Religions > Atheism > Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong.
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Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'
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A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
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LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 05:55:12 PM |
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"Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net> wrote in message
news:HaoOf.32$y22.882@news.uswest.net...
Preamble to: THE FRUITS OF MILITANT ATHEISM in the new USSR
By Brian Moynahan/The Faith: A History of Christianity/Doubleday,
NY/2002/pp. 670-674.
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion. The
preceding examples show the militant atheist ego at its murderous
worst. They also reveal that religionists are not the only people who
cower in the herd, as is shown by the Stalinists' pathetic recourse to
'atheist churches' such as the LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS
and the Groups of THE GODLESS YOUTH, complete with 'hymns.'
= = = = = = = = = = = == = = == = = = = = = = == === = == =
A decree in January 1918... banned religious teaching in all
schools, colleges, and universities. All church buildings were taken
by the state... Church and monastic land was nationalized. No
compensation was offered for confiscated assets... Under the new
constitution, the clergy - together with capitalists, criminals, and
imbeciles - were deprived of the right to vote or hold state offices.
In practice this denied the clergy the right to food rations and their
children to education... the Orthodox Church was stripped of its legal
privileges, its land, and its source of income...
Calculated persecution returned after the Bolshevik victory in
1921. Lenin sanctioned terror as a form of pesticide to be used on
people whom he dehumanized as "harmful insects...scoundrel
fleas...bedbugs"... Émigrés estimated that 1200 priests and 28
bishops had been killed by 1923, and thousands of others, with monks
and nuns, were deported.
On Easter Day, 1925, the foundation congress of THE LEAGUE OF THE
MILITANT GODLESS was held. Its duty was to eradicate religion through
propaganda, pressure, and ridicule...
The method that Stalin used to force the peasantry onto collective
farms was terror-famine, and the result was a holocaust. Boris
Pasternak, who made a trip to gather material on collectivization,
found himself dumb with horror. "What I saw could not be expressed in
words... There was such inhuman, unimaginable misery, such a terrible
disaster, that it began to seem almost abstract, it would not fit
within the bounds of consciousness." Grain was confiscated from
starving families to gain hard currency for Stalin's industrialization
program... It is probable that fourteen million peasants died...
Communist activists led the grain searches, shot hoarders, and
herded families onto deportation transports as a matter of dogma; they
were pitiless, for dogma demanded "no concessions to
rightist-deviationist attitudes" and "no pacifism."...
Terror, and scientific atheism, was also applied to the Church.
Stalin introduced a Law of religious Associations in 1929 that banned
churches from all work with children and young people. Churches were
not allowed to organize reading rooms, libraries, excursions,
children's playgrounds, sewing groups, or bible readings; they could
not sponsor sanatoria or medical care; their priests were forbidden to
take part in any activity outside the immediate neighbourhood of the
"prayer building," the new name for "church." An attempt was made to
extinguish religion as a whole. The fury fell most harshly on the
Orthodox clergy, but thousands of other Christian priests, Baptists,
Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics,and mullahs and rabbis...were also
persecuted... some were shot, though most of those arrested suffered a
lingering death in the work camps of Siberia and the Arctic. Others
lived on the run...
Membership in THE LEAGUE OF THE MILITANT GODLESS reached five
million by 1935. Children between eight and fourteen were enrolled in
GROUPS OF GODLESS YOUTH before graduating to Komsomol, the League of
Communist Youth. Prizes were offered for the best "godless hymns" and
to children who denounced their parents for voicing anti-Party
sentiments... Only one in forty churches survived; the others were
smashed to rubble or turned into warehouses, offices, and museums.
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour in Moscow was destroyed with
dynamite, although care was taken to do so in the dead of night. A
Palace of Soviets topped by a huge statue of Lenin was to be built in
its place, but the site had weak foundations and it was used for a
giant open-air swimming pool instead. No churches or meeting places
were permitted in the new industrial cities...
In statistical terms the Godless looked to have won. There were
163 Orthodox bishops in 1914, and by 1939 only four survived in
freedom; of the old body of clergy 51,105 clergy, the number still in
their parishes was in the hundreds... "Religion is like a nail,"
Yaroslavsky wearily admitted. "The harder you strike it, the deeper
it goes."
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = == =
LEST WE FORGET: Atheists mass murdered over 100 million people
in the last 83 years of the 20th century alone? You can find a
most illuminating and interesting summary of historical mass murder
at http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/.
The combined killings done by by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
Hey Asswipe, change identities again? Had most folks killfiled you? Couldn't
stand it, could you? What a pathetic loser!
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| User: "Virgil" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful theist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 04:44:48 PM |
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In article <HaoOf.32$y22.882@news.uswest.net>,
"Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net> wrote:
The combined killings done by by Jews, Christians, and Moslems
throughout history don't compare with the slaughter perpetrated
by atheists in a single century.
