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"J Young" |
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09 Dec 2006 05:26:57 PM |
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NBC sermonizes against chastity |
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch that cannot
- and should not - stand against reckless sexuality.
Christians who turn from homosexuality are depicted as jokes, even
though multiple thousands of these individuals are wonderfully living
out their faith today. And Christian singles who determine that they
will remain chaste until marriage are similarly mocked.
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media. Strikingly, the major networks do
not see a double standard.
Earlier this year on "ER," a homosexual female impersonator was in the
series' hospital caring for his "partner." So moved by their love was
one of the attending doctors, he states, "You make me wish I was a drag
queen."
Imagine one of the "ER" doctors making that statement to a Christian
character.
Exactly. There's no way.
So passionate is the sentiment on these shows, they might as well hang
a sign for viewers to see on their TV screens: "Gay is good.
Christianity is bad."
I believe these negative media portrayals of Christians and
Christianity go hand-in-hand with the accelerating effort to purge our
nation of its Judeo-Christian symbols.
It's a one-two punch: The media depict Christians as either
mean-spirited ogres or easily influenced simpletons, while civil
libertarians attempt to convince our fellow citizens that America
should be free of religious symbols, specifically Christian ones.
This is why I believe our current battle to protect Christmas in the
public square is so important. If representations of Christmas are
outlawed, even informally, it is another nail in the coffin of public
religious expression.
Working closely with Liberty Counsel, which this year launched its
fourth annual "Friend or Foe Campaign," we have convinced many
retailers to return to utilizing expressions of Christmas in their
advertising, store displays and employee conversations. (Readers can
visit the Liberty Counsel website to see this year's "Naughty and Nice"
list, which shows which retailers have Christmas-friendly (and
unfriendly) policies.
We have also worked with pastors and churches across the country in
placing local newspaper ads that inform readers on the legalities of
public Christmas expressions.
I believe this is an important campaign. It is just one of the ways we
must work together to preserve our nation's Judeo-Christian heritage
against those whose deceptive campaign seeks to ignore and defy our
history. It is fully apparent that Christianity is in the crosshairs,
so we must work harder than ever to preserve our religious freedoms.
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| User: "No One" |
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09 Dec 2006 06:15:49 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
How hypocritical. When a TV program has a 'black', 'gay', 'hispanic',
etc. character, the guy is often portrayed as some sort of clown.
Why should Christians get a free ride and get special treatment?
One can only imagine what Falwell would have said about _Don Giovanni",
where Leporello holding the proverbial little black book, tells Donna
Elvira that she is only one among many:
Madamina, il catalogo è questo
Delle belle che amò il padron mio;
un catalogo egli è che ho fatt'io;
Osservate, leggete con me.
In Italia seicento e quaranta;
In Almagna duecento e trentuna;
Cento in Francia, in Turchia novantuna;
Ma in Ispagna son già mille e tre.
.... "In Italy 640, in Germany 230, 100 in France, 91 in Turkey, but
in Spain already a thousand and three. A thousand and three. A
thousand and three." Then he breaks them down by characteristics. He
likes fat ones in winter and thin ones in summer, ...
Stories like that have been around forever, and Falwell is mad about a
sexy babe on a dinner date where they don't actually do anything? LOL!
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
Now this is interesting - Jerry Falwell apparently watches Will and
Grace! Otherwise, how would he know? :-)
Of course, a scene like that *is* funny, and "so true" (remember the
prominent ex-gay who got caught in a gay bar?) You guys need to lighten
up.
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| User: "bowman" |
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09 Dec 2006 09:13:27 PM |
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No One wrote:
Now this is interesting - Jerry Falwell apparently watches Will and
Grace! Otherwise, how would he know? :-)
It's like pornography; a good, upright televangelist has to view it to tell
exactly how depraved and sinful it is and report back to the faithful. It's
a dirty job, but someone has to do it.
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| User: "No One" |
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10 Dec 2006 06:10:32 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Earlier this year on "ER," a homosexual female impersonator was in the
series' hospital caring for his "partner." So moved by their love was
one of the attending doctors, he states, "You make me wish I was a drag
queen."
