Religions > Atheism > New Orleans Proves American Government isn't worth a pimple on an Elephant's *****
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02 Sep 2005 02:30:14 AM |
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New Orleans Proves American Government isn't worth a pimple on an Elephant's ***** |
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city. The American government is
a fucking joke. Instead of paying the welfare for all the unnecessary
soldiers and cops, the US government should have built better levies to
prevent New Orleans from getting flooded in the first place. But that
would mean the American government would have to be effective, wouldn't
it? What would America be if it wasn't for its shitty "government"?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
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| User: "cas" |
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02 Sep 2005 12:59:50 PM |
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Could it be any more clear that Bush and those who prop him up don't
give a damn about human life?
Here it is days after the disaster and still there is no help
getting to the stranded survivors? Every day I wake up expecting news
of at least some small improvement in conditions and every morning I
have been shocked and outraged to see that there has been no response.
Except for one. Private citizens using their personal boats to do what
they can to get stranded survivors to a central location. As usual, it
is the average person who stepped up and did the work that government
should have been responsible for orchestrating.
Now that large numbers of survivors are in central locations where
the hell is the help? How long does it take to put food on a truck and
drive it to where it is needed? HOURS, NOT DAYS!!! I know because I
used to do it. 10 year olds with go-carts and rubber rafts could have
done a better job responding to this than Bush and others who are
responsible.
Perhaps the constant chant of the media and bigger so-called
charities telling everyone to send money, not food and supplies was
entirely unwise and premature. Perhaps it is time that we created some
charities whose purpose it is to actually help people with the money
they recieve.
All the time, money (our tax money), and training we just put into
the first responders and this is the best we could do. What a sad, sad
time.
People in the power structure:
PUT DOWN YOUR COFFEE, GET OFF YOUR *****, AND DO YOUR JOB!!!
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| User: "Liberals Suck" |
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03 Sep 2005 07:00:21 AM |
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<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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03 Sep 2005 07:03:38 AM |
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Liberals Suck wrote:
<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
I voted for the cowardly lying flip-flopping hippy who will kill your
babies and tax everyone else to the point that they'll wish they were
dead... along with half of America.
:-)
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| User: "Kaos" |
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03 Sep 2005 10:37:58 AM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:03:38 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
dared speak in front of ME:
Liberals Suck wrote:
<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
I voted for the cowardly lying flip-flopping hippy who will kill your
babies and tax everyone else to the point that they'll wish they were
dead... along with half of America.
:-)
So you voted once for each name on the ballot?
--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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03 Sep 2005 05:49:34 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 04:37:58 -0600, Kaos <kaos@invalid.xplornet.com>
thought hard and wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 07:03:38 GMT, DanielSan <daniel-san@myrealbox.com>
dared speak in front of ME:
Liberals Suck wrote:
<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
I voted for the cowardly lying flip-flopping hippy who will kill your
babies and tax everyone else to the point that they'll wish they were
dead... along with half of America.
:-)
So you voted once for each name on the ballot?
Nice.
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-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 17 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, Krzysztof Penderecki, and Geirr Tveitt are my Gods.
Head of EAC Denial Department and Madly Insane Scientist.
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| User: "Werebat" |
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03 Sep 2005 01:33:26 PM |
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Liberals Suck wrote:
<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
Don't look at me -- I voted for Badnarik!
- Ron ^*^
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Sep 2005 03:03:45 PM |
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On Sat, 3 Sep 2005 03:00:21 -0400, "Liberals Suck" <gymraven@hotmail.com> wrote:
<conners_3@hotmail.com> wrote
Yup, the American government can afford to send
hundreds of thousands of soldiers abroad to take
over other countries, give billions of national
wealth to the politically connected, and lock up
millions of addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it
can't help American citizens in third world
conditions in a major city.
"Bush." A brush is no better than the artist that holds
is, a violin no better than the musician who plays it.
Our government is no better than the man in charge,
and that man is Bush.
Your gripe is with Bush. So, who did you vote for?
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Bruno" |
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03 Sep 2005 03:31:25 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:03:45 -0500, duke wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
--
"I'd far rather be happy than right any day."
- Slartibartfast
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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03 Sep 2005 03:42:55 PM |
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Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in news:0egjh1h7oo8blf272uta4g6djsegn9ar7p@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:03:45 -0500, duke wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
Oh, come on, you saw the tree stumps the Democrats put up against him.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
I think if we had a three-word message right now it’d be, ‘We can do
better.’
