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<div align=3D"center"><font color=3D"#ff0000"><b><br>
IN NET NEWS JUNE 25, 2007.</b></font><br>
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<div align=3D"center"><font color=3D"#3333ff"><b>=A0<big><big><big>John
Hancock Thus Spake:<br>
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</big></big></big></b></font></div>
<b><br>
<br>
<br>
<font color=3D"#ff0000">IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776.</font><br>
THE UNANIMOUS<br>
DECLARATION=A0 OF THE THIRTEEN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.<br>
<br>
WHEN, in the Course of human Events, it becomes necessary for one
People <br>
=A0to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with
another, and to<br>
=A0assume, among the Powers of the Earth, the separate and equal Station
to <br>
=A0which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's GOD entitle them, a decent
Respect to<br>
=A0the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare the Causes
which <br>
=A0impel them to the Separation.<br>
<br>
=A0We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
equal, <br>
=A0that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable
Rights,<br>
=A0that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.<br>
<br>
=A0 --That to secure these Rights, Governments are instituted among Men, =
<br>
deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that
whenever <br>
any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the
Right of <br>
the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government --<=
br>
laying its Foundation on such Principles, and organizing its Powers in
such Form, <br>
as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
Prudence, <br>
indeed, will dictate, that Governments long established, should not be
changed<br>
=A0for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath
shewn, <br>
that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable,
than to <br>
right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. <b=
r>
<br>
But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably
the <br>
same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, <b=
r>
it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and
to provide <br>
new Guards for their future Security. Such has been the patient
Sufferance of <br>
these Colonies; and such is now the Necessity which constrains them to
alter <br>
their former Systems of Government. <br>
<br>
The History of the present King of Great-Britain is a History of
repeated <br>
Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment
of <br>
an absolute Tyranny over these States. <br>
<br>
To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World.<br>
=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has refused his Assent to Laws,
the most wholesome and necessary for <br>
=A0=A0 the public Good.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has forbidden his Governors to
pass Laws of immediate and pressing <br>
=A0=A0 Importance, unless suspended in their Operation till his Assent
should be<br>
=A0=A0 obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to atten=
d
to them.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE</font> has refused to pass other Law=
s for
the Accommodation of large Districts <br>
=A0=A0=A0 of People, unless those People would relinquish the Right of
Representation <br>
=A0=A0=A0 in the Legislature, a Right inestimable to them, and formidable=
to
Tyranny only.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE</font> has called together Legislati=
ve
Bodies at Places unusual, uncomfortable, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 and distant from the Depository of their public Records, for th=
e
sole Purpose<br>
=A0 =A0 of fatiguing them into Compliance with his Measures.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has dissolved Representative
Houses repeatedly, for opposing with <br>
=A0=A0=A0 manly Firmness his Invasions on the Rights of the People.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has refused for a long Time,
after such Dissolutions, to cause others to <br>
=A0=A0=A0 be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of
Annihilation, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the St=
ate
remaining, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 in the mean Time, exposed to all the Dangers of Invasion from
without, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 and Convulsions within.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has endeavoured to prevent th=
e
Population of these States; for that <br>
=A0=A0=A0 Purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners;
refusing to<br>
=A0=A0=A0 pass others to encourage their Migrations hither, and raising t=
he
Conditions<br>
=A0 =A0 of new Appropriations of Lands.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE</font> has obstructed the Administra=
tion
of Justice, by refusing his Assent to <br>
=A0=A0=A0 Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE </font>has made Judges dependent on =
his
Will alone, for the Tenure of their <br>
=A0=A0=A0 Offices, and the Amount and Payment of their Salaries.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE </font>has erected a Multitude of ne=
w
Offices, and sent hither Swarms of <br>
=A0=A0=A0 Officers to harrass our People, and eat out their Substance.<br=
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has kept among us, in Times o=
f
Peace, Standing Armies, without the<br>
=A0 =A0 Consent of our Legislatures.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has affected to render the
Military independent of and superior to <br>
=A0=A0=A0 the Civil Power.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE</font> has combined with others to s=
ubject
us to a Jurisdiction foreign to our<br>
=A0 =A0 Constitution, and unacknowledged by our Laws; giving his Assent t=
o
their <br>
=A0=A0=A0 Acts of pretended Legislation:<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among u=
s:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishme=
nt for any
