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User: "Roshard Davis"
Date: 20 Oct 2003 01:24:08 PM
Object: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge.
http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.
Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or
risk having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering
whether the words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and
state.
''Whenever something occurs, we go back and review all the
circumstances that were involved, and from that it may involve some
changes,'' said Tim Mills, superintendent of Mesa County School
District 51. ''At this point, we haven't looked at it that closely to
come back and say this is exactly the steps we (will) take.''
The Orange & Black, a student-run newspaper at Grand Junction High
School with a circulation of about 3,000, ran the photo with a story
about the state law.
''(Fascism is) the government imposing its will on you. It's fascist
to make us say the pledge,'' said Had Stine, one of the students shown
making the salute.
The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday
on campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash
and wouldn't distribute it to their students.
Mark Newton, a journalism teacher and adviser to the student paper,
said the decision to publish the photo was not something the editorial
staff took lightly. The students spent three hours debating the merits
of the stories, the photo and the coverage.
In the end, a decision was made to go with the photo because it best
depicted the story.
This month, the student newspaper was named the best large high school
newspaper in the state at the annual Colorado High School Press
Association High School Newspaper Conference in Fort Collins.
Officials would not say if any disciplinary action had been taken
against the students. ''I can't tell you anything about student
discipline issues,'' Principal Kevin Schott said. ''I can tell you
that we will address it.''
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User: "jwk"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 21 Oct 2003 07:25:57 AM
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http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

[snip]

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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 20 Oct 2003 10:46:21 PM
(Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting. They
did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or
risk having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering
whether the words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and
state.

If the phrase was accepted by the Federal government in the 1860's after
and during the reformation process when Southern States submitted new
Constitutions, it would _require_ a Federal Judge to rectify.

The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday
on campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash
and wouldn't distribute it to their students.

That was wrong. What does that teach the students? It teaches them that
everything they're saying about the growing fascism under Bush is correct.
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User: "Tribaltech"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 21 Oct 2003 01:22:51 AM
"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.


Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting.

They

did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or
risk having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering
whether the words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and
state.

It absolutely *is* a violation, because the SC has stated in the past that
while such things *might* be legal in the adult world, schools are totally
off limits for compulsory expressions of religious belief.


If the phrase was accepted by the Federal government in the 1860's after
and during the reformation process when Southern States submitted new
Constitutions, it would _require_ a Federal Judge to rectify.

The phrase was added in the 1950s.


The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday
on campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash
and wouldn't distribute it to their students.


That was wrong. What does that teach the students? It teaches them that
everything they're saying about the growing fascism under Bush is correct.

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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 08:09:25 PM
"Tribaltech" <tribaltech@cox.net> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <frice@skeptictank.org> wrote in message
news:vp9b2j8mk8iabc@corp.supernews.com...

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at

If the phrase was accepted by the Federal government in the 1860's after
and during the reformation process when Southern States submitted new
Constitutions, it would _require_ a Federal Judge to rectify.

The phrase was added in the 1950s.

I mean the Colorado State Constitution, not the McCarthy era addition.
If the Colorado State Constitution specifically dictates that the "pledge"
be rituallky recited, the Constitution should have been reviewed and then
accepted during the reformation after the Civil War. That the "pledge"
was altered to include the invocation of the occult should have made it
a violation of Colorado's State Constitution as well as the Federal.
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User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 09:36:04 PM

I mean the Colorado State Constitution, not the McCarthy era addition.
If the Colorado State Constitution specifically dictates that the "pledge"
be rituallky recited, the Constitution should have been reviewed and then
accepted during the reformation after the Civil War. That the "pledge"
was altered to include the invocation of the occult should have made it
a violation of Colorado's State Constitution as well as the Federal.

Well, that would have been difficult for two reasons.
1) Colorado did not become a state until 11 years after the Civil War was over.
(1876)
2) The Pledge was not written until 27 years after the Civil War was over.
(1892)
Besides, ANY compulsory recitation of the Pledge was upheld as unconstitutional
in 1943...11 years before it was illegally altered in 1954. So if compulsory
recitation mandated by government officials was illegal without the "under God"
clause it is now doubly so with it.
"Words uttered under coercion are proof of loyalty to nothing but self-
interest. Love of country must spring from willing hearts and free minds,
inspired by a fair administration of wise laws enacted by the people's elected
representatives within the bounds of express constitutional prohibitions. These
laws must, to be consistent with the First Amendment, permit the widest
toleration of conflicting viewpoints consistent with a society of free men.
Neither our domestic tranquillity in peace nor our martial effort in war depend
on compelling little children to participate in a ceremony which ends in
nothing for them but a fear of spiritual condemnation. If, as we think, their
fears are groundless, time and reason are the proper antidotes for their
errors. The ceremonial, when enforced against conscientious objectors, more
likely to defeat than to serve its high purpose, is a handy implement for
disguised religious persecution. As such, it is inconsistent with our
Constitution's plan and purpose." - US Supreme Court, West Virginia v. Barnette
(1943)
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
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User: "Tlalocelotl Tlatoani"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 20 Oct 2003 11:19:52 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" wrote:


superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.


Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting. They
did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.

And since when are you the judge of what people can and cannot do,
liar?
They had a point, they used the most potent imagery possible to deliver
their message, and apparently, IT WORKED! That kind of thinking is why
papers like that get judged best high school newspaper to begin with.
Sheeeeeeeesh!
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User: "Fredric L. Rice"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 08:09:24 PM
Tlalocelotl Tlatoani <redkrewe@sprintmail.com> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" wrote:

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting. They
did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.

And since when are you the judge of what people can and cannot do, liar?

Shouldn't you be in rehab?
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User: "Tlalocelotl Tlatoani"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 10:48:36 PM
"Fredric L. Rice" wrote:


Tlalocelotl Tlatoani <redkrewe@sprintmail.com> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" wrote:

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting. They
did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.


And since when are you the judge of what people can and cannot do, liar?


Shouldn't you be in rehab?

Shouldn't you have answered the questions?
Oh, right, I forgot, you're a scared little pu$$y that doesn't like to
be challenged.
New shirt!
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User: "Thomas P."

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 21 Oct 2003 01:50:36 AM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 03:46:21 GMT,
(Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

superillusion666@webtv.net (Roshard Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.


Well goat grief, that's going way too far in a public school setting. They
did ths solely to acquire media attention, not as part of an expression of
freedom of speech or political commentary on the Nazi fascism under Bush.

How do you know why they did it? If you are right, what is wrong with
it?
snip
Thomas P.
"That there are manes, a subterranean kingdom, a ferryman with a long pole, and black frogs in the whirlpools
of the Styx; that so many thousand men could cross the waves in a single boat, today even children refuse to believe."
Juvenal
.


User: "Steve Mading"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 21 Oct 2003 03:32:09 PM
In talk.atheism Roshard Davis <superillusion666@webtv.net> wrote:
: http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034
: GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
: best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
: requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.
Absolutely. And the students are apparently smarter than their teachers
in this regard. The whole flap over the "under god" phrase in the
pledge ignores a bigger problem - the pledge itself, even without
that phrase, is already a statement of loyalty toward the nation.
That is exactly the sort of thing that should not be made compulsory.
In a true democracy, patriotism is only patriotic when it's voluntary.
Mandatory patrtiotism should be opposed by anyone who considers himself
an actual patriot of the values that started the USA.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 02:57:35 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 20:32:09 +0000 (UTC), Steve Mading
<madings@baladi.bmrb.wisc.edu>, Message ID:
<bn4549$488$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> wrote in alt.atheism;

In talk.atheism Roshard Davis <superillusion666@webtv.net> wrote:
: http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

: GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
: best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
: requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

Absolutely. And the students are apparently smarter than their teachers
in this regard.

In instances like these such is not, imo, unusual.

The whole flap over the "under god" phrase in the
pledge ignores a bigger problem - the pledge itself, even without
that phrase, is already a statement of loyalty toward the nation.
That is exactly the sort of thing that should not be made compulsory.
In a true democracy,

In a democracy period.

patriotism is only patriotic when it's voluntary.

Yes.

Mandatory patrtiotism should be opposed by anyone who considers himself
an actual patriot of the values that started the USA.

Such isn't patriotism. Such is nothing more than jumping on the
bandwagon and posturing.


Stoney
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and
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When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
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User: "Bob Larson"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 21 Oct 2003 01:06:54 PM
On 20 Oct 2003 11:24:08 -0700,
(Roshard
Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

Of course it is (quite obviously). Being *REQUIRED* to pledge an
allegiance to anything is fascism, but infinately more so when the
state makes the requirement. I cannot imagine why this appears to be
"news" to Grand Junction.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 23 Oct 2003 02:38:55 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 2003 18:06:54 GMT,
(Bob Larson), Message
ID: <bn3sjd$rqt1e$1@ID-197010.news.uni-berlin.de> wrote in alt.atheism;

On 20 Oct 2003 11:24:08 -0700,

(Roshard
Davis) wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.


Of course it is (quite obviously). Being *REQUIRED* to pledge an
allegiance to anything is fascism, but infinately more so when the
state makes the requirement. I cannot imagine why this appears to be
"news" to Grand Junction.

Errrr.....'fascism is unamerican?'


Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
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.


User: "Mekkala"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 22 Oct 2003 11:25:52 AM
On 20 Oct 2003,
(Roshard Davis) screwed up
his face, groaned, pushed hard, and farted out the following message in
news:4caa8c9f.0310201024.2f70ce95@posting.google.com:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or
risk having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering
whether the words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and
state.

