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"innerjewel" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:03:37 PM |
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Only fools say there is no God |
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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20 Nov 2007 03:50:13 AM |
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"innerjewel" <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone
PLONK
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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19 Nov 2007 07:54:58 PM |
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"innerjewel" <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Please come up with something new. This is so
old and has been disproved so many times that
it is boring as hell.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:17:30 PM |
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A delusional lunatic, who quotes Paley's long debunked "argument" as
though it actually meant anything (other than displaying the abject
ignorance of the utterer), and who is also a freemason?!?!
How many fingers do you have?
Are they webbed?
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| User: "Don Kresch" |
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22 Nov 2007 06:35:15 PM |
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In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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22 Nov 2007 06:48:17 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:35:15 -0600, Don Kresch
<ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
All the original poster did, was tell us how nastily, in-or-face
stupid he is.
Was that really the message he wanted to give?
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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22 Nov 2007 06:48:48 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:35:15 -0600, in alt.atheism
Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in
<r08ck3d0qmmn25nhv3b1t0iet3vr72vhpn@4ax.com>:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
But religious zealots have given themselves permission to lie and
deceive to support their religious beliefs. Next thing you know, they'll
be justifying murder because they are right and everyone else is wrong.
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| User: "raven1" |
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22 Nov 2007 10:20:27 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:48:48 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:35:15 -0600, in alt.atheism
Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in
<r08ck3d0qmmn25nhv3b1t0iet3vr72vhpn@4ax.com>:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
But religious zealots have given themselves permission to lie and
deceive to support their religious beliefs. Next thing you know, they'll
be justifying murder because they are right and everyone else is wrong.
"Next thing..."? The above post was written when, about 5,000 BCE?
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"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to skyscrapers..."
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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22 Nov 2007 06:50:02 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:48:48 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:35:15 -0600, in alt.atheism
Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in
<r08ck3d0qmmn25nhv3b1t0iet3vr72vhpn@4ax.com>:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
But religious zealots have given themselves permission to lie and
deceive to support their religious beliefs. Next thing you know, they'll
be justifying murder because they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Like Claytom Waagner?
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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22 Nov 2007 06:54:35 PM |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:50:02 -0500, in alt.atheism
Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote in
<7t8ck35v6fiuq1vvaqk3jd8jpubf38kqdo@4ax.com>:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:48:48 -0600, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us>
wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:35:15 -0600, in alt.atheism
Don Kresch <ROT13.qxerfpu@jv.ee.pbz.com> wrote in
<r08ck3d0qmmn25nhv3b1t0iet3vr72vhpn@4ax.com>:
In alt.atheism On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> let us all know that:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
If you're going to quote someone, you really should FUCKING
MENTION WHO IT IS YOU'RE QUOTING. Otherwise, it's called "plagiarism".
But religious zealots have given themselves permission to lie and
deceive to support their religious beliefs. Next thing you know, they'll
be justifying murder because they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Like Claytom Waagner?
Or al Qaeda. Religious zealots are all the same, no matter what religion
they claim to be part of.
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| User: "johac" |
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19 Nov 2007 11:56:31 PM |
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In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Why don't you guys let poor old Paley rest in peace? You could at least
get new material.
--
John #1782
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:06:11 PM |
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In article <f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
-- cary
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| User: "Seon Ferguson" |
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19 Nov 2007 08:36:34 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fht8dj$d8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
--
Only fools post in alt.atheisim to try and convert them.
Oh and btw Freemasons believe in God. the only reason anti freemason kooks
like you think they are anti Christain is because they dare tolerate other
religions, unlike you wankers.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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20 Nov 2007 11:59:44 AM |
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"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fht8dj$d8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
--
Only fools post in alt.atheisim to try and convert them.
Oh and btw Freemasons believe in God. the only reason anti freemason kooks
like you think they are anti Christain is because they dare tolerate other
religions, unlike you wankers.
"anti freemason kooks like you"?
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell
else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who
do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? Huh? Ok.
In other words (my own this time): why do you assume that I am
anti-Mason?
I'm quote pro-.
-- cry
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| User: "Seon Ferguson" |
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20 Nov 2007 05:06:07 PM |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fhv7ag$7cm$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fht8dj$d8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
--
Only fools post in alt.atheisim to try and convert them.
