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31 Dec 2006 11:56:25 PM |
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one more year over, still no god |
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 01:48:46 PM |
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"ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote in message
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after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Oh but he died, don't you know. He was a 1st-century Jew named 'Jesus', so
many say. Well at least *some* people claim that he died. But how in the
hell does a 'God' die?
What is meant here by 'Christians' in the know is that a 'human' named
'Jesus of Nazareth' was 'possessed' by deity -- but was somehow 'pitched' as
being *truly* human in spite of being part-deity -- and that it was just the
'flesh-and-blood', *human* part of deity that was tortured, crucified, and
subsequently *died* -- not the 'deity' part! (How on *earth* could 'God the
Father' and Mr. 'God-Gas God' (the 'Holy Spirit') have actually *died*, you
knuckleheads???
So it was just a human 'costume' that died. He merged back with the
one-third part of 'deity' that makes up the one true 'God' *after* all the
agony, suffering, and death -- which, the 'deity' part of Jesus never took
part in or 'experienced', was over. He now sits on a throne all bloody,
stinky, and 'tortured looking' in a 'body' which His 'Son-ness' soon
're-possessed' via his 'spirit'; that one-third part of the three parts that
make one 'God'.
Or ... was the 'human body' part of Jesus quietly discarded and left to rot
and decay like any other 'human' body? 'God', it seems, chose not to reveal
what *physically* happened to the 'human' part of Jesus' deity-possessed
body. Or even whether or not Jesus (both the 'human' and the 'deity' ones)
is/are sitting on his/their unimaginably magnificent, though 'humble'
throne, butt-naked! I find it rather curious that 'God' says nothing about
all this. Neither does Jesus -- *either* 'part' of them! Oh, I forget they
all are just *one* 'God', aren't they? And he's absolutely incapable of
giving us the 'low-down' on all this from the 'lips' of his own mouth, isn't
he?
Greywolf
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 02:23:41 PM |
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"Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote in message
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"ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote in message
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after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Oh but he died, don't you know. He was a 1st-century Jew named 'Jesus', so
many say. Well at least *some* people claim that he died. But how in the
hell does a 'God' die?
What is meant here by 'Christians' in the know is that a 'human' named
'Jesus of Nazareth' was 'possessed' by deity -- but was somehow 'pitched'
as being *truly* human in spite of being part-deity -- and that it was
just the 'flesh-and-blood', *human* part of deity that was tortured,
crucified, and subsequently *died* -- not the 'deity' part! (How on
*earth* could 'God the Father' and Mr. 'God-Gas God' (the 'Holy Spirit')
have actually *died*, you knuckleheads???
So it was just a human 'costume' that died. He merged back with the
one-third part of 'deity' that makes up the one true 'God' *after* all the
agony, suffering, and death -- which, the 'deity' part of Jesus never took
part in or 'experienced', was over. He now sits on a throne all bloody,
stinky, and 'tortured looking' in a 'body' which His 'Son-ness' soon
're-possessed' via his 'spirit'; that one-third part of the three parts
that make one 'God'.
Or ... was the 'human body' part of Jesus quietly discarded and left to
rot and decay like any other 'human' body? 'God', it seems, chose not to
reveal what *physically* happened to the 'human' part of Jesus'
deity-possessed body. Or even whether or not Jesus (both the 'human' and
the 'deity' ones) is/are sitting on his/their unimaginably magnificent,
though 'humble' throne, butt-naked! I find it rather curious that 'God'
says nothing about all this. Neither does Jesus -- *either* 'part' of
them! Oh, I forget they all are just *one* 'God', aren't they? And he's
absolutely incapable of giving us the 'low-down' on all this from the
'lips' of his own mouth, isn't he?
Greywolf
Oh. I forgot. The 'flesh became spirit', eh'? So instead of rotting and
decaying like a 'truly' human body would. 'God' -- I'm not sure which 'part'
of the three 'parts' that make up 'God' would have made the decision to
'morph' the human body into a 'spirit', or whether the 'human' body of Jesus
ever stepped foot in 'heaven' -- decided he didn't want no part of stinkin'
up heaven and drawing flies and so 'morphed' that part of that human part of
himself (that is to say, his human 'costume') that was stinkin' up the place
and reverted back to the 'old', pre-supernaturally sex-begotten 'self', eh'?
Well, if that's what you believe, that's what you believe.
But then one needs to explain how the 'deity' part of Jesus 'died'. That
would mean that 'God' the 'Father' *and* 'God'-Gas God would have had to
have *died* (and leave the universe completely *unattended* to in the
process) too, wouldn't it?
