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User: "Fred Stone"
Date: 19 May 2006 04:14:44 PM
Object: Nope, no media bias here, nope nope nope
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/05/useful-idiot-brigade-of-
islamic.html
....let's look at yet another "news" story today. This one from the
Washington Post exclaims, "Afghanistan Rocked As 105 Die in Violence:
Toll Is Among Worst Since 2001 Invasion".
Once again, the invaluable Cori Dauber picks up on the blatant attempt
to mislead and distort by noting that 80-90 of that number just happens
to be the enemy who were killed. She then links to a report by Bill
Roggio at the Counterterrorism Blog who happens to be an embed in
Afghanistan (I am excerpting a large part of Roggio's report because I
know that the lefties who come here wouldn't bother to click on the
link; but I do hope other, more reasonable readers will take the time):
The news reports of a major Taliban offensive in southeastern
Afghanistan are inaccurate, as Coalition offensives and Taliban attacks
have been lumped together to give the impression of a coordinated
Taliban assault in multiple provinces. A reading of the various reports
indicates that while the Taliban has launched a major strike on a police
station and government center in Helmand province and a small scale
attack on a police patrol in Ghazni, as well as two suicide attacks
against U.S. contractors in Herat and an Afghan army base in Ghazni, the
fighting in Kandahar was initiated by Afghan and Coalition security
forces during planned operations. Over 100 have been reported killed
during the fighting, with 87 being Taliban. Well over half of those
killed were killed during the Coalition offensives in Kandahar.
There were two separate major engagements in Kandahar province, and
both were initiated by the Coalition. Coalition forces conducted a raid
and subsequent air strikes against a Taliban safe haven in the village
of Azizi. As many as 27 Taliban are believed to have been killed during
the operation. A joint Canadian and Afghan security force conducted a
sweep in the Panjwai district of Kandahar, and killed 18 Taliban and
captured 26 in the process. One Canadian officer was killed and three
Afghan police were wounded during the operation.
The fighting in Musa Qala in Helmand province is a bonafide major
Taliban attack. The Associated Press reports an "estimated 300-400
militants with assault rifles and machine guns attacked a police and
government headquarters" in Musa Qala. The Afghan police provided
reinforcements to the beleaguered police station, fought off the Taliban
force, reestablished control over the region, and killed 40 Taliban and
took thirteen casualties of their own. Two police patrols were ambushed
in Ghazni, and resulted in the death of two policemen. There is no
evidence the attacks were coordinated. And they certainly weren't
coordinated to occur in conjunction with Coalition operations.
It is important to understand how the fighting was initiated, as the
current reporting is giving the impression of a coordinated Taliban
uprising. This provides the Taliban with a propaganda victory, as their
power is perceived as far greater than it actually is, which can
negatively influence the government and peoples of the Coalition forces
serving in Afghanistan. The narrow passage of the extension of the
Canadian mission in Afghanistan (by a 149-145 vote in Parliament)
illustrates the fragile nature of the support for the mission in some
Western nations.(Empasis mine)
Roggio notes that the entire affair is likely a major victory for the
coalition; especially considering that the Taliban's most senior
commander was captured. But that point is not even mentioned in the Post
story. Nor, of course is the concept of "victory" put forth as we endure
the hand-wringing of the writer who is clearly upset at all that
"violence" going on over there.
Roggion is also absolutely correct when he asserts that the MSM
reporting basically gives the Taliban a "propaganda victory" by making
it seem as if they are coordinated and exacting a heavy toll on hapless
coalition forces. The death toll (which is 80-90% enemy deaths) reported
in that fashion gives the clear impression that somehow the Taliban were
successful in the skirmishes.
This is the reporting we are getting from these "unimpeachable" news
sources, and that the left eat like sweet candy. They just love to savor
the taste and texture of that anti-American; anti-coalition; anti-Bush
propaganda that makes the enemy rejoice--even as they are unequivocally
beaten by the forces of civilization.
This propaganda is absorbed directly into the bloodstream and flows
unimpeded into the brains (and I use the term loosely) of people like
the one I quoted above; who, as you can easily see from his comments,
shares in the jubilation of the enemy forces.
Anyone with any common sense and reason would want to hear the truth--
both the good parts and the bad. But, when the MSM reports are this
misleading and deliberately distort the facts; and when the left eat
those stories up-- then you've got to ask yourself: what kind of sick
motives lie behind such a blatant desire to aid and abet the enemy.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
How can we connect the dots
if we cannot collect the dots?
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
.

User: "Ike Milligan"

Title: Re: Nope, no media bias here, nope nope nope 19 May 2006 08:14:35 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/05/useful-idiot-brigade-of-
islamic.html

...let's look at yet another "news" story today. This one from the
Washington Post exclaims, "Afghanistan Rocked As 105 Die in Violence:
Toll Is Among Worst Since 2001 Invasion".

