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Date: 07 Dec 2007 08:24:34 PM
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.
Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it came about
from a void.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be
able to explain that source.
Therefore, what is impossible?
The solution to injustice, hatred & terrorism leading to self-defeating
modern warfare has its solution in the Spiritual Resource Real.
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.
- udarrell . com
--
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THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES & WISDOM Principled PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
http://www.udarrell.com/ (Updated Again)
NO attacks on Iran!
How Obama & Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuses
http://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm
How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be worth to America & the world?
If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this tragedy from happening? How many lives & Trillions of Dollars would that save & be worth?
There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare & it is totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and causes cancer & chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable genocidal birth deformities.
Iran is NO immediate threat & could be a friend of America; leave Iran alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions & economic sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng & extremely costly in every human dimension.
It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged as the Department of Defense.
http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm (Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)
Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Okay all you unbeliever's
explain how all the universe galaxies were created from nothing &amp;
stay in their orbital positions!<br>
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.<br>
<br>
Explain the initial beginning of all that exists &amp; how it came
about from a void. <br>
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never
be able to explain that source.<br>
</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Therefore, what is
impossible? <br>
<br>
The solution to injustice, hatred &amp; terrorism leading to
self-defeating modern warfare has its solution in the Spiritual
Resource Real.<br>
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.<br>
</font><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">- udarrell . com </font><br>
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How Obama &amp; Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuses
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If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this tragedy from happening? How many lives &amp; Trillions of Dollars would that save &amp; be worth?
There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare &amp; it is totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and causes cancer &amp; chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable genocidal birth deformities.
Iran is NO immediate threat &amp; could be a friend of America; leave Iran alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions &amp; economic sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng &amp; extremely costly in every human dimension.
It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged as the Department of Defense.
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm">http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm</a> (Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
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User: "Karl Johanson"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 10:20:08 PM
"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!

God did it, give me money.
Karl Johanson
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User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 10:45:17 PM
"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created

Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each
other very much....
The rest we'll tell you when you grow up.
.
User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 10:10:16 AM
"Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <this@aint.me> wrote in message
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"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created


Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each
other very much....
The rest we'll tell you when you grow up.

good one !
.
User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 07:11:07 PM
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"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created


Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each
other very much....
The rest we'll tell you when you grow up.


good one !


:)
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 12:16:32 AM
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <this@aint.me>
bloodied us up with this:


"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created


Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each
other very much....
The rest we'll tell you when you grow up.



LOL!
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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User: "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 07:10:52 PM
"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Ron Baker, Pluralitas!" <this@aint.me>
bloodied us up with this:


"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
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Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created


Well, when a mommy galaxy and a daddy galaxy love each
other very much....
The rest we'll tell you when you grow up.




LOL!

:)
.



User: "Jim E"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 02:37:17 AM
"udarrell" <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote in message
news:Cfn6j.40753$G23.37065@newsreading01.news.tds.net...

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.

Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it came about
from a void.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be
able to explain that source.
Therefore, what is impossible?

The solution to injustice, hatred & terrorism leading to self-defeating
modern warfare has its solution in the Spiritual Resource Real.
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.
- udarrell . com

--
WISDOM PRINCIPLED EMPOWERMENT COMMUNICATIONS -
THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES & WISDOM Principled PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT

http://www.udarrell.com/ (Updated Again)
NO attacks on Iran!

How Obama & Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuses
http://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm

How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be
worth to America & the world?

If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of
identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a
global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this
tragedy from happening? How many lives & Trillions of Dollars would that
save & be worth?


There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare & it is
totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU)
Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and
causes cancer & chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable
genocidal birth deformities.

Iran is NO immediate threat & could be a friend of America; leave Iran
alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions & economic sanctions
are fundamentally self-defeatng & extremely costly in every human
dimension.

It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department
Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged
as the Department of Defense.

http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm (Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)

Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.



Try reading a book
I suggest you start with " A Brief History of Time".
Very little math skills required to understand.
Jim E
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User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreatedfrom nothing! 08 Dec 2007 11:43:04 PM
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udarrell wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe
galaxies were created from nothing & stay in their orbital
positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion
human beings live on.

Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it
came about from a void.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we
will never be able to explain that source.
Therefore, what is impossible?