Oh and btw Freemasons believe in God. the only reason anti freemason
kooks
like you think they are anti Christain is because they dare tolerate
other
religions, unlike you wankers.
"anti freemason kooks like you"?
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell
else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here.
Who
do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? Huh? Ok.
In other words (my own this time): why do you assume that I am
anti-Mason?
I'm quote pro-.
I dont see anyone else in the room you must be talking to me.
Well you double posted to alt.freemasonry so i assumed you were like the
idiots who think freemasons worship the devil and crap like that.
I guess I was wrong about you-my bad.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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20 Nov 2007 05:34:14 PM |
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"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fhv7ag$7cm$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:fht8dj$d8c$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
--
Only fools post in alt.atheisim to try and convert them.
Oh and btw Freemasons believe in God. the only reason anti freemason
kooks
like you think they are anti Christain is because they dare tolerate
other
religions, unlike you wankers.
"anti freemason kooks like you"?
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell
else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here.
Who
do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? Huh? Ok.
In other words (my own this time): why do you assume that I am
anti-Mason?
I'm quote pro-.
I dont see anyone else in the room you must be talking to me.
Well you double posted to alt.freemasonry so i assumed you were like the
idiots who think freemasons worship the devil and crap like that.
I guess I was wrong about you-my bad.
Yep. My girlfriend's father was a Mason -- and in fact she and
I had a long discussion about Masonry in her region of the world
just a couple of evenings back. Nothing I heard did other than
to reinforce my basic positive feelings about the brotherhood.
-- cary
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| User: "Seon Ferguson" |
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"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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"Seon Ferguson" <seongf@gmail.com>
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
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In article
<f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>
innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> writes:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever:
nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should
hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must
have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at
some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the
side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
Only fools bring up William Paley, given that this has been
debunked going all the way back to Huxley the Elder's time.
--
Only fools post in alt.atheisim to try and convert them.
Oh and btw Freemasons believe in God. the only reason anti freemason
kooks
like you think they are anti Christain is because they dare tolerate
other
religions, unlike you wankers.
"anti freemason kooks like you"?
You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the
hell
else are you talkin' to? You talkin' to me? Well I'm the only one here.
Who
do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? Huh? Ok.
In other words (my own this time): why do you assume that I am
anti-Mason?
I'm quote pro-.
I dont see anyone else in the room you must be talking to me.
Well you double posted to alt.freemasonry so i assumed you were like the
idiots who think freemasons worship the devil and crap like that.
I guess I was wrong about you-my bad.
Yep. My girlfriend's father was a Mason -- and in fact she and
I had a long discussion about Masonry in her region of the world
just a couple of evenings back. Nothing I heard did other than
to reinforce my basic positive feelings about the brotherhood.
Same here I have a friend who is a Freemason and my great grandfather was
one but I didnt know him. So I guess you wont have any luck finding a
atheist in alt.freemasonry but alt.atheisim was a good place to start.
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| User: "raven1" |
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19 Nov 2007 10:30:32 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone, and
were asked how the stone came to be there; I might possibly answer,
that, for anything I knew to the contrary, it lain there for ever: nor
would it perhaps be very easy to show the absurdity of this answer.
But suppose I had found a watch upon the ground, and it should be
inquired how the watch happened to be in that place; I should hardly
think of the answer, which I had before given, that for anything I
knew, the watch might have always been there.... The watch must have
had a maker: that there must have existed, at some time, and at some
place or other, an artificer or artificers, who formed it for the
purpose which we find it actually to answer; who comprehended its
construction, and designed its use.... Every indication of
contrivance, every manifestation of design, which existed in the
watch, exists in the works of nature; with the difference, on the side
of nature, of being greater or more, and that in a degree which
exceeds all computation.
*cough*
Paley's Watchmaker Argument was refuted by David Hume ages ago. Do try
to keep up.
---
"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to skyscrapers..."
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:41:51 PM |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you have any other reason to post this than to tell two newsgroups
what a fucking moron you are?
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| User: "Ronald More-More Moshki" |
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19 Nov 2007 07:11:04 PM |
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On Nov 19, 7:41 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you have any other reason to post this than to tell two newsgroups
what a fucking moron you are?
