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Religions > Atheism |
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"Jason Spaceman" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:05:09 PM |
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Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
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Read it at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6884904/site/newsweek/
J. Spaceman
--
My email address (notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org) is fake. Email sent to it
will only get caught in my spam tarpit.
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| User: "Dana Tweedy" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 04:59:52 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:FZWdnSB3VsvudGHcRVn-qg@rogers.com...
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out
from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street
and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
What's ironic about this passage is that the UCC is a denomination that
supports teaching evolutionary theory in schools. It's not a fundmentalist
denomination. My father was a UCC minister, and he never opposed evolution.
DJT
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 02:06:29 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:59:52 GMT, "Dana Tweedy" <reddfrogg@nospam.net>
said in alt.atheism:
What's ironic about this passage is that the UCC is a denomination that
supports teaching evolutionary theory in schools. It's not a fundmentalist
denomination. My father was a UCC minister, and he never opposed evolution.
"The apparent contradiction between that message and the one he hopes
someday to spread as a Christian missionary ..."
He evidently doesn't know the religion he wants to teach very well.
Or the reporter doesn't.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "John Vreeland" |
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30 Jan 2005 02:35:28 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 02:45:08 PM |
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John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
Seppo P.
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| User: "sanguinevikings" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 03:33:46 PM |
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"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:364a7kF4qqp3bU1@individual.net...
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks
out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making
of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved
over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
He was lucky. We had our bioligy lessons in a paper bag in a skeptic tank!
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| User: "TeaWrecks" |
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31 Jan 2005 08:28:43 AM |
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"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:-u2dnXcps_b9Y2HcRVnyiA@brightview.com...
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
He was lucky. We had our bioligy lessons in a paper bag in a skeptic tank!
Luxury. We used to get up at ten o'clock at night half an hour before we
went to bed, drink a cup of sufuric acid, AND pay the schoolmaster for
permission to learn evolution. And when we got home, out mom and dad would
kill us and dance about on our grave singin' alleluia...
And you just try and tell the Young Earth Creationists today that, and they
wont believe you, nope they won't...
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| User: "Anthony David" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 04:15:36 PM |
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TeaWrecks wrote:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:-u2dnXcps_b9Y2HcRVnyiA@brightview.com...
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
He was lucky. We had our bioligy lessons in a paper bag in a skeptic tank!
Luxury. We used to get up at ten o'clock at night half an hour before we
went to bed, drink a cup of sufuric acid, AND pay the schoolmaster for
permission to learn evolution. And when we got home, out mom and dad would
kill us and dance about on our grave singin' alleluia...
And you just try and tell the Young Earth Creationists today that, and they
wont believe you, nope they won't...
A friend of mine can recite "The Four Yorkshiremen Skit", from which the
above is lifted, with all the accents. Jealous? Me? He and his
University flatmates had LPs they would play regualarly.
--
"Abandon Shop. This is not a Daffodil" Red Dwarf
http://adavid.com.au/
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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31 Jan 2005 09:56:11 PM |
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Anthony David <adavid@adavid.com.au> wrote:
TeaWrecks wrote:
"sanguinevikings" <spam@spam.not> wrote in message
news:-u2dnXcps_b9Y2HcRVnyiA@brightview.com...
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
He was lucky. We had our bioligy lessons in a paper bag in a skeptic tank!
Luxury. We used to get up at ten o'clock at night half an hour before we
went to bed, drink a cup of sufuric acid, AND pay the schoolmaster for
permission to learn evolution. And when we got home, out mom and dad would
kill us and dance about on our grave singin' alleluia...
And you just try and tell the Young Earth Creationists today that, and they
wont believe you, nope they won't...
A friend of mine can recite "The Four Yorkshiremen Skit", from which the
above is lifted, with all the accents. Jealous? Me? He and his
University flatmates had LPs they would play regualarly.
Oh, aye, Jebediah.
--
John S. Wilkins AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
And John said, "Let there be lunch", and there was lunch.
And John tasted that it was good.
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 03:49:00 PM |
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sanguinevikings wrote:
"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:364a7kF4qqp3bU1@individual.net...
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks
out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making
of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved
over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
He was lucky. We had our bioligy lessons in a paper bag in a skeptic tank!
At least you had a tank full of skeptics!
Seppo P.
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 04:41:26 PM |
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Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 05:09:09 PM |
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John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Seppo P.
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| User: "Ian H Spedding" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 07:23:37 PM |
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"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:364iljF4rdi6oU1@individual.net...
