Religions > Atheism > NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq
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NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
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From Superpower to Tinhorn Dictatorship
by Paul Craig Roberts
America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second
term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the
discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will
tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly
be felt by those few who challenge it.
The congressional elections this coming November are the last chance
for for Americans to reaffirm the separation of powers that is the
basis of their civil liberties. Unless the voters correct their mistake
of putting both the executive and legislative branches in the hands of
the same party and deliver the House or the Senate to the Democrats,
there is nothing on the domestic scene to stand in the way of more
power, and less accountability, being accumulated in the executive.
The Democrats have been a totally ineffective opposition and might not
inspire any voter response other than apathy. Rather than vote for a
cowardly party that is afraid to defend the Constitution, voters might
simply not vote at all.
In this unfortunate event, the only check on the Bush regime is its own
hubris.
Bush's ill-fated invasion of Iraq has set in motion forces beyond his
control. On February 23 the Asia Times reported that America's
Pakistani puppet, Musharraf, is "losing his grip." Some Pakistani
provinces are already beyond Musharraf's control, and the remainder
are rioting against "Busharraf" as Musharraf is now known. The
infantile American press misrepresents the riots as responses to the
Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammed, but in fact the target of the
riots is the American puppet.
By invading Afghanistan and Iraq and by threatening Syria and Iran,
Bush has taught Muslims everywhere that they owe their humiliation to
the Western controlled secular governments that suppress their
aspirations. They are realizing that their power resides in Islam and
that this power is suppressed by secular governments. Busharraf is
probably dead meat, and when he goes so does the US military adventure
in Afghanistan.
When Bush attacks Iran, the US army will be caught between the Iraqi
Shia and the Iranian Shia and will be decimated in fourth generation
conflict, so aptly described by William S. Lind. If a few thousand
Sunni insurgents can tie down 10 US divisions, imagine the fate of US
forces trapped in a Shia crescent.
The collapsing power of the US hegemon is everywhere evident. It is
evident in the inability to successfully occupy Iraq or even Baghdad.
It is evident in the growing military cooperation between North and
South Korea, and it is evident it the revolt in the Indian government
against Prime Minister Singh's nuclear agreement with the US. Indians
say this agreement subjects India to US hegemony and represents
America's attempt to block India's pioneering research on thorium
as a nuclear fuel. Opposition parties have told Singh that if he signs
the agreement, they will bring down his government.
The entire world now recognizes that America has lost its economic
power and is dependent on the rest of the world to finance its budget
and trade deficits. The US no longer holds the cards. American real
incomes are falling, except for the rich. Jobs for university graduates
are scarce, and advanced technology products must be imported from
China. The US is a rapidly declining power and may soon end up as
nothing but a tinhorn dictatorship.
February 27, 2006
Dr. Roberts [send him mail] is Chairman of the Institute for Political
Economy and Research Fellow at the Independent Institute. He is a
former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, former contributing
editor for National Review, and a former assistant secretary of the
U=2ES. Treasury. He is the co-author of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.
Copyright =A9 2006 LewRockwell.com
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06 Mar 2006 09:04:00 PM |
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Northern Raider <northland@north.com> wrote in message
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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And in the end, all our demands were met. We won. Get over it.
What demands??
I wish you had read a history book at least once in your life.....beating up
on intellectually helpless people like you makes me feel guilty for a few
seconds each day.
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| User: "Northern Raider" |
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07 Mar 2006 06:15:09 AM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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Northern Raider <northland@north.com> wrote in message
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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And in the end, all our demands were met. We won. Get over it.
What demands??
I wish you had read a history book at least once in your life.....beating
up
on intellectually helpless people like you makes me feel guilty for a few
seconds each day.
You call losing loads of cities , getting your capital burnt, your merchant
marine wiped out and being completely routed from Canada a victory, jeeez I
knew the yanks like to live in a fantasy world but this takes the biscuit.
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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08 Mar 2006 01:39:13 AM |
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Northern Raider <northland@north.com> wrote in message
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You call losing loads of cities , getting your capital burnt, your merchant
marine wiped out and being completely routed from Canada a victory
No, you ignoramus.....I call having all our demands met at the negotiations
that ended the war a victory.
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| User: "Rick Pikul" |
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03 Mar 2006 12:48:04 AM |
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On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 01:05:23 -0600, James H. Hood wrote:
And eventually acceded to all our demands.
Credit for which belongs to the French, as they had lost in Spain and
Germany. The war with France over, the British surprised no one when they
stopped acting like they were at war with France.
(BTW: Those demands were only the pretext, the real goal was always
conquest.)
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Phoenix
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01 Mar 2006 05:15:00 PM |
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wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
This is relevant to the Dungeons & Dragons gaming newsgroup how?
