Religions > Atheism > New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals"
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28 Jun 2004 04:13:57 PM |
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New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
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"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
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Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
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Merlyn LeRoy
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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28 Jun 2004 10:08:35 PM |
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Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote in
news:40e08a15$0$32607$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com:
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
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"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
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Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
Okay, which one of you EAC'ers pissed him off?
--
Dr. Smartass -- BAAWA Knight of Heckling -- a.a. #1939
"It is interesting to note that the death
penalty for individuals is less controversial
than the mere suggestion that a few corporations
may have forfeited their right to exist. How many
people does a company have to harm before we question
if it ought to exist?"
-- Paul Hawken
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
28 Jun 2004 06:14:34 PM |
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On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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| User: "NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
28 Jun 2004 06:06:07 PM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos he
knows they is always right!!!!
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Jun 2004 07:09:38 PM |
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"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in
news:40e0a3ff$0$25461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos
he knows they is always right!!!!
That's right, Clayton, let it all out. All that repressed leftist desire
for control that makes you denigrate and demonize those who disagree
with you, just spew it forth where we can all see it. Take it for
granted that everybody on "your side" will jump in the puddle of filth
with you, too.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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29 Jun 2004 01:18:41 PM |
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On Mon 28 Jun 2004 07:09:38p, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> kicked
back with a beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a
joint, then fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
"NO.23: Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce"
<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> wrote in
news:40e0a3ff$0$25461$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos
he knows they is always right!!!!
That's right, Clayton, let it all out. All that repressed leftist
desire
for control that makes you denigrate and demonize those who disagree
with you, just spew it forth where we can all see it. Take it for
granted that everybody on "your side" will jump in the puddle of filth
with you, too.
Jesus, you're stupid. No, really, I just noticed. You're practically
dribbling bits of putrid brain matter out your ears.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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28 Jun 2004 07:54:04 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:07 +1000 the ET form known as NO.23:
Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>
sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos he
knows they is always right!!!!
Well he sort of changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists" into
baddies "atheist or not". And that was AFTER asking me if I was taking
"tricks" from Michael Moore.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
28 Jun 2004 07:42:56 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b45914ef3e00e989df7@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:07 +1000 the ET form known as NO.23:
Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>
sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to
look after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday
and Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos
he knows they is always right!!!!
Well he sort of changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists" into
baddies "atheist or not". And that was AFTER asking me if I was taking
"tricks" from Michael Moore.
You mean after *YOU* changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists who
are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime..."
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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30 Jun 2004 10:17:44 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:42:56 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b45914ef3e00e989df7@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:07 +1000 the ET form known as NO.23:
Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean Sauce<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com>
sent a radio signal across the vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.--
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"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to
look after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday
and Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip, cos
he knows they is always right!!!!
Well he sort of changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists" into
baddies "atheist or not". And that was AFTER asking me if I was taking
"tricks" from Michael Moore.
You mean after *YOU* changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists who
are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime..."
Fred the new PM Allawai was employed as an assassin employed by
Saddam's intelligence service, defected and became a paid agent for
the CIA. And you would trust such a character?
What about "criminals and Jews who are targeting the people of Germany
and who are being supported by the remnants of Hindenburg's regime..."
I can not believe that you buy the categorisation of atheists
(infidels, unbelievers, whatever you call those who deny Allah and his
messenger) to the same branch of humanity as criminals. Allawai said
"criminal AND atheists". That's right Fred. He means YOU. Picture a
poster with Allawai's image with a finger pointing out to YOU.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
30 Jun 2004 09:42:04 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4e0a3bec57250989e02@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:42:56 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b45914ef3e00e989df7@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:06:07 +1000 the ET form known as NO.23:
Stirfried Clayton In Black Bean
Sauce<cjfat@SPAMBLOCKphonyemail.com> sent a radio signal across the
vast expanse of deep space -._.--._.-- ._.--._.--._.--._.
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-
2077r.h
tm ...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard
the unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and
to look after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and
Allawi said successively with their right hands on a copy of
the Holy Koran. ...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are
being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his
sons Uday and Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
He'll scream "YES MASSA" and start flailing himself with a whip,
cos he knows they is always right!!!!
Well he sort of changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists"
into baddies "atheist or not". And that was AFTER asking me if I
was taking "tricks" from Michael Moore.
You mean after *YOU* changed the meaning of "criminals and atheists
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by
the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
Fred the new PM Allawai was employed as an assassin employed by
Saddam's intelligence service, defected and became a paid agent for
the CIA. And you would trust such a character?