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the
making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind
of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
"The Life of Brian"? (Blessed be the gourd)
Ian
--
Ian H Spedding
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 03:04:49 AM |
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"Ian H Spedding" <harry@spedding53.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
news:ctjc7v$bek$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:364iljF4rdi6oU1@individual.net...
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across
the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the
making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an
unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution
by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What
kind
of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had
to go to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to
chapel. And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the
middle of the road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
"The Life of Brian"? (Blessed be the gourd)
Ian
Cast off your shoe. We must gather shoes.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Science rationally modifies a theory to fit evidence, creationism
emotionally modifies evidence to fit the bible.
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| User: "Danny Kodicek" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 07:32:42 PM |
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"Ian H Spedding" <harry@spedding53.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ctjc7v$bek$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
"Seppo Pietikainen" <s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote in message
news:364iljF4rdi6oU1@individual.net...
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the
making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an
unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What
kind
of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to
go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
"The Life of Brian"? (Blessed be the gourd)
Heretic! The shoe!
Danny
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| User: "John Vreeland" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 06:36:38 PM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
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| User: "Danny Kodicek" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 07:16:30 PM |
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"John Vreeland" <vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f7aqv0l88vj7dl5lvnmj0fe1ikfrh7e1ue@4ax.com...
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the
making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken
line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind
of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
You did - it's a continuation of the Monty Python refs. Think Life of Brian.
Danny
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 10:41:56 PM |
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John Vreeland <vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
....
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
You lucky, lucky *****. I had to wai three years before a Roman would
spit on me. Wonderful people, the Romans. Taught me a lot about
discipline.
--
John S. Wilkins AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
And John said, "Let there be lunch", and there was lunch.
And John tasted that it was good.
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| User: "Alan Jeffery" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 11:43:34 PM |
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"John Wilkins" <johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au> wrote in message
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John Vreeland <vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
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We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to
go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of
the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever
existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
You lucky, lucky *****. I had to wai three years before a Roman would
spit on me. Wonderful people, the Romans. Taught me a lot about
discipline.
You bother remembering those lines? Sheesh Wilkins, get a life. Or perhaps
just move to QL where your humour will not be appreciated - unless you say
it vvveeerrryyy slowly.
Alan Jeffery
--
John S. Wilkins AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
And John said, "Let there be lunch", and there was lunch.
And John tasted that it was good.
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 11:59:34 PM |
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Alan Jeffery <observa_no_spam@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
"John Wilkins" <johnSPAM@wilkins.id.au> wrote in message
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John Vreeland <vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
...
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to
go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of
the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever
existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
You lucky, lucky *****. I had to wai three years before a Roman would
spit on me. Wonderful people, the Romans. Taught me a lot about
discipline.
You bother remembering those lines? Sheesh Wilkins, get a life. Or perhaps
just move to QL where your humour will not be appreciated - unless you say
it vvveeerrryyy slowly.
I simply reprogrammed the neural nets that are used to store 1960s pop
lyrics...
--
John S. Wilkins AA#2207
web: www.wilkins.id.au blog: evolvethought.blogspot.com
And John said, "Let there be lunch", and there was lunch.
And John tasted that it was good.
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 03:09:22 AM |
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(John Wilkins) wrote in
news:1gr8y43.wxh8bo1skirm3N%:
John Vreeland <vreejack@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
...
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had
to go to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to
chapel. And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the
middle of the road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever
existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
You lucky, lucky *****. I had to wai three years before a Roman
would spit on me. Wonderful people, the Romans. Taught me a lot about
discipline.
You lucky bastards, you lucky jabby bastards.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Science rationally modifies a theory to fit evidence, creationism
emotionally modifies evidence to fit the bible.
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| User: "Seppo Pietikainen" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 08:59:48 AM |
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John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
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We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
Well, I interpret it so that John had it even worse and is just
being jealous to us well heeled :)
Seppo P.
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| User: "John Harshman" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 07:22:13 PM |
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John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Doesn't anyone around here know Life of Brian? Sad. It's a scene in
which Michael Palin is an old prisoner listening to Brian's complaints
of ill treatment.
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| User: "Alan Jeffery" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
30 Jan 2005 08:26:26 PM |
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"John Harshman" <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the
street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from
childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the
making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an
unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent
contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a
Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by
natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What
kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of
exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to
go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Doesn't anyone around here know Life of Brian? Sad. It's a scene in
which Michael Palin is an old prisoner listening to Brian's complaints
of ill treatment.
