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NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
God's Numbers
The latest NEWSWEEK poll shows that 91 percent of American
adults surveyed believe in God -- and nearly half reject the
theory of evolution. Also, Americans on John Edwards and the
Senate's goal for troop withdrawal
By Brian Braiker
Newsweek
Updated: 9:04 a.m. HT March 31, 2007
March 30, 2007 - A belief in God and an identification with
an organized religion are widespread throughout the
country, according to the latest NEWSWEEK poll. Nine in 10
(91 percent) of American adults say they believe in God and
almost as many (87 percent) say they identify with a
specific religion. Christians far outnumber members of any
other faith in the country, with 82 percent of the poll's
respondents identifying themselves as such. Another 5
percent say they follow a non-Christian faith, such as
Judaism or Islam. Nearly half (48 percent) of the public
rejects the scientific theory of evolution; one-third (34
percent) of college graduates say they accept the Biblical
account of creation as fact. Seventy-three percent of
Evangelical Protestants say they believe that God created
humans in their present form within the last 10,000 years;
39 percent of non-Evangelical Protestants and 41 percent of
Catholics agree with that view.
Although one in ten (10 percent) of Americans identify
themselves as having "no religion," only six percent said
they don't believe in a God at all. Just 3 percent of the
public self-identifies as atheist, suggesting that the term
may carry some stigma. Still, the poll suggests that the
public's tolerance of this small minority has increased in
recent years. Nearly half (47 percent) of the respondents
felt the country is more accepting of atheists today that
it used to be and slightly more (49 percent) reported
personally knowing an atheist. Those numbers are higher
among respondents under 30 years old, 62 percent of whom
report knowing an atheist (compared to just 43 percent of
those 50 and older). Sixty-one percent of the under-30
cohort view society as more accepting of atheists (compared
to 40 percent of the Americans 50 and older).
Still, it is unlikely that a political candidate would
serve him or herself well by declaring their atheism. Six
in ten (62 percent) registered voters say they would not
vote for a candidate who is an atheist. Majorities of each
major party -- 78 percent of Repulicans and 60 percent of
Democrats -- rule out such an option. Just under half (45
percent) of registered independents would not vote for an
atheist. Still more than a third (36 percent) of Americans
think the influence of organized religion on American
politics has increased in recent years. But the public is
still split over whether religion has too much (32 percent)
or too little (31 percent) influence on American politics.
Democrats tend to fall in the "too much" camp (42 percent
of them, as opposed to 29 percent who see too little
influence) as Republicans take the opposite view (42
percent too little; 14 percent too much). In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
The NEWSWEEK poll also asked respondents about recent
developments in national politics. This week the Senate
joined the U.S. House of Representatives in passing
legislation along party lines that included a "goal" for
troop withdrawal by next March. A majority (57 percent) of
Americans support the legislation. The president's approval
ratings remain at just 33 percent, up just three points
from his all-time low in the NEWSWEEK poll earlier this
month.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17435176/site/newsweek/
Two-thirds (66 percent) of the respondents were
dissatisfied with the direction the country is headed in
and Bush's rating for his handling of the war in Iraq (28
percent) continues to be lower than his handling of
terrorism (45 percent) and the economy (41 percent).
Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, who
recently announced that his wife's cancer has returned, is
a popular figure, with 41 percent of Americans saying they
have a generally favorable view of him (27 percent have an
unfavorable view). And most (56 percent) think the former
senator should remain in the race despite his wife's
medical situation. Very few (12 percent) suspect that he is
using Elizabeth's illness to his political advantage.
Seventy-two percent feel that staying in the race was
something the Edwards family genuinely saw as the right
thing to do and half (51 percent) think it will put Edwards
more in touch with the concerns of average Americans (41
percent don't). Indeed, just 11 percent of Americans think
his wife's health would be enough of a distraction to keep
Edwards from his duties were he to be elected next year (64
percent think her illness would be at least "somewhat"
distracting).
The poll also found limited voter demand for former Vice
President Al Gore to toss his hat into the ring. Despite a
spate of publicity around his involvement in the Academy
Award-winning documentary "An Inconvenient Truth," only a
third (33 percent) of registered voters want to see him run
again while a majority (56 percent) would not. Still, about
half (49 percent) say there is at least some chance they
would vote for Gore if he were on the ballot next year (a
quarter, 24 percent, say there would be a "good chance" he
would get their vote). Nearly half of registered Democrats
(47 percent) want him to run, 39 percent do not and 14
percent are undecided.