Murders <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 which they should commit on=
the Inhabitants of these
States:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR cutting off our Trade with all Parts of the Wor=
ld:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefits of=
Trial by
Jury:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pre=
tended
Offences:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR abolishing the free System of English Laws in a ne=
ighbouring
Province,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 establishing therein an arbitrary Government, and=
enlarging
its <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Boundaries, so as to render it at once an =
Example and fit
Instrument for <br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0 introducing the same absolute Rule into these Colo=
nies:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuabl=
e Laws,
and <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 altering fundamentally the Forms of our Go=
vernments:<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 FOR suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themse=
lves
invested <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 with Power to legislate for us in al=
l Cases whatsoever.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE</font> has abdicated Governmen=
t here, by
declaring us out of his
Protection, <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 and waging War against us.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE </font>has plundered our Seas, ra=
vaged
our Coasts, burnt our Towns,
and <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 destroyed the Lives of our People.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>is, at this Time, transpor=
ting
large Armies of foreign
Mercenaries to <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 complete the Works of Death, Desolation, and Tyr=
anny, already
begun <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 with Circumstances of Cruelty and Perfidy, scarc=
ely paralleled
in the most <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 barbarous Ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a =
civilized
Nation.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0<font color=3D"#ff0000"> HE </font>has constrained our
Fellow-Citizens, taken Captive on the high
Seas,<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 to bear Arms against their Country, to become the E=
xecutioners
of their<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0=A0 Friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands=
=2E<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 <font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>has excited domestic
Insurrections amongst us, and has
endeavoured<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the mercile=
ss
Indian Savages,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destru=
ction,
of all Ages,<br>
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Sexes, and Conditions.<br>
<br>
IN every Stage of these Oppressions we have Petitioned for Redress in
the <br>
=A0=A0=A0 most humble Terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered on=
ly
by <br>
=A0=A0=A0 repeated Injury. A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by ev=
ery
Act <br>
=A0=A0 which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the Ruler of a free Peop=
le.<br>
<br>
NOR have we been wanting in Attentions to our British Brethren. We have
<br>
=A0=A0 warned them, from Time to Time, of Attempts by their Legislature t=
o <br>
=A0=A0 extend an unwarrantable Jurisdiction over us. We have reminded the=
m <br>
=A0=A0 of the Circumstances of our Emigration and Settlement here. We hav=
e <br>
=A0=A0 appealed to their native Justice and Magnanimity, and we have
conjured <br>
=A0=A0 them by the Ties of our common Kindred to disavow these Usurpation=
s,
<br>
=A0=A0 which would inevitably interrupt our Connexions and Correspondence=
=2E <br>
<br>
They too have been deaf to the Voice of Justice and of Consanguinity. <br=
<br>
<big><big><font color=3D"#3366ff">We </font></big></big>must, therefore,
acquiesce in the Necessity, which denounces our <br>
Separation, and hold them, as we hold the Rest of Mankind, Enemies in
War, <br>
in Peace Friends.<br>
<br>
<big><font color=3D"#3366ff"><big>WE</big></font></big>, therefore, the
Representatives of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,<br>
=A0 =A0 in GENERAL CONGRESS Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge <br=
=A0=A0=A0 of the World for the Rectitude of our Intentions, do, in the Na=
me,
and <br>
=A0=A0=A0 by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly Pub=
lish
<br>
=A0=A0=A0 and Declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought=
to
be, <br>
=A0=A0 FREE AND INDEPENDENT STATES; <br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0 that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the British Cr=
own,
and that all<br>
=A0 =A0=A0 political Connexion between them and the State of Great-Britai=
n,
is,=A0 and <br>
=A0=A0=A0 ought to be, totally dissolved; and that as FREE AND INDEPENDEN=
T
STATES, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract
Alliances, <br>
=A0=A0=A0 establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which <=
br>
=A0=A0 INDEPENDENT STATES may of Right do. And for the Support of this <b=
r>
=A0=A0 Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of DIVINE
PROVIDENCE,<br>
=A0=A0=A0 we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and o=
ur
sacred Honour.<br>
<br>
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 John Hancock.<br>
<br>
GEORGIA, Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, Geo. Walton.<br>
NORTH-CAROLINA, Wm. Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn.<br>
SOUTH-CAROLINA, Edward Rutledge, Thos Heyward, junr. Thomas Lynch,
junr. Arthur Middleton.<br>
MARYLAND, Samuel Chase, Wm. Paca, Thos. Stone, Charles Carroll, of
Carrollton.<br>
VIRGINIA, George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Ths. Jefferson, Benja.
