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Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
By Dave Caddell
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in a
unanimous decision ruled that parents do not have a constitutional right to
be the exclusive provider of information regarding sexual matters to their
children.
As part of an effort to identify psychological barriers to learning, the
Palmdale, California School District conducted a survey of its students
ranging in age from seven to ten. Prior to administering the survey, the
school district sent a letter to parents requesting their consent to survey
their child and to inform them of the survey’s nature and purpose. The
letter further explained that the questions their children would be
answering dealt with “early trauma (for example, violence)” and included a
warning that “answering questions may make the child feel uncomfortable.”
The survey consisted of 79 questions intended to test how often the
students experienced a variety of sensations, emotions, thoughts and
experiences. The students were asked to rank their responses to the
activities according to a scale that ranged from “never” to “almost all the
time.” Many of the activities questioned on the survey dealt with emotions
that are typically associated with young children, such as “Bad dreams or
nightmares,” “Wanting to yell at people” and “Can’t stop thinking about
something bad that happened to me.” But unknown to the parents, the survey
also asked the students to consider activities related to sexual sensations
and activities, such as “Thinking about having sex,” “Thinking about
touching other peoples’ private parts,” “Can’t stop thinking about sex” and
“Not trusting people because they might want sex.”
After learning about the nature of the survey from their children, a group
of parents filed suit against the Palmdale School District in Federal
District Court. They claimed that by requiring their children to respond to
questions that were inconsistent with their personal and religious values,
the school district “robbed” them of their basic constitutional right to
control the upbringing of their children.
The school district, however, asserted that there is no constitutional
right of parents to control the upbringing of their children by introducing
them to matters relating to sex in accordance with their personal and
religious values. Furthermore, they claimed that their responsibility to
educate students exceeds providing them with the basic skills of reading,
writing and arithmetic. According to the school district, today’s public
schools must also insure that students become healthy, productive and
responsible members of society. This responsibility, they argued, includes
providing students with information relating to sex.
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| Title: Re: Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
13 Nov 2005 07:35:00 PM |
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<buckeye-ELO@nospam.net> wrote in message
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http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
If my sex education was left solely to my parents Id know pretty much
nothing and they aren't particularily conservative either.
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14 Nov 2005 01:39:11 AM |
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:35:00 -0600, kathryn wrote:
<buckeye-ELO@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:oi2fn1p5vbh9l874dpalge55kpptlflpms@4ax.com...
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
If my sex education was left solely to my parents Id know pretty much
nothing and they aren't particularily conservative either.
My parents left the appropriate books in conspicuous places. That
actually worked pretty well.
Most of my fellow junior high students learned the most from our
fellow students.
Fer instance: "Don't put your tongue in your girlfriend's mouth
because, then, she'll get pregnant."
Or - as one of the Catholic girls said, "Oh, sure, I use birth
control. After I marry, then, I can't use it anymore."
Gray Shockley
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Truth is stranger than fact.
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| User: "Secret Squirrel" |
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14 Nov 2005 05:58:55 PM |
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Gray Shockley <grayshockley@gmail.com> wrote in
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On Sun, 13 Nov 2005 13:35:00 -0600, kathryn wrote:
<buckeye-ELO@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:oi2fn1p5vbh9l874dpalge55kpptlflpms@4ax.com...
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?a
rticle_id=126 [excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to
Exclusively Teach Children About Sex
If my sex education was left solely to my parents Id know
pretty much nothing and they aren't particularily
conservative either.
My parents left the appropriate books in conspicuous
places. That actually worked pretty well.
Most of my fellow junior high students learned the most
from our fellow students.
Fer instance: "Don't put your tongue in your girlfriend's
mouth because, then, she'll get pregnant."
Or - as one of the Catholic girls said, "Oh, sure, I use
birth control. After I marry, then, I can't use it
anymore."
Heh. My upbringing included the advice of "don't ever let
another guy give you a *****, 'cause then you'll be a 'queer'.
(This was from two boys who were having anal sex together!!
One of them today is heterosexual and married. Mewhile, goody
me did nothing, and see how I turned out?)
Secret Squirrel
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| Title: Re: Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
13 Nov 2005 11:00:21 PM |
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kathryn wrote:
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
If my sex education was left solely to my parents Id know pretty much
nothing and they aren't particularily conservative either.
I can see it already:
Mom: Katie, dear, your father and I LOVE SEX. GOD, I can't stop
mounting your dad, he's a BEAST!
That's when you seek counseling.
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| User: "Jim E" |
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| Title: Re: Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
14 Nov 2005 12:51:40 AM |
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<man_in_black529@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1131922821.240105.198650@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
kathryn wrote:
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
If my sex education was left solely to my parents Id know pretty much
nothing and they aren't particularily conservative either.
I can see it already:
Mom: Katie, dear, your father and I LOVE SEX. GOD, I can't stop
mounting your dad, he's a BEAST!
That's when you seek counseling.
They could have demonstrated.
ick
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| User: "fred" |
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| Title: Re: Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
13 Nov 2005 07:15:54 PM |
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buckeye-ELO@nospam.net wrote:
http://www.rutherford.org/articles_db/legal_features.asp?article_id=126
[excerpt]
11/8/2005
Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach
Children About Sex
By Dave Caddell
On Wednesday, November 2, 2005, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals in a
unanimous decision ruled that parents do not have a constitutional right to
be the exclusive provider of information regarding sexual matters to their
children.
"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts
- not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who
pervert the Constitution." -- Abraham Lincoln; Political Debates
Between Lincoln and Douglas. 1897
<snipped for brevity>
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| Title: Re: Ninth Circuit: No Constitutional Right for Parents to Exclusively Teach Children About Sex |
14 Nov 2005 03:26:53 AM |
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On 13 Nov 2005 11:15:54 -0800, "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
"We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts
- not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who
pervert the Constitution."
Exactly why we want to keep conservatives off the bench
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