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User: "Tock"
Date: 31 Oct 2004 11:57:28 AM
Object: Novemer 3 -- Truce
Ok folks, there's lots of emotion flying around about this election. Once
the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support (however
grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.
America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests between
partisans. So, I'm proposing that once the vote is counted and done,
everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations, and shake hands and go out for coffee
and donuts.
Ya, we all have to continue regardless of who wins what election. We may
as well do it as a united country instead of a bunch of unhappy campers.
There's still things to fix as far as the voting machines and etc, but we
may as well work on that stuff together, with a rose behind our ears instead
of baseball bats against each other's skulls.
How about it?
--Tock
.

User: "Jenny6833A"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 12:31:06 PM
"Tock"
says

Once
the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support (however
grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.

Accept temporarily, yes.
Tolerate temporarily, yes.
Support, even temporarily, NO.

So, I'm proposing that once the vote is counted and done ...

What makes you think that will be anywhere near November 3?

... everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations ...

That should have been done a year ago.
Actually, if it had been done from 9/11 onwards, we wouldn't be where we are
now.

Ya, we all have to continue regardless of who wins what election.

We're unlikely to ever know who won.

We may
as well do it as a united country instead of a bunch of unhappy campers.

So, when Hitler won, you think everyone should have united behind Hitler?
(And, yes, I think that's a fair comparison.)

There's still things to fix as far as the voting machines and etc ...

If that's the extent of your list, you're nuts.

... but we
may as well work on that stuff together, with a rose behind our ears instead
of baseball bats against each other's skulls.

Why? Explain why?

How about it?

Nope.
My opinions won't change. I'll continue to express them and continue to try to
make them come to fruition.


--Tock

:-)
Jenny
Before emailing, remove Clothes
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User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 01 Nov 2004 10:23:47 PM
On 31 Oct 2004 18:31:06 GMT, jenny6833a@aol.comClothes (Jenny6833A)
said in alt.atheism:

"Tock"

says

... everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations ...

That should have been done a year ago.
Actually, if it had been done from 9/11 onwards, we wouldn't be where we are
now.

If it had been done in 2000 there might not have been a 9/11.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.


User: "Uncle Dollar Bill"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 04:40:32 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:57:28 GMT in alt.atheism, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net>
defied the status quo and scrawled upon the toilet stall:

Ok folks, there's lots of emotion flying around about this election. Once
the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support (however
grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests between
partisans.

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of "Yes" men, either. That would
be the death of democracy.

So, I'm proposing that once the vote is counted and done,
everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations, and shake hands and go out for coffee
and donuts.

Sure. Care to point out the lying and false accusations and misrepresentations?
Otherwise, whatever's left is called "reality" and, no matter how unpleasant,
you'd just gotta' deal with it.

Ya, we all have to continue regardless of who wins what election. We may
as well do it as a united country instead of a bunch of unhappy campers.

Why? America's political system has _never_ been about conformity, falling in
line or supressing the individual conscience. That people like you are seeking
to make it so should be far more frightening than any partisan rhetoric you may
eschew.

There's still things to fix as far as the voting machines and etc, but we
may as well work on that stuff together, with a rose behind our ears instead
of baseball bats against each other's skulls.

You can't work on them when one side holds all the cards and refuses to even
consider relenting on even one single solitary point. Sorry, but the arrogant
tards in power need a few baseball bats against their skulls right now, it's the
only way they're ever going to realize that it's not 100% _their_ country.
--
L8r,
Uncle Dollar Bill
"Opinions are like people - every ***** has one..."
.
User: "Tock"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 08:23:15 PM
"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests between
partisans.


America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of "Yes" men, either. That
would
be the death of democracy.

Agreed.
But once the polls close, what happens afterward is in the hands of the
counters, the lawyers, and the courts. For all practical matters, hurling
invectives at one another here (and elsewhere) likely won't do anything
other than raise blood pressure. And, IMHO, we have enough to wrangle over
with religious/atheist issues without adding hostility over the presidential
election.
What would be cool, though, would be big, orderly, demonstrations by
millions of people publicly protesting the lousy voting system in the US.
Myself, I want paper ballots back. That touch pad thing ain't gonna cut it
.. . . too easy to screw with the numbers, no way to do a recount. (Gee, I
wonder if anyone did a Halloween costume as a voting machine?)
Ya, better to light some fires under the butts of people in charge of the
election process and get it fixed, than to get into partisan bickering . . .
I'm sure the lawyers & etc at the front lines of both camps will do
everything possible to gain whatever advantage they are legally entitled to.
Not much any of us peons can do . . . If there is, let me know . . .
-Tock
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User: "Enkidu"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 08:32:59 PM
"Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:n6hhd.3949$fC4.2306@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com:


"Uncle Dollar Bill" <UncleDollarBill@SpamMeNot.com> wrote

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests
between partisans.


