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"Yang, AthD h.c" |
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23 Aug 2007 01:08:35 AM |
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Oops, Bush Caught Pulling Yet Another Fred Stone |
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003972.php
Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute
outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in
President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national
convention today:
U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500
al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.
That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No
order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible
estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One
rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at
possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning
that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far
this year.
Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000
Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's
Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times
reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only
135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in
al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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23 Aug 2007 08:20:19 AM |
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On Aug 23, 2:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003972.php
Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute
outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in
President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national
convention today:
U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500
al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.
That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No
order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible
estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One
rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at
possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning
that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far
this year.
Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000
Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's
Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times
reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only
135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in
al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
I wish someone would implant an electrical device in Shrub like they
did to Cartman on South Park. But instead of swearing causing the
electrical shock, it would be any mention of Iraq in conjunction with
9/11 and/or terrorism.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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24 Aug 2007 03:17:07 AM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1187875219.230609.72920@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 23, 2:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003972.php
Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute
outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in
President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national
convention today:
U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500
al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.
That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No
order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible
estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One
rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at
possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning
that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far
this year.
Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000
Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's
Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times
reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only
135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in
al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
I wish someone would implant an electrical device in Shrub like they
did to Cartman on South Park. But instead of swearing causing the
electrical shock, it would be any mention of Iraq in conjunction with
9/11 and/or terrorism.
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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24 Aug 2007 02:02:02 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:17:07 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
He'd be electrocuted in the first 10 seconds.
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 AM |
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in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle Malkin at
hypatiab7@comcast.net wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1187875219.230609.72920@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Aug 23, 2:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003972.php
Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute
outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in
President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national
convention today:
U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500
al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.
That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No
order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible
estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One
rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at
possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning
that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far
this year.
Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000
Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's
Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times
reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only
135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in
al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
I wish someone would implant an electrical device in Shrub like they
did to Cartman on South Park. But instead of swearing causing the
electrical shock, it would be any mention of Iraq in conjunction with
9/11 and/or terrorism.
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Aug 2007 01:17:07 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>
wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle Malkin at
hypatiab7@comcast.net wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage of
his convictions he'd stop breathing.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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27 Aug 2007 01:30:37 PM |
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Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>
wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage of
his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the courage of
your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your doors.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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28 Aug 2007 09:33:01 PM |
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in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone at
fstone69@earthling.com wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com>
wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage of
his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the courage of
your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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28 Aug 2007 09:50:15 PM |
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Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:C2FA450D.64D1%teekem@ispwest.com:
in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone at
fstone69@earthling.com wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage of
his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the courage
of your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
So when are you going to go be a human shield? You can protect some poor
terrorist from those awful American soldiers.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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29 Aug 2007 12:22:20 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:C2FA450D.64D1%teekem@ispwest.com:
in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone at
fstone69@earthling.com wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage of
his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the courage
of your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
So when are you going to go be a human shield? You can protect some poor
terrorist from those awful American soldiers.
I've never stated an intention to be a human shield.
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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29 Aug 2007 09:01:23 AM |
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Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d4d057_2@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:C2FA450D.64D1%teekem@ispwest.com:
in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone at
fstone69@earthling.com wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage
of his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the
courage of your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your
doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
So when are you going to go be a human shield? You can protect some
poor terrorist from those awful American soldiers.
I've never stated an intention to be a human shield.
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but you
idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
You have trouble *understanding* coherent thought, don't you?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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29 Aug 2007 08:14:08 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d4d057_2@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:C2FA450D.64D1%teekem@ispwest.com:
in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone at
fstone69@earthling.com wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com, Michelle
Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17 AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage
of his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the
courage of your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your
doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
So when are you going to go be a human shield? You can protect some
poor terrorist from those awful American soldiers.
I've never stated an intention to be a human shield.
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but you
idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want a war, go fight one.
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
We were at peace with Iraq, relatively speaking. I know you've got some
kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to acknowledge this,
but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with the attack on 9/11.
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
You have trouble *understanding* coherent thought, don't you?
Spit one out and we'll see if I understand it.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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30 Aug 2007 06:14:56 AM |
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Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d5e7ac$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d4d057_2@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@ispwest.com> wrote in
news:C2FA450D.64D1%teekem@ispwest.com:
in article Xns999993BF237C0freddybear@216.151.153.66, Fred Stone
at wrote on 8/27/07 1:30 PM:
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in
news:c756d393mttk9258dqrj20afa5dq40kni5@4ax.com:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 03:13:47 -0500, Tim McGaughy
<teekem@ispwest.com> wrote:
in article QKWdnVC7ZNRrDlPbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com,
Michelle Malkin at wrote on 8/24/07 3:17
AM:
Why limit it to just that? How about him getting a big
electric shock every time he lies? He wouldn't be able
to say a word!