Imagine one of the "ER" doctors making that statement to a Christian
character.
What's wrong with making such a statement to a Christian character, or
even a Christian in real life? Why can't Christians be drag queens?
A drag queen is simply a performer - a guy who dresses up in female
clothes for an act, whether amateur or professional.
Why is standing on a stage, wearing a dress and makeup, and lip-syncing
to some music a problem? It is not like appearing in a born-again
Mad Max bloodfest, and I don't hear Falwell ranting about Mad Max's
films.
Earth to Falwell: drag queens are theatrical performers. There is no
law that requires them to be gay, although most probably are. Some
people who appear in drag are definitely straight. Think Jack Lemmon
or Tony Curtis in _Some Like it Hot_, where they escape from the mob
in Chicago after witnessing a mafia execution by joining an all-female
band.
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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11 Dec 2006 12:56:19 PM |
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"No One" <noone@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:87mz5v5m2e.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
[snip]
Why is standing on a stage, wearing a dress and makeup, and lip-syncing
to some music a problem? It is not like appearing in a born-again
Mad Max bloodfest, and I don't hear Falwell ranting about Mad Max's
films.
It threatens the fragile egos of insecure white Christian heterosexual males
like Falwell.
[snip]
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| User: "The Chief Instigator" |
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10 Dec 2006 02:47:26 AM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> writes:
http://www.worldnetdaily[*blip!*]
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
....who needs to be drafted and immediately shipped to the heart of the Sunni
Triangle in Iraq. That would give us an incentive to get out of Iraq PDQ.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Omaha 4, Houston 3 (SO) (December 9)
NEXT GAME: Wednesday, December 13 vs. Manitoba, 7:05
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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09 Dec 2006 05:46:24 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1165706817.314100.209120@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
'Jerry Falwell' <scratching my head> ... isn't he the guy who holds the
treasonous belief that America should be taken over by Christians, and ruled
by Christians pretending that it's an invisible, undetectable, and utterly
incapable of speaking for his imaginary self 'God' who is *actually* doing
the 'ruling'? Is that the guy who 'secretly' hates and despises the Gay
people who were 'unfortunate' enough to be *born* that way but extends
'God's' (not his) genuine 'love' to? Oh yeah, it is.
As a completely 'straight' dude, I find him particularly offensive. Why?
Because he's a religious right nut-job who has helped to brainwash countless
'souls', for one. But one of the greatest loves of my life was a
pure-blooded lesbian. And she didn't deserve the pain and anguish people
like this Ja-moke has needlessly inflicted on decent, great men and women.
That's *more* than reason enough to despise the hate-mongering goof.
Greywolf
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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09 Dec 2006 05:28:49 PM |
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"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1165706817.314100.209120@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Ooh! Their fiction insults my fiction!
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Reality Sermonizes against chastity and ChristInsanity |
09 Dec 2006 06:55:29 PM |
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In article <1165706817.314100.209120@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan
Plan? What would that be. That you have to marry everyone who gets you
horny for five minutes? Even George W. Bush plan for occupying Iraq
seems clever compared to that ridiculous bible claptrap.
for sexuality is wrong.
More importantly, it's stupid. Don't forget that about the bible's so-
called "plan". To paraphrase Emile Durkheim, the bible's "plan" is not
responsive to modern life and that is why it is being abandoned.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to waste airtime showing someone
attempting to "walk" with an imaginary, ahistorical being like Jesus.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
That's because religious faith in general, and christinsanity in
particular is too simple-minded to handle the challenges of modern life.
Deal with it.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch
I think that's finally something Falwell and I can agree upon.
Christians who turn from homosexuality are depicted as jokes,
Welcome to the reality based community.
even
though multiple thousands
Multiple thousands, even if the number wasn't grossly inflated
propaganda, *is* a *joke* in a nation of 300 million people. If two
percent of the population is gay (of course it could be higher factoring
in republicans) then that's 6 million americans. Being charitable to
FoulWhale, I'll assume that by "multiple thousands" he means as many as
6000 people have actually succeeded at "de-gay-ifying" themselves. That
would still be less than one tenth of one percent of the gay population.
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media.