I don't trust him; I just parse his sentences for you.
You're rapidly approaching the point where I won't trust *YOU* either.
What about "criminals and Jews who are targeting the people of Germany
and who are being supported by the remnants of Hindenburg's regime..."
What about them? Can't you even see that you're distorting what Allawi
said? Or don't you care? Is your other name "david ford", by any chance?
I can not believe that you buy the categorisation of atheists
(infidels, unbelievers, whatever you call those who deny Allah and his
messenger) to the same branch of humanity as criminals.
I don't buy that, you silly person. I merely pointed out that you're
playing word games instead of correctly parsing his sentence: he's
calling names against those "who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
Allawai said "criminal AND atheists".
He said a lot more than that in the single phrase which *you* are
deliberately trying to distort.
That's right Fred. He means YOU. Picture a
poster with Allawai's image with a finger pointing out to YOU.
Since I'm not one of "the atheists and criminals who are targeting the
people of Iraq and who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's
regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to hell" I'm not terribly
worried about it.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Jun 2004 05:34:58 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete sentences?
Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with defending
it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then they deserve to be
struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I can just bet whose
fingers will be part of that fist, too.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
29 Jun 2004 05:53:50 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9516BD0CD3A7Ffstone69@207.69.154.206...
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete sentences?
Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with defending
it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then they deserve to be
struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I can just bet whose
fingers will be part of that fist, too.
Don't you know Fred, that in addition to hunting down all terrorsits,
imprsioning them in humane holding facilities (jail is un-PC I think),
removing a brutal dictator from power along with his bio/chem weapons and
production capabilities, rebuilding the nation's infrastructure, schools,
government services etc and preparing the nation for democratic elections he
was also supposed to transform a citizenry full of the most religiously
intolerant people on the planet (Arabs) into freethinking atheists? Yeah,
he really let us down on this one.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
29 Jun 2004 07:26:52 PM |
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"Fester" <not@home.com> wrote in
news:2qmEc.73119$wH4.4650950@twister.southeast.rr.com:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9516BD0CD3A7Ffstone69@207.69.154.206...
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then
they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I
can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
Don't you know Fred, that in addition to hunting down all terrorsits,
imprsioning them in humane holding facilities (jail is un-PC I think),
removing a brutal dictator from power along with his bio/chem weapons
and production capabilities, rebuilding the nation's infrastructure,
schools, government services etc and preparing the nation for
democratic elections he was also supposed to transform a citizenry
full of the most religiously intolerant people on the planet (Arabs)
into freethinking atheists? Yeah, he really let us down on this one.
But Bush said "Mission Accomplished" before any of that was finished, so
No Fair! Besides, we fucked everything up when some of our people were
foolish enough to take pictures. We're exposed as the most brutal regime
since, well gee, since *never* in that part of the world. Why, our press
and our justice system have been shown up as the most repressive and
biased since, uhh, well, uhh, since France!
--
Fred Stone
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Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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29 Jun 2004 06:18:08 PM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9516BD0CD3A7Ffstone69@207.69.154.206>...
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete sentences?
Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with defending
it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then they deserve to be
struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I can just bet whose
fingers will be part of that fist, too.
Admit it Fred, you are a Christian fundy posing as an atheist, aren't
you. The quote came from a conservative rag, the Washington Time,
quoting a conservative wire service, UPI, so *who do you accuse of
twisting things?
'Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."'
There aren't a whole hell of a lot of way to misinterpet that.
(Although you seemed hell-bent on trying.) This clown wants to blame
atheists for the crimes his muslim brothers are committing. It's that
simple. You can twist it around all day and it still shows another
fucking theist, put into office by our own fucking theist-in-chief,
blaming atheists for crimes committed by theists.
jwk
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29 Jun 2004 07:40:53 PM |
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(jwk) wrote in
news:c6f5ba32.0406291518.5efa5279@posting.google.com:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9516BD0CD3A7Ffstone69@207.69.154.206>...
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then
they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I
can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
Admit it Fred, you are a Christian fundy posing as an atheist, aren't
you. The quote came from a conservative rag, the Washington Time,
quoting a conservative wire service, UPI, so *who do you accuse of
twisting things?
As far as I can tell, it's an accurate quote. At least they managed to
put in the complete sentence, which Debris didn't.
'Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."'
There aren't a whole hell of a lot of way to misinterpet that.