How goofy does it get, eh', 'Christians'?
Greywolf
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 06:58:53 PM |
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:48:46 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote:
Oh but he died, don't you know. He was a 1st-century Jew named 'Jesus', so
many say. Well at least *some* people claim that he died. But how in the
hell does a 'God' die?
Simple. Divine Jesus didn't die. Man Jesus did, and then on the 3rd day, rose
from the dead.
And you expect others to follow you. Well, the fools do.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
02 Jan 2007 02:25:17 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:48:46 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote:
Oh but he died, don't you know. He was a 1st-century Jew named 'Jesus', so
many say. Well at least *some* people claim that he died. But how in the
hell does a 'God' die?
Simple. Divine Jesus didn't die. Man Jesus did, and then on the 3rd day,
rose
from the dead.
And you expect others to follow you. Well, the fools do.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
If a Jesus junkie is going to insist that 'Jesus' was *both* man and deity
interwoven from the moment of 'immaculate conception', we must take it to
mean that 'Jesus' was tortured, crucified, and 'died'. Or were there *two*
Jesus' that had a set of 12 disciples -- one of which had a disciple that
'betrayed' him in each instance?
Oh. I see. You're trying to maintain that Man/God, 'truly' human Jesus,
'separates' *just* before the not 'truly' human part of Jesus -- the deity
part which was in 'heaven' at the very time 'Jesus' was walking the earth --
went *back* to the heaven he never left so as not to suffer the torture,
crucifixion, and *death* the 'all too human' part of 'Jesus', *did* ! Do I
have that right, duke? I get it now. There wasn't really *one* Jesus of
Nazareth', there were *two*!! They both inhabited the same body. Right,
duke? And just before the torture, crucifixion, and *death* of the 'human'
Jesus, the 'deity' Jesus left the body of the 'human' Jesus and return to
the 'throne' he was occupying all the time that he was 'possessing' earthly
Jesus' body *and* helping 'God' the Father and 'God' the Mother ... Ooops
.... 'God-Gas God' (who *was* 'God' the Mother before *she* got morphed into
'God-Gas' and re-christened the, 'Holy Spirit' by some very misogynist
clergymen *very* early on in the early church) 'run' the universe, eh' duke?
Okay. I think I've got it.
Now the 'human' Jesus -- who *actually* died -- got 're-possessed' (I am
*not* going there!) by the 'deity' Jesus and appeared 'in the flesh' to a
very 'Doubting Thomas' -- among others -- before bodily rising into the
sky/heaven together, where 'human' Jesus now sits, bloody, stinky, and
'tortured' looking, upon a stupefyingly magnificent 'throne' as we 'speak'!
Do I have it 'right' now, duke?
So let me see. We now have God the 'Father', and God the 'Mother' (now known
as 'God-Gas God', Ooops, I mean, God the 'Holy Spirit' *and* TWO God the
'Son' sssses: One the 'human' Jesus of Nazareth (but *really* of
'Bethlehem'!) and a 'deity' Jesus of Nazareth (who fathered himself) *all*
residing in 'heaven', all 'running' the universe, and all, *ONE* 'true' God.
If I'm wrong here on any point, duke, please feel free to 'correct' me. I
don't want to be regarded as a stupid, ignorant, close-minded atheist! Show
me the errors of my ways, if you would be so kind, duke.
Greywolf
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
05 Jan 2007 03:28:58 PM |
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On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 14:25:17 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
If a Jesus junkie is going to insist that 'Jesus' was *both* man and deity
interwoven from the moment of 'immaculate conception'
Paul never made the claim, Christians just invented it out of whole
cloth. Paul's Jesus was just an aspect of God, much like his anger,
his pleasure, etc.
Leave it to believers to screw up what they believe in.
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| User: "ck19bla" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
02 Jan 2007 12:43:25 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:48:46 -0600, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com> wrote:
Oh but he died, don't you know. He was a 1st-century Jew named 'Jesus', so
many say. Well at least *some* people claim that he died. But how in the
hell does a 'God' die?
Simple. Divine Jesus didn't die. Man Jesus did, and then on the 3rd day, rose
from the dead.
And you expect others to follow you. Well, the fools do.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
pretending that the bible is true will not solve your problems.
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 09:30:11 AM |
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"ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote in news:1167630985.351127.290110@
48g2000cwx.googlegroups.com:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Come on, now! God's a busy guy, with things to do, people to kill!
