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27 Nov 2005 07:50:33 PM |
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One Christianity, Two Versions |
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
27 Nov 2005 09:21:57 PM |
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<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 03:41:34 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 08:54:23 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:i1vko1pqle5pioup659t5njhu1gssvefo1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
The Romans called the Christians atheists because they didn't believe in
Roman gods.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 08:07:28 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:i1vko1pqle5pioup659t5njhu1gssvefo1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
That's Greco-Roman
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism, atheism would be the default. It just wouldn't
have a name, since that wouldn't be needed. Theism wouldn't
exist, so there wouldn't be anything to be without. That would
be a dream come true.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 04:32:37 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:07:28 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:i1vko1pqle5pioup659t5njhu1gssvefo1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
That's Greco-Roman
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism, atheism would be the default. It just wouldn't
have a name, since that wouldn't be needed. Theism wouldn't
exist, so there wouldn't be anything to be without. That would
be a dream come true.
Yet the default through out history has been theism. Why do you
suppose that is? It is an axiom that behavior that is rewarded
persists.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: " Malto" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 08:26:26 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:tlbmo15ctibbeuund8ma1ip5ut3faeimnm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:07:28 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:i1vko1pqle5pioup659t5njhu1gssvefo1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
That's Greco-Roman
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism, atheism would be the default. It just wouldn't
have a name, since that wouldn't be needed. Theism wouldn't
exist, so there wouldn't be anything to be without. That would
be a dream come true.
Yet the default through out history has been theism.
Nonsense.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 02:46:30 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:26:26 +1100, " Malto" <.Malto@offski.commiee>
wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:tlbmo15ctibbeuund8ma1ip5ut3faeimnm@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:07:28 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:i1vko1pqle5pioup659t5njhu1gssvefo1@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
That's Greco-Roman
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism, atheism would be the default. It just wouldn't
have a name, since that wouldn't be needed. Theism wouldn't
exist, so there wouldn't be anything to be without. That would
be a dream come true.
Yet the default through out history has been theism.
Nonsense.
84% of the current world population adheres to some form of religion.
I don't suspect the percentage in the past was much less. Seems like
the default position to me.
http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 02:09:51 AM |
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On 2005-11-28 08:32:37 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
Yet the default through out history has been theism. Why do you
suppose that is? It is an axiom that behavior that is rewarded
persists.
A partial list of rewarded "defaults" throughout history: genocide,
crime, warfare, religion (some of them), racial hatred, slavery,
imperialism...
A partial list of punished "defaults" throughout history: reason,
scientific pursuit, religion (some of them), atheism...
And, of course, there are many intersections among the above. So, CC,
what was your point again?
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 03:04:47 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:09:51 GMT, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
On 2005-11-28 08:32:37 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
Yet the default through out history has been theism. Why do you
suppose that is? It is an axiom that behavior that is rewarded
persists.
A partial list of rewarded "defaults" throughout history: genocide,
crime, warfare, religion (some of them), racial hatred, slavery,
imperialism...
A partial list of punished "defaults" throughout history: reason,
scientific pursuit, religion (some of them), atheism...
And, of course, there are many intersections among the above. So, CC,
what was your point again?
Atheists and Theists feed of each other. For the most part Theists are
winning.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
30 Nov 2005 02:39:22 AM |
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On 2005-11-28 19:04:47 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:09:51 GMT, 655321
< > wrote:
On 2005-11-28 08:32:37 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
Yet the default through out history has been theism. Why do you
suppose that is? It is an axiom that behavior that is rewarded
persists.
A partial list of rewarded "defaults" throughout history: genocide,
crime, warfare, religion (some of them), racial hatred, slavery,
imperialism...
A partial list of punished "defaults" throughout history: reason,
scientific pursuit, religion (some of them), atheism...
And, of course, there are many intersections among the above. So, CC,
what was your point again?
Atheists and Theists feed of each other.
You might eath atheists (Isn't that criminal?), but I have no appetite
for theists, or people in general.
For the most part Theists are winning.
Winning what, exactly? The special olympics?
You really have trouble with cogent thought, don't you?
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"My bible is accurate where it needs to be." --Earl "duke" Webber
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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30 Nov 2005 06:44:15 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:39:22 GMT, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
On 2005-11-28 19:04:47 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:09:51 GMT, 655321
<DipthotDipthot@Yahoo.Yahoo.Com.Com> wrote:
On 2005-11-28 08:32:37 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
Yet the default through out history has been theism. Why do you
suppose that is? It is an axiom that behavior that is rewarded
persists.
A partial list of rewarded "defaults" throughout history: genocide,
crime, warfare, religion (some of them), racial hatred, slavery,
imperialism...
A partial list of punished "defaults" throughout history: reason,
scientific pursuit, religion (some of them), atheism...
And, of course, there are many intersections among the above. So, CC,
what was your point again?
Atheists and Theists feed of each other.
You might eath atheists (Isn't that criminal?), but I have no appetite
for theists, or people in general.
For the most part Theists are winning.
Winning what, exactly? The special olympics?
