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User: "Michael Gray"
Date: 06 Nov 2006 05:50:33 PM
Object: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time
Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat
"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.
The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.
But the airline's workers as well as Islamist politicians say it is
part of a crackdown on their religious freedom.
Praying is one of the five pillars of Islam and regarded as a crucial
part of a Muslim's way of life.
The state airline, partly owned by the Moroccan royal family, is a
great source of pride and prestige in the country.
But this latest move threatens to exacerbate divisions in Morocco.
Workers say that they have been banned from praying at work and that a
number of prayer rooms have been closed and that they are forbidden
from going to the mosque during work hours.
The company would not give an interview but issued a statement saying
that while there is no official ban on praying, they had to do
something to stop people taking lengthy breaks away from work.
But critics say the issue of praying, like the veil, is part of a more
sinister move to rob the country of its Islamic roots.
Political
"I feel very angry about this decision," says Moustapha Aramid from
the Islamic Party for Justice and Development.
"Moroccans have had their liberty and their religious freedom taken
away from them. It is very damaging. Royal Air Morocco obviously has
absolutely no respect for Islam."
Analysts say the ban on prayers is really a political move aimed at
stamping out radical Islamism.
When an alleged terrorist cell - Ansar el-Mehdi - was broken up
earlier this year - two of the suspects charged were the wives of two
Royal Air Morocco pilots.
There is a feeling that the company had to do something to respond.
Other complaints from airline staff are that pilots and stewards were
not allowed to fast during the month of Ramadan and that female staff
are not allowed to wear the veil - although that has been an unwritten
rule at many companies for several years.
These issues are becoming a focal point for some very hard questions
being asked of this moderate Arabic country - something that is
causing serious friction between liberals and traditionalists."
--
.

User: "johac"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 07 Nov 2006 01:47:21 AM
In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 07 Nov 2006 04:04:59 AM
On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)

I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 08 Nov 2006 12:26:06 AM
In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--

I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 08 Nov 2006 05:25:13 AM
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.

That's such meccanistic thinking.
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 09 Nov 2006 12:09:43 AM
In article <ojf3l2tfh26fl7rmup1t7rd6pl37goicgp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.


That's such meccanistic thinking.

--

I something on the plane breaks, they'll need meccanics to fix it.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 09 Nov 2006 02:46:17 AM
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:09:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-43C24C.22094308112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <ojf3l2tfh26fl7rmup1t7rd6pl37goicgp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.


That's such meccanistic thinking.

--


I something on the plane breaks, they'll need meccanics to fix it.

Then all the compasses will become qiblas.
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 09 Nov 2006 11:57:21 PM
In article <rjq5l2dt7h9miaci7fm5ecitl8v6jplbqi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:09:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-43C24C.22094308112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <ojf3l2tfh26fl7rmup1t7rd6pl37goicgp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.


That's such meccanistic thinking.

--


I something on the plane breaks, they'll need meccanics to fix it.


Then all the compasses will become qiblas.

--

Burqa clad stewardess: "Would you like some cream with your Koran?"
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 10 Nov 2006 04:30:34 AM
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:57:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B291B4.21572109112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <rjq5l2dt7h9miaci7fm5ecitl8v6jplbqi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:09:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-43C24C.22094308112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <ojf3l2tfh26fl7rmup1t7rd6pl37goicgp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.


That's such meccanistic thinking.

--


I something on the plane breaks, they'll need meccanics to fix it.


Then all the compasses will become qiblas.

--


Burqa clad stewardess: "Would you like some cream with your Koran?"

She must be a dummy.
You can't see her lips move.
(Cue 'nam chopper in-flight music: "Paint it Black")
--
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 11 Nov 2006 12:01:51 AM
In article <ptk8l25mblerr1fv4kf017ilkk5kf6qr6d@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:57:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-B291B4.21572109112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <rjq5l2dt7h9miaci7fm5ecitl8v6jplbqi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 22:09:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-43C24C.22094308112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <ojf3l2tfh26fl7rmup1t7rd6pl37goicgp@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:26:06 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-C8AD7D.22260607112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <qhm0l21fu2k50d5ppvln8hmrjrdq2fg24j@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:47:21 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <jhachmann-1E264B.23472106112006@news.giganews.com>

In article <1givk2d6qlf9ctkqu8utr4vtrqtthsg1hi@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff
praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their
desks
and their customers.