"Over 500 people were killed and missing
and about 2,900 others injured from natural disasters
including hailstorms, flash floods, whirlwinds,
especially three typhoons that hit the cities and
provinces in the central region, south-eastern area
and Cuu Long (Mekong) Delta."
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"THE death toll from natural disasters in China this
year totaled 3,155, the highest number since 1998.
A handful of major calamities, including typhoons,
floods and landslides, were the main reason for the
increase in casualties, Xinhua news agency reported
today, citing the Ministry of Civil Affairs."
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"Two of the world's most impoverished regions have
been devastated by major natural disasters in the
last 24 hours, with nearly 500 lives lost and many
more people missing.
The death toll from catastrophic floods that have
hit East Africa has risen to more than 250, aid
workers said today as rains continue with no sign
of abating.
And in the Philippines officials say 198 people have
been killed in a typhoon, with another 260 unaccounted
for."
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"KUALA LUMPUR, Jan 1 (KUNA) -- Indonesian rescue teams
recovered 28 survivors and two dead bodies from the
Senopati Nusantara ferry, which sank Saturday in Mandalika
waters, Central Java, with 800 passengers onboard."
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"The country experienced one of its worst floods since
1971, affecting Johor, Malacca, Negri Sembilan and Pahang.
Johor was the worst hit. Heavy rain – the highest recorded
in 100 years – caused floods in Johor Baru and several
major towns this month. The rain continued for more than
a week. At its peak, some 80,000 people were displaced,
and eight casualties were recorded. A week later, there
were still some 58,000 flood victims at relief centres.
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Or perhaps there is no god, and we've got to muddle through ourselves.
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Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever
fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a
wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
-Mark Twain, About the Christian Bible, Letter III
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| User: "satyr" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 12:54:46 AM |
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On 31 Dec 2006 21:56:25 -0800, "ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
But 2007 is a new year!!!!!!
According to a poll of 1000 adults, predictions for the U.S. in 2007,
one in four, 25 percent, anticipates the second coming of Jesus
Christ.
http://dailynews.muzi.com/news/ll/english/10030892.shtml?cc=31688&ccr=
I'm sure they will come to their senses by 2008 though.
--
satyr #1953
Chairman, EAC Church Taxation Subcommittee
Director, Gideon Bible Alternative Fuel Project
Supervisor, EAC Fossil Casting Lab
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 06:56:35 PM |
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On 31 Dec 2006 21:56:25 -0800, "ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Gather you never hear of Jesus Christ. But then again, no one wonders why you
are an atheist.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
02 Jan 2007 05:37:11 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On 31 Dec 2006 21:56:25 -0800, "ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Gather you never hear of Jesus Christ. But then again, no one wonders why
you
are an atheist.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
'Jesus' ... 'Jesus Christ' .... hmmm. Oh! That's the 1st-century Jew whose
teachings many a 'Christian' out my way absolutely *refuse* to embrace or
take to heart. The phony-baloney, 'evil' as sin 'Christians' who believe
it's perfectly fine to treat a 'neighbor' and fellow member of the community
like a pariah/leper, who could care less that he is in need of medical
attention, who are slavishly do the 'evil' bidding of one of the most 'evil'
'leaders' of the community like *he* is the true 'Messiah', who don't give a
hoot that there is a blatant plan underfoot to just plain-out *steal land
from him -- *that* Jesus!
No, you're wrong, duke. I have, in fact, heard of him.
Greywolf
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| User: "Nosterill" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
02 Jan 2007 04:56:57 AM |
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duke wrote:
On 31 Dec 2006 21:56:25 -0800, "ck19bla" <ck19bla@msn.com> wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
Gather you never hear of Jesus Christ. But then again, no one wonders why you
are an atheist.
This may be true. I certainly don't wonder why ck is an atheist, I
assume that it's because he can think for himself: That's the usual
reason.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 12:30:52 AM |
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ck19bla wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
And religionists are still very adept at making death threats if you
don't believe in their own little sect...
Olrik
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 07:32:32 AM |
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On 31 Dec 2006 22:30:52 -0800, "Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote:
ck19bla wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
And religionists are still very adept at making death threats if you
don't believe in their own little sect...
Makes sense--our bodies are a helluva lot easier to produce than their
deity.
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: one more year over, still no god |
01 Jan 2007 01:41:09 AM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Olrik" <olrik666@gmail.com> bloodied us up
with this:
ck19bla wrote:
after 5000 years religion still hasn't delivered an in-the-flesh(real)
god.
And religionists are still very adept at making death threats if you
don't believe in their own little sect...
Olrik
Whichever one that is...
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Proud member of Earthquack's "Ghost fulla holes" convict page
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