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Religions > Atheism |
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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25 May 2005 12:26:06 AM |
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NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1646 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
25 May 2005 10:04:29 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 09:42:49 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:11ble.1692$rY6.689@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you
"go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to
deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who
points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines"
your Dear Leader's war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of
their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control
to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed
military official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're
withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else is new?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 02:05:45 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:11ble.1692$rY6.689@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you
"go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to
deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who
points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines"
your Dear Leader's war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on the
side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control
to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed
military official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're
withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else is
new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there will be at
least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or supply the
protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word tends to loose
it's meaning
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 03:02:42 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:d6ple.1867$rY6.1699@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:11ble.1692$rY6.689@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that
you "go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's
okay to deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow
anyone who points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow
"undermines" your Dear Leader's war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on the
side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One
unnamed military official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but
we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else is
new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there will
be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection than
anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your "point", if you
can call it that, has already long since lost it's meaning.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 06:55:06 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:d6ple.1867$rY6.1699@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:11ble.1692$rY6.689@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that
you "go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's
okay to deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow
anyone who points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow
"undermines" your Dear Leader's war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on the
side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders] can't
use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're
doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else is
new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there will
be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection than
anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your "point", if
you can call it that, has already long since lost it's meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and put
40,000 Iraqi troops in?
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other sections.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 07:55:39 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:d6ple.1867$rY6.1699@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:11ble.1692$rY6.689@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that
you "go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's
okay to deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow
anyone who points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow
"undermines" your Dear Leader's war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders] can't
use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're
doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else is
new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection than
anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your "point", if
you can call it that, has already long since lost it's meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/misc/pdfaq2.html#41
"There are currently 39,110 police officers in NYPD. This is the total
number of Police Officers, Detectives, Sergeants, Lieutenants, Captains,
Deputy Inspectors, Inspectors, Deputy Chiefs, Assistant Chiefs, and
Bureau Chiefs budgeted for fiscal year 2003."
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
26 May 2005 09:04:03 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders]
can't use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what
we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else
is new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection
than anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your
"point", if you can call it that, has already long since lost it's
meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
Irrrelevant strawman. You said "Since we control all the major cities..."
Either we do or we don't and I say we don't.
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
I am talking about your stated claims, not what you did in Florida.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
27 May 2005 07:04:06 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:nevle.1963$rY6.992@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203
which among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially
Ceded Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders]
can't use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what
we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else
is new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the
word tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection
than anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your
"point", if you can call it that, has already long since lost it's
meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
Irrrelevant strawman. You said "Since we control all the major
cities..." Either we do or we don't and I say we don't.
Nice snip, fuckhead.
And I say that we do. So ***** you twice.
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
I am talking about your stated claims, not what you did in Florida.
***** you three times.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
27 May 2005 01:30:48 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:nevle.1963$rY6.992@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203
which among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially
Ceded Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders]
can't use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what
we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else
is new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the
word tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection
than anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your
"point", if you can call it that, has already long since lost it's
meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
Irrrelevant strawman. You said "Since we control all the major
cities..." Either we do or we don't and I say we don't.
Nice snip, fuckhead.
And I say that we do. So ***** you twice.
You do, the military and the rest of the world thinks otherwise.
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
I am talking about your stated claims, not what you did in Florida.
***** you three times.
My, my, my. A bit testy aren't we.
I guess you want to be a bonobo and have sex when you run out of straw.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
28 May 2005 10:06:21 PM |
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 02:04:03 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders]
can't use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what
we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else
is new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection
than anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your
"point", if you can call it that, has already long since lost it's
meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
Irrrelevant strawman. You said "Since we control all the major cities..."
Either we do or we don't and I say we don't.
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
I am talking about your stated claims, not what you did in Florida.