Harrison, Thos. Nelson, jr. Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton.<br>
PENNSYLVANIA, Robt. Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benja. Franklin, John
Morton, Geo. Clymer, Jas. Smith, Geo. Taylor, James Wilson, Geo. Ross.<br=
DELAWARE, Caesar Rodney, Geo. Read.<br>
NEW-YORK, Wm. Floyd, Phil. Livingston, Frank Lewis, Lewis Morris.<br>
NEW-JERSEY, Richd. Stockton, Jno. Witherspoon, Fras. Hopkinson, John
Hart, Abra. Clark.<br>
NEW-HAMPSHIRE, Josiah Bartlett, Wm. Whipple, Matthew Thornton.<br>
MASSACHUSETTS-BAY, Saml. Adams, John Adams, Robt. Treat Paine, Elbridge
Gerry.<br>
RHODE-ISLAND AND PROVIDENCE, &c. Step. Hopkins, William Ellery.<br>
CONNECTICUT, Roger Sherman, Saml. Huntington, Wm. Williams, Oliver
Wolcott.<br>
<br>
IN CONGRESS, JANUARY 18, 1777.<br>
<br>
<font color=3D"#ff0000">ORDERED,</font><br>
THAT an authenticated Copy of the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCY, with the
Names of the MEMBERS of CONGRESS, subscribing the same, be sent to each
of the UNITED STATES, and that they be desired to have the same put on
RECORD.<br>
<font color=3D"#ff0000">=A0=A0=A0 By Order of CONGRESS,</font><br>
<br>
</b>
<div align=3D"center"><b><font color=3D"#3333ff">JOHN HANCOCK, <font
color=3D"#ff0000">President.</font></font></b><br>
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</big></big></b>
<div align=3D"center">
<div align=3D"center"><b><font color=3D"#ff0000">HE </font>=3D G W Bush.<=
br>
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| User: "Dave in Lake Villa" |
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| Title: Re: ONCE UPON A TIME... NOT TOO LONG AGO... |
22 Aug 2007 08:18:26 PM |
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'We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
equal,
=A0that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable
Rights,
=A0that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness'
REPLY: Sadly today in america, we are under the 'FEEL GOOD' philosophy
of Secular Humanism whereby absolute truth has been replaced by
relative 'truth' based on situational 'ethics' . And, the rights that
were once given by the personal Creator involving godly living,
morality, and right principles in mind....are freedoms that have been
conveniently twisted so one can have the Liberty of living as he/she
likes with the greatest dissent being : A womans 'Liberty' to murder
even her own developing child (at the rate of 4,000 per day) in the
womb so her 'Right' of sexual 'Freedom' can continue to add to the
degradation of this once great nation that used to be Under God.
Rest assured, that, John Hancock and the Fellas would be utterly
disheartened to see the outcome of America thru the willful suppression
of Moral Conscience in order to accumulate all the gusto one can get in
the allotted time remaining .