So we should praise those earlier centuries for their inefficiency?
And IIRC, there were more people living in that one century than in all
previous centuries.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 05:12:52 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
The unenlightened ego, with its drive to power and social control,
has been problematic both inside and outside of religion.
Mostly inside. Get enlightened. Drop the gods.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
05 Mar 2006 12:50:09 PM |
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What is is about christianity that turns people into nasty, hate filled
liars?
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 04:16:03 PM |
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You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
And we can have a long debate about wether communist leaders
were responsible for under 30 million, (my estimate)
or over 90 million (appearantly your estimate) premature deaths.
Best to you,
Peter van Velzen
March 2006
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
(Kittung Kesinee)
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| User: "Skywise" |
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04 Mar 2006 05:12:42 PM |
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<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1141510563.025324.196750@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
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| User: "Tom" |
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04 Mar 2006 05:56:24 PM |
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"Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net> wrote in message
news:B9pOf.36$y22.1211@news.uswest.net...
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1141510563.025324.196750@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
You aren't intelligent enough to read his posts, much less understand them.
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| User: "Eric Gill" |
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05 Mar 2006 05:01:30 PM |
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"Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net> wrote in news:B9pOf.36$y22.1211
@news.uswest.net:
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1141510563.025324.196750@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a
communist.
<Slap>
Keep your hands off that while posting, like your mother told you.
One in the same.
Of course not. And you know better.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
News flash: you're not god.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
Since this is a made-up term of your own devising with no application to
reality, why would anyone care?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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04 Mar 2006 09:00:45 PM |
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:12:42 -0700, "Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net>
wrote:
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1141510563.025324.196750@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
And I see no sign of intelligence in yours, nor have I ever. You've
been posting this same tired old oft-refuted crap over and over again
for years now, Ray, and every time you do, you get your ***** handed to
you on a platter. Why do you even bother? Are you really this fucking
stupid, or do you just enjoy pissing pissing people off?
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Mar 2006 05:20:38 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
<BITCHSLAP>
We are what we are. What do you care? Does our atheism stop you from
worshiping your gods?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "Skywise" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 07:58:27 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977C9BEB1A7DFvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
<BITCHSLAP>
We are what we are. What do you care? Does our atheism stop you from
worshiping your gods?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 08:15:37 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977C9BEB1A7DFvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
<BITCHSLAP>
We are what we are. What do you care? Does our atheism stop you
from worshiping your gods?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own
desires. I call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time
being an active Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win"
never comes into play, because there are no gods.
Still firing blanks I see.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "Skywise" |
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04 Mar 2006 07:58:41 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977C9BEB1A7DFvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
<BITCHSLAP>
We are what we are. What do you care? Does our atheism stop you from
worshiping your gods?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours with the
fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and pedal your fat
***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors" stuff for a change.
Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer to lick-clean the
jockstraps.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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04 Mar 2006 09:18:16 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours
with the fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and
pedal your fat ***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors"
stuff for a change. Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer
to lick-clean the jockstraps.
Still firing blanks I see.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "Skywise" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 10:57:50 PM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977CC434F764Fvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours
with the fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and
pedal your fat ***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors"
stuff for a change. Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer
to lick-clean the jockstraps.
Still firing blanks I see.
Naw,I hit you where it hurts.
In the reality. :0)
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| User: "Erica Nurney" |
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05 Mar 2006 12:17:33 PM |
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:57:50 -0700, "Skywise" <Skywise@raysskicker.net>
wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977CC434F764Fvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours
with the fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and
pedal your fat ***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors"
stuff for a change. Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer
to lick-clean the jockstraps.
Still firing blanks I see.
Naw,I hit you where it hurts.
In the reality. :0)
You stupid twat, you wouldn't know reality if it crawled from your
*****.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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05 Mar 2006 01:00:05 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977CC434F764Fvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours
with the fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and
pedal your fat ***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors"
stuff for a change. Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer
to lick-clean the jockstraps.
Still firing blanks I see.
Naw,I hit you where it hurts.
In the reality. :0)
Still firing blanks I see.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Mar 2006 10:31:54 PM |
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 13:00:05 -0600, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977CC434F764Fvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours
with the fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and
pedal your fat ***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors"
stuff for a change. Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer
to lick-clean the jockstraps.
Still firing blanks I see.
Naw,I hit you where it hurts.
In the reality. :0)
Still firing blanks I see.
Not even that. With Raytard, it's strictly misfires.
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| User: "JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to Jason Gastrichs effort" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
06 Mar 2006 02:43:16 PM |
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Skywise wrote:
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns977C9BEB1A7DFvicman@216.196.97.136...