(Although you seemed hell-bent on trying.)
I realize that he's using the word "atheist" or (maybe) "infidel" as a
terrible insult. Arabic is supposedly a *very* good language for
insults.
This clown wants to blame
atheists for the crimes his muslim brothers are committing.
Not quite, he's *calling* those muslims "atheists and criminals" which
is VERY insulting. About on the level of calling Jesse Jackson a "stupid
*****".
It's that
simple. You can twist it around all day and it still shows another
fucking theist, put into office by our own fucking theist-in-chief,
blaming atheists for crimes committed by theists.
Oh, come on, what do you expect from them? They're going to suddenly
become Politically Correct? "Infidel" or "atheist" is about the worst
insult you can hang on a Muslim, next to "Jew-lover".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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01 Jul 2004 10:41:12 AM |
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Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message news:<Xns9517D263C7F1Cfstone69@207.69.154.206>...
jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com (jwk) wrote in
news:c6f5ba32.0406291518.5efa5279@posting.google.com:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9516BD0CD3A7Ffstone69@207.69.154.206>...
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then
they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I
can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
Admit it Fred, you are a Christian fundy posing as an atheist, aren't
you. The quote came from a conservative rag, the Washington Time,
quoting a conservative wire service, UPI, so *who do you accuse of
twisting things?
As far as I can tell, it's an accurate quote. At least they managed to
put in the complete sentence, which Debris didn't.
'Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."'
There aren't a whole hell of a lot of way to misinterpet that.
(Although you seemed hell-bent on trying.)
I realize that he's using the word "atheist" or (maybe) "infidel" as a
terrible insult. Arabic is supposedly a *very* good language for
insults.
This clown wants to blame
atheists for the crimes his muslim brothers are committing.
Not quite, he's *calling* those muslims "atheists and criminals" which
is VERY insulting. About on the level of calling Jesse Jackson a "stupid
*****".
It's that
simple. You can twist it around all day and it still shows another
fucking theist, put into office by our own fucking theist-in-chief,
blaming atheists for crimes committed by theists.
Oh, come on, what do you expect from them? They're going to suddenly
become Politically Correct? "Infidel" or "atheist" is about the worst
insult you can hang on a Muslim, next to "Jew-lover".
No, I don't expect good behavior from them. They point I was (rather
poorly) trying to make was that this statement would be just like a
small town sheriff in America saying "we're going to question every
***** in town until we find out who killed that girl" without any
indication of the race of the perpetrator. This clown is looking to
make atheists his scapegoats. It's obvious.
jwk
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01 Jul 2004 11:02:48 AM |
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(jwk) wrote in
news:c6f5ba32.0407010741.67c8afbb@posting.google.com:
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:<Xns9517D263C7F1Cfstone69@207.69.154.206>...
(jwk) wrote in
news:c6f5ba32.0406291518.5efa5279@posting.google.com:
<...>
It's that
simple. You can twist it around all day and it still shows another
fucking theist, put into office by our own fucking theist-in-chief,
blaming atheists for crimes committed by theists.
Oh, come on, what do you expect from them? They're going to suddenly
become Politically Correct? "Infidel" or "atheist" is about the worst
insult you can hang on a Muslim, next to "Jew-lover".
No, I don't expect good behavior from them. They point I was (rather
poorly) trying to make was that this statement would be just like a
small town sheriff in America saying "we're going to question every
***** in town until we find out who killed that girl" without any
indication of the race of the perpetrator. This clown is looking to
make atheists his scapegoats. It's obvious.
To me it sounds like a Fundie calling his enemies, who keep attacking
him, "atheists and criminals" because he wants to insult them.
Muslims don't think in terms of theists and atheists. Anybody who isn't
a Muslim is an infidel, even Christians, though Christians (and Jews, at
least in theory) get a break because they at least use a similar book.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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30 Jun 2004 07:27:27 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 00:40:53 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
thought hard and said:
Oh, come on, what do you expect from them? They're going to suddenly
become Politically Correct? "Infidel" or "atheist" is about the worst
insult you can hang on a Muslim, next to "Jew-lover".
Or pig fucker.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tviett are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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28 Jun 2004 07:49:41 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:34:58 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete sentences?
Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Better than taking tricks from Karl Rove or Leo Strauss.
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with defending
it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then they deserve to be
struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I can just bet whose
fingers will be part of that fist, too.
So you prefer an Islamic translation. Infidel sounds like a phrase
that would be used by radical Islamists. He will strike (POW PUNCH
BANG CRASH and all other sorts of cartoon bubble words) at those who
would deny Allah and his messenger.