The NEWSWEEK Poll, conducted March 28-March 29, has a
margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points for
questions based on all registered voters and plus or minus
6 percentage points for results based on registered
Republicans and Republican leaners. In conducting the poll,
Princeton Survey Research Associates International
interviewed 1,004 adults aged 18 and older.
Related Link
NEWSWEEK Poll: March 31, 2007
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17875540/site/newsweek/
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| User: "Martin Phipps" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 08:56:58 PM |
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On Apr 6, 8:26 am, use...@mantra.comnuTV25 and/or www.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Martin
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05 Apr 2007 10:35:01 PM |
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On Apr 5, 6:56=EF=BF=BDpm, "Martin Phipps" <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 6, 8:26 am, use...@mantra.comnuTV25 and/orwww.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. =A0It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Martin
I have never met any moral theist person. Who has? Who cares what 90%
of people think. It only proves 90% of humans are less evolved than
other 10%.
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| User: "M. Ranjit Mathews" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 09:14:59 PM |
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On Apr 5, 8:56 pm, "Martin Phipps" <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 6, 8:26 am, use...@mantra.comnuTV25 and/orwww.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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05 Apr 2007 11:28:05 PM |
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M. Ranjit Mathews <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
What a stupid fucking question. Of course not, for one simple reason.
I'll let George Bernard Shaw explain: "No man ever believes that the
Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he
means."
Is that clear enough for you?
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| User: "harmony" |
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06 Apr 2007 12:36:18 PM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw48rs.crc2941y750jqN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
M. Ranjit Mathews <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
What a stupid fucking question. Of course not, for one simple reason.
I'll let George Bernard Shaw explain: "No man ever believes that the
Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he
means."
Is that clear enough for you?
did it gbs say that bible is word of god?
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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06 Apr 2007 12:52:15 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw48rs.crc2941y750jqN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
M. Ranjit Mathews <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
What a stupid fucking question. Of course not, for one simple reason.
I'll let George Bernard Shaw explain: "No man ever believes that the
Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he
means."
Is that clear enough for you?
did it gbs say that bible is word of god?
Huh? Not sure what your question was, but the point is that anyone who
claims to know what God wants generally is using God as a surrogate for
what THEY want. It doesn't matter if it's the Bible, the Koran, or
someone speaking in tongues.
That doesn't constitute a moral code, it's simply a technique for doing
what you want to do in the first place, but are unwilling to take
responsibility for. People who claim their morality comes from God have
no morality. True morality only comes from oneself.
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| User: "harmony" |
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06 Apr 2007 03:05:13 PM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw48rs.crc2941y750jqN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
M. Ranjit Mathews <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com> wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to
whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
What a stupid fucking question. Of course not, for one simple reason.
I'll let George Bernard Shaw explain: "No man ever believes that the
Bible means what it says; he is always convinced that it says what he
means."
Is that clear enough for you?
did it gbs say that bible is word of god?
Huh? Not sure what your question was, but the point is that anyone who
claims to know what God wants generally is using God as a surrogate for
what THEY want.
well, the preachers in the church and on the tv do that for a living.
what do you make of that?
It doesn't matter if it's the Bible, the Koran, or
someone speaking in tongues.
That doesn't constitute a moral code, it's simply a technique for doing
what you want to do in the first place, but are unwilling to take
responsibility for. People who claim their morality comes from God have
no morality. True morality only comes from oneself.
what influence do you think religion plays in morality of a person. there
are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity usa wold be
a jungle.
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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06 Apr 2007 08:46:12 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity usa
wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
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| User: "harmony" |
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07 Apr 2007 11:43:24 AM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa
wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining the
civilization?
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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07 Apr 2007 12:19:15 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
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| User: "harmony" |
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07 Apr 2007 07:08:14 PM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea that "all men
are created equal by their creator....."
you this idea came from outside the bible? do you really believe persuit of
happiness would be possible without bible? even the man best known for
persuit of happiness, playboy heffener, admits to being a good christian.
all republicans say that usa was founded on jedeo-christian systems, and
they always win.
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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07 Apr 2007 08:55:07 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
do you really believe persuit of happiness would be possible without
bible?
Yes I do. What a ridiculous idea.
even the man best known for persuit of happiness, playboy heffener, admits
to being a good christian.
Even if true, that doesn't support your ridiculous claim.
all republicans say that usa was founded on jedeo-christian systems, and
they always win.
Then why are you such a loser?
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| User: "JessHC" |
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10 Apr 2007 11:50:32 AM |
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harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea that "all men
are created equal by their creator....."