*****.
Learn to read.
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| User: "" |
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01 Mar 2006 09:27:44 AM |
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wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
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From Superpower to Tinhorn Dictatorship
by Paul Craig Roberts
America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second
term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the
discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will
tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly
be felt by those few who challenge it.
<snip>
The entire world now recognizes that America has lost its economic
power and is dependent on the rest of the world to finance its budget
and trade deficits. The US no longer holds the cards. American real
incomes are falling, except for the rich. Jobs for university graduates
are scarce, and advanced technology products must be imported from
China. The US is a rapidly declining power and may soon end up as
nothing but a tinhorn dictatorship.
I've said it before: the US has never won a long war (at least a
year) that it started since gaining independence. It's easy to
respond to aggression (WWII) or to hide on the sidelines until
you're forced to join (WWI and WWII), but harder to take the
shots you face when you're the invader. The road to Bush's hell
is paved with bad invasions.
The nazis thought their "reich of a thosand years" would last
forever (less than 20) and the Romans never thought theirs would
fade. The neocon "new American century" has lasted less than 10,
and just as the christian dark ages followed the romans, so may
an islamic dark ages follow the Americans.
Bob Dog
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| User: "Bill Smith" |
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01 Mar 2006 04:08:02 PM |
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On 1 Mar 2006 07:27:44 -0800, wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
.................................................................................................................
From Superpower to Tinhorn Dictatorship
by Paul Craig Roberts
America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second
term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the
discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will
tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly
be felt by those few who challenge it.
<snip>
The entire world now recognizes that America has lost its economic
power and is dependent on the rest of the world to finance its budget
and trade deficits. The US no longer holds the cards. American real
incomes are falling, except for the rich. Jobs for university graduates
are scarce, and advanced technology products must be imported from
China. The US is a rapidly declining power and may soon end up as
nothing but a tinhorn dictatorship.
I've said it before: the US has never won a long war (at least a
year) that it started since gaining independence. It's easy to
respond to aggression (WWII) or to hide on the sidelines until
you're forced to join (WWI and WWII), but harder to take the
shots you face when you're the invader. The road to Bush's hell
is paved with bad invasions.
The nazis thought their "reich of a thosand years" would last
forever (less than 20) and the Romans never thought theirs would
fade. The neocon "new American century" has lasted less than 10,
and just as the christian dark ages followed the romans, so may
an islamic dark ages follow the Americans.
Bob Dog
No nation has won a major war it started since 1870. What would you
define as victory in this one?
Bill Smith
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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01 Mar 2006 05:07:00 PM |
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"Bill Smith" <quandary@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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On 1 Mar 2006 07:27:44 -0800, wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
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From Superpower to Tinhorn Dictatorship
by Paul Craig Roberts
America is headed for a soft dictatorship by the end of Bush's second
term. Whether any American has civil rights will be decided by the
discretionary power of federal officials. The public in general will
tolerate the soft dictatorship as its discretionary powers will mainly
be felt by those few who challenge it.
<snip>
The entire world now recognizes that America has lost its economic
power and is dependent on the rest of the world to finance its budget
and trade deficits. The US no longer holds the cards. American real
incomes are falling, except for the rich. Jobs for university graduates
are scarce, and advanced technology products must be imported from
China. The US is a rapidly declining power and may soon end up as
nothing but a tinhorn dictatorship.
I've said it before: the US has never won a long war (at least a
year) that it started since gaining independence. It's easy to
respond to aggression (WWII) or to hide on the sidelines until
you're forced to join (WWI and WWII), but harder to take the
shots you face when you're the invader. The road to Bush's hell
is paved with bad invasions.
The nazis thought their "reich of a thosand years" would last
forever (less than 20) and the Romans never thought theirs would
fade. The neocon "new American century" has lasted less than 10,
and just as the christian dark ages followed the romans, so may
an islamic dark ages follow the Americans.
Bob Dog
No nation has won a major war it started since 1870. What would you
define as victory in this one?
I define victory in Iraq as leaving behind a strong, stable, more democratic
Iraq.
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| User: "Ken" |
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01 Mar 2006 02:10:30 AM |
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wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
k
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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02 Mar 2006 12:50:58 AM |
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Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil
Thereby proving there's a lot you don't see.
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| User: "Malachias Invictus" |
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02 Mar 2006 09:21:26 AM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil
Thereby proving there's a lot you don't see.
By all means, elaborate.
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^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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02 Mar 2006 11:57:20 AM |
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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 00:50:58 -0600, "James H. Hood"
<jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote:
Ken <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1141200630.909812.138290@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil
Thereby proving there's a lot you don't see.
