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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Cold Lazarus"
Date: 17 Aug 2007 08:03:49 PM
Object: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!!
New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada!
Well, not necessarily true. Hinn was raised in Toronto!
Evangelist Hinn lands under a cloud
Benny Hinn readies for crusade and defends lavish healing ministry
August 17, 2007
Stuart Laidlaw
Faith and Ethics reporter
Pastor Benny Hinn, in Toronto this weekend for two days of miracle cures
and old-time gospel, makes no apologies for all the money his far-flung
ministries take in each year.
"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really
expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the Star.
Tonight and tomorrow, Hinn brings his Texas-based Miracle Crusade to the
Air Canada Centre, attracting up to 20,000 to each of his three shows.
The shows are free but, as at all his crusades, donations will be sought
and many buckets will be passed as the audience sings rousing hymns along
with a mass choir amid a light show worthy of a rock concert. While Hinn
acknowledges people come mainly to see and take part in the healing
miracles, that is left to the feverish end - they will first hear him
preach, pray and sing in his trademark white suit.
But Hinn arrives under a cloud after the CBC's The Fifth Estate this week
challenged his claims of miracle cures and described a lavish lifestyle of
fancy cars, a 7,000-square-foot ocean-side mansion and luxury travel to
five-star hotels on a private jet.
In the show, reporter Bob McKeown estimates Benny Hinn Ministries takes in
as much as $250 million a year in donations and proceeds from sales of such
items as autographed bibles.
Hinn, who keeps his finances private, doubts the show will hurt turnout at
the ACC.
"They will never stop people from coming to meetings such as ours."
Followers donate money, he says, to ensure his work, including curing the
sick, continues.
"They believe that God heals and they want to see something like this go
on. They also understand it takes money to rent stadiums."
Hinn's sessions have gained a reputation for sudden miracle cures for
cancer, blindness, diabetes and even AIDS over the past 30 years since his
humble beginnings in a church hall at Bloor and Yonge. People dramatically
fall to the floor proclaiming their health after a touch from Hinn's hand.
Hinn, however, professes to having nothing to do with making anybody
healthy. "The Lord has not called me to heal people," he says. "He heals
the people."
After the prayers, songs and preaching from the charismatic minister, Hinn
tells the crowd he is getting a message from God that people in the
audience are being cured, and he asks them to come to the stage. The Fifth
Estate used hidden cameras to show staff screening audience members coming
forward, ensuring none with obvious physical ailment get near Hinn.
"It's always somebody that has some kind of illness that can't be readily
seen" that makes it to the stage, Justin Peters, a Baptist minister in
Mississippi who studied Hinn, tells the CBC.
Hinn says the cures take place in the audience, not on stage, so no one
still in a wheelchair is allowed on stage. God, he says, has obviously not
cured these people.
"I won't let them up, because they haven't been healed," he says.
The CBC tracked down some of the people claimed to have been cured, only to
find that they were either still sick, never had the condition they were
supposedly cured of, or had died.
Speaking to the Star, Hinn says he is forced to rely on the word of those
coming to his crusades to tell him they are cured.
"It's not my job to claim that they are healed. I have never done that," he
says. "I'm not a doctor."
Hinn defends his use of luxury hotels and a private Gulfstream jet detailed
by the CBC, saying they offer greater efficiency and security.
"People in my position will have threats," he told the Star. "If you ask
for a secure (hotel) floor, you're going to pay more money."
Hinn also criticized the CBC for using hidden cameras and old footage he
says depicts his wife just before she had a nervous breakdown
.

User: "Rick"

Title: Re: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!! 18 Aug 2007 05:34:53 PM
Cold Lazarus wrote in message ...

New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada!

Well, not necessarily true. Hinn was raised in Toronto!

Evangelist Hinn lands under a cloud

Benny Hinn readies for crusade and defends lavish healing ministry
August 17, 2007
Stuart Laidlaw
Faith and Ethics reporter

Pastor Benny Hinn, in Toronto this weekend for two days of miracle cures
and old-time gospel, makes no apologies for all the money his far-flung
ministries take in each year.

