Religions > Atheism > News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion.
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"Michael Gray" |
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06 Nov 2006 05:44:43 PM |
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News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at “faith schools”
http://www.secularism.org.uk/blairgiveschurchesevenmorepowert.html
"The careers of tens of thousands of staff in publicly-funded faith
schools have been put at risk because the Government has swept aside
long-standing legal bans on discrimination against staff who do not
share the religion of the school or do not have a religion at all. The
Commons passed the change last night as part of the Education and
Inspections Bill, refusing even to answer many of the objections
raised. An amendment to reverse the move was defeated by 28 votes to
325.
Keith Porteous Wood, Executive Director of the National Secular
Society said: “This was a massive defeat for workers in so-called
faith schools who are non-religious or of another religion. They have
just been rendered second class citizens. Workplace protections which
they had taken for granted have now been swept away without any
consultation or warning.
“There appears to be no limit to what Mr Blair is prepared to do to
satisfy the never-ending demands of the churches. He has not only
betrayed these thousands of employees, he has betrayed the unions
representing them and betrayed Parliament by seeking to bring in this
measure in such an underhand way.
“The real message from last week’s U-turn on school admissions quotas
was that it is the churches that call the tune in our schools. The
price the Government was happy to pay to appease church leaders was to
accept that faith schools could do what they liked on admissions even
if that created an apartheid education system.
“This week’s Government concession to the churches is to betray
non-religious staff in the 7,000 faith schools, even though their
running costs are paid 100% by the taxpayer.
“The Government was so eager to placate the churches that it tried to
slip the changes in at the very last moment with Machiavellian
amendments clearly designed to pass unnoticed.
“When the amendments were uncovered by the National Secular Society,
peers and unions accused education minister Lord Adonis of a complete
failure to consult them on such an important change. Lord Adonis
insisted that unions had been “thoroughly consulted” (Lords 30 Oct
2006 : Column 53).
“Yet it emerged last night in the Commons that neither the largest
teaching union, the NUT, nor the National Association of Head
Teachers, had been consulted at all – despite head teachers being
those most affected by the changes. The other group caught up in this
newly legalised discrimination are support staff. The GMB union, which
represents them, has issued a statement expressing its dismay at the
changes, about which it states it had not been consulted."
Most of those speaking out against the changes in Parliament were
Honorary Associates of the National Secular Society. Lady Turner of
Camden led the attack in the House of Lords, in which Lord Avebury
also played a leading part. Dr Evan Harris led the opposition in the
Commons assisted by Paul Holmes."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
07 Nov 2006 11:40:34 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at faith schools
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
07 Nov 2006 03:19:32 PM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at “faith schools”
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
William Wallace in Woad?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
07 Nov 2006 07:47:59 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:49:32 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <o5h1l25pl4eadorfjjmonp0lgs0l5pq076@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at faith schools
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
William Wallace in Woad?
That's the period I was thinking of. You have a few different groups
of "savages" to choose from.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 05:24:25 AM |
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On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:47:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:49:32 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <o5h1l25pl4eadorfjjmonp0lgs0l5pq076@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at “faith schools”
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
William Wallace in Woad?
That's the period I was thinking of. You have a few different groups
of "savages" to choose from.
"Mad Max does Boston", perhaps?
....Hey Hymie, I think we got ourselves a movie here!
Get my agent on the dog and bone!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 09:36:22 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:54:25 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:47:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <gpd2l29ing4hplnm942tpteo59r8h4l6jf@4ax.com>
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:49:32 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <o5h1l25pl4eadorfjjmonp0lgs0l5pq076@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at faith schools
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
William Wallace in Woad?
That's the period I was thinking of. You have a few different groups
of "savages" to choose from.
"Mad Max does Boston", perhaps?
...Hey Hymie, I think we got ourselves a movie here!
Get my agent on the dog and bone!
Cockney? Strine Cockney? Or is that Cockney Strine? (Pretty good
for a Yank to understand that, eh, what?)
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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insofar as it allows our inadequate senses to appreciate it."