A plethora of scientific explanations have taken place since
man learned to read and write
Our origins will be a tough task, but any sane person knows
it was nothing to do with any of man's gods
The church constantly moves their goal posts in line with
scientific discovery and will always need to do so.



The solution to injustice, hatred & terrorism leading to
self-defeating modern warfare has its solution in the
Spiritual Resource Real.
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.
- udarrell . com

--
WISDOM PRINCIPLED EMPOWERMENT COMMUNICATIONS -
THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES & WISDOM Principled PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT

http://www.udarrell.com/ (Updated Again)
NO attacks on Iran!

How Obama & Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuses
http://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm

How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be
worth to America & the world?

If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of
identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a
global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop
this tragedy from happening? How many lives & Trillions of Dollars would
that save & be worth?


There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare & it is
totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium
(DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years
and causes cancer & chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable
genocidal birth deformities.

Iran is NO immediate threat & could be a friend of America; leave Iran
alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions & economic
sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng & extremely costly in every
human dimension.

It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a
"Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War,
camouflaged as the Department of Defense.

http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm (Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)

Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.


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<p>udarrell wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Okay all
you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were created from
nothing &amp; stay in their orbital positions!</font>
<br><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">How about this little planet
earth that over 6.5 billion human beings live on.</font>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Explain the initial beginning
of all that exists &amp; how it came about from a void.</font>
<br><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I believe the source is in
the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be able to explain that source.</font>
<br><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Therefore, what is impossible?</font></blockquote>
A plethora of scientific explanations have taken place since man learned
to read and write
<p>Our origins will be a tough task, but any sane person knows it was nothing
to do with any of man's gods
<p>The church constantly moves their goal posts in line with scientific
discovery and will always need to do so.
<br>&nbsp;
<blockquote TYPE=CITE><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"></font>&nbsp;
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The solution to injustice,
hatred &amp; terrorism leading to self-defeating modern warfare has its
solution in the Spiritual Resource Real.</font>
<br><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">One of the greatest needs
in our world today is - WISDOM.</font>
<br><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">- udarrell . com</font>
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THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES &amp; WISDOM Principled PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT
<a href="http://www.udarrell.com/" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.udarrell.com/</a> (Updated Again)&nbsp;
&nbsp;NO attacks on Iran!
How Obama &amp; Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuses
<a href="http://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm
</a>How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be worth to America &amp; the world?&nbsp;
If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this tragedy from happening? How many lives &amp; Trillions of Dollars would that save &amp; be worth?&nbsp;
There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare &amp; it is totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and causes cancer &amp; chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable genocidal birth deformities.
Iran is NO immediate threat &amp; could be a friend of America; leave Iran alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions &amp; economic sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng &amp; extremely costly in every human dimension.
It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged as the Department of Defense.
<a href="http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm</a> (Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)
Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.&nbsp;
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User: "Hugh Gibbons"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were createdfrom nothing! 09 Dec 2007 09:52:56 PM
In article <475B7FE4.3182357F@netvigator.com>,
bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe
galaxies were created from nothing & stay in their orbital
positions!

Nobody knows how the matter-energy in the universe came to
be. Any scientist affirms this is true. But those who believe
God created the universe claim to know something that they
obviously don't. How is that any better than attempting to learn
about the universe by studying how it works?
As for what keeps celestial objects in their orbits, Isaac Newton
solved that one three hundred years ago. Albert Einstein put
a tweak on his theory two centuries later, but it did not change
the basic nature of what Newton knew. They do it by themselves
and nothing other than the ordinary observable physical forces
cause it to happen.

How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion
human beings live on

What about it? The only thing unique about is that you are on it.
There may or may not be millions of other planets with living
things on them. So far, we only know of one, but our sample set
is still exceedingly small.
.
User: "bob young"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreatedfrom nothing! 16 Dec 2007 12:24:03 AM
Hugh Gibbons wrote:

In article <475B7FE4.3182357F@netvigator.com>,
bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe
galaxies were created from nothing & stay in their orbital
positions!


Nobody knows how the matter-energy in the universe came to
be. Any scientist affirms this is true. But those who believe
God created the universe claim to know something that they
obviously don't. How is that any better than attempting to learn
about the universe by studying how it works?