You cheated. Switching contexts is _not_ fair.
Alan (who knows the LofB well and also didn't get it) Jeffery
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| User: "Gary Bohn" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 02:56:06 AM |
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John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:FtaLd.9206$8Z1.5081@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from his high school, he can see the United Church of
Christ across the street and the hills beyond it, reminding him
of what he's been taught from childhood: that God's perfect
creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over millions of years from a series of predecessor
species in an unbroken line of descent stretching back to the
origins of life. The apparent contradiction between that message
and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian missionary
doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What
kind of Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90
minutes of exposure to Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had
to go to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to
chapel. And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the
middle of the road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Doesn't anyone around here know Life of Brian? Sad. It's a scene in
which Michael Palin is an old prisoner listening to Brian's complaints
of ill treatment.
Forgive them John for they know not what they say. AA is rife with
unbelievers in the life of Brian, but I, a true believer, have his holy
shoe which I shall worship.
--
apatriot #23, aa #1779, Grand Poobah, EAC Department of Oxygen
Deprivation
Responsible for brain damage everywhere!
Gary Bohn
Science rationally modifies a theory to fit evidence, creationism
emotionally modifies evidence to fit the bible.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 12:00:16 PM |
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"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95EF7A47744A6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
John Harshman <jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:FtaLd.9206$8Z1.5081@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa.,
looks out from his high school, he can see the United Church of
Christ across the street and the hills beyond it, reminding him
of what he's been taught from childhood: that God's perfect
creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens
evolved over millions of years from a series of predecessor
species in an unbroken line of descent stretching back to the
origins of life. The apparent contradiction between that message
and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian missionary
doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What
kind of Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90
minutes of exposure to Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had
to go to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to
chapel. And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the
middle of the road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Doesn't anyone around here know Life of Brian? Sad. It's a scene in
which Michael Palin is an old prisoner listening to Brian's complaints
of ill treatment.
Forgive them John for they know not what they say. AA is rife with
unbelievers in the life of Brian, but I, a true believer, have his holy
shoe which I shall worship.
Heretic! Follow the gourd!
--
---------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 12:32:25 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 07:00:16 -0500 in alt.atheism, Robibnikoff
("Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>) said, directing the reply
to alt.atheism
"Gary Bohn" <garybohn@REMOVETHISaccesscomm.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns95EF7A47744A6GaryBohn@130.133.1.4...
[snip]
Forgive them John for they know not what they say. AA is rife with
unbelievers in the life of Brian, but I, a true believer, have his holy
shoe which I shall worship.
Heretic! Follow the gourd!
And what of the little raffia work things that were there only a
moment ago?
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| User: "John Vreeland" |
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| Title: Re: Newsweek article: Doubting Darwin |
31 Jan 2005 04:25:48 AM |
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:22:13 GMT, John Harshman
<jharshman.diespamdie@pacbell.net> wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 19:09:09 +0200, Seppo Pietikainen
<s.pietikainen@kolumbus.fi> wrote:
John Harshman wrote:
Seppo Pietikainen wrote:
John Vreeland wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:05:09 -0500, Jason Spaceman
<notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
-------------------------------------
Feb. 7 issue - When Joshua Rowand, an 11th grader in Dover, pa., looks out from
his high school, he can see the United Church of Christ across the street and
the hills beyond it, reminding him of what he's been taught from childhood:
that God's perfect creation culminated on the sixth day with the making of man
in his image. Inside the school, he is taught that Homo sapiens evolved over
millions of years from a series of predecessor species in an unbroken line of
descent stretching back to the origins of life. The apparent contradiction
between that message and the one he hopes someday to spread as a Christian
missionary doesn't trouble him. The entire subject of evolution by natural
selection is covered in two lessons in high-school biology. What kind of
Christian would he be if his faith couldn't survive 90 minutes of exposure to
Darwin?
-------------------------------------
We used to dream of getting ninety minutes of evolution. We had to go
to religious training for an hour a day, and once a week to chapel.
And we held or biology classes ina cardboard box in the middle of the
road.
You had cardboard boxes? Wow...
The Romans must think the sun shines out of your *****.
Huh?
Yeah, me too. I keep reading it and wondering if I missed something.
Um, The Emperor has no clothes!
Doesn't anyone around here know Life of Brian? Sad. It's a scene in
which Michael Palin is an old prisoner listening to Brian's complaints
of ill treatment.
Shut up, you!
Jack V (Vreejack)
"Will future ages believe that such stupid bigotry ever existed!"--_Ivanhoe_
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