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User: "maff"
Date: 30 Nov 2005 03:49:45 PM
Object: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution
Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article330311.ece
By Simon Hadlington
Published: 30 November 2005
In the foothills of the Troodos mountains in Cyprus, Dr Crispin Little
sifts through the debris from an abandoned sulphide mine. Little is
searching for the preserved remains of marine creatures that lived in
the deep ocean millions of years ago. The sulphide deposits once lay
thousands of metres below the surface of the sea and were thrust
upwards during huge movements of the Earth's crust.
The deposits were formed by hydrothermal vents, small openings in the
ocean floor that spew out hot water. These vents support a bewildering
array of animals. They form at the junctions of the tectonic plates
that make up the Earth's crust. Sea water seeps into newly formed crust
where it gets heated up and strips the underlying volcanic rock of
minerals. Eventually this "hydrothermal fluid", which can be as hot as
400C, finds its way back to the surface, where it can gush out like an
underwater geyser.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution 03 Dec 2005 05:37:03 AM
maff wrote:

Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article330311.ece

By Simon Hadlington
Published: 30 November 2005

In the foothills of the Troodos mountains in Cyprus, Dr Crispin Little
sifts through the debris from an abandoned sulphide mine. Little is
searching for the preserved remains of marine creatures that lived in
the deep ocean millions of years ago. The sulphide deposits once lay
thousands of metres below the surface of the sea and were thrust
upwards during huge movements of the Earth's crust.

The deposits were formed by hydrothermal vents, small openings in the
ocean floor that spew out hot water. These vents support a bewildering
array of animals. They form at the junctions of the tectonic plates
that make up the Earth's crust. Sea water seeps into newly formed crust
where it gets heated up and strips the underlying volcanic rock of
minerals. Eventually this "hydrothermal fluid", which can be as hot as
400C, finds its way back to the surface, where it can gush out like an
underwater geyser.

This discovery appears consistent with the "fountains of the deep"
mentioned in Genesis.
Gen 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth
day of the second month - on that day all the springs of the great deep
burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." [TNIV]
Gen 8:2 "Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens
had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky." [TNIV]
There is growing evidence that there is still a huge amount of water
stored deep in the earth in crystal lattices of minerals, which is
possible because of the immense pressure. See L. Bergeron, "Deep
waters," New Scientist, 1997, 155(2097):22-26:"You have oceans and
oceans of water stored in the transition zone. It's sopping wet."
For more info see: S.A. Austin, J.R. Baumgardner, D.R. Humphreys, A.A.
Snelling, L. Vardiman, and K.P. Wise, "Catastrophic Plate Tectonics:
A Global Flood Model of Earth History," Proc. Third ICC, 1994.
.
User: "Ike"

Title: Re: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution 03 Dec 2005 09:05:43 PM
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maff wrote:

Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article330311.ece

By Simon Hadlington
Published: 30 November 2005

In the foothills of the Troodos mountains in Cyprus, Dr Crispin Little
sifts through the debris from an abandoned sulphide mine. Little is
searching for the preserved remains of marine creatures that lived in
the deep ocean millions of years ago. The sulphide deposits once lay
thousands of metres below the surface of the sea and were thrust
upwards during huge movements of the Earth's crust.

The deposits were formed by hydrothermal vents, small openings in the
ocean floor that spew out hot water. These vents support a bewildering
array of animals. They form at the junctions of the tectonic plates
that make up the Earth's crust. Sea water seeps into newly formed crust
where it gets heated up and strips the underlying volcanic rock of
minerals. Eventually this "hydrothermal fluid", which can be as hot as
400C, finds its way back to the surface, where it can gush out like an
underwater geyser.


This discovery appears consistent with the "fountains of the deep"
mentioned in Genesis.
Gen 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth
day of the second month - on that day all the springs of the great deep
burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." [TNIV]

Gen 8:2 "Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens
had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky." [TNIV]

There is growing evidence that there is still a huge amount of water
stored deep in the earth in crystal lattices of minerals, which is
possible because of the immense pressure. See L. Bergeron, "Deep
waters," New Scientist, 1997, 155(2097):22-26:"You have oceans and
oceans of water stored in the transition zone. It's sopping wet."