America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of "Yes" men, either.
That would
be the death of democracy.


Agreed.
But once the polls close, what happens afterward is in the hands of
the counters, the lawyers, and the courts. For all practical
matters, hurling invectives at one another here (and elsewhere) likely
won't do anything other than raise blood pressure. And, IMHO, we have
enough to wrangle over with religious/atheist issues without adding
hostility over the presidential election.

Some officials are easier to light fire under than others:
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
California Secretary of State Kevin Shelley ended five months of
speculation and announced Friday that he was decertifying all electronic
touch-screen voting machines in the state due to security concerns and
lack of voter confidence.
"We will not tolerate deceitful tactics as engaged in by Diebold and we
must send a clear and compelling message to the rest of the industry:
Don't try to pull a fast one on the voters of California because there
will be consequences if you do," he said.
Shelley said the ban on touch-screen machines would stay in effect unless
and until specific security measures could be put in place to safeguard
the November vote.
"Revelations regarding touch-screen machines have shaken public
confidence in this voting technology," Shelley said, referring to four
computer-science reports released in the last year that showed the
machines to be badly designed and vulnerable to hacking. "It is my
foremost responsibility to take all steps necessary to make sure every
vote cast in California will be accurately counted."
--
Enkidu
"Yee-Ha" is not a foreign policy.
.



User: "Meteorite Debris"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 06:33:53 PM
On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:57:28 GMT the ET form known as
Tock<tock@sbcglobal.net> sent a radio signal across the vast expanse
of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.

Ok folks, there's lots of emotion flying around about this election. Once
the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support (however
grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests between
partisans. So, I'm proposing that once the vote is counted and done,
everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations, and shake hands and go out for coffee
and donuts.

Ya, we all have to continue regardless of who wins what election. We may
as well do it as a united country instead of a bunch of unhappy campers.
There's still things to fix as far as the voting machines and etc, but we
may as well work on that stuff together, with a rose behind our ears instead
of baseball bats against each other's skulls.

How about it?

--Tock

If Kerry wins there will be a harvest of sour grapes. The GOP 2004
vintage will be hard to swallow, nasty, smelly aroma, acerbic, bitter.
The GOP is like that. Always produces a drop that could strip paint
and is only brought by those with no taste.
--
epicurus1*at*optusnet*dot*com*dot*au
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~pk1956/
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever
conceived." - Isaac Asimov
.
User: "Tock"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 07:58:00 PM
"Meteorite Debris" <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote

If Kerry wins there will be a harvest of sour grapes. The GOP 2004
vintage will be hard to swallow, nasty, smelly aroma, acerbic, bitter.
The GOP is like that. Always produces a drop that could strip paint
and is only brought by those with no taste.

True.
I recall how surprised I was at the intensity of the bile spewed by
conservatives when Clinton was first elected. We'll likely have more of
the same if Kerry wins. But, I don't know that responding to bile with
more bile is an effective way to deal with it. Honestly, I don't know
what would be most effective, but bile for bile doesn't seem the best way to
go.
-Tock
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 01 Nov 2004 10:23:48 PM
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:58:00 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Honestly, I don't know what would be most effective

What's usually most effective against a dictator is a revolution.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 02 Nov 2004 12:01:36 PM
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:23:48 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:58:00 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Honestly, I don't know what would be most effective


What's usually most effective against a dictator is a revolution.

Yes, but that requires a populace with some spine.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 02 Nov 2004 10:26:58 PM
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:01:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:23:48 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:58:00 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Honestly, I don't know what would be most effective


What's usually most effective against a dictator is a revolution.


Yes, but that requires a populace with some spine.

Or at least some intelligence. One has to realize that there's a
problem before one can react to it.
The election results so far are disheartening. Although Kerry would
probably dismantle most of what the repugs have done, and that would
throw the country into turmoil. And he'd be fighting Congress for 4
years and getting nowhere. Neither outcome would be good.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 03 Nov 2004 02:38:44 PM
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:26:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:01:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:23:48 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 01:58:00 GMT, "Tock" <tock@sbcglobal.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Honestly, I don't know what would be most effective


What's usually most effective against a dictator is a revolution.


Yes, but that requires a populace with some spine.


Or at least some intelligence. One has to realize that there's a
problem before one can react to it.