You gotta remember Phelching Phreddies terminal cowardice and
dishonesty.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
27 May 2005 02:43:37 AM |
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On Fri, 27 May 2005 02:04:03 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:ultle.1761$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on
the side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has
essentially ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi
resistance. One unnamed military official said "[Commanders]
can't use the word, but we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what
we're doing." "
So the traitor media still pretends that we're losing. What else
is new?
That you are going to start printing your own newspaper so there
will be at least one you agree with.
When you declare "victory" and can't even control a major city or
supply the protection people had under the Saddamn regime, the word
tends to loose it's meaning
Since we control all the major cities and supply more protection
than anybody other than Saddam himself had under Saddam, your
"point", if you can call it that, has already long since lost it's
meaning.
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
Do we control New York City?
Irrrelevant strawman. You said "Since we control all the major cities..."
Either we do or we don't and I say we don't.
Because apparently New York City is just as dangerous as Iraq, like
how Mayor Blooberg has to hide behind the Green Zone and can't go to
areas such as Rockefeller Center without a full armor escort, in Fred
Stone's NeoCon lala-land.
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
I drove real fast through certain parts of Miami, Florida.
I am talking about your stated claims, not what you did in Florida.
You see, Fred Stone is just trying to take a page out of Ann Coulter
school of dishonesty. You may remember that Ann Coulter tried to
whitewash the death of American GIs by falsely claiming that you are
more likely to be murdered in DC than in Iraq.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1652 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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27 May 2005 10:17:10 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:ultle.1761
$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and put
40,000 Iraqi troops in?
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other sections.
We drive real fast through the "Green Zone."
You *can* take a taxi from the heart of the green zone to the airport,
roughly six miles..
It costs you USD$35,000. Each way.
Fred is operating under a different definition of "control" than everyone
else.
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28 May 2005 12:49:19 AM |
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Lee Oswald Ving wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:ultle.1761
$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
We drive real fast through the "Green Zone."
You *can* take a taxi from the heart of the green zone to the airport,
roughly six miles..
It costs you USD$35,000. Each way.
Fred is operating under a different definition of "control" than
everyone else.
An engineer, a physicist and a mathematician were set to design the smallest
fence that could keep 10 sheep inside.
The engineer through up a fence and shoved the sheep in.
The physicist carefully designed a fence based on a particular arrangement
of the animals.
The mathematician built a very small fence around himself and said "I define
my location as outside."
I think Fred's idea of control is the same as the mathematicians.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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30 May 2005 07:58:33 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zDTle.21964$J12.1503@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
Lee Oswald Ving wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:ultle.1761
$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
We drive real fast through the "Green Zone."
You *can* take a taxi from the heart of the green zone to the
airport, roughly six miles..
It costs you USD$35,000. Each way.
Fred is operating under a different definition of "control" than
everyone else.
An engineer, a physicist and a mathematician were set to design the
smallest fence that could keep 10 sheep inside.
The engineer through up a fence and shoved the sheep in.
The physicist carefully designed a fence based on a particular
arrangement of the animals.
The mathematician built a very small fence around himself and said "I
define my location as outside."
I think Fred's idea of control is the same as the mathematicians.
No, I just listen to the soldiers instead of the "journalists" who spend
all their time "reporting" from the Baghdad Hilton.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "Lee Oswald Ving" |
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01 Jun 2005 09:35:26 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in
news:1117457915.4441f89ba74bddeb3365931ba4d62d1a@teranews:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zDTle.21964$J12.1503@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
Lee Oswald Ving wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:ultle.1761
$kS3.1268@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
So Baghdad is no longer a major city?
If we control it why is there a plan to build a wall aroound it and
put 40,000 Iraqi troops in?
We control the Green Zone and drive real fast through the other
sections.
We drive real fast through the "Green Zone."
You *can* take a taxi from the heart of the green zone to the
airport, roughly six miles..
It costs you USD$35,000. Each way.
Fred is operating under a different definition of "control" than
everyone else.