Please point out where in the bible it says any such thing.
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| User: "harmony" |
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13 Apr 2007 11:19:04 AM |
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"JessHC" <jesshc@phantomemail.com> wrote in message
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harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without
chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have
been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for
sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out
with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea that "all
men
are created equal by their creator....."
Please point out where in the bible it says any such thing.
and then what? do you promise to convert to kirastanism if i point it out?
would you then be ready to receive jesus as your savior?
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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07 Apr 2007 08:27:18 PM |
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harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea
Stop right there. You're mistaken. The United States was NOT founded
on any Christian ideas. The ideas that the United States was founded on
pre-dates Christianity.
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* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
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* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
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| User: "harmony" |
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07 Apr 2007 08:05:11 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
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harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea
Stop right there. You're mistaken. The United States was NOT founded on
any Christian ideas. The ideas that the United States was founded on
pre-dates Christianity.
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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07 Apr 2007 08:55:08 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
Do you think anyone here gives a ***** about whether you go to church or
not? Grow up...
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| User: "harmony" |
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09 Apr 2007 01:12:08 PM |
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"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw7r34.3llie246c8dyN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
Do you think anyone here gives a ***** about whether you go to church or
not? Grow up...
admit it, you don't know what you talkin about. one more chance: was it or
was it not a pagan idea that usa was founded on?
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
10 Apr 2007 08:05:36 AM |
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"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ylvSh.51995$Ng1.42215@newsfe19.lga...
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw7r34.3llie246c8dyN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
Do you think anyone here gives a ***** about whether you go to church or
not? Grow up...
admit it, you don't know what you talkin about. one more chance: was it or
was it not a pagan idea that usa was founded on?
Who cares?
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "harmony" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
10 Apr 2007 11:32:02 AM |
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"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:581gd6F2cmooqU1@mid.individual.net...
"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ylvSh.51995$Ng1.42215@newsfe19.lga...
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw7r34.3llie246c8dyN%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
Do you think anyone here gives a ***** about whether you go to church or
not? Grow up...
admit it, you don't know what you talkin about. one more chance: was it
or was it not a pagan idea that usa was founded on?
Who cares?
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those who vote republican, apparently. i have heard liberal republicans and
conservatives alike say to their hearts' content in their campaign speeches
to the warm applause of their voters as to what this nation is founded on.
so, it is a real issue. the opponents lose out if they don't explain what
ideology shaped u.s. constitution.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
09 Apr 2007 07:33:58 PM |
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harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
you mean the pagan heathen ideas? if you convince me i will not go to
church.
Do you think anyone here gives a ***** about whether you go to church or
not? Grow up...
admit it, you don't know what you talkin about. one more chance: was it or
was it not a pagan idea that usa was founded on?
No, it was not founded on "pagan ideas" (whatever that's supposed to
mean), just as it was not founded as a Christian nation. More than this,
I have no interest in discussing American history with you. Goodbye.
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
07 Apr 2007 09:39:28 PM |
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harmony wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:cumdncL2VetPq4XbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have been
any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for sustaining
the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea
Stop right there. You're mistaken. The United States was NOT founded on
any Christian ideas. The ideas that the United States was founded on
pre-dates Christianity.
you mean the pagan heathen ideas?
No.
But, continue to celebrate the Pagan holiday known now as Easter. :-)
--
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
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| User: "harmony" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
09 Apr 2007 01:07:46 PM |
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"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:ULOdnSPMvpYn2oXbnZ2dnUVZ_sPinZ2d@comcast.com...
harmony wrote:
"DanielSan" <daniel-san@myrealbox.com> wrote in message
news:cumdncL2VetPq4XbnZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@comcast.com...
harmony wrote:
"Scott Richter" <scottrichter422@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1hw731u.3s990hde2d4N%scottrichter422@yahoo.com...
harmony <aka@hotmail.com> wrote:
there are those, like bill benette, who argue that without
chrstianity
usa wold be a jungle.
And there are those who argue that Bill Bennett is a horse's ***** (or
more precisely, a horse's ***** with a gambling problem...)
i just bought something at a store with a paper that wouldn't have
been any
good without "in god we trust" written on it. how is that for
sustaining the
civilization?
Oh brother, I guess I'm speaking to another horse's *****...
Here's a tip, Sparky. The seller wasn't interested in the "in god we
trust" part of the money you gave them. If you had crossed that out
with
a pen, the money would have been just as good. God doesn't make the
money worth something, the US Government does.