Point. However, for months I've been indicating the U.S. populace is
brain dead from the neck up.

The election results so far are disheartening. Although Kerry would
probably dismantle most of what the repugs have done, and that would
throw the country into turmoil. And he'd be fighting Congress for 4
years and getting nowhere. Neither outcome would be good.

As I've also been indicating for months-the fix was in.
Shrub will now be able to pack the U.S. Supreme Court with fundies who
pass his stated religious test.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 03 Nov 2004 10:07:11 PM
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:38:44 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:26:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:01:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

Yes, but that requires a populace with some spine.

Or at least some intelligence. One has to realize that there's a
problem before one can react to it.

Point. However, for months I've been indicating the U.S. populace is
brain dead from the neck up.

It's gangrenous. It's been dead since the 60s, at least.

As I've also been indicating for months-the fix was in.
Shrub will now be able to pack the U.S. Supreme Court with fundies who
pass his stated religious test.

That's often backfired on a president. Let's hope history repeats
itself.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus On the True Doctrine, translated by R. Joseph Hoffman, Oxford University Press, 1987
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 04 Nov 2004 10:19:02 AM
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 04:07:11 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:38:44 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 04:26:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:

On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:01:36 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> said in
alt.atheism:


Yes, but that requires a populace with some spine.


Or at least some intelligence. One has to realize that there's a
problem before one can react to it.


Point. However, for months I've been indicating the U.S. populace is
brain dead from the neck up.


It's gangrenous. It's been dead since the 60s, at least.

Gangrene sets in before death....
However, that may be. Would it not have been killed by Sen. McCarthy
as well as Eisenhower when he signed that stupid "under imaginary
buddy" *****?

As I've also been indicating for months-the fix was in.
Shrub will now be able to pack the U.S. Supreme Court with fundies who
pass his stated religious test.


That's often backfired on a president. Let's hope history repeats
itself.

Yes.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.


User: "RainLover"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 03 Nov 2004 02:56:35 PM
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:38:44 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

As I've also been indicating for months-the fix was in.
Shrub will now be able to pack the U.S. Supreme Court with fundies who
pass his stated religious test.

I'm sorry, didn't you get the memo? The great and wonderous President
Bush doesn't have a "Litmus Test" for the U.S. Supreme Court justices
he will appoint. This, of course, means that the odds of having some
very liberal, pro-choice judges on the Bench are JUST AS LIKELY as
ending up with draconian, Theocratic, fundimentalist Judges.
You can TRUST Bush.. he's a Christian and would never lie about that
Litmus Test thing....
I think I'll go puke now.
James, Seattle
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 04 Nov 2004 10:16:42 AM
On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:56:35 -0800, RainLover
<SP-AMB-LOCKrainlover@raincity.com> wrote:

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 12:38:44 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:

As I've also been indicating for months-the fix was in.
Shrub will now be able to pack the U.S. Supreme Court with fundies who
pass his stated religious test.


I'm sorry, didn't you get the memo? The great and wonderous President
Bush doesn't have a "Litmus Test" for the U.S. Supreme Court justices
he will appoint. This, of course, means that the odds of having some
very liberal, pro-choice judges on the Bench are JUST AS LIKELY as
ending up with draconian, Theocratic, fundimentalist Judges.

You can TRUST Bush.. he's a Christian and would never lie about that
Litmus Test thing....

I think I'll go puke now.

Use Bush's pocket.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.








User: "X"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 02 Nov 2004 05:01:44 PM
Tock wrote:

... a united country ...

Dream on. I think the best we can hope for right now is that at least
half of us, more or less (hopefully more), are united in saying no thank
you to the radical fringe of the Republican Party who have used the
trauma of 9/11 to advance a pre-existing agenda to radically transform
American foreign policy and build an American Empire, while rolling back
civil liberties and social programs at home. See
http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/
.
User: "maff"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 03 Nov 2004 03:14:44 AM
X <X@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<slUhd.356634$D%.243805@attbi_s51>...

Tock wrote:


... a united country ...


Dream on. I think the best we can hope for right now is that at least
half of us, more or less (hopefully more), are united in saying no thank
you to the radical fringe of the Republican Party who have used the
trauma of 9/11 to advance a pre-existing agenda to radically transform
American foreign policy and build an American Empire, while rolling back
civil liberties and social programs at home. See
http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/

Target Bushie fascists, their organizations and businesses
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=18510aff.0410211155.70b05ae6%40posting.google.com
.
User: "Bob Harrington"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 03 Nov 2004 03:04:52 PM
maff wrote:

X <X@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:<slUhd.356634$D%.243805@attbi_s51>...