An engineer, a physicist and a mathematician were set to design the
smallest fence that could keep 10 sheep inside.
The engineer through up a fence and shoved the sheep in.
The physicist carefully designed a fence based on a particular
arrangement of the animals.
The mathematician built a very small fence around himself and said "I
define my location as outside."
I think Fred's idea of control is the same as the mathematicians.
No, I just listen to the soldiers instead of the "journalists" who
spend
all their time "reporting" from the Baghdad Hilton.
Wave your hands any harder, Stone, and you're likely to fly away.
$35,000, Fred. Each way.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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01 Jun 2005 10:17:44 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:35:26 GMT in alt.atheism, Lee Oswald Ving (Lee
Oswald Ving <leeoving@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
[snip]
$35,000, Fred. Each way.
I wonder if that includes the tip?
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| User: "stoney" |
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06 Jun 2005 09:38:36 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 15:17:44 GMT, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Jun 2005 14:35:26 GMT in alt.atheism, Lee Oswald Ving (Lee
Oswald Ving <leeoving@yahoo.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
[snip]
$35,000, Fred. Each way.
I wonder if that includes the tip?
Of course it doesn't.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "stoney" |
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27 May 2005 09:00:32 PM |
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On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
29 May 2005 02:02:29 AM |
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In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still don't
get it.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 May 2005 01:03:32 PM |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:02:29 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
I fully understand that. I was indicating the flip side of the
fortified enclaves 'coin.' It remains a 'target rich environment'
regardless is the Iraqi's are able to capitalize on it, or not.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still don't
get it.
Of course not. The stupid bastards can't think. I almost fell out of
my chair when the Special Forces personnel on the Afghani President
protection detail were ordered to adhere to US military dress and
haircut regulations. That general might as well have ordered those
people shot. "We have regulations, you know!" is the order of a dumb
***** in those circumstances.
It sounds like the patrols through the cities are on set routes, if
not times. Such is 'ducks in a shooting gallery.'
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
Yes, but the Bush financials are the stronger for it.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
29 May 2005 06:38:09 PM |
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In article <vf0k91lf30853ufc0n5a4a3e5t598hec55@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:02:29 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
I fully understand that. I was indicating the flip side of the
fortified enclaves 'coin.' It remains a 'target rich environment'
regardless is the Iraqi's are able to capitalize on it, or not.
That won't stop them from lobbing an occasional mortar shell or rocket
into them just to keep us on edge.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still don't
get it.
Of course not. The stupid bastards can't think. I almost fell out of
my chair when the Special Forces personnel on the Afghani President
protection detail were ordered to adhere to US military dress and
haircut regulations. That general might as well have ordered those
people shot. "We have regulations, you know!" is the order of a dumb
***** in those circumstances.
Yeah. It doesn't matter how many you lose as long as you were 'following
regulations'.
It sounds like the patrols through the cities are on set routes, if
not times. Such is 'ducks in a shooting gallery.'
Except in the amusement park shooting gallery, the 'ducks' come back to
life.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
Yes, but the Bush financials are the stronger for it.
<cue the White House Tabernacle Choir>
Halli-burton, Halli-burton, forever and ever...
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
29 May 2005 06:54:14 PM |
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"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-209638.16380929052005@news.
Except in the amusement park shooting gallery, the 'ducks' come back to
life.
Nah. It just looks that way, now that they've *reinstated the draft*...!
<cue the White House Tabernacle Choir>
You mean: *The Moron Tabernacle Choir*...!!
Let us spray:
"In the name of Bush the Father;
And of Bush the Son;
And of the Halli-Burton,
A-men ... are expendable..."
Katt.
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| User: "johac" |
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30 May 2005 12:21:57 AM |
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In article <GCsme.1296$s25.720@newsfe1-win.ntli.net>,
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote:
"johac" <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in message
news:jhachm-209638.16380929052005@news.
Except in the amusement park shooting gallery, the 'ducks' come back to
life.
