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The following message which pertains to the use of remailers to make
posts
in someone else's name is self-explanatory:

Carol do you feel a NEED to post it 20 times for emphasis??????

If the message in question had nothing to do with you, why is this a
concern for you?

Davey are you taking a break from harassing my wife via e-mail tonight, or
did you just find out that that account is now disabled?

Gotta wonder why you're so afraid to allow her access to e-mail....afraid
she might learn the truth?

Don't worry, I'll just send a registered letter....and if you intercept it
I'll have you charged with mail fraud :)

Atrocities? LMAOROFL
you demons are all alike. You dont have to say anything about what
you were talking about, we know you. God knows you too. Your time
will come in the pit of fire.

Bring it.

Bring what, your eternal spiritual death? I have no power over that,
only the Heavenly Father has power over that.
Demons cannot be changed, they are minions of Satan.
All you people will know the truth on the last day.

Since your god is a figment of your imagination, and therefore a part of
you, I consider that a direct threat. And I dare you to come through on
it.

ROFL
You losing little human you amaze me with the lack of brain you have.
Your synapses must be shorting out more and more each day with the
strain you are putting on it!

On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, KRP wrote:

What 'seems to be' to you is not often what is reality.

Lawsuits are reality in my world, I don';t know about yours.

I did not suggest that lawsuits were not a reality.

apparently since you support an objection to calling a "Christmas
Tree" a
CHRISTMAS tree and are offended unless they call it a "HOLIDAY tree!

Actually I don't care what YOU call yours or where you put
it, but I could recommend a place.

I am sure you have a place in mind. I bet having to see them REALLY
offends you no end.

I have no problem with holiday trees in the public square. I do have a
problem with folks who scream and hollar when they are called holiday
trees, insisting that they be called *CHRIST*mas trees when many citizens
are excluded by insistance on such terminology.

I recognize that ours is a pluralistic society and that citizens of
many
faiths celebrate the winter holidays in a variety of ways.
Governmental
entities have no business in exclusive terminology.

CHRISTmas is a Federal Holiday,. NOT the "winter event." CHRISTmas!

No one is required to celebrate *CHRIST*mas if they prefer to celebrate
Kwaanza or Chanukkah or the solstice.

Citizens who may want to celebrate the holidays in ways other than Xn
ways
shouldn't be excluded by exclusive terminology, even if you would have
it
that way. Do you want public holiday trees to be called Chanukkah
trees?
Is that OK? Or do you think that Xns would feel excluded?

Ever see a Hannukah bush?

Yes. I have seen several. There is a variety of styles. Some are
actually pine trees--the same pines which Xns decorate and call Xmas
trees.

<< UNLIKE you when I see a Minorah I do not start sweating>>
I don't.

<< and my testicles don't start playing ping pong.
I have as much interest in your testicles as I have in seeing you with a
holiday tree sticking up your butt.

I don't start frothing at the mouth when I hear that a local Wiccan coven
is going into the woods to celebrate nature.>>

Who claimed you did?

<< When a local atheist goes on public access TV and proclaims he doesn't
believe there is a God, I don't panic and run to my

lawyer's office. I'm not offended by your beliefs or lack thereof. I AM
offended that you want to CONTROL - - MY beliefs.

Evidence/data that shows I want to control your beliefs goes here ---->>

UM..... How would it even be possible for one person to control the
beliefs of another person?

<< I don't feel excluded by Jewish celebrations at all. Why? Because I am
often INVITED to them and enjoy their celebrations and - - AND I
"respect" them. As I do my Muslim friends.
How nice. Who suggested you did feel excluded?
What I want to know is this: Have you written your local papers--have you
called your town hall--and asked to call the public holiday tree a
Chanukkah tree?

How about a Solstice tree? Should we call public holiday trees
Solstice
trees to please those who celebrate the Solstice? Would that make you
feel excluded?

We call them Christmas trees becaue that is what they ARE bozo.

You may call your own personal holiday tree a Xmas tree if you like. No
one has suggested that is a problem.

I know that YOU don't like it. (and people like you) When we cut through

the ***** here, what this is REALLY about is your antagonism to
theism, and particularly Christianity.>>
I have no antagonism to theism and/or Xnity unless it is endorsed by
governmental agencies, or if there is an appearance of endorsement.

For pity's sake: Walk a mile in someone else's mocassins, would you?

I have. I respect diverse beliefs.

If you respected diverse beliefs, you wouldn't be crawling up on a soapbox
insisting that holiday trees be called *CHRIST*mas trees.

<< YOU are one of the MOST totally INTOLLERANT people on the planet. Many
atheists are today.
Data which shows intollerance on my part goes here --->>

<<Placing crosses where people have died is somehow "DEPRIVING" you
of

some rights you think you have?>>

That is a figment of your imagination. Not according to American
Atheists and the ACLU.. Their lawsuits say

they are dead serious about it. They just filed ANOTHER lawsuit
against
the State of Utah.

Good for them. Those 12'-tall honkin' huge Latin crosses have no
business on public property.

Now we are cutting through the ***** dishonesty! First you say that
it is a figmnent of my imagination but you are FOR it. Would a SMALL
cross
be okay? Of course not.

On someone's personal grave marker, I don't see a problem. I object to
endorsement or the appearance of endorsement of particular religious
persuasions by governmental entities.

That is not dishonesty. That is not intollerance. It is merely expecting
that governmental entities not endorse religion.

<<Or that singing Christmas carols in school is a death penalty
crime?

That is a figment of your imagination.
Nope the lawsuits are real.

The law suits may be real, but your hyperbole about "death penalty
crime"
is assinine (and a figment of your imagination).

Yeah it is hyperbole.

I thought so.

BUT if you could REALLY get your way, I bet you'd love to see
many laws making it a crime and allowing you to eliminate it.

I don't know what ir is, so how would I know if ir should be made a crime
or should be eliminated.

And if you couldn't get rid of Christianity any other way, make teaching
it
to kids a crime, and jail parents who violated the law. EVEN putting the
to
death. Make ANY mention of God a crime. That's the road YOU are on!

More hyperbole and erroneous assumptions and whacky claims and
allegations.

<< Seems like we know who the ones into religious persecution

are, or at least the wannabe persecutors are.>>

Seems like we know who it is who can't address what was written, but
would rather address what they think was written.

Is it common for these imagined voices to afflict you, Ken?

Not "voices" - - - - lawsuits!

When there are violations, don't be shocked that there are lawsuits.

So putting up a memorial where somebody was killed is a

"VIOLATION" - - hmm "VIOLATION" of what?>>
Putting up a Latin cross on public land is the endorsement of a particular
religion.

<<Some months ago I made reference to crosses in federal cemeteries. I
recall the TOTALLY dishonest denials... Guess what.. Today there are some.
Again in Utah the spokesman for American Atheists has targeted crosses in
Veterans cemeteries.>>
I have no idea of that to which you refer, and you have given no link or
no quotation to make your case.

Until you do, there is nothing to comment on.

It is funny to listen to all the fake ANGRY denials of the REAL agenda
only to see the agenda unfold precisely along the lines predicted.

"History tells us that how much we want to believe a proposition is not a
reliable guide as to whether it is true." -- Steven Pinker