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"Mark Nutter" |
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13 Jun 2004 10:27:32 AM |
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New this week on www.alethian.org |
The following articles have been posted on the alethian.org web site.
"Why Alethian?"
http://www.alethian.org/homilies/why_alethian.shtml
"What you probably don't know about the 'Ten Commandments' (but
should)."
http://www.alethian.org/resources/ten_c.shtml
"Warning signs of belief in a mythical god."
http://www.alethian.org/resources/warnings.shtml
Readers of alt.atheism may recognize some of the material in the last
two articles. I'm not reposting the above-listed articles here due to
length, but discussion is welcome, either in talk.religion.misc or via
the email contact addresses listed on the web site.
Thank you.
m
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: New this week on www.alethian.org |
13 Jun 2004 10:45:12 AM |
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(Mark Nutter) wrote in alt.atheism
The following articles have been posted on the alethian.org web site.
"Why Alethian?"
http://www.alethian.org/homilies/why_alethian.shtml
From the above:
"When I tell people about my Alethian faith, one of the first
questions I am usually asked is, "Why do you want a new religion? Why
not just stick with an established religion like Unitarianism, or
Spiritual Humanism, or even something like the Universal Church of
Man?" The idea of worshipping Alethea, reality itself, strikes people
as something new, iconoclastic, and maybe even a bit secularistic, and
so they categorize it with other religious ideas that strike them the
same way."
Hmm.. If you tweak and twist Alethea a bit, you can come up with
"all there is," eh?
Why Alethian instead of Elethian?
Are not Allah and El the same god? One is more feminine
or masculine than the other?
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Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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22 Jun 2004 01:32:05 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<550pc0dfooolen9d6qluqbi48scg691cqd@4ax.com>...
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Why Alethian instead of Elethian?
Are not Allah and El the same god? One is more feminine
or masculine than the other?
"Alethia" is Greek for "truth"; it's spelled with an "A" [Greek letter
alpha] and has nothing to do with either Allah or El.
Brenda "Yes, I speak Greek" Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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22 Jun 2004 01:32:16 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<550pc0dfooolen9d6qluqbi48scg691cqd@4ax.com>...
<Snip>
Why Alethian instead of Elethian?
Are not Allah and El the same god? One is more feminine
or masculine than the other?
"Alethia" is Greek for "truth"; it's spelled with an "A" [Greek letter
alpha] and has nothing to do with either Allah or El.
Brenda "Yes, I speak Greek" Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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| Title: Re: New this week on www.alethian.org |
22 Jun 2004 06:30:23 PM |
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(Brenda Nelson) wrote in message news:<311596a5.0406221032.863ce3e@posting.google.com>...
Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<550pc0dfooolen9d6qluqbi48scg691cqd@4ax.com>...
<Snip>
Why Alethian instead of Elethian?
Are not Allah and El the same god? One is more feminine
or masculine than the other?
"Alethia" is Greek for "truth"; it's spelled with an "A" [Greek letter
alpha] and has nothing to do with either Allah or El.
Brenda "Yes, I speak Greek" Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
Oh, jebus h. kryst on a chocolate popsickle stick. I didn't mean to
post this 3 times. <Grovelling abjectly> Don't hurt me. Please.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and - oh, never mind.
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| User: "Brenda Nelson" |
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22 Jun 2004 01:32:19 PM |
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Elroy Willis <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message news:<550pc0dfooolen9d6qluqbi48scg691cqd@4ax.com>...
<Snip>
Why Alethian instead of Elethian?
Are not Allah and El the same god? One is more feminine
or masculine than the other?
"Alethia" is Greek for "truth"; it's spelled with an "A" [Greek letter
alpha] and has nothing to do with either Allah or El.
Brenda "Yes, I speak Greek" Nelson, A.A.#34
Chief Wrangler and Ramrod Emeritus
(and Professor of Feline Thermometrics)
EAC Equine Transportation Command/Carne Seca Division
in the Prefecture of Baja, Arizona
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| User: "Kermit" |
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22 Jun 2004 02:07:52 PM |
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(Mark Nutter) wrote in message news:<fddfde37.0406130727.18f19ba@posting.google.com>...
The following articles have been posted on the alethian.org web site.
"Why Alethian?"
http://www.alethian.org/homilies/why_alethian.shtml
"What you probably don't know about the 'Ten Commandments' (but
should)."
http://www.alethian.org/resources/ten_c.shtml
"Warning signs of belief in a mythical god."
http://www.alethian.org/resources/warnings.shtml
In this third link, I take exception to number two:
"Your God speaks to you in a voice only you can hear, even if other
people are within easy hearing distance of you."
If there were a divine entity, a telepathic "Q"-type alien, a secret
part of the psyche which can be activated via shamanistic practices,
an inborn artistic talent, or anything else reasonably called "God",
then it would be trivial for it to communicate with the person without
others hearing. I talk to myself all the time.
Heck, I've talked to my wife and lover of 27 years with others in the
room with us and they never heard a word - or at least they never
understood what we were saying. Of course I agree that this is also
not very good evdience *for the existence of anything external to the
supplicant's brain. Some mystics would agree with that.
Everything else is spot on.
Readers of alt.atheism may recognize some of the material in the last
two articles. I'm not reposting the above-listed articles here due to
length, but discussion is welcome, either in talk.religion.misc or via
the email contact addresses listed on the web site.
Thank you.
m
But you'll pardon me if I pass on saying that I worship anything.
Kermit
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| User: "Mark Nutter" |
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| Title: Re: New this week on www.alethian.org |
22 Jun 2004 03:46:45 PM |
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In article <2b38d8c5.0406221107.66051269@posting.google.com>,
(Kermit) wrote:
manutter51@yahoo.com (Mark Nutter) wrote in message
news:<fddfde37.0406130727.18f19ba@posting.google.com>...
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"Warning signs of belief in a mythical god."
http://www.alethian.org/resources/warnings.shtml
...I take exception to number two:
"Your God speaks to you in a voice only you can hear, even if other
people are within easy hearing distance of you."
If there were a divine entity, a telepathic "Q"-type alien, a secret
part of the psyche which can be activated via shamanistic practices,
an inborn artistic talent, or anything else reasonably called "God",
then it would be trivial for it to communicate with the person without
others hearing. I talk to myself all the time.
Granted. I think I may need to amend that one--it should end with
"...and never says anything to you that you couldn't have thought up on
your own." The idea is that it's a warning sign; not a proof in and of
itself, but something that you ought to look into because it shows up so
commonly among those who do believe in mythical gods, and because it is
an expected consequence of believing in a god who can't really speak for
himself.
Everything else is spot on.
Thanks.
But you'll pardon me if I pass on saying that I worship anything.
One of the nice things about the Alethian God is that she neither craves
worship nor resents a lack of worship. I am proposing Alethian worship
solely on the basis of the legitimate value and benefit I believe it
provides to us. But it's a supplement, not a requirement.
Cheers.
Mark Nutter
manutter51@alethian.org
http://www.alethian.org/
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| User: "Carol Lee Smith" |
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| Title: Re: New this week on www.alethian.org |
13 Jun 2004 10:41:47 AM |
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On 13 Jun 2004, Mark Nutter wrote:
The following articles have been posted on the alethian.org web site.
"Why Alethian?"
http://www.alethian.org/homilies/why_alethian.shtml
If all of the sites are as hard to read as the text on the above, folks
are not going to stick with the text until the end.
It is only a suggestion, but I think you should present the information
differently--in such a way that there are more than two to four words on a
line.
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