The hearts and minds of the world.
You really have trouble with cogent thought, don't you?
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 06:28:47 AM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 07:16:41 AM |
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On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: " Malto" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 07:24:59 AM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:ffblo1ttd9gl9ut2s5pupnjmecsn9ppgvp@4ax.com...
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam
on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Oh for christ's sake, ***** with the cornball cereal packet platitiudes.
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28 Nov 2005 03:48:10 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
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If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
LOL - Hardly.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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28 Nov 2005 04:21:46 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:48:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
snip
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
LOL - Hardly.
Yet you post. Astounding.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 07:46:24 PM |
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"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
news:3kbmo154up271ie6ubenk3p23ttg2sfbka@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:48:10 -0500, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"Captain Compassion" <daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message
snip
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
LOL - Hardly.
Yet you post. Astounding.
Yet, you respond. Ridiculous.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 01:38:01 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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28 Nov 2005 04:20:41 PM |
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On 28 Nov 2005 05:38:01 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
Turnoff your TV, Radio and stop going to church.
Your desire not to hear about unicorns creates no obligation in others
not to talk about them.
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
28 Nov 2005 05:27:22 PM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 05:38:01 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
Turnoff your TV, Radio and stop going to church.
I do not watch TV., listen to the radio, or go to church. For the most
part. I still watch the Daily Show and [adult swim] if I remember.
Your desire not to hear about unicorns creates no obligation in others
not to talk about them.
Right. But it's a matter of simple respect. alt.atheism is an atheist
newsgroup. Theist nonsense does not belong here. That is the point I've
been making, while you spew on about how atheism is meaningless without
theism, which makes theist postings no less disrespectful or irrelevant.
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29 Nov 2005 02:59:11 AM |
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On 28 Nov 2005 09:27:22 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 05:38:01 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
Turnoff your TV, Radio and stop going to church.
I do not watch TV., listen to the radio, or go to church. For the most
part. I still watch the Daily Show and [adult swim] if I remember.
Adult Swim rocks. That's why God invented TIVO.
Your desire not to hear about unicorns creates no obligation in others
not to talk about them.
Right. But it's a matter of simple respect. alt.atheism is an atheist
newsgroup. Theist nonsense does not belong here. That is the point I've
been making, while you spew on about how atheism is meaningless without
theism, which makes theist postings no less disrespectful or irrelevant.
It is the happy lot of the agnostic sit back and watch both groups in
mirthful wonderment.
If there were no theists what would the folks on alt.atheism talk
about?
Would you swap recipes? Talk about the weather? Start swapping nude
pictures of yourselves?
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "Chris Johnson" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 03:54:37 AM |
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Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 09:27:22 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 05:38:01 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
Turnoff your TV, Radio and stop going to church.
I do not watch TV., listen to the radio, or go to church. For the most
part. I still watch the Daily Show and [adult swim] if I remember.
Adult Swim rocks. That's why God invented TIVO.
Meh. I don't miss them enough to invest in a Tivo. I'll just get Family
Guy and ATHF on DVD. Or borrow them from a friend..
Your desire not to hear about unicorns creates no obligation in others
not to talk about them.
Right. But it's a matter of simple respect. alt.atheism is an atheist
newsgroup. Theist nonsense does not belong here. That is the point I've
been making, while you spew on about how atheism is meaningless without
theism, which makes theist postings no less disrespectful or irrelevant.
It is the happy lot of the agnostic sit back and watch both groups in
mirthful wonderment.
Are you an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist? I'm not sure I've met
an agnostic that truly straddles the fence. I knew one that thought
there was a god but could not say for sure or pick a single one. Many
atheists I know simply apply Occam's razor to the problem, so they
could be called agnostic atheists or weak atheists (as I understand it,
those are pretty much the same. I'm sure somebody here will explain the
difference if I'm wrong). I fall a little more strongly atheist than
true weak atheism regarding the Christian god.
If there were no theists what would the folks on alt.atheism talk
about?
If there were no theists, this newsgroup would not exist. Hell, if
theists were just a wierd minority, this newsgroup wouldn't exist.
Would you swap recipes? Talk about the weather? Start swapping nude
pictures of yourselves?
Incidentally, I have seen recipes swapped here. But it's more a forum
to discuss issues common to atheists. For instance separation of church
and state and how others deal with the theists around them. There are
some places where pretty much everybody is a devout religionist of one
sort or another, so they don't have anywhere else to discuss these
things without facing harsh words and worse.
Unfortunately, theists seem to take this newsgroup as a giant
invitation to spread their favorite flavor of god.
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 04:50:56 AM |
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On 28 Nov 2005 19:54:37 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 09:27:22 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 05:38:01 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On 27 Nov 2005 22:28:47 -0800, "Chris Johnson" <effigies@gmail.com>
wrote:
Captain Compassion wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
And this means that we want to hear theist drivel? I don't see how that
follows.
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists. Theists give
you guys meaning.
Yes. I understood your point the first time. What you have not
addressed is why an atheist would want to hear theist drivel. Not
believing in unicorns does not mean I wish to hear about unicorns.