Turn it around for a minute and imagine an Iraqi unbeliever (I will
call him Ali) who listens to a former president declare that atheists
are not real citizens, the incumbent president who favours faith based
charities, would bring in prayer in schools if he could. Would you not
find it strange if Ali declared apologised for the atheist excluding
president by saying he had no trouble in the president taking action
against any unpatriotic Americans be they infidels or not. Would it
not be all the more weird if the US president had been a member of the
Iraqi intelligence community in the way that Allawi has worked as a
CIA agent in the past.
That brings me to the twist you have done on words Fred. You twisted
the words to say "atheists or not". Allawi actually said "criminal AND
atheists" - not atheists who happen to be criminals. He categorised
atheists to the same branch of humanity as criminals. Lets turn this a
little bit more. If Hitler said "criminals and Jews" would you
apologise for Hitler by twisting "criminals and Jews" into "criminals,
Jews or not"? You talk about my tricks you you are not above tricks
yourself.
Fred you are naive in taking at face value the stated good intentions
of your government, especially one headed by a right wing Christian
reconstructionist and one based on the ugly geopolitical philosophy of
Leo Strauss.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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28 Jun 2004 07:41:42 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b4488321baec989df6@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:34:58 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Better than taking tricks from Karl Rove or Leo Strauss.
What tricks? All I'm doing is quoting the man's complete sentences
instead of latching onto a single word.
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then
they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I
can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
So you prefer an Islamic translation. Infidel sounds like a phrase
that would be used by radical Islamists. He will strike (POW PUNCH
BANG CRASH and all other sorts of cartoon bubble words) at those who
would deny Allah and his messenger.
And you still insist on taking a single word out of context.
"the atheists and criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who
are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
That is not a list of separate groups of people that he's going to
"strike with an iron fist".
I gotta admit, I like the flamboyant way they talk. Arabic is supposed
to be such a great language for curses. :-)
Turn it around for a minute and imagine an Iraqi unbeliever (I will
call him Ali) who listens to a former president declare that atheists
are not real citizens, the incumbent president who favours faith based
charities, would bring in prayer in schools if he could. Would you not
find it strange if Ali declared apologised for the atheist excluding
president by saying he had no trouble in the president taking action
against any unpatriotic Americans be they infidels or not. Would it
not be all the more weird if the US president had been a member of the
Iraqi intelligence community in the way that Allawi has worked as a
CIA agent in the past.
That brings me to the twist you have done on words Fred. You twisted
the words to say "atheists or not". Allawi actually said "criminal AND
atheists"
"...who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
- not atheists who happen to be criminals.
And you're *still* taking him out of context!
He categorised
atheists to the same branch of humanity as criminals.
Hogwash. He called the ones "who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." atheists
[infidels] and criminals too.
Yes, I know, "atheist" is used by a lot of religers as an insult. What a
surprise! Gosh, how profound!
Lets turn this a little bit more.
Spin it all you want, it's still spin.
If Hitler said "criminals and Jews" would you
apologise for Hitler by twisting "criminals and Jews" into "criminals,
Jews or not"? You talk about my tricks you you are not above tricks
yourself.
Now you bring Hitler into it. Neither Bush nor Allawi are Hitler, no
matter HOW paranoid YOU are.
Fred you are naive in taking at face value the stated good intentions
of your government, especially one headed by a right wing Christian
reconstructionist and one based on the ugly geopolitical philosophy of
Leo Strauss.
Gee, I'm sorry that I'm not as paranoid as you are. I'm only a major
depressive with anxiety disorders and ADD.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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30 Jun 2004 10:32:16 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:41:42 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b4488321baec989df6@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:34:58 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the
unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look
after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said
successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and
Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Better than taking tricks from Karl Rove or Leo Strauss.
What tricks? All I'm doing is quoting the man's complete sentences
instead of latching onto a single word.
And missed the point. "Criminals AND atheists".
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." then
they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not. And I
can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
So you prefer an Islamic translation. Infidel sounds like a phrase
that would be used by radical Islamists. He will strike (POW PUNCH
BANG CRASH and all other sorts of cartoon bubble words) at those who
would deny Allah and his messenger.
And you still insist on taking a single word out of context.
"the atheists and criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who
are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
No matter how much you want it to say "Criminals atheists or not" he
did NOT say that.
That is not a list of separate groups of people that he's going to
"strike with an iron fist".
