Religions > Atheism > NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason)
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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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24 Dec 2005 10:19:55 AM |
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NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
The Gorelick Myth
In the National Review, Byron York has an article called “Clinton
Claimed Authority to Order No-Warrant Searches.” In it, he cites
then-Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick’s July 14, 1994 testimony
where she argues “the President has inherent authority to conduct
warrantless physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes.”
(This afternoon, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) quoted her testimony on the
Senate floor.)
Here is what York obscures: at the time of Gorelick’s testimony,
physical searches weren’t covered under the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act (FISA). It’s not surprising that, in 1994, Gorelick
argued that physical searches weren’t covered by FISA. They weren’t.
With Clinton’s backing, the law was amended in 1995 to include
physical searches.
York claims that, after the law was amended, “the Clinton
administration did not back down from its contention that the
president had the authority to act when necessary.” That’s false.
Neither Gorelick or the Clinton administration ever argued that
president’s inherent “authority” allowed him to ignore FISA. (We’ve
posted the full text of Gorelick’s testimony here).
The Clinton administration viewed FISA, a criminal statute, as the
law. The Bush administration viewed it as a recommendations they could
ignore. That’s the difference.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2160 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:01:14 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:28:28 AM |
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"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
Got a truth for you. Corporations are not bound by the laws that bind the
government.
Larry
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:35:26 AM |
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In article <dok0kk$c08p$1@news3.infoave.net>, Larry Hewitt
<larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
Got a truth for you. Corporations are not bound by the laws that bind the
government.
Larry
I tried to explain that to them. The Right Wing isn't know for truth
and knowledge.
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 04:42:09 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:35:26 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <dok0kk$c08p$1@news3.infoave.net>, Larry Hewitt
<larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
Got a truth for you. Corporations are not bound by the laws that bind the
government.
Larry
I tried to explain that to them. The Right Wing isn't know for truth
and knowledge.
But truth and knowledgehas such a liberal bias!
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2160 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
-----
"Now, did I want to go? Hell no."
-duke (duckgumbo32@cox.net), aka PedophilEarl J Weber, 63
year old mateless, heirless biological failure
of Afton Oaks Apartment, Baton Rouge, on why
a Neocon chickenhawk like him pussied out of
the Vietnam War.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 06:31:41 PM |
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In article <jljrq1te29j5l21h0ml9kc3fl87259kf34@4ax.com>, h.c
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:35:26 GMT, "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com>
wrote:
In article <dok0kk$c08p$1@news3.infoave.net>, Larry Hewitt
<larryhewi@comporium.net> wrote:
"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
Got a truth for you. Corporations are not bound by the laws that bind the
government.
Larry
I tried to explain that to them. The Right Wing isn't know for truth
and knowledge.
But truth and knowledgehas such a liberal bias!
True. To them, liberalism and truth are synonymous.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:04:11 AM |
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In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
.
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| User: "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:07:57 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:12:22 AM |
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In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob. Due process only
applies with government actions. Get an education and get back to be.
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| User: "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:16:02 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave. Grow your own brain, willya?
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:20:41 AM |
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In article <rg0rq1185dq026tg1vr5n73vvh7hjgd79k@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave. Grow your own brain, willya?
Right - the whole liberals are socialists" lie. LOL!
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| User: "¿mÿ§t뮦@n?" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:24:15 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <rg0rq1185dq026tg1vr5n73vvh7hjgd79k@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave. Grow your own brain, willya?
Right - the whole liberals are socialists" lie. LOL!
Right- the whole "we're not commies- we're Americans just like you!"
denial. LOL!
It's not playing very well any more, Dave. You losers are even
swearing off gun control just to get people to start liking you again!
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| User: "David W. Barnes" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:26:51 AM |
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In article <4v0rq1192p2243lhd87rljt636bm3tbsc6@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <rg0rq1185dq026tg1vr5n73vvh7hjgd79k@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it -
without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave. Grow your own brain, willya?
Right - the whole liberals are socialists" lie. LOL!
Right- the whole "we're not commies- we're Americans just like you!"
denial. LOL!
Everything the Right stands for is available in the middle east. Why
don't you just move there?
It's not playing very well any more, Dave. You losers are even
swearing off gun control just to get people to start liking you again!
Whatever that means.
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24 Dec 2005 11:32:17 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <4v0rq1192p2243lhd87rljt636bm3tbsc6@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <rg0rq1185dq026tg1vr5n73vvh7hjgd79k@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u20rq1170n8j9n06dhh0ij6k0vt4un2egu@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it -
without
any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave. Grow your own brain, willya?
Right - the whole liberals are socialists" lie. LOL!
Right- the whole "we're not commies- we're Americans just like you!"
denial. LOL!
Everything the Right stands for is available in the middle east. Why
don't you just move there?
I'm waiting for you to move to the socialist paradise of North Korea.
It's not playing very well any more, Dave. You losers are even
swearing off gun control just to get people to start liking you again!
Whatever that means.
Sorry- did I use too many big words for you?
