earth is immensely older than 6000 years, that different
suites of species have inhabited it at different times, and that those
species are related by common descent, are reasons to abandon
creationism. So are the failures to find evidence for, e.g. a global
flood within the last 10,000 years.
Evolutionary theory neither stands nor falls on a single piece, nor
even a handful of pieces, of evidence, and I suppose neither should
creationism. In science, theories are accepted or rejected based on
"the consilience of induction" -- the way a huge body of evidence from
many different fields and avenues of investigation are explained by or
contradict the theory.
And to the extent that there is a "theory of creation," data from a
variety of fields contradicts it. Radiometric dating *could*, but
happens not to, support a 10,000 year-old-earth. Paleontology *could*,
but happens not to, support the idea that all "kinds" existed
simultaneously. Genetic testing *could*, but happens not to, support
the idea that human biochemistry is no closer to apes than to, e.g.
dogs or pigeons.
Creationism today isn't a "theory." A theory is an explanation: it
tells you why things have one set of properties rather than another,
conceivable set of properties. Creationism may have been a theory 200
years ago, when Adam Sedgwick expected to find human artifacts under
the Mesozoic sediments (which, like modern "flood geologists," he
attributed to Noah's flood). When he didn't find them, he concluded
that his theory was false, and the Earth much older than humanity.
Modern flood geologists figure that a miraculous flood can have
whatever properties research might turn up. In general, *any* possible
data is compatible with creationism, but any "theory" which "explains"
any possible data really explains none of it.
Scott, in her defense of evolution way goes further, the material
used
to support evolution is known to be fraudulent, has for years, but
she
is willing to have it stand for the "cause"
What a laugh, and of course this theory is supposed to be
"scientific"
The joke is definitely on you Steven.
I suspect you understand neither the problems with Haeckel's drawings,
nor the nature of the evidence for evolutionary theory.
To be sure, one of the reasons I
abandoned creationism was that, so far as I can tell, all its
proponents share the basic weaknesses of AiG, but the mere failure
of
one argument (much less the mere failure of one particular advocate
of
a position) is not a reason to abandon the position itself. A
greater
reason for my acceptance of evolutionary theory is that, in fact,
the
evidence *does* support it, and contradicts the predictions of
creationism, to the extent that creationism makes such predictions.
My point is that wherever I personally know something about the
subject
matter of an AiG article, or where I can check the logic for
myself,
their arguments are either [a] wrong, or [b] come down to "well,
just
because evolutionary theory predicted it, that's no reason God
couldn't
have created it that way!" I therefore tend to assume that AiG is
probably not more reliable on subjects on which I am hopelessly
ignorant, and cannot personally evaluate their arguments.
Toss out the Haeckel drawings, if you like; the evidence from
embryology itself remains, as does the evidence from the nested
hierarchy of genetic and morphological homologies, biogeography,
observations of mutation and natural selection, fossils, and so
forth.
Toss out the fake evidence (e.g. the Paluxy "man tracks") and the
non-evidence (things that aren't well explained by the theory of
evolution, and aren't explained at all by creationism), and no case
remains for creationism.
-- [snip]
-- Steven J.
-- Steven J.
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| User: "Jason Gastrich" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 12:48:49 PM |
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JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments. Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent
the fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys (jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish
as they are from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be
trusted to get right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many,
many years ago.
You're absolutely right. It's bad, unsupportable mojo.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
WOW. This is awfully telling and damning. If she has to resort to these
obvious fabrications, where else will she and her ilk stoop?
JG
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Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 08:59:12 PM |
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"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:lAj%d.3888$4Y.3791@twister.socal.rr.com...
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments. Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent
the fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys (jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish
as they are from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be
trusted to get right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many,
many years ago.
You're absolutely right. It's bad, unsupportable mojo.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
WOW. This is awfully telling and damning. If she has to resort to these
obvious fabrications, where else will she and her ilk stoop?
LOL, oh the irony, "Dr." Gastrich.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Masked Avenger" |
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21 Mar 2005 04:42:58 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments. Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common descent
the fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys (jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish
as they are from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be
trusted to get right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded many,
many years ago.