- Howard Dean
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| User: "nJb" |
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05 Sep 2005 02:23:15 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in news:0egjh1h7oo8blf272uta4g6djsegn9ar7p@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:03:45 -0500, duke wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
Oh, come on, you saw the tree stumps the Democrats put up against him.
Damn good point, but I'll take a tree stump or even a random name from
the Buffalo phone book.
--
Jack
Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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| User: "Bruno" |
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03 Sep 2005 05:19:42 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 15:42:55 GMT, Fred Stone wrote:
Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote in news:0egjh1h7oo8blf272uta4g6djsegn9ar7p@
4ax.com:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 10:03:45 -0500, duke wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
Oh, come on, you saw the tree stumps the Democrats put up against him.
Plenty of third parties to choose from:
http://www.politics1.com/parties.htm.
Hehe.
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| User: "duke" |
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03 Sep 2005 06:45:20 PM |
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On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:25 -0400, Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
He's a great president, MY President.
duke
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "nJb" |
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05 Sep 2005 02:24:40 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:25 -0400, Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
He's a great president, MY President.
duke
*****
"The ***** is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
It's going to be fun Googleing this post someday.
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Jack
Plonked by Native American
bobo1148atxmissiondotcom
http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/xmissionbobo/
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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03 Sep 2005 09:26:43 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:31:25 -0400, Bruno <xxxx@xxx.xxx> wrote:
George Bush, and would again in a heartbeat.
But, why?
He's a great president, MY President.
For varying definitions of the word "great." Hitler was "great," too.
great (grayt) adj. 5. remarkaable or out of the ordinary degree or
magnitude or effect: "a great crisis."
"He Who Must Not Be Named did great things. Terrible things... but
great." --Ollivander
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| User: "Olrik" |
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02 Sep 2005 04:27:50 AM |
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wrote:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city. The American government is
a fucking joke. Instead of paying the welfare for all the unnecessary
soldiers and cops, the US government should have built better levies to
prevent New Orleans from getting flooded in the first place. But that
would mean the American government would have to be effective, wouldn't
it? What would America be if it wasn't for its shitty "government"?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
It looks like there's no one in control, sadly.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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02 Sep 2005 07:19:41 PM |
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"Olrik" <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in message
news:bxQRe.3365$z07.279527@wagner.videotron.net...
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city. The American government is
a fucking joke. Instead of paying the welfare for all the unnecessary
soldiers and cops, the US government should have built better levies to
prevent New Orleans from getting flooded in the first place. But that
would mean the American government would have to be effective, wouldn't
it? What would America be if it wasn't for its shitty "government"?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
It looks like there's no one in control, sadly.
Why don't YOU go try to take charge. You might enjoy prison.
-*MORT*-
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| User: "Olrik" |
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03 Sep 2005 04:11:22 AM |
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Morton Davis wrote:
"Olrik" <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in message
news:bxQRe.3365$z07.279527@wagner.videotron.net...
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city. The American government is
a fucking joke. Instead of paying the welfare for all the unnecessary
soldiers and cops, the US government should have built better levies to
prevent New Orleans from getting flooded in the first place. But that
would mean the American government would have to be effective, wouldn't
it? What would America be if it wasn't for its shitty "government"?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
It looks like there's no one in control, sadly.
Why don't YOU go try to take charge. You might enjoy prison.
Frankly, I'd have trouble doing worse.
-*MORT*-
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Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
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03 Sep 2005 03:44:10 PM |
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Olrik wrote:
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
What CNN deliberately failed to tell you is that the buses
aren't getting sent back, they're just getting redirected
to other locations in Houston. Houston's citizens are
breaking their backs taking care of more than their share
of refugees, but CNN is searching desperately for ways
to minimize their public spirit.
Walt Smith
Firleock on DALNet
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| User: "Peter H Proctor" |
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02 Sep 2005 03:07:15 PM |
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:27:50 -0400, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote:
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
The Houston fire marshal ruled they couldn't put more than
abut 11K people in the stadium, designed for about 44K and
essentially fireproof. Clearly, It wasn't so much "fire danger"
as second thoughts arising from all the disorder in New Orleans.