Oh get real. Christians are far more likely to be undeservedly praised
in the media, while atheists are quite standardly and unjustifiably
attacked.
Strikingly, the major networks do
not see a double standard.
Probably because there isn't one, except perhaps in that they often go
out of their way to coddle xian prejudices.
<FoulWhale's remaining sanctimonious whining snipped>
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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09 Dec 2006 07:24:21 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1fe508efc74b3e6a989cf5@news.readfreenews.net...
In article <1165706817.314100.209120@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com>,
youngopinions@aol.com says...
[snip]
even
though multiple thousands
Multiple thousands, even if the number wasn't grossly inflated
propaganda, *is* a *joke* in a nation of 300 million people. If two
percent of the population is gay (of course it could be higher factoring
in republicans) then that's 6 million americans. Being charitable to
FoulWhale, I'll assume that by "multiple thousands" he means as many as
6000 people have actually succeeded at "de-gay-ifying" themselves. That
would still be less than one tenth of one percent of the gay population.
If you keep presenting that higher math to the idiot fundies, we're going to
have to call in the HAZMAT crews to clean up the exploding heads.
[snip]
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| User: "Parsifal" |
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10 Dec 2006 03:36:39 AM |
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J Young schrieb:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
Please come with credible sources.
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Please come with credible people.
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
If the model had been you, they would have come up with something even
worse.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch that cannot
- and should not - stand against reckless sexuality.
Christians who turn from homosexuality are depicted as jokes,
They ARE jokes.
even
though multiple thousands of these individuals are wonderfully living
out their faith today. And Christian singles who determine that they
will remain chaste until marriage are similarly mocked.
Because they are not fooling anyone. Actually, we couldn't care less
about what people decide to do, it's just the constant "we have the
truth, if you don't do like us, you're evil" that gets on our nerves...
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media.
To quote you, you "wish to make an issue of some
good natured fun that [is] enjoyed; not only by the participants
involved, but also by the general public viewing on (...) television.
Why can't people just ease up and get a grip?"
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| User: "ScottyFLL" |
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09 Dec 2006 09:15:55 PM |
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J Young wrote:
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Jesus Christ! Is SHE still alive???
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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10 Dec 2006 05:23:33 PM |
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J Young wrote:
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch
You know, you could have began, and ended, your post with that.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"Life" insurance was a death benefit payable to the survivors of the insuree, so that they might exist despite the loss of income brought about by the person's demise.
"Death" insurance was the opposite. In this age it was possible -- and, indeed, commercially feasible -- to reanimate the dead. The insuree was by this policy guaranteed the right to stay dead, in whole or in part, once his mortal term was over. The certainty of death had become one of humanity's most important rights. DIA would spare no expense, up to the face value of the policy, to see that no insuree lived again against his will.
-- From _Hard Sell_ by Piers Anthony
(Brought to you by SigChanger. http://www.phranc.nl)
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11 Dec 2006 08:47:00 AM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch that cannot
- and should not - stand against reckless sexuality.
Christians who turn from homosexuality are depicted as jokes, even
though multiple thousands of these individuals are wonderfully living
out their faith today. And Christian singles who determine that they
will remain chaste until marriage are similarly mocked.
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media. Strikingly, the major networks do
not see a double standard.
Earlier this year on "ER," a homosexual female impersonator was in the
series' hospital caring for his "partner." So moved by their love was
one of the attending doctors, he states, "You make me wish I was a drag
queen."
Imagine one of the "ER" doctors making that statement to a Christian
character.
Exactly. There's no way.
So passionate is the sentiment on these shows, they might as well hang
a sign for viewers to see on their TV screens: "Gay is good.
Christianity is bad."
I believe these negative media portrayals of Christians and
Christianity go hand-in-hand with the accelerating effort to purge our
nation of its Judeo-Christian symbols.
It's a one-two punch: The media depict Christians as either
mean-spirited ogres or easily influenced simpletons, while civil
libertarians attempt to convince our fellow citizens that America
should be free of religious symbols, specifically Christian ones.
This is why I believe our current battle to protect Christmas in the
public square is so important. If representations of Christmas are
outlawed, even informally, it is another nail in the coffin of public
religious expression.