Anybody who still thinks that we went to Iraq to 'steal oil' after all
this time is a nutcase.
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There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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01 Mar 2006 03:31:27 AM |
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On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
k
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| User: "Nick Hull" |
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01 Mar 2006 05:47:44 AM |
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In article <tfoa02dor49vogti9946ecnu0evn5gtaor@4ax.com>,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
Watch the voters withdraw the republicans from Congress.
--
Free men own guns, slaves don't
www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5357/
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| User: "lazyike67" |
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04 Mar 2006 11:53:55 PM |
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Nick Hull wrote:
In article <tfoa02dor49vogti9946ecnu0evn5gtaor@4ax.com>,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
Watch the voters withdraw the republicans from Congress.
And Senate.... The War Powers act will follow then comes the Bush
impeachment... We will give him a fair & speedy trial... Find him
guilty along with Cheney, & crew.
Ike
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| User: "Sandlin" |
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02 Mar 2006 01:37:31 PM |
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Nick,
Thanks for the link!
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| User: "John Baker" |
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01 Mar 2006 08:34:25 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:47:44 GMT, Nick Hull <nhull@access4less.net>
wrote:
In article <tfoa02dor49vogti9946ecnu0evn5gtaor@4ax.com>,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
Watch the voters withdraw the republicans from Congress.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed..... <G>
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01 Mar 2006 08:39:15 AM |
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"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Wed, 01 Mar 2006 11:47:44 GMT, Nick Hull <nhull@access4less.net>
wrote:
In article <tfoa02dor49vogti9946ecnu0evn5gtaor@4ax.com>,
John Baker <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this
against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
Watch the voters withdraw the republicans from Congress.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed..... <G>
Try holding your breath until it happens. The leadership of the DNC has been
doing everything they can to assure a big Republican Party win in 2006.
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01 Mar 2006 10:54:57 AM |
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John Baker wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
k
please describe, in standard format, your strategic, tactical, and
logistical plan for a unilateral US pullout, with estimated losses
of all types. compare & contrast that with projected costs of US
forces remaining in country.
for bonus points, describe your alternative strategy that would have
accomplished more, with less cost (human & otherwise).
redc1c4,
we'll be waiting...... %-)
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"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "AlexD" |
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01 Mar 2006 01:26:21 PM |
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"redc1c4" <redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote in message
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John Baker wrote:
On 1 Mar 2006 00:10:30 -0800, "Ken" <autosuggestion54@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
conners_3@hotmail.com wrote:
Not bad for a few thousand Sunni insurgents who have killed close to
2300 American troops and wounded around 17000 others. All this
against
the supposedly "best" military in the world.
I cannot see how those fighting against invaders, who are intent on
stealing oil, can be termed as insurgents? However I applaud their
efforts, and feel that US forces will soon be forced to leave Iraq!
The Bush administration rushed into a war built on lies and deception
with no clear battle plan, no plan at all regarding how to wrap the
thing up, and to top it off, they underestimated both the numbers and
the resolve of the so-called "enemy." But they'll never admit any of
that no matter how many lives on both sides it ends up costing. The
***** In Chief will see to that. I'm afraid there will be no US
withdrawal from Iraq at least as long as Bush is in the White House.
k
please describe, in standard format, your strategic, tactical, and
logistical plan for a unilateral US pullout, with estimated losses
of all types. compare & contrast that with projected costs of US
forces remaining in country.
Surely this is the job of the US military/government, not some random bloke
on a newsgroup?
for bonus points, describe your alternative strategy that would have
accomplished more, with less cost (human & otherwise).
But as for an alternative strategy, that's so obvious I'm amazed you are
even asking: how about not going into Iraq in the first place. There was
never any evidence that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, or
that Iraq had any links with Al-Qaeda, or that Iraq was building up any
biological, nuclear or chemical weapons. The existing regime of inspections
plus economic sanctions was working. Though the sanctions were causing huge
hardship for the Iraqi people, this plus Saddam's atrocities were killing
fewer Iraqis than are dying now. So doing nothing would have led to fewer
Iraqi casualties, fewer allied casualties, less erosion of goodwill towards
the west in the arab world and much less terrorist threat towards the west
than we have currently ... therefore "accomplishing more, with less cost
(human & otherwise)." Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
redc1c4,
we'll be waiting...... %-)
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"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "M Dunne" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 07:29:32 AM |
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"AlexD" <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
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There was
never any evidence that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, or
that Iraq had any links with Al-Qaeda
Try telling that to the grunts:
'An incredible 85% think they are in Iraq mainly "to retaliate for Saddam's
role in the 9/11 attacks," and 77% also believe the main reason for the war
was "to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq."
http://colcam.blogspot.com/2006/03/poll-of-us-military-reveals-appalling.html
*Duh*!!