PHP
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| User: "Howard C. Berkowitz" |
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02 Sep 2005 03:54:39 PM |
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In article <l4qgh1l44p7tnm951fpr0e4gqr1kbldj3i@4ax.com>, Peter H
Proctor <drp@drproctor.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:27:50 -0400, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote:
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
The Houston fire marshal ruled they couldn't put more than
abut 11K people in the stadium, designed for about 44K and
essentially fireproof. Clearly, It wasn't so much "fire danger"
as second thoughts arising from all the disorder in New Orleans.
PHP
Having had with one of the medical directors in Houston, it's not quite
that simple. 44K is a figure that works for sporting events, where the
crowd will be there for -- what, 6 hours? Air conditioning, toilets,
etc., are engineered for that peak load, but not 24/7.
Also, the 44K refers to people in seats. Assume the seats could be
removed immediately. A person lying down to sleep in the seating area --
steep and narrow as the levels may be -- will be 3 to 4 times longer
than a non-luxury stadium seat.
Especially if they haven't been able to remove the seats, and are
principally using the main field and the VIP areas, dividing the arena
loading by 4 makes a fair bit of engineering sense. Think of space for
horizontal, not sitting, bodies.
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| User: "Joe Zawadowski" |
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02 Sep 2005 05:52:49 PM |
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In article <hcb-7113CA.11543902092005@newsgroups.comcast.net>, "Howard C.
Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com> wrote:
In article <l4qgh1l44p7tnm951fpr0e4gqr1kbldj3i@4ax.com>, Peter H
Proctor <drp@drproctor.com> wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:27:50 -0400, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote:
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
The Houston fire marshal ruled they couldn't put more than
abut 11K people in the stadium, designed for about 44K and
essentially fireproof. Clearly, It wasn't so much "fire danger"
as second thoughts arising from all the disorder in New Orleans.
PHP
Having had with one of the medical directors in Houston, it's not quite
that simple. 44K is a figure that works for sporting events, where the
crowd will be there for -- what, 6 hours? Air conditioning, toilets,
etc., are engineered for that peak load, but not 24/7.
Also, the 44K refers to people in seats. Assume the seats could be
removed immediately. A person lying down to sleep in the seating area --
steep and narrow as the levels may be -- will be 3 to 4 times longer
than a non-luxury stadium seat.
Especially if they haven't been able to remove the seats, and are
principally using the main field and the VIP areas, dividing the arena
loading by 4 makes a fair bit of engineering sense. Think of space for
horizontal, not sitting, bodies.
Good observations.
When they started loading people into the Superdome, was I the only one
in the world that said to himself,
"That is nuts, the toilets will be overflowing in 24 hours."
Maybe it was the best 'they' could do at the time, but that, in itself,
speaks volumes about poor planning for a disaster that was long anticipated.
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"Freedom begins between the ears."
Edward Abbey
"Which ever way your pleasure tends,
if you plant ice, you're gonna harvest wind"
Hunter
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| User: "Rick Pikul" |
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05 Sep 2005 05:32:47 AM |
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On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 10:07:15 -0500, Peter H Proctor wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:27:50 -0400, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote:
It is rather embarassing for the USA. I just learned on CNN that the
Houston's Astrodome evacuation operation is at a standstill because they
over-estimated the stadium capacity.
The Houston fire marshal ruled they couldn't put more than
abut 11K people in the stadium, designed for about 44K and
essentially fireproof. Clearly, It wasn't so much "fire danger"
as second thoughts arising from all the disorder in New Orleans.
11k people living there v/s 44k watching a baseball game. As for the
fire marshal, he gets to cover a lot of the various 'crowd safety' issues
as part of his responsibility for fire evacuation.
--
Phoenix
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| User: "" |
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02 Sep 2005 04:32:23 AM |
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Get real. Are you saying Washington "owes" every failed black ghetto
city in America a federal takeover? (And have you thought about what
the Sharptons and Jacksons would be yelling if Washington did that?)
Browse this gun show for FREE! Shop the
http://stores.ebay.com/INTERNET-GUN-SHOW
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| User: "Chris Hayes" |
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02 Sep 2005 10:15:59 PM |
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wrote:
Get real. Are you saying Washington "owes" every failed black ghetto
city in America a federal takeover? (And have you thought about what
the Sharptons and Jacksons would be yelling if Washington did that?)
Go ***** yourself Klu Klux KKKlucker.
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| User: "R. Scott Dalton" |
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02 Sep 2005 05:28:00 AM |
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Not to rain on everyone's parade here, but what, exactly, does this have to
do with rec.games.frp.dnd?