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Skywise
(Skywise@raysskicker.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<Slap>
One in the same.
I believe the cliche is "one AND the same."
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
<BITCHSLAP>
We are what we are. What do you care? Does our atheism stop you from
worshiping your gods?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Atheists get to live their lives in accordance with their own desires. I
call that a win, compared to the collossal waste of time being an active
Christian. Atheist: win. Christian: lose. "No win" never comes into
play, because there are no gods.
Now, why don't you climb onto that Special Needs tricycle of yours with the
fourth wheel attached for extra-ensured retard stability and pedal your fat
***** down to the sports field and do some "outdoors" stuff for a change.
Hell, if you don't like it, you can always offer to lick-clean the
jockstraps.
I love posts like this; they say so much that the poster doesn't intend
to reveal.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
11 Mar 2006 08:26:45 AM |
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Skywise schreef:
<pbamvv@worldonline.nl> wrote in message
news:1141510563.025324.196750@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
You must have made a calculation eror
in 83 years - on average - the whole world-population dies.
So 100 million is too low a figure,
it must have been 3 billion!
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
One in the same.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
I see no practical atheism in your posts.
More slight errors.
1.
Atheism = the idea that there is no god
Communism = the idea that all production means should be state
property
There have been Communists that believe in God
and there are Atheist who fully support private enterprise.
For some reason both the Russian and Chinese commnist party
have endorsed Atheism.
Probably because the party leaders saw Gods as rivals:)
But the established personal worship of the leaders instead.
It was more like state-religion, like Mao and Stalin were Gods.
2.
I do not hate God
How can I? I think he does not exist.
Love
Peter
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
04 Mar 2006 10:35:40 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Skywise"
<Skywise@raysskicker.net> posting the following on Sat, 4 Mar 2006
16:12:42 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
<Left cross to the jaw>
One in the same.
Actually, I used to kill communists. I was very good at it.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
Nope. We don't believe in your sky buddy.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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| User: "Skywise" |
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04 Mar 2006 11:03:20 PM |
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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote in message
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What's so funny about peace, love and "Skywise"
<Skywise@raysskicker.net> posting the following on Sat, 4 Mar 2006
16:12:42 -0700 iin alt.atheism?
If you want to say
1. Atheism=Communism
and Communism has killed more people that any other ideology
please make another headline.
Than I can explain to you that I am not an atheist but not a communist.
<Slap>
<Left cross to the jaw>
One in the same.
Actually, I used to kill communists. I was very good at it.
~Snickers~
And I'm Saint Nick.
Ohhh....And you hate God....huge difference.
Nope. We don't believe in your sky buddy.
LMAO!
"Sky Buddy"
And you can say you don't hate with a straight face.
It's just as well you can type, for if you had to speak your mind, you'd be
speechless. You're just another Internet-addicted idiot suffering from
diarrhea of the mouth and constipation of the mind.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
05 Mar 2006 03:11:37 AM |
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I think Skywise has a good point that godless communism has killed more
people than all religions put together. But . . . atheism does not
imply communism, socialism, radical politics etc. Sure, most of us
(atheists) think religion is a stupid thing that parents indoctrinate
their children with, but that's the way of nature. Everything is
natural, even your god.
Now, please understand that there are two different kinds of atheism.
One says "I do not believe in God," the other, "there is no God." To
avoid the ugly nuisance of trying to prove a negative (not being a
trained philosopher) I stick with the first assertion. The burden of
proof is squarely on the shoulders of the religious, leaving me free.
I think that trolling around the religious forums is done in poor
taste. Uncle Vic could stand to lighten up. See, Uncle Vic, these are
animals, unable to be other than they are at any given moment -- like
you and me.
In the spirit of the Saturday Night Live skit where the man dressed as
a woman would throw a topic out when she began to cry, saying "<topic>,
discuss," there is no free will. That is a negative I am willing to
argue.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
05 Mar 2006 03:27:15 AM |
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On 5 Mar 2006 01:11:37 -0800 in alt.atheism,
() said, directing the reply to alt.atheism
I think Skywise has a good point that godless communism has killed more
people than all religions put together. But . . . atheism does not
imply communism, socialism, radical politics etc. Sure, most of us
(atheists) think religion is a stupid thing that parents indoctrinate
their children with, but that's the way of nature. Everything is
natural, even your god.
Now, please understand that there are two different kinds of atheism.
One says "I do not believe in God," the other, "there is no God." To
avoid the ugly nuisance of trying to prove a negative (not being a
trained philosopher) I stick with the first assertion. The burden of
proof is squarely on the shoulders of the religious, leaving me free.
I think that trolling around the religious forums is done in poor
taste. Uncle Vic could stand to lighten up. See, Uncle Vic, these are
animals, unable to be other than they are at any given moment -- like
you and me.