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 04:34:34 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:36:22 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 21:54:25 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:47:59 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <gpd2l29ing4hplnm942tpteo59r8h4l6jf@4ax.com>
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:49:32 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:40:34 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <o5h1l25pl4eadorfjjmonp0lgs0l5pq076@4ax.com>
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:14:43 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Blair gives churches even more power to discriminate against thousands
of staff at “faith schools”
You exported tea to us, so now we're exporting institutionalized
bigotry to you. Are you going to have a bunch of blue-faced savages
break open all the crates of bigotry and dump them in some harbor?
William Wallace in Woad?
That's the period I was thinking of. You have a few different groups
of "savages" to choose from.
"Mad Max does Boston", perhaps?
...Hey Hymie, I think we got ourselves a movie here!
Get my agent on the dog and bone!
Cockney? Strine Cockney? Or is that Cockney Strine? (Pretty good
for a Yank to understand that, eh, what?)
Yes, I'm impressed!
Much Cockney slang was imported along with the heads of the pommy
convicts who were shipped here a long time ago, and became Australian
idioms as well, and flourish to this day.
As regards the film, I have decided against casting Mel Gibson in the
lead role, and am scratching around for another actor.
Not interested are you?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 05:23:41 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:04:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Much Cockney slang was imported along with the heads of the pommy
convicts who were shipped here a long time ago, and became Australian
idioms as well, and flourish to this day.
You only got their heads? What did England do with the bodies and
limbs?
As regards the film, I have decided against casting Mel Gibson in the
lead role, and am scratching around for another actor.
Not interested are you?
Sure. I can learn a script. Does the part call for an overweight old
man?
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
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- Theodosuis Dobzhansky
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 08:51:45 PM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:23:41 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <1lp4l21if8vec5db2pjuvbnk3mfuqvg8ti@4ax.com>
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:04:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Much Cockney slang was imported along with the heads of the pommy
convicts who were shipped here a long time ago, and became Australian
idioms as well, and flourish to this day.
You only got their heads? What did England do with the bodies and
limbs?
Flogged 'em raw, Jim lad!
And the slang was only in their heads. (Although I have heard unkind
suggestions that the cruder words emanated from another body part)
As regards the film, I have decided against casting Mel Gibson in the
lead role, and am scratching around for another actor.
Not interested are you?
Sure. I can learn a script. Does the part call for an overweight old
man?
Yeah, since Marlon Brando went and died on us.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: News: Bliar drops bans on discrimination against staff who have different or no religion. |
08 Nov 2006 10:30:45 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:21:45 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:23:41 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <1lp4l21if8vec5db2pjuvbnk3mfuqvg8ti@4ax.com>
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:04:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Much Cockney slang was imported along with the heads of the pommy
convicts who were shipped here a long time ago, and became Australian
idioms as well, and flourish to this day.
You only got their heads? What did England do with the bodies and
limbs?
Flogged 'em raw, Jim lad!
And the slang was only in their heads. (Although I have heard unkind
suggestions that the cruder words emanated from another body part)
As regards the film, I have decided against casting Mel Gibson in the
lead role, and am scratching around for another actor.
Not interested are you?
Sure. I can learn a script. Does the part call for an overweight old
man?
Yeah, since Marlon Brando went and died on us.
Oh, I can do Brando real good. And I won't even have to practice the
Brooklyn accent - it's my normal speech.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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09 Nov 2006 02:44:27 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:30:45 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 13:21:45 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 18:23:41 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
- Refer: <1lp4l21if8vec5db2pjuvbnk3mfuqvg8ti@4ax.com>
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 09:04:34 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
Much Cockney slang was imported along with the heads of the pommy
convicts who were shipped here a long time ago, and became Australian
idioms as well, and flourish to this day.
You only got their heads? What did England do with the bodies and
limbs?
Flogged 'em raw, Jim lad!
And the slang was only in their heads. (Although I have heard unkind
suggestions that the cruder words emanated from another body part)
As regards the film, I have decided against casting Mel Gibson in the
lead role, and am scratching around for another actor.
Not interested are you?
Sure. I can learn a script. Does the part call for an overweight old
man?
Yeah, since Marlon Brando went and died on us.
Oh, I can do Brando real good. And I won't even have to practice the
Brooklyn accent - it's my normal speech.
"Stella!"
No, hang on. Even better:
"The Atheist-father, part II" coming right up!
(I can hear the mandolins playing the theme song even now.)
Get that cotton wool at the ready.
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