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| User: "" |
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02 Sep 2005 02:17:12 PM |
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Someone's evidently crossposted.
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| User: "Kaos" |
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02 Sep 2005 09:13:12 PM |
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On 1 Sep 2005 19:30:14 -0700, dared speak in
front of ME:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city.
I do hope you plan to back up your usage of a great tragedy to make a
political point by getting off your ***** and supporting at least the
NGOs who are out there trying to do something.
Otherwise, you're just another vulture picking at the corpses.
(But since you're just another fuckwit crossposting troll, I suppose
you don't even rank as high as the vultures...)
--
The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out
the conservative adopts them.
Samuel Clemens, "Notebook," 1935
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| User: "Chris Hayes" |
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| Title: Re: New Orleans Proves American Government isn't worth a pimple on an Elephant's ***** |
03 Sep 2005 01:12:09 AM |
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Kaos wrote:
On 1 Sep 2005 19:30:14 -0700, dared speak in
front of ME:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city.
I do hope you plan to back up your usage of a great tragedy to make a
political point by getting off your ***** and supporting at least the
NGOs who are out there trying to do something.
I take it you've had your head up your ***** lately, eh? This was
predicted to happen for years but the Fed simply didn't want to pay the
money to prevent/plan to help the people should it occur. Most
Americans find the lame actions of the American government's response
unnacceptable, which explains why Bush has been doing spin control the
last couple days.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: New Orleans Proves American Government isn't worth a pimple on an Elephant's ***** |
08 Sep 2005 01:21:21 AM |
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On 1 Sep 2005 19:30:14 -0700, wrote:
Yup, the American government can afford to send hundreds of thousands
of soldiers abroad to take over other countries, give billions of
national wealth to the politically connected, and lock up millions of
addicts in prisons for 30K a year, but it can't help American citizens
in third world conditions in a major city. The American government is
a fucking joke. Instead of paying the welfare for all the unnecessary
soldiers and cops, the US government should have built better levies to
prevent New Orleans from getting flooded in the first place. But that
would mean the American government would have to be effective, wouldn't
it? What would America be if it wasn't for its shitty "government"?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
Relief workers confront 'urban warfare'
Violence disrupts evacuation, rescue efforts in New Orleans
NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Violence disrupted relief efforts
Thursday in New Orleans as authorities rescued desperate residents
still trapped in the flooded city and tried to evacuate thousands of
others living among corpses and human waste.
Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown said his
agency was attempting to work "under conditions of urban warfare."
Police snipers were stationed on the roof of their precinct, trying to
protect it from armed miscreants roaming seemingly at will.
Officers warned a CNN crew to stay off the streets because of
escalating danger, and cautioned others about attempted shootings and
rapes by groups of young men.
"This is a desperate SOS," New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said in a
statement Thursday afternoon, with thousands of people stranded at the
city's convention center with no food, water or electricity -- and
fading hope. (See video on the desperate conditions -- 4:36 )
Residents expressed growing frustration with the disorder evident on
the streets, raising questions about the coordination and timeliness
of relief efforts.
"Why is no one in charge?" asked one frustrated evacuee at the
convention center. "I find it hard to believe."
Government officials insisted they were putting forth their best
efforts and pleaded for patience, saying further help was on the way.
One displaced resident at the Louisiana Superdome issued a warning to
authorities who may be headed to the stadium, where up to 30,000
people sought refuge after Monday's Hurricane Katrina and now await
evacuation to Texas by bus.
"Please don't send the National Guard," Raymond Cooper told CNN by
telephone. "Send someone with a bullhorn outside the place that can
talk to these people first."
He described scenes of lawlessness and desperation, with people simply
dragging corpses into corners.
"They have quite a few people running around here with guns," he said.
"You got these young teenage boys running around up here raping these
girls."
Elsewhere, groups of armed men wandered the streets, buildings
smoldered and people picked through stores for what they could find.
Charity Hospital, one of several facilities attempting to evacuate
patients, was forced to halt the effort after coming under sniper
fire. (Full story)
Recovery efforts also continued Thursday in Mississippi, where Katrina
smashed entire neighborhoods and killed at least 185 people.
"We got hit by the worst natural disaster in the history of the United
States," Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour told CNN Thursday.
'Thousands' dead
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco gave the grim news that "thousands" of
people died in the hurricane and its aftermath in New Orleans and
surrounding parishes, though she said no official count had been
compiled.