I gotta admit, I like the flamboyant way they talk. Arabic is supposed
to be such a great language for curses. :-)
Turn it around for a minute and imagine an Iraqi unbeliever (I will
call him Ali) who listens to a former president declare that atheists
are not real citizens, the incumbent president who favours faith based
charities, would bring in prayer in schools if he could. Would you not
find it strange if Ali declared apologised for the atheist excluding
president by saying he had no trouble in the president taking action
against any unpatriotic Americans be they infidels or not. Would it
not be all the more weird if the US president had been a member of the
Iraqi intelligence community in the way that Allawi has worked as a
CIA agent in the past.
That brings me to the twist you have done on words Fred. You twisted
the words to say "atheists or not". Allawi actually said "criminal AND
atheists"
"...who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
Did he say anything about believers who are "...who are targeting the
people of Iraq and who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's
regime..." or doctors "...who are targeting the people of Iraq and who
are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." or brick
layers "...who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." or teachers "...who
are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime..."? No. He singled out "atheists"
(infidels, non believers) as a group. Why Fred?
- not atheists who happen to be criminals.
And you're *still* taking him out of context!
He categorised
atheists to the same branch of humanity as criminals.
Hogwash. He called the ones "who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." atheists
[infidels] and criminals too.
Yes, I know, "atheist" is used by a lot of religers as an insult. What a
surprise! Gosh, how profound!
Read it again. He said "criminals AND atheists". He means those who
would deny Allah and his messenger.
Lets turn this a little bit more.
Spin it all you want, it's still spin.
If Hitler said "criminals and Jews" would you
apologise for Hitler by twisting "criminals and Jews" into "criminals,
Jews or not"? You talk about my tricks you you are not above tricks
yourself.
Now you bring Hitler into it. Neither Bush nor Allawi are Hitler, no
matter HOW paranoid YOU are.
Depends on how you classify a man who brings in the Patriot Act, has
extrajudicial military tribunals and indefinite detention for
suspects, and throws away the constitution. But Allawi was a hit man
employed by Iraqi intelligence services and he was paid by the CIA. He
does have blood on his hands.
Fred you are naive in taking at face value the stated good intentions
of your government, especially one headed by a right wing Christian
reconstructionist and one based on the ugly geopolitical philosophy of
Leo Strauss.
Gee, I'm sorry that I'm not as paranoid as you are. I'm only a major
depressive with anxiety disorders and ADD.
Nonetheless Leo Strauss' thinking figures highly in the administration
and cabinet. The PNAC is the cult devoted to his worship and the PNAC
has a strangle hold on the Bush administration.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
30 Jun 2004 10:00:51 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4e0da428b86f40989e03@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 00:41:42 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b4488321baec989df6@news.optusnet.com.au:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:34:58 GMT the ET form known as Fred
Stone<fstone69@earthling.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1b4b2e3920ecb761989df1@news.optusnet.com.au:
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT the ET form known as Brian
Westley<westley@visi.com> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-
2077r.ht
m ...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard
the unity, independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and
to look after the interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi
said successively with their right hands on a copy of the Holy
Koran. ...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and
criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are
being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons
Uday and Qusay who went to hell."
Let's see Fred Stone defend the Bush appointed unelected Iraqi
government as it strikes at atheists.
Why don't the both of you lying spinheads quote his complete
sentences? Taking tricks from Michael Moore again?
Better than taking tricks from Karl Rove or Leo Strauss.
What tricks? All I'm doing is quoting the man's complete sentences
instead of latching onto a single word.
And missed the point. "Criminals AND atheists".
And you missed the whole rest of the phrase.
Besides the likely fact that the word is a Christian translator's
version of "infidels", I haven't got any trouble at all with
defending it. The people who "are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
then they deserve to be struck with an iron fist, atheists or not.
And I can just bet whose fingers will be part of that fist, too.
So you prefer an Islamic translation. Infidel sounds like a phrase
that would be used by radical Islamists. He will strike (POW PUNCH
BANG CRASH and all other sorts of cartoon bubble words) at those
who would deny Allah and his messenger.
And you still insist on taking a single word out of context.
"the atheists and criminals who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
No matter how much you want it to say "Criminals atheists or not" he
did NOT say that.
Read the above phrase again, that's *exactly* what your cite has him
saying.
That is not a list of separate groups of people that he's going to
"strike with an iron fist".