''Whenever something occurs, we go back and review all the
circumstances that were involved, and from that it may involve some
changes,'' said Tim Mills, superintendent of Mesa County School
District 51. ''At this point, we haven't looked at it that closely to
come back and say this is exactly the steps we (will) take.''

The Orange & Black, a student-run newspaper at Grand Junction High
School with a circulation of about 3,000, ran the photo with a story
about the state law.

''(Fascism is) the government imposing its will on you. It's fascist
to make us say the pledge,'' said Had Stine, one of the students shown
making the salute.

The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday
on campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash
and wouldn't distribute it to their students.
Mark Newton, a journalism teacher and adviser to the student paper,
said the decision to publish the photo was not something the editorial
staff took lightly. The students spent three hours debating the merits
of the stories, the photo and the coverage.
In the end, a decision was made to go with the photo because it best
depicted the story.

This month, the student newspaper was named the best large high school
newspaper in the state at the annual Colorado High School Press
Association High School Newspaper Conference in Fort Collins.
Officials would not say if any disciplinary action had been taken
against the students. ''I can't tell you anything about student
discipline issues,'' Principal Kevin Schott said. ''I can tell you
that we will address it.''

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Since when does a *STUDENT-RUN PAPER* not have the right to print
controversial material?
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realized I was talking to myself!"
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User: "MarkA"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 20 Oct 2003 01:51:03 PM
On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:24:08 +0000, Roshard Davis wrote:

http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's best
high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that requiring
students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

The newspaper published a picture of student high school students giving a
fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or risk
having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering whether the
words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and state.

''Whenever something occurs, we go back and review all the circumstances
that were involved, and from that it may involve some changes,'' said Tim
Mills, superintendent of Mesa County School District 51. ''At this point,
we haven't looked at it that closely to come back and say this is exactly
the steps we (will) take.''

The Orange & Black, a student-run newspaper at Grand Junction High School
with a circulation of about 3,000, ran the photo with a story about the
state law.

''(Fascism is) the government imposing its will on you. It's fascist to
make us say the pledge,'' said Had Stine, one of the students shown making
the salute.

The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday on
campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash and
wouldn't distribute it to their students. Mark Newton, a journalism
teacher and adviser to the student paper, said the decision to publish the
photo was not something the editorial staff took lightly. The students
spent three hours debating the merits of the stories, the photo and the
coverage. In the end, a decision was made to go with the photo because it
best depicted the story.

This month, the student newspaper was named the best large high school
newspaper in the state at the annual Colorado High School Press
Association High School Newspaper Conference in Fort Collins. Officials
would not say if any disciplinary action had been taken against the
students. ''I can't tell you anything about student discipline issues,''
Principal Kevin Schott said. ''I can tell you that we will address it.''

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Perhaps that is why it was named "best large high school newspaper".
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User: "Arne Langsetmo"

Title: Re: News: High School Newspaper Under Attack for Opinions on the Pledge. 20 Oct 2003 08:20:21 PM
Roshard Davis wrote:


http://www.trib.com/AP/wire_detail.php?wire_num=279034

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. (AP) - The Orange & Black, judged the state's
best high school newspaper, is under attack for suggesting that
requiring students to cite the pledge of allegiance is fascist.

The newspaper published a picture of student high school students
giving a fascist salute as they recited the pledge.

Earlier this year Colorado required students to recite the pledge at
public schools. The law was challenged by the American Civil Liberties
Union, and a federal judge told the Legislature to rewrite the law or
risk having it struck down. The U.S. Supreme Court is considering
whether the words ''under God'' violate the separation of church and
state.

''Whenever something occurs, we go back and review all the
circumstances that were involved, and from that it may involve some
changes,'' said Tim Mills, superintendent of Mesa County School
District 51. ''At this point, we haven't looked at it that closely to
come back and say this is exactly the steps we (will) take.''

The Orange & Black, a student-run newspaper at Grand Junction High
School with a circulation of about 3,000, ran the photo with a story
about the state law.

''(Fascism is) the government imposing its will on you. It's fascist
to make us say the pledge,'' said Had Stine, one of the students shown
making the salute.

The paper, with a circulation of about 3,000, was distributed Tuesday
on campus and around town. Within an hour of publication, the backlash
started. Some teachers took the newspaper and threw it in the trash
and wouldn't distribute it to their students.

So they decided to rush right in and prove the students right. LOL.
Cheers,
-- Arne Langsetmo
a.a. #101

Mark Newton, a journalism teacher and adviser to the student paper,
said the decision to publish the photo was not something the editorial
staff took lightly. The students spent three hours debating the merits
of the stories, the photo and the coverage.
In the end, a decision was made to go with the photo because it best
depicted the story.

This month, the student newspaper was named the best large high school
newspaper in the state at the annual Colorado High School Press
Association High School Newspaper Conference in Fort Collins.
Officials would not say if any disciplinary action had been taken
against the students. ''I can't tell you anything about student
discipline issues,'' Principal Kevin Schott said. ''I can tell you
that we will address it.''

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