Once again, the invaluable Cori Dauber picks up on the blatant attempt
to mislead and distort by noting that 80-90 of that number just happens
to be the enemy who were killed. She then links to a report by Bill
Roggio at the Counterterrorism Blog who happens to be an embed in
Afghanistan (I am excerpting a large part of Roggio's report because I
know that the lefties who come here wouldn't bother to click on the
link; but I do hope other, more reasonable readers will take the time):

The news reports of a major Taliban offensive in southeastern
Afghanistan are inaccurate, as Coalition offensives and Taliban attacks
have been lumped together to give the impression of a coordinated
Taliban assault in multiple provinces. A reading of the various reports
indicates that while the Taliban has launched a major strike on a police
station and government center in Helmand province and a small scale
attack on a police patrol in Ghazni, as well as two suicide attacks
against U.S. contractors in Herat and an Afghan army base in Ghazni, the
fighting in Kandahar was initiated by Afghan and Coalition security
forces during planned operations. Over 100 have been reported killed
during the fighting, with 87 being Taliban. Well over half of those
killed were killed during the Coalition offensives in Kandahar.

There were two separate major engagements in Kandahar province, and
both were initiated by the Coalition. Coalition forces conducted a raid
and subsequent air strikes against a Taliban safe haven in the village
of Azizi. As many as 27 Taliban are believed to have been killed during
the operation. A joint Canadian and Afghan security force conducted a
sweep in the Panjwai district of Kandahar, and killed 18 Taliban and
captured 26 in the process. One Canadian officer was killed and three
Afghan police were wounded during the operation.

The fighting in Musa Qala in Helmand province is a bonafide major
Taliban attack. The Associated Press reports an "estimated 300-400
militants with assault rifles and machine guns attacked a police and
government headquarters" in Musa Qala. The Afghan police provided
reinforcements to the beleaguered police station, fought off the Taliban
force, reestablished control over the region, and killed 40 Taliban and
took thirteen casualties of their own. Two police patrols were ambushed
in Ghazni, and resulted in the death of two policemen. There is no
evidence the attacks were coordinated. And they certainly weren't
coordinated to occur in conjunction with Coalition operations.

It is important to understand how the fighting was initiated, as the
current reporting is giving the impression of a coordinated Taliban
uprising. This provides the Taliban with a propaganda victory, as their
power is perceived as far greater than it actually is, which can
negatively influence the government and peoples of the Coalition forces
serving in Afghanistan. The narrow passage of the extension of the
Canadian mission in Afghanistan (by a 149-145 vote in Parliament)
illustrates the fragile nature of the support for the mission in some
Western nations.(Empasis mine)



Roggio notes that the entire affair is likely a major victory for the
coalition; especially considering that the Taliban's most senior
commander was captured. But that point is not even mentioned in the Post
story. Nor, of course is the concept of "victory" put forth as we endure
the hand-wringing of the writer who is clearly upset at all that
"violence" going on over there.

Roggion is also absolutely correct when he asserts that the MSM
reporting basically gives the Taliban a "propaganda victory" by making
it seem as if they are coordinated and exacting a heavy toll on hapless
coalition forces. The death toll (which is 80-90% enemy deaths) reported
in that fashion gives the clear impression that somehow the Taliban were
successful in the skirmishes.

This is the reporting we are getting from these "unimpeachable" news
sources, and that the left eat like sweet candy. They just love to savor
the taste and texture of that anti-American; anti-coalition; anti-Bush
propaganda that makes the enemy rejoice--even as they are unequivocally
beaten by the forces of civilization.

This propaganda is absorbed directly into the bloodstream and flows
unimpeded into the brains (and I use the term loosely) of people like
the one I quoted above; who, as you can easily see from his comments,
shares in the jubilation of the enemy forces.

Anyone with any common sense and reason would want to hear the truth--
both the good parts and the bad. But, when the MSM reports are this
misleading and deliberately distort the facts; and when the left eat
those stories up-- then you've got to ask yourself: what kind of sick
motives lie behind such a blatant desire to aid and abet the enemy.


And al this is supposed to imply that the Coalition armed forces are
under competent leadership after all, or what?
That the paradigm of the Western forces in Afghanistan attacking
so-called Taliban targets is a valid and useful employment of our military?
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Nope, no media bias here, nope nope nope 19 May 2006 08:04:57 PM
Ike Milligan <info@1accordion.net> wrote in
news:%3ubg.2683$921.906@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net:

Fred Stone wrote:

http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2006/05/useful-idiot-brigade-of-
islamic.html

...let's look at yet another "news" story today. This one from the
Washington Post exclaims, "Afghanistan Rocked As 105 Die in Violence:
Toll Is Among Worst Since 2001 Invasion".