I gotta admit, I like the flamboyant way they talk. Arabic is
supposed to be such a great language for curses. :-)
Turn it around for a minute and imagine an Iraqi unbeliever (I will
call him Ali) who listens to a former president declare that
atheists are not real citizens, the incumbent president who favours
faith based charities, would bring in prayer in schools if he
could. Would you not find it strange if Ali declared apologised for
the atheist excluding president by saying he had no trouble in the
president taking action against any unpatriotic Americans be they
infidels or not. Would it not be all the more weird if the US
president had been a member of the Iraqi intelligence community in
the way that Allawi has worked as a CIA agent in the past.
That brings me to the twist you have done on words Fred. You
twisted the words to say "atheists or not". Allawi actually said
"criminal AND atheists"
"...who are targeting the people of Iraq and
who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..."
Did he say anything about believers who are "...who are targeting the
people of Iraq and who are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's
regime..." or doctors "...who are targeting the people of Iraq and who
are being supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." or brick
layers "...who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being
supported by the remnants of Saddam's regime..." or teachers "...who
are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime..."? No. He singled out "atheists"
(infidels, non believers) as a group. Why Fred?
Because it's especially insulting to a Muslim to be called an atheist.
<snip the sad sight of Meteorite Debris twisting and turning>
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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29 Jun 2004 08:50:25 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:19:41 +0930, Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com>
thought hard and said:
So you prefer an Islamic translation. Infidel sounds like a phrase
that would be used by radical Islamists. He will strike (POW PUNCH
BANG CRASH and all other sorts of cartoon bubble words) at those who
would deny Allah and his messenger.
Much like those civilian-killing terrorists.
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tviett are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Mark Richardson" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
28 Jun 2004 08:46:17 PM |
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On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote:
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
...
Makes sense - the previous Govt of Iraq was secular - Saddam and his
guys were obviously a bunch of atheists.
That's how fundys (in the middle east and the USA) think.
The USA has removed a secular govt. from the middle east - a chief
goal of Al-Qaeda.
I wonder if the current regime in the USA is planning on helping Al
Qaeda further?
They are certainly doing much to encourage the growth of terrorism.
The more the incompetent fools do, the less safe I feel.
Mark.
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Mark Richardson mDOTrichardsonATutasDOTeduDOTau
Member of S.M.A.S.H.
(Sarcastic Middle aged Atheists with a Sense of Humour)
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
29 Jun 2004 06:11:14 PM |
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Mark Richardson <mark.richardson@die.spammers.die> wrote in message news:<0th1e0l8q80ojsqe2miftnv19rr0adnvpt@4ax.com>...
On 28 Jun 2004 21:13:57 GMT, Brian Westley <westley@visi.com> wrote:
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
...
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
...
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
...
Makes sense - the previous Govt of Iraq was secular - Saddam and his
guys were obviously a bunch of atheists.
That's how fundys (in the middle east and the USA) think.
The USA has removed a secular govt. from the middle east - a chief
goal of Al-Qaeda.
I wonder if the current regime in the USA is planning on helping Al
Qaeda further?
Reagan already made Bin Laden the leader he is today (with training,
money and weapons). Isn't that enough?
jwk
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
28 Jun 2004 11:32:49 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach Brian Westley:
Bush hails new Iraq
He must be very proud, the twit.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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It's my funeral and I'll fry if I want to...
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| User: "Fear gan dia" |
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| Title: Re: New Iraqi gov't promises to strike at "atheists and criminals" |
30 Jun 2004 04:35:10 PM |
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Verily verily I say unto you, it is written by Brian Westley
in <40e08a15$0$32607$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>:
Bush hails new Iraq
http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040628-121314-2077r.htm
....
"I swear in the name of God Almighty to assume my official
responsibilities with honesty and dedication and to safeguard the unity,
independence, and territorial integrity of Iraq and to look after the
interests of its people," al-Yawer and Allawi said successively with
their right hands on a copy of the Holy Koran.
....
Allawi vowed to strike with an iron fist at "the atheists and criminals
who are targeting the people of Iraq and who are being supported by the
remnants of Saddam's regime and his sons Uday and Qusay who went to
hell."
What, is George Bush Senior his speechwriter?
--
The Very Irrev. Fear gan dia # http://goddamliberal.port5.com
"It was as if Usama bin Laden, hidden in some high mountain
redoubt, were engaging in long-range mind control of George
Bush, chanting 'invade Iraq, you must invade Iraq.'"
- Richard Clarke, _Against All Enemies_
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