In the spirit of the Saturday Night Live skit where the man dressed as
a woman would throw a topic out when she began to cry, saying "<topic>,
discuss," there is no free will. That is a negative I am willing to
argue.
What do you mean by "free will"?
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
#442. www.video2cd.co.uk. Your 8mm films on DVD.
Help An Imaginary Being Today. Visit www.saecb.com .
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| User: "friendlyostrich" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
06 Mar 2006 12:41:31 PM |
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Of the two popular definitions, I take free will to be "origination,"
or ultimate responsibility. Anything short of such responsibility I
see as insufficient for the attribution of moral responsibility, praise
and blame. What do you mean by free will?
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
06 Mar 2006 09:04:36 PM |
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friendlyostrich wrote:
Of the two popular definitions, I take free will to be "origination,"
or ultimate responsibility. Anything short of such responsibility I
see as insufficient for the attribution of moral responsibility, praise
and blame. What do you mean by free will?
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OMNISCIENCE VERSUS CREATORHOOD OF GOD
God is defined as creator of all in most religions.
And god is claimed to be omniscient, all knowing.
A. God created the Universe and all in it.
B. God is omniscient, all knowing, he knows all in
the Universe and he knows the future of the Universe
and its contents.
C. If god creates a Universe, he will know that in 13 billion
years this Universe will have a man named John Smith in it.
D. If John Smith is good and saved, or evil and damned, God
will know that.
E. As he knows that the Universe in its present state will
have a John Smith, god may then contemplate the future state
of Smith and decide if he will tolerate an evil Smith.
F. If yes, Smith will be evil only because of a specific
personal and will choice made solely by god.
G. If Smith is evil, then evil exists solely because of a choice
made by god. In fact all moral evil done by creations of god
will be evil and do evil only because of personal and willful
creations of god allowing evil acts to be done, by direct
decision of god.
H. If evil exists in a world with an omniscient creator god,
it is solely and only because god allows evil.
I. If evil exists solely because of personal choices of god,
god then is not as defined, omnibenevolent.
J. Man and any other sentient being in such a Universe cannot
have any free will, not even in principle. A Universe with
a god that creates all and knows all precludes free will for
all beings god creates in the strongest possible manner.
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An Inuit hunter asked the local missionary priest: "If I did not know about
God and sin, would I go to hell?" "No," said the priest, "not if you did
not know." "Then why," asked the Inuit earnestly, "did you tell me?"
-Annie Dillard, Pilgrim at Tinker Creek
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Eric Gill" |
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05 Mar 2006 12:50:33 PM |
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wrote in news:1141549897.595137.78370
@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
I think Skywise has a good point that godless communism has killed more
people than all religions put together.
What, exactly, disqualifies Communism from being a religion?
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| User: "friendlyostrich" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
06 Mar 2006 12:45:01 PM |
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I'm not an expert on religion, but it is generally agreed that
communism is a secular ideology. If you want to include communism
under the definition of religion, I think that then one could include
also any world-perspective at all, and so everyone, even atheists and
agnostics, and the "spiritual, but not religious" types would be
"religious." What do you think qualifies communism as a religion?
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| User: "Eric Gill" |
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| Title: Re: Ohh those peaceful atheist God Haters-100 million people dead in the last 83 years and countiong. |
06 Mar 2006 05:42:00 PM |
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"friendlyostrich" <hansfcox@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1141670701.905530.319460@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com:
I'm not an expert on religion, but it is generally agreed that
communism is a secular ideology.
Why? That's what I'm looking for here.
<snip>
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| User: "John Baker" |
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05 Mar 2006 11:47:48 AM |
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On 5 Mar 2006 01:11:37 -0800, wrote:
I think Skywise has a good point that godless communism has killed more
people than all religions put together.
Even if true, it isn't Ray's point. He copies and pastes practically
everything he posts, and doesn't even understand half of it.
But . . . atheism does not
imply communism, socialism, radical politics etc. Sure, most of us
(atheists) think religion is a stupid thing that parents indoctrinate
their children with, but that's the way of nature. Everything is
natural, even your god.
Now, please understand that there are two different kinds of atheism.
One says "I do not believe in God," the other, "there is no God." To
avoid the ugly nuisance of trying to prove a negative (not being a
trained philosopher) I stick with the first assertion. The burden of
proof is squarely on the shoulders of the religious, leaving me free.
I think that trolling around the religious forums is done in poor
taste. Uncle Vic could stand to lighten up. See, Uncle Vic, these are
animals, unable to be other than they are at any given moment -- like
you and me.
In the spirit of the Saturday Night Live skit where the man dressed as
a woman would throw a topic out when she began to cry, saying "<topic>,
discuss," there is no free will. That is a negative I am willing to
argue.
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