Turnoff your TV, Radio and stop going to church.
I do not watch TV., listen to the radio, or go to church. For the most
part. I still watch the Daily Show and [adult swim] if I remember.
Adult Swim rocks. That's why God invented TIVO.
Meh. I don't miss them enough to invest in a Tivo. I'll just get Family
Guy and ATHF on DVD. Or borrow them from a friend..
Your desire not to hear about unicorns creates no obligation in others
not to talk about them.
Right. But it's a matter of simple respect. alt.atheism is an atheist
newsgroup. Theist nonsense does not belong here. That is the point I've
been making, while you spew on about how atheism is meaningless without
theism, which makes theist postings no less disrespectful or irrelevant.
It is the happy lot of the agnostic sit back and watch both groups in
mirthful wonderment.
Are you an agnostic atheist or agnostic theist? I'm not sure I've met
an agnostic that truly straddles the fence. I knew one that thought
there was a god but could not say for sure or pick a single one. Many
atheists I know simply apply Occam's razor to the problem, so they
could be called agnostic atheists or weak atheists (as I understand it,
those are pretty much the same. I'm sure somebody here will explain the
difference if I'm wrong). I fall a little more strongly atheist than
true weak atheism regarding the Christian god.
If there were no theists what would the folks on alt.atheism talk
about?
If there were no theists, this newsgroup would not exist. Hell, if
theists were just a wierd minority, this newsgroup wouldn't exist.
Would you swap recipes? Talk about the weather? Start swapping nude
pictures of yourselves?
Incidentally, I have seen recipes swapped here. But it's more a forum
to discuss issues common to atheists. For instance separation of church
and state and how others deal with the theists around them. There are
some places where pretty much everybody is a devout religionist of one
sort or another, so they don't have anywhere else to discuss these
things without facing harsh words and worse.
Unfortunately, theists seem to take this newsgroup as a giant
invitation to spread their favorite flavor of god.
How could Theists fail to go where the sinners are,
Just a common Agnostic. I make no personal statement beyond the fact
that I can not know.
I take an old school position on Atheism vs Theism. You are either one
or the other.
"By the Atheist I understand the man who not only holds off, like the
sceptic, from the affirmative, but who drives himself, or is driven,
to the negative assertion in regard to the whole unseen, or to the
existence of God." -- Gladstone
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "655321" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 02:02:40 AM |
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On 2005-11-27 23:16:41 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> said:
If there weren't theists then there would be no atheists.
If there weren't theists then *everyone* would be an atheist... or the
theists have died (or took off somewhere) leaving the atheists
remaining. One or the other.
--
GlennGlenn (655321) -- aa#825 --
"Genocide is used sparingly by God in only extreme circumstances." -Jim Spaza
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| User: "erikc" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 07:19:12 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:41:34 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism there would be no atheism to be meaningless.
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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| User: "Captain Compassion" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 03:58:45 PM |
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:19:12 -0600, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net>
wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:41:34 -0800, Captain Compassion
<daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:57 GMT, "Dale" <dmgreer@nspm.airmail.net>
wrote:
<Codebreaker@bigsecret.com> wrote in message
news:1133121033.679076.302690@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Why is this in alt.atheism?
Because without theism atheism would be meaningless.
Without theism there would be no atheism to be meaningless.
Exactly.
So.... Are their social clubs for Atheists where boy Atheists can meet
girl Atheists?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
--
"The president and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing
their memory, or their backbone, but we're not going to sit by and
let them rewrite history." -- ***** Cheney 11/16/2005
"War is God's way of teaching Americans geography" -- Ambrose Bierce
"America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy." -- John Updike
"Long term commitment in relationships is only necessary because it takes
so damn long to raise children. Marriage may well be some kind of trick
to keep the males around beyond sexual satiation." -- Captain Compassion
"Progress is the increasing control of the environment by life.
--Will Durant
Joseph R. Darancette
daranc@NOSPAMverizon.net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
13 Dec 2005 06:48:10 PM |
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wrote:
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Fellows, the fight to reclaim Jesus the Messiah of Israel
from Rome and Gentiles monopoly began with MOHAMMAD.
We shall carry it on
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| User: "E.L. Chamberlain" |
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28 Nov 2005 04:01:27 AM |
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wrote:
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Christianity is mindless BS, just like Islam and other religions.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 03:33:46 AM |
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E.L. Chamberlain wrote:
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Christianity is mindless BS, just like Islam and other religions.
Christianity includes Islam, jerk
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: One Christianity, Two Versions |
29 Nov 2005 03:35:22 AM |
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E.L. Chamberlain wrote:
Codebreaker@bigsecret.com wrote:
The Greeco-Roman version of Christianity known as Catholicism or
Orthodoxy
has been trying hard to monopolize Jesus.
The Hebraic or semetic version of Christianity also known as Islam on
the other
hand has...
Christianity is mindless BS, just like Islam and other religions.
This is a proof that you are at a loss about the points put forward
in the
Bible
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