Tock wrote:


... a united country ...


Dream on. I think the best we can hope for right now is that at least
half of us, more or less (hopefully more), are united in saying no
thank you to the radical fringe of the Republican Party who have
used the trauma of 9/11 to advance a pre-existing agenda to
radically transform American foreign policy and build an American
Empire, while rolling back civil liberties and social programs at
home. See http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/


Target Bushie fascists, their organizations and businesses
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=18510aff.0410211155.70b05ae6%40posting.google.com

Yeah - we can use the laughs!
.
User: "maff"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 04 Nov 2004 02:58:32 AM
"Bob Harrington" <rch.NOS-PAM@blarg.net> wrote in message news:<CsqdnUKX2J1o2hTcRVn-jQ@giganews.com>...

maff wrote:

X <X@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:<slUhd.356634$D%.243805@attbi_s51>...

Tock wrote:


... a united country ...


Dream on. I think the best we can hope for right now is that at least
half of us, more or less (hopefully more), are united in saying no
thank you to the radical fringe of the Republican Party who have
used the trauma of 9/11 to advance a pre-existing agenda to
radically transform American foreign policy and build an American
Empire, while rolling back civil liberties and social programs at
home. See http://www.hijackingcatastrophe.org/


Target Bushie fascists, their organizations and businesses
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&selm=18510aff.0410211155.70b05ae6%40posting.google.com


Yeah - we can use the laughs!

If you want to sacifice your life and money for Bushie fascism then by
all means go for it.
.




User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 12:24:06 PM
Tock wrote:

Ok folks, there's lots of emotion flying around about this election.
Once the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support
(however grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.

The conservatives have been hammering peoople since Reagan.
They started this with Falwell's Moral Majority,NICPAC and otehr far right
organizations that started in the 80s and have specialized in hate
mongering and destructive propaganda.
Its so embedded in 'consrrvatism' now, ot can't be stiopped.
Its how the GOP came to misrule America.
If Kerry wins, and I strongly suspect he will,
teh hate will wash over us from the right like
nothing you ahave ever seen before.
Yo wil see this intensify as the far right tries to destroy Kerry.
The extreme incompetence from everything from
lying us into a war in Iraq, to the accumulation of
vast debts is so incompetent tha the GOP must be stopped.
Having nothing competent to run on the GOP attacks people.
And has for 24 years now.
It won't stop.
It can't stop.
Either one fights this or rolls over
and lest pseudoc-conservative fascism complete the
destruction of America.
--
Kerry - two medals a silver and bronze star.
Bush? Well they don't give medals
for going AWOL, missing your medical and
getting grounded or falling off of a bar stool.
Kerry - a hero, Bush - a zero
Cheerful Charlie
.

User: "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 01:07:38 PM
Tock wrote:

Ok folks, there's lots of emotion flying around about this election. Once
the votes are counted, everyone needs to settle down and support (however
grudgingly that support may be) whoever is elected.

America doesn't need to be stuck with a bunch of pissing contests between
partisans. So, I'm proposing that once the vote is counted and done,
everyone -- on all sides -- put aside all the BS and lying and false
accusations and misrepresentations, and shake hands and go out for coffee
and donuts.

Ya, we all have to continue regardless of who wins what election. We may
as well do it as a united country instead of a bunch of unhappy campers.
There's still things to fix as far as the voting machines and etc, but we
may as well work on that stuff together, with a rose behind our ears instead
of baseball bats against each other's skulls.

How about it?

--Tock


Sure, no problem.
That is until whom ever the ***** is elected, starts stomping all over my
personal and civil rights again. Starts trying to shover their version
of morality down my throat. Or their followers do.
Then, all bets are off. And the venom will flow as before.
--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor

A.A #1143 PLONKED by Bob
Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________
.
User: "Tock"

Title: Re: Novemer 3 -- Truce 31 Oct 2004 07:52:12 PM
"Rev. Karl E. Taylor" <ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote

How about it?

--Tock

Sure, no problem.

That is until whom ever the ***** is elected, starts stomping all over my
personal and civil rights again. Starts trying to shover their version of
morality down my throat. Or their followers do.

Then, all bets are off. And the venom will flow as before.

That's reasonable.
Venom over issues is one thing, but venom because you aren't happy with
whoever ends up the winner is another--at least, this election. Folks need
to badger politicians until they get a good voting process in place . . .
Evidently they didn't think our own election system was more important than
the one in Iraq. They need to discover that that ain't necessarily so . .
..
--Tock
.



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