As for what keeps celestial objects in their orbits, Isaac Newton
solved that one three hundred years ago. Albert Einstein put
a tweak on his theory two centuries later, but it did not change
the basic nature of what Newton knew. They do it by themselves
and nothing other than the ordinary observable physical forces
cause it to happen.

How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion
human beings live on


What about it? The only thing unique about is that you are on it.
There may or may not be millions of other planets with living
things on them. So far, we only know of one, but our sample set
is still exceedingly small.

How true and when this human species dies out the universe will be
left to itsef.
Nothing remaining with the brain power to ask how it all started
The universe will carry on for billions of more years in quiet
ignorance, devoid of all of 'man's' gods
There's the possibility of course that the chimps after a million or
so years
may learn a simple language. They can then anticipate their first
chimp god; and the
chances are it will look remarkably chimplike
.
User: "Hugh Gibbons"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were createdfrom nothing! 17 Dec 2007 11:27:39 PM
In article <4764C403.F1CC49CA@netvigator.com>,
bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

How true and when this human species dies out the universe will be
left to itsef.

Nothing remaining with the brain power to ask how it all started

The universe will carry on for billions of more years in quiet
ignorance, devoid of all of 'man's' gods

There's the possibility of course that the chimps after a million or
so years
may learn a simple language. They can then anticipate their first
chimp god; and the
chances are it will look remarkably chimplike

Try to keep up, Bob. One of them is already President.
.

User: "Ben Kaufman"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were createdfrom nothing! 16 Dec 2007 12:49:12 PM
On 16 Dec 2007 00:24:03 -0600, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:



Hugh Gibbons wrote:

In article <475B7FE4.3182357F@netvigator.com>,
bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe
galaxies were created from nothing & stay in their orbital
positions!


Nobody knows how the matter-energy in the universe came to
be. Any scientist affirms this is true. But those who believe
God created the universe claim to know something that they
obviously don't. How is that any better than attempting to learn
about the universe by studying how it works?

As for what keeps celestial objects in their orbits, Isaac Newton
solved that one three hundred years ago. Albert Einstein put
a tweak on his theory two centuries later, but it did not change
the basic nature of what Newton knew. They do it by themselves
and nothing other than the ordinary observable physical forces
cause it to happen.

How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion
human beings live on


What about it? The only thing unique about is that you are on it.
There may or may not be millions of other planets with living
things on them. So far, we only know of one, but our sample set
is still exceedingly small.


How true and when this human species dies out the universe will be
left to itsef.

Nothing remaining with the brain power to ask how it all started

The universe will carry on for billions of more years in quiet
ignorance, devoid of all of 'man's' gods

There's the possibility of course that the chimps after a million or
so years
may learn a simple language. They can then anticipate their first
chimp god; and the
chances are it will look remarkably chimplike

check out "Planet of the Apes"
Ben
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User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were createdfrom nothing! 07 Dec 2007 11:23:47 PM
In article <Cfn6j.40753$G23.37065@newsreading01.news.tds.net>,
udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing ...
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension.

The Spiritual Dimension, hmmm? Sounds familiar...
They sang "My Beautiful Balloon", right?
--
David Canzi | Eternal truths come and go. |
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 08:06:02 AM
On 8 dec, 03:24, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.

Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it came about
from a void.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be
able to explain that source.
Therefore, what is impossible?

The solution to injustice, hatred & terrorism leading to self-defeating
modern warfare has its solution in the Spiritual Resource Real.
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.
- udarrell . com

--
WISDOM PRINCIPLED EMPOWERMENT COMMUNICATIONS -
THE REAL POLITICAL ISSUES & WISDOM Principled PEOPLE EMPOWERMENT

http://www.udarrell.com/(Updated Again)
NO attacks on Iran!

How Obama & Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuseshttp://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm

How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be worth to America & the world?

If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this tragedy from happening? How many lives & Trillions of Dollars would that save & be worth?

There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare & it is totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and causes cancer & chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable genocidal birth deformities.

Iran is NO immediate threat & could be a friend of America; leave Iran alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions & economic sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng & extremely costly in every human dimension.

It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged as the Department of Defense.

http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm(Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)

Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.