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24 Dec 2005 12:49:12 PM |
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¿mÿ§t뮦@n? <?@?.com> wrote:
"David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
So you are another simple minded Right Wing boob.
It just appears that way to you, because I'm not part of the Socialist
Collective like you, Dave.
You're a member of the fascist collective?
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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24 Dec 2005 12:48:45 PM |
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¿mÿ§t뮦@n? <?@?.com> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <u9frf.430472$084.154109@attbi_s22>, Morton Davis
<antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And I have truth for you. Due process doesn't apply when corporations
spy on others. This is the problem with the Right - must of you are
ignorant as to the law.
Pretty funny, coming from a leftist dupe like you, Dave.
The mentality of the right-wing cultist - ignorance is a badge of
honor, and when they cannot refute the facts then they ignore the
facts.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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24 Dec 2005 11:05:47 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And then he gave the same right to the Chinese.
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:08:07 AM |
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In article <kuvqq19joc32q3opi2dr7fhj3a1t67vf88@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And then he gave the same right to the Chinese.
And then he declared the earth was flat, right? What next? Clinton is
the father to an alien baby?
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 11:12:38 AM |
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In talk.politics.guns "David W. Barnes" <dbarnes@aol.com> wrote:
In article <kuvqq19joc32q3opi2dr7fhj3a1t67vf88@4ax.com>,
<"¿mÿ§t뮦@n?"> wrote:
In talk.politics.guns "Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in message
news:95tqq1llmidhsvpcukk8cqquc6ifvutnsp@4ax.com...
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
Got a truth for you. Clinton pushed for and signed a bill that allows
corporations to spy on Americans or to hire outsiders to do it - without any
due process.
And then he gave the same right to the Chinese.
And then he declared the earth was flat, right? What next? Clinton is
the father to an alien baby?
Hell, boy- I got the pictures to prove THAT
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| User: "David Goldberg" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too(GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 12:33:20 PM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
--
"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free."
~P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Larry Hewitt" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 01:34:51 PM |
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"David Goldberg" <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43AD9470.26B71DA4@yahoo.com...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Rightards are now saying that obeying the law is merely a "technicality"?
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Yep. An unfortunate system, But again, entirely legal using courts to
authorize warrants.
http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress00/kerr090600.htm
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"If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free."
~P.J. O'Rourke
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too(GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 07:37:38 PM |
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Larry Hewitt wrote:
"David Goldberg" <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:43AD9470.26B71DA4@yahoo.com...
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Rightards are now saying that obeying the law is merely a "technicality"?
Funny how when courts rule the way the RRRwingnuts want technicalities
are good things (Ollie North), when they go against what the RRRwingnuts
want technicalities are bad things (Roe v Wade)
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too(GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 02:28:46 PM |
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David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
The neocon cultist whines about the facts.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
The neocon cultist whines about Clinton.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
24 Dec 2005 09:21:02 PM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43adaf7e$0$58066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
The neocon cultist whines about the facts.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
The neocon cultist whines about Clinton.
Going to be interesting to read the excuses you'll be posting in November.
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| User: "SaPeIsMa" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too (GOP, The Party of Treason) |
25 Dec 2005 08:48:31 AM |
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"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43adaf7e$0$58066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
The neocon cultist whines about the facts.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
The neocon cultist whines about Clinton.
And your whines are of even less value..
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| User: "Mimi Cohen" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too(GOP, The Party of Treason) |
25 Dec 2005 10:35:32 AM |
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SaPeIsMa wrote:
"Ray Fischer" <rfischer@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:43adaf7e$0$58066$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
David Goldberg <david_asbnll@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
The neocon cultist whines about the facts.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
The neocon cultist whines about Clinton.
And your whines are of even less value..
says the neocon whiner.
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too(GOP, The Party of Treason) |
27 Dec 2005 07:51:59 PM |
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David Goldberg wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Gorelick's own testimony proves the point that the Clinton
administration position on foreign intel collection was no different
than Bush's:
<quote>
The Department of Justice has consistently taken the position that the
Fourth Amendment requires all searches to be reasonable, including those
conducted for foreign intelligence purposes in the United States or
against U.S. persons abroad. For the reasons I just mentioned, however,
we believe that the warrant clause of the Fourth Amendment is
inapplicable to such searches. We are satisfied, therefore, that
Attorney General approval of foreign intelligence searches pursuant to
the President’s delegation of authority in Executive order 12333 meets
the requirements of the Constitution.
Pre-FISA case law relating to electronic surveillance in the Fifth,
Ninth, Third, and Fourth Circuits have confirmed this view.
Additionally, when the Supreme Court determined that warrant
requirements applied to electronic surveillance for domestic
intelligence purposes in the Keith case, it specifically declined to
apply this holding to foreign powers or their agents.
</quote>
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| User: "Ray Fischer" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too |
27 Dec 2005 10:51:14 PM |
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Fester <not@home.com> wrote:
David Goldberg wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Gorelick's own testimony proves the point that the Clinton
Why do neocons think that whining about Clinton is supposed to mean
something? Clinton isn't the president. Bush is.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too |
28 Dec 2005 04:34:07 AM |
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Ray Fischer wrote:
Fester <not@home.com> wrote:
David Goldberg wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Gorelick's own testimony proves the point that the Clinton
Why do neocons think that whining about Clinton is supposed to mean
something? Clinton isn't the president. Bush is.