You're absolutely right. It's bad, unsupportable mojo.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
WOW. This is awfully telling and damning. If she has to resort to these
obvious fabrications, where else will she and her ilk stoop?
JG
You do realise you're supporting JISTASKKIN here Jason ? A certified
moron........ but if that's all you got ......
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Masked Avenger
aa#2224
EAC Chief Technician in charge of remotely rigging Fundie 'Spell
Checkers' so they all look like hick home schooled yokels
Does Schroedinger's cat have 18 half lives ?
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| User: "Ultra Maroon" |
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24 Mar 2005 04:54:15 AM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're
probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments.
Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common
descent
the fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys (jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish
as they are from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be
trusted to get right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded
many,
many years ago.
You're absolutely right. It's bad, unsupportable mojo.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
WOW. This is awfully telling and damning. If she has to resort to
these
obvious fabrications, where else will she and her ilk stoop?
Whut "obvious fabrications?" Have you even *seen* Eugenie's arguments
for keeping the Haeckel drawings?
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| User: "Grendel" |
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24 Mar 2005 09:36:47 AM |
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Ultra Maroon wrote:
Jason Gastrich wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"Steven J." <steven_j@altavista.com> wrote in message
news:1111294396.669752.302680@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
Now, for my own part, I tend to assume that if they're wrong or
illogical wherever I can check their facts or logic, they're
probably
as bad even when I can't personally refute their arguments.
Jonathon
Sarfati, for example, has used as evidence *against* common
descent
the fact (which is, in fact, a prediction of common descent) that
lampreys (jawless fish) are genetically as distant from jawed fish
as they are from humans. If he can get that wrong, what can he be
trusted to get right?
Based on that premise and logic, ToE should have been discarded
many,
many years ago.
You're absolutely right. It's bad, unsupportable mojo.
In fact, inaccuracies concerning ToE have been propagated
irrespective of the "correctness" of the material.
See Eugenie Scott's argument for keeping the Haeckel drawings as an
example.
WOW. This is awfully telling and damning. If she has to resort to
these
obvious fabrications, where else will she and her ilk stoop?
Whut "obvious fabrications?" Have you even *seen* Eugenie's arguments
for keeping the Haeckel drawings?
I have, what's your point?
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 04:59:46 PM |
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In alt.atheism on Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:13:31 GMT, "Jason Gastrich"
<usenetspam1@yahoo.com> let us all know that:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and
others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum
will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Thus showing the terminal stupidity of Gastrich.
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" |
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19 Mar 2005 04:23:21 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and
others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum
will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
You may not see it but most people do. This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are
no Christians. It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical
as you are.
David D.
But I'm sure it will draw the terminally self-righteous hypocrite
set
like a magnet!
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| User: "JISTASKKIN" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
19 Mar 2005 09:02:18 PM |
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"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and
others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum
will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
You may not see it but most people do. This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are
no Christians. It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical
as you are.
Matthew
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the
way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto
life, and few there be that find it.
David D.
But I'm sure it will draw the terminally self-righteous hypocrite
set
like a magnet!
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20 Mar 2005 12:17:09 PM |
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"JISTASKKIN" <try_not@here.com> wrote in
news:_I5%d.81555$fc4.10967@edtnps89:
Matthew
13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is
the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in
thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which
leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
And you have yet to even LOOK FOR IT! You keep dashing down that broad
way, thinking that because there are people over on the narrow one yelling
at you to come off of it that you are on the right path!
--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
A false witness is worse than no witness at all.
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19 Mar 2005 09:12:10 PM |
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JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the
museum will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check
your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems like
this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me like I'm
reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are
no Christians.
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological beliefs
oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take my side.
Nearly 100% of the time. Now, this isn't to say that I'm perfect because
I'm not, but my fellow believers support me and I support them. Those that
oppose have different (or no) theological beliefs.
It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical
as you are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down or
even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love God
and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed. Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Regards,
Jason
--
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Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
http://www.jcsm.org
Over 90,000 web pages!
John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
free indeed."
Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
bondage."
ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
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19 Mar 2005 09:51:52 PM |
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"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com...
: JISTASKKIN wrote:
:
: > "David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
: > message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: >
: >> Yes Jason that would be you.
:
: David,
:
: Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems
: like this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me
: like I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
Evidently, you are reading his posts AND you are replying to them. What
is the point of putting David in your killfile?
Ralf
--
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* ^~^ ^~^ *
* _ {~ ~} {~ ~} _ *
* /_``>*< >*<''_\ *
* (\--_)++) (++(_--/) *
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There are no advanced students in Aikido - there are only
competent beginners. There are no advanced techniques -
only the correct application of basic principles.
:
: >> You may not see it but most people do.
:
: Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
:
: > This might explain
: >> why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are
: >> no Christians.
:
: Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs
: oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take my
side.
: Nearly 100% of the time. Now, this isn't to say that I'm perfect
because
: I'm not, but my fellow believers support me and I support them. Those
that
: oppose have different (or no) theological beliefs.
:
: > It's because few Christians are blinded to
: >> reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical
: >> as you are.
:
: Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all
your
: complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me
down or
: even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love
God
: and God is real. Plain and simple.
:
: You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed.
Atheism
: is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well
leave
: the boat while you still have one.
:
: Regards,
: Jason
:
: --
:
: --------
:
: Jesus Christ Saves Ministries
: http://www.jcsm.org
: Over 90,000 web pages!
:
: John 8:36 reads, "Therefore if the Son makes you free, you shall be
: free indeed."
:
: Galatians 5:1 reads, "Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which
: Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of
: bondage."
:
: ICQ#: 20731140 . AIM: MrJasonGastrich . YIM: Jesus_Saved_Jason
:
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20 Mar 2005 01:59:44 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:51:52 GMT, "_AnonCoward" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com...
: JISTASKKIN wrote:
:
: > "David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
: > message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: >
: >> Yes Jason that would be you.
:
: David,
:
: Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems
: like this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me
: like I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
Evidently, you are reading his posts AND you are replying to them. What
is the point of putting David in your killfile?
Trying to feel like a god, of course.
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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20 Mar 2005 08:47:20 AM |
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In article <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:
In response to:
Few Christians are as egotistical as you are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down or
even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love God
and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed. Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Seconds?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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20 Mar 2005 09:27:15 AM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:
In response to:
Few Christians are as egotistical as you are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down or
even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love God
and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed. Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Seconds?
Indeed, I'll second that.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor
A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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21 Mar 2005 04:34:23 AM |
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In article <RBg%d.18$SP2.474@news.uswest.net>,
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@qwest.net> wrote:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote:
In response to:
Few Christians are as egotistical as you are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down or
even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love God
and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed. Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Seconds?
Indeed, I'll second that.
Recorded.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 07:18:31 AM |
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In our last episode <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>, Jason
Gastrich pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and
others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum
will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems
like this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me like
I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are no
Christians.
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take my
side. Nearly 100% of the time. Now, this isn't to say that I'm perfect
because I'm not, but my fellow believers support me and I support them.
Those that oppose have different (or no) theological beliefs.
It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical as you
are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down
or even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love
God and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed. Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Damn. Need any K-Y for that ego?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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20 Mar 2005 08:56:22 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:JOidndn-yaC65aDfRVn-tQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>, Jason
Gastrich pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and
others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum
will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems
like this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me like
I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are no
Christians.
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take my
side. Nearly 100% of the time. Now, this isn't to say that I'm perfect
because I'm not, but my fellow believers support me and I support them.
Those that oppose have different (or no) theological beliefs.
It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical as you
are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down
or even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I love
God and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed.
Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well leave
the boat while you still have one.
Damn. Need any K-Y for that ego?
ACK! Excuse me, I need to go wash my brain now :P
--
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
21 Mar 2005 05:24:57 AM |
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In our last episode <3a6rejF687so0U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff
pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:JOidndn-yaC65aDfRVn-tQ@megapath.net...