But you knew that... Didn't you?
jesus. u.s. nation and govt were founded on the christian idea
Stop right there. You're mistaken. The United States was NOT founded on
any Christian ideas. The ideas that the United States was founded on
pre-dates Christianity.
you mean the pagan heathen ideas?
No.
no??!! then, what idea that predates christianity was usa founded on (as
claimed above)?
there is no dominant religious system other than paganism that predates
christianity.
But, continue to celebrate the Pagan holiday known now as Easter. :-)
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
*----------------------------------------------------*
* The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of *
* reason: The Morning Daylight appears plainer *
* when you put out your Candle." --Benjamin Franklin *
* Poor Richard's Almanack (1758) *
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was bf a pagan or christian?
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 10:47:01 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com>
bloodied us up with this:
On Apr 5, 8:56 pm, "Martin Phipps" <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 6, 8:26 am, use...@mantra.comnuTV25 and/orwww.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Rules:
1. If God wants it done, it is right.
2. If you don't want to do it because it doesn't seem right, consult
rule 1.
Do 1 & 2 not add up to a moral code?
They do not.
If you can't behave yourself in public without the threat of punishment or
the promise of reward, you are not a moral person.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack. Plonked by Fester.
Member Duke Spanking Club.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 09:12:54 PM |
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On Apr 5, 9:56 pm, "Martin Phipps" <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Apr 6, 8:26 am, use...@mantra.comnuTV25 and/orwww.mantra.com/jai
(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote:
In the poll, 68
percent of respondents said they believed someone could be
moral and an atheist, compared to 26 percent who said it
was not possible.
People can be moral and atheist. It is an open question as to whether
people can be moral and theist though.
Martin
Little sweet old lady called the house saying she was doing a national
survey on abortion rights. Asked if I was in favor of abortion rights.
I trustingly said yes. Murder was the next word out of her mouth, it
was one of the nicer things she called me.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 08:12:11 PM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 01:26:38 +0000, usenet wrote:
91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD
And when more than 90% of the world's population believed the world was
flat, was it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "and/or www.mantra.com/jai Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
05 Apr 2007 09:55:53 PM |
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In article <pan.2007.04.06.01.12.10.856980@com.mkbilbo>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> posted:
And when more than 90% of the world's population believed the world was
flat, was it?
What is the evidence of the above claim (that "90% of the world's
population believed the world was flat")?
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/yhjyp5
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
06 Apr 2007 12:05:45 AM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:55:53 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <pan.2007.04.06.01.12.10.856980@com.mkbilbo>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> posted:
And when more than 90% of the world's population believed the world was
flat, was it?
What is the evidence of the above claim (that "90% of the world's
population believed the world was flat")?
What is the evidence supporting the claim that "god" exists?
Or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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| User: "and/or www.mantra.com/jai Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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12 Apr 2007 12:05:57 AM |
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In article <pan.2007.04.06.05.05.43@exit.com>,
Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> posted:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:55:53 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <pan.2007.04.06.01.12.10.856980@com.mkbilbo>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> posted:
And when more than 90% of the world's population believed the world was
flat, was it?
What is the evidence of the above claim (that "90% of the world's
population believed the world was flat")?
What is the evidence supporting the claim that "god" exists?
One notes that my question was not answered.
As to Frank Mayhar's question ("What is the evidence
supporting the claim that 'god' exists), he'd have to ask
a Judeo-Christian-Islamic person because it is their
concept ("object of worship in monotheistic religions").
Jai Maharaj
http://tinyurl.com/yhjyp5
http://www.mantra.com/jai
http://www.mantra.com/jyotish
Om Shanti
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: NEWSWEEK - 91 PERCENT OF AMERICAN ADULTS BELIEVE IN GOD |
12 Apr 2007 12:20:11 AM |
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 05:05:57 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <pan.2007.04.06.05.05.43@exit.com>,
Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> posted:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 02:55:53 +0000, Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
In article <pan.2007.04.06.01.12.10.856980@com.mkbilbo>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> posted:
And when more than 90% of the world's population believed the world
was flat, was it?
What is the evidence of the above claim (that "90% of the world's
population believed the world was flat")?
What is the evidence supporting the claim that "god" exists?
One notes that my question was not answered. As to Frank Mayhar's
question ("What is the evidence supporting the claim that 'god' exists),
he'd have to ask a Judeo-Christian-Islamic person because it is their
concept ("object of worship in monotheistic religions").
Okay, how about "what is the evidence that _any_ 'god' (or any other so-
called 'supernatural being') exists?"
Or are you going to ignore this one as well?
--
Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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