"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really
expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the Star.

Gee, Billy Graham managed to reach a lot of people - probably far more than
Hinn - without all the lavish stuff.
- Rick
.
User: "Nick"

Title: Re: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!! 18 Aug 2007 07:53:04 PM
Rick wrote:

Cold Lazarus wrote in message ...

New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada!

Well, not necessarily true. Hinn was raised in Toronto!

Evangelist Hinn lands under a cloud

Benny Hinn readies for crusade and defends lavish healing ministry
August 17, 2007
Stuart Laidlaw
Faith and Ethics reporter

Pastor Benny Hinn, in Toronto this weekend for two days of miracle cures
and old-time gospel, makes no apologies for all the money his far-flung
ministries take in each year.

"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really
expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the Star.


Gee, Billy Graham managed to reach a lot of people - probably far more than
Hinn - without all the lavish stuff.

He did, didn't he?
The fact that people who aren't into God, but like Billy, says a lot about
the guy.
Before he died, I watched him on TV. He was pretty damn good.
A well respected man who's faith was top notch.
And, as said before. Very motovatioal. A speaker par excellence.
.


User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!! 17 Aug 2007 09:12:32 PM
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:03:49 -0400, Cold Lazarus <clazarus@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really
expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the Star.

Jebus seemed to have no trouble doing it. I guess magic isn't what it
used to be.
.
User: "Cold Lazarus"

Title: Re: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!! 17 Aug 2007 09:44:29 PM
Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:03:49 -0400, Cold Lazarus <clazarus@yahoo.com>
wrote:

"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really
expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the Star.


Jebus seemed to have no trouble doing it. I guess magic isn't what it
used to be.


I respected and admired Bill Graham, despite how I'm a Humanist (a positive
word for Atheist). I even saw Graham in London at the Earls Court
Exhibition Centre almost 20 years-ago. I did it out of sheer curiosity
tempered with skepticism. I wasn't religious in those days either.
I rather enjoyed it. He was an amazing motivational speaker to say the
least. And, Graham was never the bull ***** artist that Benny Hinn is or
Jim Baaker and his butt buddies Swaggart, Falwell and more than a few
others were or are today.
I respect religious beliefs if they're moderate and are not imposed (I've
kicked more than a few Jehovah's Witnesses off of my door step... but
living close to Prince Rogers Nelson in Toronto never saw him at mine).
Benny Hinn for three days and 80,000 people at the ACC in Toronto is like a
variant of WrestleMania XXIV to me! Dig it if you like it, but I won't be
there.
People come from all over for Benny!
.

User: "Cold Lazarus"

Title: Re: New US Health Care Innovation Comes To Canada! - Out Demon Spirits!!! 17 Aug 2007 09:25:04 PM
Al Klein wrote:=20

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:03:49 -0400, Cold Lazarus <clazarus@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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"The gospels are free, but the means of delivering the gospels is really=

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expensive," Hinn, who got his start in Toronto 30 years ago, told the St=

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Jebus seemed to have no trouble doing it. I guess magic isn't what it
used to be.
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Tofik Benedictus "Benny" Hinn was born in Tel Aviv, Israel, to a Greek=20
father and an Armenian mother.
He was raised within the Greek Orthodox Church, and attended Georges Vanier=
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Secondary School in Toronto, Canada, where he was known as Teufik Hinn.
He states that his father was the mayor of Jaffa; and that as a child, he=
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was socially isolated and handicapped by a severe stammer, but was=20
nonetheless a first-class student.
These claims, however, have been disputed by some of his critics.
He has written that on December 21, 1973, he traveled by charter bus from=
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Toronto to Pittsburgh to attend a "miracle service" conducted by evangelist=
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Kathryn Kuhlman. Although he never met her personally, he often attended=20
her ?healing services? and has often cited her as an influence in his life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_hinn
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