In our last episode <eS5%d.3758$4Y.896@twister.socal.rr.com>, Jason
Gastrich pirouetted gracefully and with great fanfare proclaimed:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:1111271001.960575.76200@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and others and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the
museum will be on national TV on the evening of March 25 (check
your
local
listings for the time in your area; schedule is subject to
change).
At the same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since it is
going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see gems
like this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me
like I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
This might explain
why few defend you on usenet. It's not because there are no
Christians.
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take
my side. Nearly 100% of the time. Now, this isn't to say that I'm
perfect because I'm not, but my fellow believers support me and I
support them. Those that oppose have different (or no) theological
beliefs.
It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical as you
are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me
down or even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because
I love God and God is real. Plain and simple.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed.
Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well
leave the boat while you still have one.
Damn. Need any K-Y for that ego?
ACK! Excuse me, I need to go wash my brain now :P
I'm sure Gasbag sells that...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Group website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
-- Seneca the Younger
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| User: "David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" |
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20 Mar 2005 03:26:47 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich"
Jason Gastrich wrote:
Dave Oldridge wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com:
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends,
family and others and let them know that AiG President
Ken Ham and the museum will be on national TV on the
evening of March 25 (check your local listings for the
time in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the
same time, let them know of our museum website,
www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can see the
museum progress).
Actual Christians should avoid the place like a plague, since
it is going to be run by heretics whose mission is to defy God's
commandments and seduce others into doing so.
Huh?
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely see
gems like
this. You may want to reconsider writing them. Addressing me like
I'm
reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
I care not if you read, but my replies to you help others see who you
are.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
Of course you think that, as i said, you did not see it.
This might explain why few defend you on usenet.
It's not because there are no Christians.
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs
oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs take my
side.
Nearly 100% of the time.
I never denyed that. But what you don't mention is that your
theologolical beliefs seem to preclude most Christians. It
seems that many people who claim to follow Christ are actually
heretics in your book. What about Bible Bob, what about the
Catholic faith?
Now, this isn't to say that I'm perfect because I'm not,
but my fellow believers support me and I support them. Those
that oppose have different (or no) theological beliefs.
Yes like those Catholics and many more.
I would love to know how many of the 2 billion christians on this
planet you would consider to be heretics. Do you have a estimate
for us? I want to know who are the real Christians and who are
the heretics, I always get them mixed up.
It's because few Christians are blinded to reality
in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical
as you are.
Get off it and be quiet. You just can't stomach the fact that all
your
complaining and putting me in your posting name still can't tear me
down or
even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger because I
love God
and God is real. Plain and simple.
Whatever you wish to dream.
Will you be getting involved in a lucrative collaboration with Anna Tio
to grant degrees in CA? You are all alike, pariahs.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed.
Atheism
is becoming less and less respectable every day. You might as well
leave
the boat while you still have one.
I was under the impression that atheists never had a boat. Just
another example of your inability to comprehend. Are the US
founding fathers still affirming Jesus Christ in your mind too?
David D.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 08:13:35 PM |
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David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich wrote:
<snip>
Baloney again, Mr. Atheist. People that have different theological
beliefs oppose me. People that have the same theological beliefs
take my side. Nearly 100% of the time.
It's been our experience that if they don't side with you 100% of the time
you tell them they don't "the same theological beliefs"
But tell me how somebody can oppose a view of yours and have the same
belief?
Are they just kidding?
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| User: "Carson West" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
20 Mar 2005 02:24:00 AM |
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:12:10 +0000, Jason Gastrich wrote:
JISTASKKIN wrote:
"David D. aa#2219 thanks to Gastrich" <daycd@hotmail.com> wrote in
[Snip]
Yes Jason that would be you.
David,
Don't forget that you're in my killfile. This means I rarely
see gems like this. You may want to reconsider writing them.
Addressing me like I'm reading when I've killfiled you is insanity.
Or it could simply be an illustration that you can be rebutted and you
don't have the courage or integrity to respond intelligently to those
rebuttals. That seems to be a reasonable possibility. In fact, it seems
likely.
You may not see it but most people do.
Baloney, Mr. Atheist.
Why is it "baloney?"