Quote from Sir Arthur Keith, a noted anthropologist and devout Darwinian
Evolutionist : " Evolution is unproved and unprovable . We believe it
because the only alternative is special creation, and that is
unthinkable"
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| User: "James Dale Guckert" |
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| Title: Re: ONCE UPON A TIME... NOT TOO LONG AGO... |
23 Aug 2007 02:25:19 AM |
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In article <25266-46CC9A12-14@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>,
(Dave in Lake Villa) wrote:
REPLY: Sadly today in america, we are under the 'FEEL GOOD' philosophy
of Secular Humanism whereby absolute truth has been replaced by
relative 'truth' based on situational 'ethics' . And, the rights that
were once given by the personal Creator involving godly living,
morality, and right principles in mind....are freedoms that have been
conveniently twisted so one can have the Liberty of living as he/she
likes with the greatest dissent being : A womans 'Liberty' to murder
even her own developing child (at the rate of 4,000 per day) in the
womb so her 'Right' of sexual 'Freedom' can continue to add to the
degradation of this once great nation that used to be Under God.
Rest assured, that, John Hancock and the Fellas would be utterly
disheartened to see the outcome of America thru the willful suppression
of Moral Conscience in order to accumulate all the gusto one can get in
the allotted time remaining .
Ah, the deliciously mixed-up word salad that is a spew from the rotted
log that is the mind of "Dave in Lake Villa."
Always good for a laugh.
May he never learn to write... may he never learn to form a coherent
thought.
--
James Guckert / Rich Gannon / ***** for Bush
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re: ONCE UPON A TIME... NOT TOO LONG AGO... |
22 Aug 2007 10:10:35 PM |
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On Aug 22, 1:18 pm, (Dave in Lake Villa)
wrote:
'We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created
equal,
that they are endowed, by their CREATOR, with certain unalienable
Rights,
that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness'
REPLY: Sadly today in america, we are under the 'FEEL GOOD' philosophy
of Secular Humanism whereby absolute truth has been replaced by
relative 'truth' based on situational 'ethics' . And, the rights that
were once given by the personal Creator involving godly living,
morality, and right principles in mind....are freedoms that have been
conveniently twisted so one can have the Liberty of living as he/she
likes with the greatest dissent being : A womans 'Liberty' to murder
even her own developing child (at the rate of 4,000 per day) in the
womb so her 'Right' of sexual 'Freedom' can continue to add to the
degradation of this once great nation that used to be Under God.
Rest assured, that, John Hancock and the Fellas would be utterly
disheartened to see the outcome of America thru the willful suppression
of Moral Conscience in order to accumulate all the gusto one can get in
the allotted time remaining .
Quote from Sir Arthur Keith, a noted anthropologist and devout Darwinian
Evolutionist : " Evolution is unproved and unprovable . We believe it
because the only alternative is special creation, and that is
unthinkable"
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| User: "Ken" |
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| Title: Re: ONCE UPON A TIME... NOT TOO LONG AGO... |
22 Aug 2007 10:11:43 PM |
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On Aug 22, 1:18 pm, (Dave in Lake Villa)
wrote:
Quote from Sir Arthur Keith, a noted anthropologist and devout Darwinian
Evolutionist : " Evolution is unproved and unprovable . We believe it
because the only alternative is special creation, and that is
unthinkable"
Sir Arthur Keith Quotes
Address:http://www.people.ubr.com/education/by-first-name/s/sir-arthur-keith
REPLY: FUCKHEAD!
Page Not Found
We're sorry, but we could not find your page. Does one of these
pages
look like what you're looking for?
BUT there was some reference to some guy calling himself Sir Arthur
Keith who quoted himself (Member Since: 3/13/2007 who is on rather
shaky ground, to say the least, as the real person died on January 7,
1955)
As usual, your refercences are FULL OF *****!
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