Brown said those who ignored the city's mandatory evacuation order
bore some responsibility.
"I think the death toll may go into the thousands and, unfortunately,
that's going to be attributable a lot to people who did not heed the
advance warnings," he told CNN. (Full story)
Stranded people remained in buildings, on roofs, in the backs of
trucks or gathered in large groups on higher ground, with little
knowledge of when -- or if -- help would come.
Despite the deteriorating conditions in the city, hurricane survivors
from neighboring Plaquemines Parish have started streaming into the
city, according to Nagin.
"We are overwhelmed and out of resources, but we welcome them with
open arms and will figure this out together," the mayor said in a
written statement.
Police officers told CNN that some of their fellow officers had simply
stopped showing up for duty, cutting manpower by 20 percent or more in
some precincts.
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday that 4,200
National Guard troops trained as military police will be deployed in
New Orleans over the next three days, which he said would quadruple
the law enforcement presence in the city.
Pentagon officials said the first contingent of 100 military police
officers would arrive at Louis Armstrong International Airport at 10
p.m. (11 p.m. ET) -- combat-ready for immediate deployment in New
Orleans.
'Unsanitary and unsafe'
Blanco said Thursday she has requested the mobilization of 40,000
National Guard troops to restore order and assist in relief efforts.
A humanitarian catastrophe unfolded at the convention center, where
thousands of increasingly frustrated people waited for help amid dead
bodies, feces and garbage.
Numerous bodies could be seen, both inside and outside the facility,
and one man died of a seizure while a CNN crew was at the scene.
A National Guard helicopter dropped food and water Thursday afternoon,
although the amount was far short of enough to meet the needs of the
throngs that had gathered.
Nagin advised those gathered at the center to march over the Crescent
City Connection bridge to the west bank of the Mississippi River to
find relief in neighboring Jefferson Parish.
"The convention center is unsanitary and unsafe, and we are running
out of supplies," said Nagin, adding that officials did not expect to
have enough buses for evacuations.
Brown told CNN Thursday evening that federal officials only found out
about the convention center crisis earlier in the day, and that he had
since directed that "all available resources" be made available there.
Boat rescue teams looking for Katrina survivors told CNN they had been
ordered to stand down Thursday by FEMA officials concerned about
security.
However, FEMA issued a statement from Washington denying it had
suspended operations, though the agency conceded there had been
"isolated incidents where security has become an issue."
Homeland Security Secretary MichaelChertoff said that the Coast Guard
has rescued about 3,000 people from flooded areas in New Orleans and
the surrounding parishes.
At the city's airport, a field hospital set up by FEMA was
"overwhelmed" with patients, a medical team commander said.
Equipment normally used to move luggage was instead ferrying patients
to a treatment center and to planes and buses for evacuation.
"I do not have the words in my vocabulary to describe what is
happening here," said Ozro Henderson. "'Catastrophe' and 'disaster'
don't explain it."
Outside the Superdome, throngs of people waiting for a bus ride to
Texas completely covered an outside plaza, where they waited in the
heat and rain.
Buses ferried displaced residents to Houston's Astrodome, which will
serve as a shelter until FEMA can come up with more permanent housing.
"We're finding more and more people coming out of the woodwork," Brown
said. "They're appearing in places we didn't know they existed."
Blanco said more school buses would be brought in from across
Louisiana to increase the pace of the evacuation.
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said it expected to complete the
sealing off of the 17th Street Canal, where a flood-control levee
breached. (Recovery efforts)
Other developments
* In Washington, the Senate convened in special session Thursday
night and approved a $10.5 billion disaster relief request from the
Bush administration. The House is expected to do the same when it
takes up the matter Friday. (Full story)
* Gasoline prices spiked as high as $5 a gallon in some areas
Thursday as consumers fearing a gas shortage raced to the pumps. The
runup in prices prompted Bush to warn against gouging and to encourage
Americans to conserve. (Full story)
CNN's Chris Lawrence and Ed Lavandera contributed to this report.
Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/09/01/katrina.impact/index.html
© 2005 Cable News Network
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Curly Surmudgeon" |
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| Title: Re: New Orleans Proves American Government isn't worth a pimple on an Elephant's ***** |
08 Sep 2005 03:30:34 AM |
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:21:21 -0700, stoney wrote:
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For informational purposes, what is the monetary value of an elephant
*****-pimple?
-- Regards, Curly
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