Nah. It just looks that way, now that they've *reinstated the draft*...!
Bush is probably asking if they can clone the soldiers.
<cue the White House Tabernacle Choir>
You mean: *The Moron Tabernacle Choir*...!!
Let us spray:
"In the name of Bush the Father;
And of Bush the Son;
And of the Halli-Burton,
A-men ... are expendable..."
Very good!
Katt.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
30 May 2005 08:11:36 PM |
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On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:38:09 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <vf0k91lf30853ufc0n5a4a3e5t598hec55@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:02:29 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
I fully understand that. I was indicating the flip side of the
fortified enclaves 'coin.' It remains a 'target rich environment'
regardless is the Iraqi's are able to capitalize on it, or not.
That won't stop them from lobbing an occasional mortar shell or rocket
into them just to keep us on edge.
Of course. Such ties up more personnel and resources.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still don't
get it.
Of course not. The stupid bastards can't think. I almost fell out of
my chair when the Special Forces personnel on the Afghani President
protection detail were ordered to adhere to US military dress and
haircut regulations. That general might as well have ordered those
people shot. "We have regulations, you know!" is the order of a dumb
***** in those circumstances.
Yeah. It doesn't matter how many you lose as long as you were 'following
regulations'.
Too bad the losses aren't among the braindead general officers.
It sounds like the patrols through the cities are on set routes, if
not times. Such is 'ducks in a shooting gallery.'
Except in the amusement park shooting gallery, the 'ducks' come back to
life.
Whereas in real life the 'ducks' get replaced.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
Yes, but the Bush financials are the stronger for it.
<cue the White House Tabernacle Choir>
Halli-burton, Halli-burton, forever and ever...
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
31 May 2005 12:10:06 AM |
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In article <8aen91lsj4oc8aqfrn19g9tqavfk0uo76t@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2005 16:38:09 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <vf0k91lf30853ufc0n5a4a3e5t598hec55@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 May 2005 00:02:29 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic.
***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that you "go with
the
army you have, not the one you want", that it's okay to deny the
soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow anyone who points out
the
idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow "undermines" your Dear
Leader's
war effort.
====================
"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of snuffing
out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire,
because the vast majority of the people there are on the side of
their
own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among
other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded Control to
Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded
much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One unnamed
military
official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but we're withdrawing.
Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
I fully understand that. I was indicating the flip side of the
fortified enclaves 'coin.' It remains a 'target rich environment'
regardless is the Iraqi's are able to capitalize on it, or not.
That won't stop them from lobbing an occasional mortar shell or rocket
into them just to keep us on edge.
Of course. Such ties up more personnel and resources.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still don't
get it.
Of course not. The stupid bastards can't think. I almost fell out of
my chair when the Special Forces personnel on the Afghani President
protection detail were ordered to adhere to US military dress and
haircut regulations. That general might as well have ordered those
people shot. "We have regulations, you know!" is the order of a dumb
***** in those circumstances.
Yeah. It doesn't matter how many you lose as long as you were 'following
regulations'.
Too bad the losses aren't among the braindead general officers.
I still think that the generals should be the ones at the head of the
troops going into battle in the lead Humvee or tank.
It sounds like the patrols through the cities are on set routes, if
not times. Such is 'ducks in a shooting gallery.'
Except in the amusement park shooting gallery, the 'ducks' come back to
life.
Whereas in real life the 'ducks' get replaced.
The military is good at finding more 'ducks'.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
Yes, but the Bush financials are the stronger for it.
<cue the White House Tabernacle Choir>
Halli-burton, Halli-burton, forever and ever...
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
30 May 2005 09:00:50 AM |
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johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-390AC2.00022929052005@news.giganews.com:
In article <12kf9196d2qsih7e60fmtit9bihv4ss1gf@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 26 May 2005 03:04:29 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
Hey Fred, shut the ***** up.