The spiritual - in my view - is all that exists solely in the (human)
mind.
As far as we now no such mind existed when galaxies were formed.
Therefor it is extremely unlikely that anything spiritual was
involved.
What actually did happen is up to cosmologist to theorize about
and astronomers to check up on with their radio-telescopes.
The lack of believe in a diety does not make one either a
cosmologists,
or an astronomer. ONe needs to go -to university to learn those
crafts.
So your question as put in the subjectline is not put in the right
NG's
Your political opinion as off topic with the subject line.
I do agree with you that bombing Iran - besides being a criminal act -
would do no good to nobody. But your suspicions on the Defence
department,
seem a littlebit unfounded,
Peter van Velzen
December 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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User: "Neil Kelsey"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 09:07:59 PM
On Dec 7, 6:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!

Why don't you try watching this online Nova program about some of the
recent theories on cosmology?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/origins/program-3114.html
Warning! Graphic use of scientific evidence and adult language, scenes
of vived reality. Theists should be accompanied by an adult.

How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.

Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it came about
from a void.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be
able to explain that source.

Right. No one can explain where the universe came from, therefore you
can explain it. Great argument.

Therefore, what is impossible?

Therefore? Don't know how you got to any therefores.

The solution to injustice, hatred & terrorism leading to self-defeating
modern warfare has its solution in the Spiritual Resource Real.
One of the greatest needs in our world today is - WISDOM.

I could use a drink, actually.

- udarrell . com

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http://www.udarrell.com/(Updated Again)
NO attacks on Iran!

How Obama & Edwards can Win over Hillary in the Iowa caucuseshttp://www.udarrell.com/iowa_primary_caucus_speeches.htm

How much can your Constructive Wisdom Principled Communicated Ideas be worth to America & the world?

If President Bush "unjustifiably" bombs the huge number (hundreds) of identified targets in Iran, there could be an oil shortage causing a global economic catastrophe. Could your effective communications stop this tragedy from happening? How many lives & Trillions of Dollars would that save & be worth?

There's nothing more unjust or terrorizing than modern warfare & it is totally self-defeating. He now has 30,000-lb 15-ton Depleted Uranium (DU) Bunker Busting bombs, the DU has a life of 4.5 billion deadly years and causes cancer & chromsome damage resulting in horrid unbelievable genocidal birth deformities.

Iran is NO immediate threat & could be a friend of America; leave Iran alone! NO economic sanctions either! Military actions & economic sanctions are fundamentally self-defeatng & extremely costly in every human dimension.

It time to identify the real enemies of humanity and create a "Department Of Peace - HR 808)" that will preempt the Department of War, camouflaged as the Department of Defense.

http://www.udarrell.com/my_pages2.htm(Gravel's Audio concerning Iran)
(* My Airconditioning Links, Hunting Shooting, Angus Cattle)

Reality Is Not An Easy Thing To Be Confronted With, or to ACCEPT.

Obviously you are stuggling with that.
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User: "David Schwartz"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 01:12:18 AM
On Dec 7, 6:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.
I believe the source is in the Spiritual dimension. No, we will never be
able to explain that source.
Therefore, what is impossible?

If you claimed that you could explain something that atheists could
not, you would have the start of an argument. You would show that some
religious beliefs had explanatory power, and that would be a major
argument in support of them at least being relevant.
However, since your position is that these things will never be able
to be explained, you have actually refuted your own argument.
Something that itself cannot be explained cannot explain anything
else. An incomprehensible explanation wouldn't actually explain
anything.
You can take anything that can't be explained today and complain that
any belief that anyone accepts doesn't explain that something. There
will always be things we haven't yet explained. I believe that I am
typing at my computer, but that doesn't explain how Jimmy Hoffa
disappeared. Now if some alternative view *did* and mine *didn't*,
that would be an argument for that alternative view. But an
alternative view that also doesn't explain how Jimmy Hoffa disappeared
is no better nor any worse for that lack.
You, however, have given up on any hope of understand and we have not.
That's the difference. You assert that some things can never be
explained and we do not. That's the difference.
See, when you can't explain something, you simply give up -- it can
never be explained. We find the explanations. That is why science
consistently adds to man's store of knowledge and understanding and
religion never does.
DS
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User: "Davej"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 08:48:06 PM
On Dec 7, 8:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!

It was all done by The Giant Magic Frog.
.
User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 07:40:45 AM
On Dec 8, 2:48 am, Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Dec 7, 8:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!