Ronnie used to talk about inviting an athiest to the WH for
a high class meal so he could ask the guest:
"Do you believe there was a cook?"
Oh, that Ronnie.
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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20 Nov 2007 06:29:43 PM |
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Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
On Nov 19, 7:41 pm, Christopher A.Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800 (PST), innerjewel
<fiatlux...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Did you have any other reason to post this than to tell two newsgroups
what a fucking moron you are?
Ronnie used to talk about inviting an athiest to the WH for
a high class meal so he could ask the guest:
"Do you believe there was a cook?"
Oh, that Ronnie.
Of course, the straight answer would be, "No, I know there was a cook.
Want to meet him?"
--
Uncle Vic
2011
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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20 Nov 2007 07:59:13 AM |
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:03:37 -0800, innerjewel wrote:
Only fools say there is no God
But the wise shout it from the rooftops.
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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“The most dangerous man to any government is the
man who is able to think things out... without regard
to the prevailing superstitions and taboos.
Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the
government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.”
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:23:13 PM |
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On Nov 19, 4:03 pm, innerjewel <fiatlux...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip watchmaker argument>
A clue for the clueless. Watches are created out of materials that
exist. Your purported creator created the universe out of nothing.
If watchmakers created watches by zapping them into existence, you
might have an argument. But since they don't, all you have is wishful
thinking.
Now go read Matthew 5:22, fool.
--
Uncle Vic
2011
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| User: "" |
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19 Nov 2007 06:36:24 PM |
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On Nov 19, 7:03 pm, innerjewel <fiatlux...@hotmail.com> wrote:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone,
...and when I read the rest of the post, it struck me that whomever
you've plagarized it from must have hit his head as well.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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19 Nov 2007 08:18:18 PM |
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wrote:
innerjewel wrote:
In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot against a stone,
..and when I read the rest of the post, it struck me that whomever
you've plagarized it from must have hit his head as well.
Cue Huxley, on the death of Bishop Wilberforce, who fell off a horse and
struck his head against a rock: "The first time he came into contact
with reality, it killed him."
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "innerjewel" |
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19 Nov 2007 08:27:47 PM |
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The person posting as Innerjewel is not who he claims to be. This
psycho stalker seems to be having fun pretending to be Innerjewel
posting stuff related to atheism, abortion etc. I guess this peson
was
upset with me for asking if LOL stands for "loser on line". He has
now
made it his life's mission to lamely try to discredit me by setting
up
simmilar e-mail accounts to mine and posting as Innerjewel. My
profile
has approximately 39 five star post ratings. His phony account has a
few one star ratings. What a creep!
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| User: "" |
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20 Nov 2007 08:21:52 PM |
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On Nov 19, 9:27 pm, innerjewel <fiatlu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The person posting as Innerjewel is not who he claims to be. This
psycho stalker seems to be having fun pretending to be Innerjewel
posting stuff related to atheism, abortion etc. I guess this peson
was
upset with me for asking if LOL stands for "loser on line". He has
now
made it his life's mission to lamely try to discredit me by setting
up
simmilar e-mail accounts to mine and posting as Innerjewel. My
profile
has approximately 39 five star post ratings. His phony account has a
few one star ratings. What a creep!
Yeah, welcome to Usenet. A lot of folks wander in here from Google,
thinking it's going to be much like other BBs they're used to. But the
gloves are off in here..and some folks are just mad-dog mean.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Sanitys Little Helper" |
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20 Nov 2007 06:01:07 AM |
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innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote in news:f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-
aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com to alt.atheism:
In crossing a heath, suppose
Strawman. You lose.
--
David Silverman C.B.E.
aa #2208
Lord Mayor of Awphucket
And now, today's sponsor message:
For the beluga caviar of stupidity, it's got to be...
Brian Carey.
Available in a newsgroup near you.
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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20 Nov 2007 06:40:38 PM |
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innerjewel <fiatlux_33@hotmail.com> wrote in news:f23de38a-2e50-4469-8f11-
aab5ed895f30@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
Subject: Only fools say there is no God
Only TOOLS say there is one.
Tool.
--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices.
--Edward R. Murrow
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