Working closely with Liberty Counsel, which this year launched its
fourth annual "Friend or Foe Campaign," we have convinced many
retailers to return to utilizing expressions of Christmas in their
advertising, store displays and employee conversations. (Readers can
visit the Liberty Counsel website to see this year's "Naughty and Nice"
list, which shows which retailers have Christmas-friendly (and
unfriendly) policies.
We have also worked with pastors and churches across the country in
placing local newspaper ads that inform readers on the legalities of
public Christmas expressions.
I believe this is an important campaign. It is just one of the ways we
must work together to preserve our nation's Judeo-Christian heritage
against those whose deceptive campaign seeks to ignore and defy our
history. It is fully apparent that Christianity is in the crosshairs,
so we must work harder than ever to preserve our religious freedoms.
<applause>
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10 Dec 2006 12:48:28 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
So she is joining the rest of humanity?
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Adult chastity is as wrong as homosexuality.
Neither lifestyle is worth a damn.
Michael
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10 Dec 2006 02:08:53 PM |
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I am very sorry, but I NEED A BIG HARD ***** UP INSIDE MY ***** RIGHT
NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody P L E A S E ***** ME!!
i need it B A D ! ! !
please please please won't somebody please ***** THE HELL OUT OF MY *****
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I am VERY VERY GAY and I NEED *****!! I NEED IT BAD!! UP IN MY *****!!
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09 Dec 2006 10:27:13 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
Hate to break it to Mr. Falwell, but characters who are perfect in
every way just aren't at all interesting.
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| User: "Ken" |
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09 Dec 2006 06:41:48 PM |
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J Young wrote:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
You mean this Jerry Falwell?
A prominent Southern Baptist Jesus freak, in addition to the whitest
man who ever lived. He is famous for making ignorant and offensive
pronouncements which are often followed by retractions and halfhearted
apologies.
Falwell has built a shtick out of making ridiculously offensive
statements about his detractors. A shining example of this was the
statement he made two days after the 9-11 terror attacks, while the
wreckage at Ground Zero was still smoking:
"The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God
will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent
babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the
abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are
actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People
for the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America,
I point the finger in their face and say: you helped this happen."
After withstanding a couple of days of tremendous public denunciations
(even from conservative ally Rush Limbaugh), Falwell was ultimately
forced to issue a non-apology. He tried his best to defuse the
situation without actually backing down: "I would never blame any human
being except the terrorists, and if I left that impression with gays or
lesbians or anyone else, I apologize."
Except that his statement explicitly did blame people other than the
terrorists. Lots of them. The same people, in fact, that Falwell's
continually blamed for America's problems ever since founding the Moral
Majority in 1979.
Falwell once proclaimed: "I have a Divine Mandate to go into the halls
of Congress and fight for laws that will save America." Accordingly,
the Moral Majority was conceived as a tool to provide leverage for
Falwell to influence the Republican party platform and help their
candidates to get elected.
His mission? "We must, from the highest office in the land right down
to the shoeshine boy in the airport, have a return to Biblical basics."
Falwell's strategy was to create a voting block of Christian
conservatives and insinuate them into the Republican party. So he urged
fundamentalists and evangelicals to set aside their differences and
mobilize under his unifying banner. The Moral Majority's rank-and-file
members were expected to vote the way Jerry told them. "Christians,
like slaves and soldiers, ask no questions," he explained.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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10 Dec 2006 12:47:59 AM |
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On 9 Dec 2006 16:41:48 -0800, "Ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:
His mission? "We must, from the highest office in the land right down
to the shoeshine boy in the airport, have a return to Biblical basics."
He wants a boy to vote? I don't think that's what he meant. And I
don't think I have to point out the glaring racial slur to anyone who
has half a brain cell.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
I cannot conceive of a god who rewards and punishes his creatures
or has a will of the kind that we experience in ourselves. Neither
can I nor would I want to conceive of an individual that survives
its physical death; let feeble souls, from fear or absurd egotism,
cherish such thoughts. I am satisfied with the mystery of the eter-
nity of life and a glimpse of the marvelous structure of the exist-
ing world, together with the devoted striving to comprehend a
portion, be it ever so tiny, of the Reason that manifests itself in
nature.