Once again, the invaluable Cori Dauber picks up on the blatant
attempt to mislead and distort by noting that 80-90 of that number
just happens to be the enemy who were killed. She then links to a
report by Bill Roggio at the Counterterrorism Blog who happens to be
an embed in Afghanistan (I am excerpting a large part of Roggio's
report because I know that the lefties who come here wouldn't bother
to click on the link; but I do hope other, more reasonable readers
will take the time):

The news reports of a major Taliban offensive in southeastern
Afghanistan are inaccurate, as Coalition offensives and Taliban
attacks have been lumped together to give the impression of a
coordinated Taliban assault in multiple provinces. A reading of the
various reports indicates that while the Taliban has launched a major
strike on a police station and government center in Helmand province
and a small scale attack on a police patrol in Ghazni, as well as two
suicide attacks against U.S. contractors in Herat and an Afghan army
base in Ghazni, the fighting in Kandahar was initiated by Afghan and
Coalition security forces during planned operations. Over 100 have
been reported killed during the fighting, with 87 being Taliban. Well
over half of those killed were killed during the Coalition offensives
in Kandahar.

There were two separate major engagements in Kandahar province,
and
both were initiated by the Coalition. Coalition forces conducted a
raid and subsequent air strikes against a Taliban safe haven in the
village of Azizi. As many as 27 Taliban are believed to have been
killed during the operation. A joint Canadian and Afghan security
force conducted a sweep in the Panjwai district of Kandahar, and
killed 18 Taliban and captured 26 in the process. One Canadian
officer was killed and three Afghan police were wounded during the
operation.

The fighting in Musa Qala in Helmand province is a bonafide major
Taliban attack. The Associated Press reports an "estimated 300-400
militants with assault rifles and machine guns attacked a police and
government headquarters" in Musa Qala. The Afghan police provided
reinforcements to the beleaguered police station, fought off the
Taliban force, reestablished control over the region, and killed 40
Taliban and took thirteen casualties of their own. Two police patrols
were ambushed in Ghazni, and resulted in the death of two policemen.
There is no evidence the attacks were coordinated. And they certainly
weren't coordinated to occur in conjunction with Coalition
operations.

It is important to understand how the fighting was initiated, as
the
current reporting is giving the impression of a coordinated Taliban
uprising. This provides the Taliban with a propaganda victory, as
their power is perceived as far greater than it actually is, which
can negatively influence the government and peoples of the Coalition
forces serving in Afghanistan. The narrow passage of the extension of
the Canadian mission in Afghanistan (by a 149-145 vote in Parliament)
illustrates the fragile nature of the support for the mission in some
Western nations.(Empasis mine)



Roggio notes that the entire affair is likely a major victory for the
coalition; especially considering that the Taliban's most senior
commander was captured. But that point is not even mentioned in the
Post story. Nor, of course is the concept of "victory" put forth as
we endure the hand-wringing of the writer who is clearly upset at all
that "violence" going on over there.

Roggion is also absolutely correct when he asserts that the MSM
reporting basically gives the Taliban a "propaganda victory" by
making it seem as if they are coordinated and exacting a heavy toll
on hapless coalition forces. The death toll (which is 80-90% enemy
deaths) reported in that fashion gives the clear impression that
somehow the Taliban were successful in the skirmishes.

This is the reporting we are getting from these "unimpeachable" news
sources, and that the left eat like sweet candy. They just love to
savor the taste and texture of that anti-American; anti-coalition;
anti-Bush propaganda that makes the enemy rejoice--even as they are
unequivocally beaten by the forces of civilization.

This propaganda is absorbed directly into the bloodstream and flows
unimpeded into the brains (and I use the term loosely) of people like
the one I quoted above; who, as you can easily see from his comments,
shares in the jubilation of the enemy forces.

Anyone with any common sense and reason would want to hear the
truth-- both the good parts and the bad. But, when the MSM reports
are this misleading and deliberately distort the facts; and when the
left eat those stories up-- then you've got to ask yourself: what
kind of sick motives lie behind such a blatant desire to aid and abet
the enemy.


And al this is supposed to imply that the Coalition armed forces are
under competent leadership after all, or what?
That the paradigm of the Western forces in Afghanistan attacking
so-called Taliban targets is a valid and useful employment of our
military?

You got a problem with Western forces successfully attacking Taliban
targets? Or maybe your problem is with Afghan police successfully
standing off a major Taliban offensive against a major headquarters? Or
maybe you just have a problem with contradicting the MSM's anti-American
propaganda?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
How can we connect the dots
if we cannot collect the dots?
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
.



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