[Snip]
It's because few Christians are blinded to
reality in the way you are. Few Christians are as egotistical as you
are.
Get off it and be quiet.
This is why I finally got off the fence and started to respond to you,
Jason. It's this kind of arrogance that *I* can no longer stomach.
You just can't stomach the fact that all your complaining and
putting me in your posting name still can't tear me down
or even deter my ministry. It just gets bigger and bigger...
I live in San Diego county, Jason. I work with a number of organizations
that provide services to others--some religious and some not--and your
ministry is a no-show. By all accounts, you're a krill in a very large
ocean.
...because I love God and God is real. Plain and simple.
You love yourself, which you equate to G-d. Plain and simple. At least
that's the impression I am left with whenever I read some of your threads.
Only *you* can disabuse me of that impression; but you don't seem to be
interested.
You might as well pick a new hobby. Atheists are a waning breed.
According to all accounts, they are a growing "breed." Fundamentalism
appears to be on the downside of the growth spurt from the early 80s.
Atheism is becoming less and less respectable every day.
Less respectable? Why is that?
You might as well leave the boat while you still have one.
Such a loving, Christian attitude, you display!
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
19 Mar 2005 06:32:25 AM |
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"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com...
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening, March 25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few days ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will look at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though the
entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport, will
not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with the
heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC to
feature
this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and
others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings for the
time in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time, let
them know of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can
see
the museum progress).
And you post this ***** to alt.atheism
because..................................?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
19 Mar 2005 07:07:12 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com...
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's
future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening,
March 25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few
days ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will
look at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though
the entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport,
will not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open
later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with
the heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC
to
feature this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be
on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings
for the time
in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time, let
them know
of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can
see the museum progress).
And you post this ***** to alt.atheism
because..................................?
Maybe he wants us to be prepared for an influx of the deconverted when
they come face to face with the sheer idiocy of the story.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
21 Mar 2005 10:49:52 AM |
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"JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrich's effort"
<jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
news:1111280832.536313.151360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Robibnikoff wrote:
"Jason Gastrich" <usenetspam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PDP_d.3616$4Y.842@twister.socal.rr.com...
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's
future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening,
March 25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few
days ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will
look at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though
the entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport,
will not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open
later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with
the heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC
to
feature this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family
and others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be
on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings
for the time
in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time, let
them know
of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they can
see the museum progress).
And you post this ***** to alt.atheism
because..................................?
Maybe he wants us to be prepared for an influx of the deconverted when
they come face to face with the sheer idiocy of the story.
One can only hope ;)
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "FreeThink" |
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| Title: Place your bets! Was:NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
23 Mar 2005 06:15:13 PM |
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Jason Gastrich wrote:
NBC News to feature the Creation Museum, March 25
"The NBC Nightly News . with Brian Williams" will showcase AiG's
future
Creation Museum on a nationwide news broadcast, Friday evening, March
25
(appropriately, this is Good Friday), 2005.
An NBC producer and video crew spent several hours at AiG a few days
ago.
The producer informs us that on March 25, the news segment will look
at
"vacation destination" possibilities for Christians. Even though the
entire
Creation Museum, located two exits west of the Cincinnati Airport,
will not
be open for at least two years (although initial sections will open
later
this year), the work already completed at the museum site-and with
the heavy
media coverage the museum has received worldwide-has prompted NBC to
feature
this national center.
Please forward this email to your pastor, church friends, family and
others
and let them know that AiG President Ken Ham and the museum will be
on
national TV on the evening of March 25 (check your local listings for
the
time in your area; schedule is subject to change). At the same time,
let
them know of our museum website, www.CreationMuseum.org (where they
can see
the museum progress).
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I vote that NBC will take a skeptical view of the Creation Museum. What
say you? If anyone has any inside information please state your
sources.
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| User: "LisaKay" |
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| Title: Re: Place your bets! Was:NBC News to Feature Creation Museum, March 25 |
25 Mar 2005 05:44:30 PM |
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I'm watching it now. I haven't seen the part about the Creation
Museum, but I bet they're not going to be skeptical. I'll let ya know!
-LisaKay
aa #2054
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