- Albert Einstein, as quoted in _Billions and Billions_, Carl Sagan.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: NBC sermonizes against chastity |
10 Dec 2006 09:27:39 AM |
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In article <qabnn258tl85repqotd6lpq800r9af4t8f@4ax.com>,
rukbat@pern.invalid says...
On 9 Dec 2006 16:41:48 -0800, "Ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:
His mission? "We must, from the highest office in the land right down
to the shoeshine boy in the airport, have a return to Biblical basics."
He wants a boy to vote? I don't think that's what he meant. And I
don't think I have to point out the glaring racial slur to anyone who
has half a brain cell.
Glaring racial slurs are part of the "Biblical basic" to which Falwell
would like our country to return.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: NBC sermonizes against chastity |
10 Dec 2006 11:45:29 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 08:27:39 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <qabnn258tl85repqotd6lpq800r9af4t8f@4ax.com>,
rukbat@pern.invalid says...
On 9 Dec 2006 16:41:48 -0800, "Ken" <flakey714@aol.com> wrote:
His mission? "We must, from the highest office in the land right down
to the shoeshine boy in the airport, have a return to Biblical basics."
He wants a boy to vote? I don't think that's what he meant. And I
don't think I have to point out the glaring racial slur to anyone who
has half a brain cell.
Glaring racial slurs are part of the "Biblical basic" to which Falwell
would like our country to return.
Except that in the Bible discrimination wasn't always along racial
lines.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Never in human history have such genocide and cruelty been
witnessed. Such a genocide was never seen in the time of the pharaohs nor
of Hitler nor of Mussolini."
- Mehmet Elkatmi, head of Turkish parliament's human rights commission
on Bush's genocide in the Iraq war. 11-28-2004
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: NBC sermonizes against chastity |
10 Dec 2006 12:44:25 AM |
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On 9 Dec 2006 15:26:57 -0800, "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:
The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
A Christian is portrayed as being intelligent and Foldwell complains?
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
And we did. How surprising.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch that cannot
- and should not - stand against reckless sexuality.
Yes, and?
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media.
Aside from just about everyone other than Martians.
Earlier this year on "ER," a homosexual female impersonator was in the
series' hospital caring for his "partner." So moved by their love was
one of the attending doctors, he states, "You make me wish I was a drag
queen."
Rather than one of the 50% of "Christians" whose marriage ends in
divorce every year.
they might as well hang
a sign for viewers to see on their TV screens: "Gay is good.
Christianity is bad."
They're not brave enough to tell the truth ... yet.
It's a one-two punch: The media depict Christians as either
mean-spirited ogres or easily influenced simpletons
Maybe if Christians weren't either mean-spirited ogres or easily
influenced simpletons they wouldn't portray them as such.
This is why I believe our current battle to protect Christmas in the
public square is so important. If representations of Christmas are
outlawed
By government. They were outlawed over 200 years ago.
even informally, it is another nail in the coffin of public
religious expression.
There's a difference between public expression and government
expression. The former is fine, the latter is illegal. But the claim
does point out what easily influenced simpletons a lot of Christians
are.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"Shake off all the fears of servile prejudices, under which weak minds
are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call on her
tribunal for every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the
existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of
the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear."
- Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826)
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NBC sermonizes against chastity |
09 Dec 2006 07:56:07 PM |
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On Sat, 09 Dec 2006 15:26:57 -0800, J Young wrote:
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states
It is.
Not that *you would know...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
-H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Jaye Elke" |
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| Title: Re: NBC sermonizes against chastity |
10 Dec 2006 09:00:29 PM |
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You don't even know anything about our Judeo-Christian heritage, you
hypocrite.
"J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1165706817.314100.209120@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com...
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53295
By Rev. Jerry Falwell
Thursday night on NBC's "ER," the character of Hope Bobeck, who is
defined as a Christian, abruptly decides that she should enter a sexual
relationship with an atheist character.
"Chastity has always been overrated," she states as she tells Dr.