M.D.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 07:35:50 AM |
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"M Dunne" <MarcusDunn@homework.com> wrote in message
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"AlexD" <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
news:xzmNf.28376$wl.16834@text.news.
There was
never any evidence that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks,
or
that Iraq had any links with Al-Qaeda
Try telling that to the grunts:
'An incredible 85% think they are in Iraq mainly "to retaliate for
Saddam's
role in the 9/11 attacks," and 77% also believe the main reason for the
war
was "to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq."
http://colcam.blogspot.com/2006/03/poll-of-us-military-reveals-appalling.htm
l
*Duh*!!
The administration never stated that Saddam had anything to do with 9-11. It
was not why we invaded. The problem long pre-existed the invasion. The folk
who were in power did NOTHING about it but spout off, which gave the
terrorists the picture of America as being a nation of cowards.
"DUH!!" sums up the Clinton administration on Itaq. All talk - all
stupidity - no action.
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| User: "Sandlin" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 01:58:06 PM |
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M Dunne wrote:
There was
never any evidence that Iraq had anything to do with the 9/11 attacks, or
that Iraq had any links with Al-Qaeda
Try telling that to the grunts:
'An incredible 85% think they are in Iraq mainly "to retaliate for
Saddam's
role in the 9/11 attacks," and 77% also believe the main reason for the
war
was "to stop Saddam from protecting al Qaeda in Iraq."
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Yeah, scary how effective the military brain-washing soldiers receive
during training is so effective, especially when they are not allowed
to stay in touch with events going on in the outside world. They are
given a 100% government viewpoint. So, it's not a surprise the
soldiers express these viewpoints.
If they were exposed to the truth, the government would come down in
24 hours or less.
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 04:51:19 PM |
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Sandlin <sbarringer@netpenny.net> wrote in message
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Yeah, scary how effective the military brain-washing soldiers receive
during training is so effective
Ignorant fool.
They are
given a 100% government viewpoint.
Ibid.
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 12:52:21 AM |
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
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Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
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| User: "AlexD" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 01:31:13 PM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
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Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
Not my heroes, *****. Just because I think you are assholes, does not mean
I support your enemies. The insurgents are assholes too.
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| User: "Morton Davis" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 05:42:10 PM |
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"AlexD" <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
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Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
Not my heroes, *****. Just because I think you are assholes, does not
mean
I support your enemies. The insurgents are assholes too.
You're just a run of the mill fucktard troll. Best thing for you:
<plonk>
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| User: "James H. Hood" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 04:51:49 PM |
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
news:5KHNf.28876$wl.25378@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
news:xzmNf.28376$wl.16834@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
Not my heroes, *****.
Liar.
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| User: "Malachias Invictus" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 09:27:35 AM |
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"James H. Hood" <jhhoodDIESPAMMERDIE@urdirect.net> wrote in message
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AlexD <Alex.DickinsonYOUR@PANTSukgateway.net> wrote in message
news:xzmNf.28376$wl.16834@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
An insurgent is someone who revolts against established authority. Fighting
an invader/occupier does not really qualify, no matter how much you wish it
to be so. If someone invaded *my* country to plunder a resource, I would do
what I could to prevent them from using it. I am unsurprised that some
Iraqis feel the same way. Of course, spite and anger against those who have
harmed one's friends and family is also a reasonable motivation.
--
^v^v^Malachias Invictus^v^v^
It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishment the scroll,
I am the Master of my fate:
I am the Captain of my soul.
from _Invictus_, by William Ernest Henley
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| User: "Sandlin" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSFLASH: American Military has had its ***** kicked in Iraq |
02 Mar 2006 02:04:49 PM |
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Malachias invictus wrote:
Oh, and Iraq's legal oil exports are actually lower
now than they were before the marvellous "liberation".
Thanks to your ***** insurgent heroes blowing up oil facilities.
An insurgent is someone who revolts against established authority.
Fighting
an invader/occupier does not really qualify, no matter how much you
wish it
to be so. If someone invaded *my* country to plunder a resource, I
would do
what I could to prevent them from using it. I am unsurprised that some
Iraqis feel the same way. Of course, spite and anger against those who
have
harmed one's friends and family is also a reasonable motivation.
Hi, all,
Further fueling the need to blow-up the pipelines to preserve
the oil that belongs to the Iraqis, not some else, is the fact that
Halliburton was found to be pumping oil from lines that had NO Meters,
therefore getting the oil for free. Stealing my oil like that would
***** me off too! And, I'd too find a way to stop the theft of my
resources.
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