Does that apply in flight to pilots and flight crews too? (I hope.)


I only hope that it applies to the autopilots!

--


I thought that Muslim autopilots only fly to Mecca.


That's such meccanistic thinking.

--


I something on the plane breaks, they'll need meccanics to fix it.


Then all the compasses will become qiblas.

--


Burqa clad stewardess: "Would you like some cream with your Koran?"


She must be a dummy.
You can't see her lips move.

(Cue 'nam chopper in-flight music: "Paint it Black")

Ah, the Stones. Memories of another time, another place.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.









User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 07 Nov 2006 02:54:32 AM
Michael Gray a =E9crit :

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

The company says that in the past its workers have abused the
privilege of praying, by taking too much time away from their desks
and their customers.

But the airline's workers as well as Islamist politicians say it is
part of a crackdown on their religious freedom.

Oh, I'd like to see what J Young has to say about that!!!


Praying is one of the five pillars of Islam and regarded as a crucial
part of a Muslim's way of life.

The state airline, partly owned by the Moroccan royal family, is a
great source of pride and prestige in the country.

But this latest move threatens to exacerbate divisions in Morocco.

Workers say that they have been banned from praying at work and that a
number of prayer rooms have been closed and that they are forbidden
from going to the mosque during work hours.

The company would not give an interview but issued a statement saying
that while there is no official ban on praying, they had to do
something to stop people taking lengthy breaks away from work.

But critics say the issue of praying, like the veil, is part of a more
sinister move to rob the country of its Islamic roots.

Political

"I feel very angry about this decision," says Moustapha Aramid from
the Islamic Party for Justice and Development.

"Moroccans have had their liberty and their religious freedom taken
away from them. It is very damaging. Royal Air Morocco obviously has
absolutely no respect for Islam."

Analysts say the ban on prayers is really a political move aimed at
stamping out radical Islamism.

When an alleged terrorist cell - Ansar el-Mehdi - was broken up
earlier this year - two of the suspects charged were the wives of two
Royal Air Morocco pilots.

There is a feeling that the company had to do something to respond.

Other complaints from airline staff are that pilots and stewards were
not allowed to fast during the month of Ramadan and that female staff
are not allowed to wear the veil - although that has been an unwritten
rule at many companies for several years.

These issues are becoming a focal point for some very hard questions
being asked of this moderate Arabic country - something that is
causing serious friction between liberals and traditionalists."
=20
--

.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 07 Nov 2006 11:36:14 AM
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 10:20:33 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat

"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

I'd like to see Elroy rewrite this as a piece about India banning
Thuggees from killing while on the job. Just to show how ridiculous
religious beliefs are.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"We should do unto others as we would want them to do unto us. If I were an unborn
fetus I would want others to use force to protect me, therefore using force against
abortionists is *justifiable homocide*."
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User: "Elroy Willis"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 08 Nov 2006 08:31:36 AM
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism

Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:

Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat
"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.

I'd like to see Elroy rewrite this as a piece about India banning
Thuggees from killing while on the job. Just to show how ridiculous
religious beliefs are.

Is that a challenge?
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: News: Moroccan airline bans prayer time 08 Nov 2006 10:33:06 AM
On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:31:36 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in alt.atheism

Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:


Moroccan airline bans prayer time
By Richard Hamilton
BBC News, Rabat


"Morocco's state airline Royal Air Maroc has banned its staff praying
at their offices and headquarters.


I'd like to see Elroy rewrite this as a piece about India banning
Thuggees from killing while on the job. Just to show how ridiculous
religious beliefs are.


Is that a challenge?

A free suggestion.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
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