Oh, and there is a difference between "defeatist" and being
realistic. ***** NeoCons like you pretend nothing is wrong, that
you "go with the army you have, not the one you want", that it's
okay to deny the soldiers basic medical supplies. But somehow
anyone who points out the idiocy of the NeoCon war plan somehow
"undermines" your Dear Leader's war effort.
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"We are engaged in the endgame of a war, the dirty days of
snuffing out the last of the opposition. "
-Fred Stone 8/28/2003, on Iraq
"... the insurgents in Iraq are losing, where Iraq is not a
quagmire, because the vast majority of the people there are on the
side of their own free, democratic government."
-Fred Stone 4/24/2005, on Iraq
====================
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/25/1414203 which
among other things says that the "U.S. Has Essentially Ceded
Control to Resistance
And the Los Angeles Times is reporting that the U.S. has essentially
ceded much of the Anbar province to the Iraqi resistance. One
unnamed military official said "[Commanders] can't use the word, but
we're withdrawing. Slowly, that's what we're doing." "
That was apparent long ago. There are some 'fortified enclaves,' but
that's what's known as a "target rich environment" for the Iraqi's
fighting for their country.
They're not going to attack our fortified enclaves when they can go
after softer targets like the Iraqi government forces or our convoys.
Guerilla warfare 101 - attack the enemy where he is weak, retreat and
hide when he comes at you in strength. Our military leaders still
don't get it.
What a waste of resources, infrastructure, and lives.
No *****..
Fucking liberal morons, still losing the Vietnam war...
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
30 May 2005 08:29:36 PM |
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Fucking liberal morons, still losing the Vietnam war...
It's hard to see how victory in Vietnam then or in Iraq now, would
benefit us enough to make the costs you call for, worth it. So I'd say
it's liberal non-morons, both in the case of Vietnam then and Iraq now.
We should withdraw from Iraq.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
30 May 2005 09:10:21 PM |
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wrote in news:1117502976.815837.115810
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fucking liberal morons, still losing the Vietnam war...
It's hard to see how victory in Vietnam then or in Iraq now, would
benefit us enough to make the costs you call for, worth it.
Of course, you liberals don't see freedom as being worth the cost.
So I'd say
it's liberal non-morons, both in the case of Vietnam then and Iraq now.
We should withdraw from Iraq.
That would make it absolutely certain that the cost wouldn't be worth it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Even if the grass is greener on the other side,
they still have to cut it.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
30 May 2005 09:20:27 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
nitin_paul_batra@hotmail.com wrote in news:1117502976.815837.115810
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fucking liberal morons, still losing the Vietnam war...
It's hard to see how victory in Vietnam then or in Iraq now, would
benefit us enough to make the costs you call for, worth it.
Of course, you liberals don't see freedom as being worth the cost.
Vietnam was not a threat to our freedom, and neither is Iraq. Bush,
however, is a threat to our freedom, as denoted by the Patriot Act.
So I'd say
it's liberal non-morons, both in the case of Vietnam then and Iraq now.
We should withdraw from Iraq.
That would make it absolutely certain that the cost wouldn't be worth it.
It wasn't worth it.
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| User: "Katt" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon Fred Stone: Iraqi Insurgents "Dying Out" |
01 Jun 2005 08:34:29 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:LRPme.10258$3u3.7350@trnddc07...
Fred Stone wrote:
nitin_paul_batra@hotmail.com wrote in news:1117502976.815837.115810
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Fucking liberal morons, still losing the Vietnam war...
It's hard to see how victory in Vietnam then or in Iraq now, would
benefit us enough to make the costs you call for, worth it.
Of course, you liberals don't see freedom as being worth the cost.
Vietnam was not a threat to our freedom, and neither is Iraq. Bush,
however, is a threat to our freedom, as denoted by the Patriot Act.
And Iraqi 'freeedom' was never the issue or the intention; and the country
isn't free now.
And as for the *cost*:
http://www.costofwar.com
Katt.
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