For more info see: S.A. Austin, J.R. Baumgardner, D.R. Humphreys, A.A.
Snelling, L. Vardiman, and K.P. Wise, "Catastrophic Plate Tectonics:
A Global Flood Model of Earth History," Proc. Third ICC, 1994.

Where do I go to see less?
.

User: "Navillus"

Title: Re: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution 03 Dec 2005 09:27:26 PM
wrote:

This discovery appears consistent with the "fountains of the deep"
mentioned in Genesis.
Gen 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth
day of the second month - on that day all the springs of the great deep
burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." [TNIV]

Gen 8:2 "Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens
had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky." [TNIV]

There is growing evidence that there is still a huge amount of water
stored deep in the earth in crystal lattices of minerals, which is
possible because of the immense pressure. See L. Bergeron, "Deep
waters," New Scientist, 1997, 155(2097):22-26:"You have oceans and
oceans of water stored in the transition zone. It's sopping wet."

For more info see: S.A. Austin, J.R. Baumgardner, D.R. Humphreys, A.A.
Snelling, L. Vardiman, and K.P. Wise, "Catastrophic Plate Tectonics:
A Global Flood Model of Earth History," Proc. Third ICC, 1994.

How does someone who points to Genesis to bridge these events account
reconsile the fact that Genesis clearly outlines an immediate
appearance of all animals? If Genesis is detailing how thermal vents
helped facilitate the emergence of organized single cell organisms from
inanimate matter, how is this so? I ask in all seriousness, I'm curious
about biblical literalism in this case.
.

User: "Stuart"

Title: Re: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution 03 Dec 2005 09:56:37 PM
wrote:

maff wrote:

Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article330311.ece

By Simon Hadlington
Published: 30 November 2005

In the foothills of the Troodos mountains in Cyprus, Dr Crispin Little
sifts through the debris from an abandoned sulphide mine. Little is
searching for the preserved remains of marine creatures that lived in
the deep ocean millions of years ago. The sulphide deposits once lay
thousands of metres below the surface of the sea and were thrust
upwards during huge movements of the Earth's crust.

The deposits were formed by hydrothermal vents, small openings in the
ocean floor that spew out hot water. These vents support a bewildering
array of animals. They form at the junctions of the tectonic plates
that make up the Earth's crust. Sea water seeps into newly formed crust
where it gets heated up and strips the underlying volcanic rock of
minerals. Eventually this "hydrothermal fluid", which can be as hot as
400C, finds its way back to the surface, where it can gush out like an
underwater geyser.


This discovery appears consistent with the "fountains of the deep"
mentioned in Genesis.
Gen 7:11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, on the seventeenth
day of the second month - on that day all the springs of the great deep
burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened." [TNIV]

Gen 8:2 "Now the springs of the deep and the floodgates of the heavens
had been closed, and the rain had stopped falling from the sky." [TNIV]

There is growing evidence that there is still a huge amount of water
stored deep in the earth in crystal lattices of minerals, which is
possible because of the immense pressure. See L. Bergeron, "Deep
waters," New Scientist, 1997, 155(2097):22-26:"You have oceans and
oceans of water stored in the transition zone. It's sopping wet."

Thats hyperbole to say the least.
More to the point, though is that this water is contained in stable
mineral phases. In other words, it can't be used to explain "fountains
of the deep" since this water will not erupt out of the mantle.
You need to invoke a miracle to cause these phases to destabilize to
the point that torrents of water will erupt from the transition zone.
<creationist fantasy snipped>
Stuart
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Ocean floor geysers could hold key to understanding our evolution 09 Dec 2005 12:49:23 PM
Regardless of whether this new research is accurate, surely the men who
wrote the bible knew nothing of what happened under the Earth's crust
neither millions of years ago nor 2000 years ago. I don't believe that
the bible is helpful in this discussion.
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