I wasn't whining about anything, dickehad. I simply quoted Gorelick's
testimony.
<quote>
The Department of Justice has consistently taken the position that the
Fourth Amendment requires all searches to be reasonable, including those
conducted for foreign intelligence purposes in the United States or
against U.S. persons abroad. For the reasons I just mentioned, however,
we believe that the warrant clause of the Fourth Amendment is
inapplicable to such searches. We are satisfied, therefore, that
Attorney General approval of foreign intelligence searches pursuant to
the President’s delegation of authority in Executive order 12333 meets
the requirements of the Constitution.
Pre-FISA case law relating to electronic surveillance in the Fifth,
Ninth, Third, and Fourth Circuits have confirmed this view.
Additionally, when the Supreme Court determined that warrant
requirements applied to electronic surveillance for domestic
intelligence purposes in the Keith case, it specifically declined to
apply this holding to foreign powers or their agents.
</quote>
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too |
28 Dec 2005 06:07:38 AM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in message
news:zStsf.3765$Or5.1334@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Fester <not@home.com> wrote:
David Goldberg wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Gorelick's own testimony proves the point that the Clinton
Why do neocons think that whining about Clinton is supposed to mean
something? Clinton isn't the president. Bush is.
I wasn't whining about anything, dickehad. I simply quoted Gorelick's
testimony.
<quote>
The Department of Justice has consistently taken the position that the
Fourth Amendment requires all searches to be reasonable, including those
conducted for foreign intelligence purposes in the United States or
against U.S. persons abroad. For the reasons I just mentioned, however,
we believe that the warrant clause of the Fourth Amendment is
inapplicable to such searches. We are satisfied, therefore, that
Attorney General approval of foreign intelligence searches pursuant to
the President’s delegation of authority in Executive order 12333 meets
the requirements of the Constitution.
Pre-FISA case law relating to electronic surveillance in the Fifth,
Ninth, Third, and Fourth Circuits have confirmed this view.
Additionally, when the Supreme Court determined that warrant
requirements applied to electronic surveillance for domestic
intelligence purposes in the Keith case, it specifically declined to
apply this holding to foreign powers or their agents.
</quote>
And it is WARRANTLESS searches that the RIAA and MPAA use to persecute the
P2Pers. No warrants, no warning, no due process. It's how a grandmother gets
sued for downloading music that she wouldn't listen to if they paid her and
another get sued for having a commercial CD in her hard drive playing music
as she does other things. THe RIAA and MPAA can hire agents to hack your
system as well. And they get away with it thanks to Bill Clinton.
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| User: "ouroboros rex" |
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| Title: Re: NeoCon "osprey" Lie of the Day: Clinton Illegaly Wiretapped too |
28 Dec 2005 10:05:47 AM |
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"Morton Davis" <antikerry@go.com> wrote in message
news:eevsf.661487$_o.582614@attbi_s71...
"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in message
news:zStsf.3765$Or5.1334@tornado.southeast.rr.com...
Ray Fischer wrote:
Fester <not@home.com> wrote:
David Goldberg wrote:
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" wrote:
Surprise! Another NeoCon lie!
http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/20/the-gorelick-myth/
Leftists have been reduced to arguing technicalities.
Anybody remember Clinton's "Carnivore" program?
Gorelick's own testimony proves the point that the Clinton
Why do neocons think that whining about Clinton is supposed to mean
something? Clinton isn't the president. Bush is.
I wasn't whining about anything, dickehad. I simply quoted Gorelick's
testimony.
<quote>
The Department of Justice has consistently taken the position that the
Fourth Amendment requires all searches to be reasonable, including those
conducted for foreign intelligence purposes in the United States or
against U.S. persons abroad. For the reasons I just mentioned, however,
we believe that the warrant clause of the Fourth Amendment is
inapplicable to such searches. We are satisfied, therefore, that
Attorney General approval of foreign intelligence searches pursuant to
the President's delegation of authority in Executive order 12333 meets
the requirements of the Constitution.
Pre-FISA case law relating to electronic surveillance in the Fifth,
Ninth, Third, and Fourth Circuits have confirmed this view.
Additionally, when the Supreme Court determined that warrant
requirements applied to electronic surveillance for domestic
intelligence purposes in the Keith case, it specifically declined to
apply this holding to foreign powers or their agents.
</quote>
And it is WARRANTLESS searches that the RIAA and MPAA use to persecute the
P2Pers. No warrants, no warning, no due process. It's how a grandmother
gets
sued for downloading music that she wouldn't listen to if they paid her
and
another get sued for having a commercial CD in her hard drive playing
music
as she does other things. THe RIAA and MPAA can hire agents to hack your
system as well. And they get away with it thanks to Bill Clinton.
rofl Yeah, we all know republicans are fighting that tooth and nail!
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