It was all done by The Giant Magic Frog.

http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9063882/Jean-Eugene-Robert-Houdin
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 10:02:28 AM
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 18:48:06 -0800, Davej wrote:

On Dec 7, 8:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!


It was all done by The Giant Magic Frog.

Heretic!
Obviously it was all done by the Great Emu.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Evolution is both fact and theory.
Creationism is neither.
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User: ""

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 01:46:04 PM
On Dec 7, 9:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's

Plural, not possesive.
Okay all you believers, explain why you are all illiterate morons.
-PF
.

User: "Father Haskell"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 18 Dec 2007 12:03:11 AM
On Dec 7, 9:24 pm, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies

I don't see those last two words in the buybull.
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User: "The Most Reverend Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN."

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 03:47:57 AM
On Dec 8, 2:24 am, udarrell <anonymo...@anonymous.com> wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!
How about this little planet earth that over 6.5 billion human beings
live on.

Explain the initial beginning of all that exists & how it came about
from a void.

The paucity of your education isn't my fault, neither is it my
problem. Take it back where you got it from and demand a refund.
.

User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 08:42:31 PM
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 +0000, udarrell wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing

Like this!
Were you watching?

& stay in their orbital positions!

Do tell, what do galaxies orbit?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
“Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and
begin to slit throats.”
- H. L. Mencken
.
User: "Olrik"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 07 Dec 2007 10:49:50 PM
On Dec 7, 9:42 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 +0000, udarrell wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing


Like this!

Were you watching?

& stay in their orbital positions!


Do tell, what do galaxies orbit?

They orbit each other! Duh!
Olrik

--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
"Every normal man must be tempted at times
to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and
begin to slit throats."

- H. L. Mencken

.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies werecreated from nothing! 08 Dec 2007 08:17:56 AM
On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:49:50 -0800, Olrik wrote:

On Dec 7, 9:42 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 +0000, udarrell wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing


Like this!

Were you watching?

& stay in their orbital positions!


Do tell, what do galaxies orbit?


They orbit each other! Duh!

No wonder I'm dizzy...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
------------------------------------------------------------
Let me get this straight: You believe that a cosmic Jewish
zombie who was his own father will let you live forever
if you pretend to eat his flesh, drink his blood, and
telepathically tell him that you accept him as your master,
so he can remove an evil force from your soul that he put
there a long time ago as punishment for all humanity because
a rib-woman made from a dust-man was convinced by a talking
snake to eat fruit from a magical tree.
- Unknown
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 22 Dec 2007 07:34:36 PM
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 08:17:56 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:49:50 -0800, Olrik wrote:

On Dec 7, 9:42 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gm...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 +0000, udarrell wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing


Like this!

Were you watching?

& stay in their orbital positions!


Do tell, what do galaxies orbit?


They orbit each other! Duh!


No wonder I'm dizzy...

Dos-y-do.
.




User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 22 Dec 2007 07:32:31 PM
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!

Kimba the White Lion did it and used lots of duct tape.
[]
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User: "Robibnikoff"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 23 Dec 2007 06:21:46 AM
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!


Kimba the White Lion did it and used lots of duct tape.

SNORT! That's a blast from the past! :)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 26 Dec 2007 03:54:58 AM
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!


Kimba the White Lion did it and used lots of duct tape.


SNORT! That's a blast from the past! :)

So is "Astroboy" which is currently being shown
on the Cartoon Channel. I haven't seen that
since I was a kid. The background, when they
aren't using music, sounds like "Forbidden Planet".
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
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Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 25 Dec 2007 10:33:01 PM
On Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:21:46 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:


"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:0kerm35golpf6fjagqdnp8m95q5mqvsaol@4ax.com...

On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!


Kimba the White Lion did it and used lots of duct tape.


SNORT! That's a blast from the past! :)

Hheheheh. Indeed.
.



User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the galaxies were created from nothing! 22 Dec 2007 07:33:02 PM
On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 02:24:34 GMT, udarrell <anonymousl@anonymous.com>
wrote:

Okay all you unbeliever's explain how all the universe galaxies were
created from nothing & stay in their orbital positions!

Kimba the White Lion did it and used lots of duct tape.
[]
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