Indeed. However, notice how the writer (and others) must
be guarded s/he (they) had to be to keep from being savaged
by other 'loving' Christians. So much for 'peace, love,
and understanding.' :\

Religion is the problem, not the solution.

:|On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 06:31:06 -0400, buckeye-ELO wrote:
:|
:|> Several days ago this entry was made in the Guestbook for our web site:
:|>
:|> Name: [snip]
:|> E-Mail: [snip]
:|> Homepage Title:
:|> Homepage URL:
:|> Referred By: Search Engine
:|> Location: [snip]
:|> Comments: Was looking for information on posting "In God We Trust" in
:|> the classroom and found so much more--so well organized--wish I had been
:|> aware of this site when I was doing Newdow research.
:|> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
:|> I replied back as follows:
:|>
:|> jalison@ wrote: Tuesday 07/27/2004 11:39:48am
:|> Thank you for your kind words
:|> Had you known about the site earlier you would have had an inside source to
:|> Mike Newdow as I was doing much of his historical research from Aug 2002,
:|> when he found our web site, until Feb 2004 when he completed his final
:|> brief to the USSC before his oral arguments.
:|>
:|> ja
:|>
:|> **********************************************
:|> THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLE:
:|> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE
:|>
:|> http://members.tripod.com/~candst/index.html
:|>
:|> "Dedicated to combatting 'history by sound bite'."
:|>
:|> Now including a re-publication of Tom Peters
:|> SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE HOME PAGE
:|> and
:|> Audio links to Supreme Court oral arguments and
:|> Speech by civil rights/constitutional lawyer and others.
:|>
:|> This site is a member of the following web rings:
:|>
:|> Freethought Ring--&--Freethought, Religion & Beliefs Ring
:|>
:|> The First Amendment Ring--&--The Church-State Ring
:|>
:|> American History WebRing--&--The History Ring
:|>
:|> Let Freedom Ring--&--Religious Freedom Ring
:|>
:|> Law Issues Ring--&--Legal Research Ring
:|>
:|> **************************************************
:|> This reply came back:
:|>
:|>
:|> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 09:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
:|> From: [snip]
:|> Subject: Newdow
:|> To: jalison@
:|>
:|> Well, I want to tell you that Newdow's briefs were fantastic. I was
:|> particularly impressed by the historical arguments. Serving as staff
:|> attorney for the [snip] State School Boards Association, I did a powerpoint
:|> presentation on the Pledge case- applying the three tests as the Supreme
:|> Court has in an attempt to infuse some logic into the debate instead of
:|> relying on emotion only. My message was that there was room for debate and
:|> it wasn't just some lark by a crazy Atheist. The best part of my job is
:|> opening eyes at times (in the area of AIDS/school prayer, etc.)
:|>
:|> I can't say this publicly due to the conservative nature of our state and
:|> membership (not to mention NSBA writing an Amicus for the other side), but
:|> our whole legal staff was privately rooting for Newdow. When I was
:|> highschool age and in the public school system, I refused to utter "under
:|> God," not because I didn't believe in God but I didn't feel that it was
:|> appropriate in school. I felt the same when I moved down from [snip] to
:|> [snip] to find an elected student council chaplain who did the prayer
:|> before football games. Vindication will come too on the pledge issue
:|> sometime in the future. Thanks for e-mailing me back! What a fantastic
:|> case to be involved in.
:|>
:|> Very Truly Yours,
:|>
:|> [snip]
:|> *******************************************
:|> Emails such as the above are always nice to receive. it is good to know it
:|> isn't just the religious right that has people in places where a difference
:|> can be made.
:|
:|
:|Indeed. However, notice how the writer (and others) must
:|be guarded s/he (they) had to be to keep from being savaged
:|by other 'loving' Christians. So much for 'peace, love,
:|and understanding.' :\