Archie Morris that they should meet for dinner and drinks and then "see
what happens." The doctor did determine not to join her for this tryst,
but who knows what will happen in future episodes? The point here is
that the portrayal is of a Christian young lady who suddenly determines
that the Bible's plan for sexuality is wrong.
Earlier this year, when NBC announced that "ER" would incorporate a
Christian character into the series, many Christians held out hope that
maybe just once we would see an honest depiction of someone who chooses
to walk with Christ.
Instead, we get an often-bungling character whose Christian faith is
easily challenged and defeated.
This is typical of the so-called mainstream media.
The storyline reminds me of a "Will and Grace" episode a few years ago
in which a gathering of ex-gays (people who have walked away from
homosexuality) suddenly run off with each other, overcome by their
sexual urges.
The message here is clear: Christianity is a feeble crutch that cannot
- and should not - stand against reckless sexuality.
Christians who turn from homosexuality are depicted as jokes, even
though multiple thousands of these individuals are wonderfully living
out their faith today. And Christian singles who determine that they
will remain chaste until marriage are similarly mocked.
I continue to insist that Christians are the only group in America that
is routinely demeaned in the media. Strikingly, the major networks do
not see a double standard.
Earlier this year on "ER," a homosexual female impersonator was in the
series' hospital caring for his "partner." So moved by their love was
one of the attending doctors, he states, "You make me wish I was a drag
queen."
Imagine one of the "ER" doctors making that statement to a Christian
character.
Exactly. There's no way.
So passionate is the sentiment on these shows, they might as well hang
a sign for viewers to see on their TV screens: "Gay is good.
Christianity is bad."
I believe these negative media portrayals of Christians and
Christianity go hand-in-hand with the accelerating effort to purge our
nation of its Judeo-Christian symbols.
It's a one-two punch: The media depict Christians as either
mean-spirited ogres or easily influenced simpletons, while civil
libertarians attempt to convince our fellow citizens that America
should be free of religious symbols, specifically Christian ones.
This is why I believe our current battle to protect Christmas in the
public square is so important. If representations of Christmas are
outlawed, even informally, it is another nail in the coffin of public
religious expression.
Working closely with Liberty Counsel, which this year launched its
fourth annual "Friend or Foe Campaign," we have convinced many
retailers to return to utilizing expressions of Christmas in their
advertising, store displays and employee conversations. (Readers can
visit the Liberty Counsel website to see this year's "Naughty and Nice"
list, which shows which retailers have Christmas-friendly (and
unfriendly) policies.
We have also worked with pastors and churches across the country in
placing local newspaper ads that inform readers on the legalities of
public Christmas expressions.
I believe this is an important campaign. It is just one of the ways we
must work together to preserve our nation's Judeo-Christian heritage
against those whose deceptive campaign seeks to ignore and defy our
history. It is fully apparent that Christianity is in the crosshairs,
so we must work harder than ever to preserve our religious freedoms.
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: chastity is good |
10 Dec 2006 12:19:03 AM |
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chastity is good but I NEED A BIG HARD ***** UP INSIDE MY ***** RIGHT
NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody P L E A S E ***** ME!!
i need it B A D ! ! !
please please please won't somebody please ***** THE HELL OUT OF MY *****
HOLE!
I am VERY VERY GAY and I NEED *****!! I NEED IT BAD!! UP IN MY *****!!
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| User: "bobandcarole" |
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| Title: Re: chastity is good |
11 Dec 2006 08:42:24 AM |
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bobandcarole wrote:
chastity is good but I NEED A BIG HARD ***** UP INSIDE MY ***** RIGHT
NOW!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody P L E A S E ***** ME!!
i need it B A D ! ! !
please please please won't somebody please ***** THE HELL OUT OF MY *****
HOLE!
I am VERY VERY GAY and I NEED *****!! I NEED IT BAD!! UP IN MY *****!!
I am SO embarrassed! I guess I will have to give up my generic vodka
and Tang drink! lol
Chastity is really bad. Sex is good. I like sex but nobody wants to
have sex with me because I am so vile and disgusting. Are there any
other dudes out there who are fresh out of the closet like me? Please
send me your phone number.
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