How about every time he inhales and wastes our precious oxygen?
The oxygen he's against laws to preserve. If he had the courage
of his convictions he'd stop breathing.
You're against laws to preserve your security. If you had the
courage of your convictions, you'd take all the locks off your
doors.
If you had the courage of yours, you'd go fight in Iraq.
So when are you going to go be a human shield? You can protect some
poor terrorist from those awful American soldiers.
I've never stated an intention to be a human shield.
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but you
idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want a war, go fight one.
I don't want a war.
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
We were at peace with Iraq, relatively speaking.
Strange sort of peace, with "no fly zones" and sanctions and UN
resolutions.
I know you've got
some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to acknowledge
this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with the attack on
9/11.
I know that. What on earth makes you think that I wouldn't acknowledge
that. What I won't acknowledge is that Iraq had nothing to do with al
Qaeda.
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
You have trouble *understanding* coherent thought, don't you?
Spit one out and we'll see if I understand it.
And that is just more proof that you're in denial.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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| User: "Tim McGaughy" |
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30 Aug 2007 05:18:22 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but you
idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want a war, go fight one.
I don't want a war.
We know.
You just want someone ELSE to go to war.
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
We were at peace with Iraq, relatively speaking.
Strange sort of peace, with "no fly zones" and sanctions and UN
resolutions.
Still, peace.
I know you've got
some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to acknowledge
this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with the attack on
9/11.
I know that. What on earth makes you think that I wouldn't acknowledge
that. What I won't acknowledge is that Iraq had nothing to do with al
Qaeda.
Same thing. We started shooting at al qaeda because of 9/11. And I know
you've got some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to
acknowledge this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with al
Qaeda, either.
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
You have trouble *understanding* coherent thought, don't you?
Spit one out and we'll see if I understand it.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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31 Aug 2007 12:07:49 PM |
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On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:18:22 -0500, Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net>
wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
We were at peace with Iraq, relatively speaking.
Strange sort of peace, with "no fly zones" and sanctions and UN
resolutions.
Still, peace.
I guess Phred thinks that putting a criminal in prison allows him to
keep committing crimes.
I know you've got
some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to acknowledge
this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with the attack on
9/11.
I know that. What on earth makes you think that I wouldn't acknowledge
that. What I won't acknowledge is that Iraq had nothing to do with al
Qaeda.
Same thing. We started shooting at al qaeda because of 9/11. And I know
you've got some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to
acknowledge this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with al
Qaeda, either.
Well ... in the same way we had "something to do with" Nazi Germany.
Sunni Islam and Wahabi Islam are antithetical.
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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30 Aug 2007 07:56:08 PM |
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Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d70ff9_4@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but
you idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want a war, go fight one.
I don't want a war.
We know.
No, you don't. You have some sort of ***** idea stuck in your pointy
little head and you won't let it go because it would hurt too much to be
reasonable.
You just want someone ELSE to go to war.
I don't want that either. But there are worse things than war.
You want peace but you won't do anything to get it, is that it?
We were at peace with Iraq, relatively speaking.
Strange sort of peace, with "no fly zones" and sanctions and UN
resolutions.
Still, peace.
Still war. "No fly zones" and sanctions and all that guff are all acts
of war, Tim. No matter what you people call them in your liberal fantasy
land, what they really are is war.
I know you've got
some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you to acknowledge
this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with the attack on
9/11.
I know that. What on earth makes you think that I wouldn't
acknowledge that. What I won't acknowledge is that Iraq had nothing
to do with al Qaeda.
Same thing. We started shooting at al qaeda because of 9/11. And I
know you've got some kind of short in your brain that won't allow you
to acknowledge this, but Iraq really didn't have anything to do with
al Qaeda, either.
It didn't have to. But it did anyway.
You have trouble forming a coherent thought, don't you?
You have trouble *understanding* coherent thought, don't you?
Spit one out and we'll see if I understand it.
See above. So far, you're batting .000
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"To abjure violence it is necessary to have no experience of it.” -
George Orwell
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30 Aug 2007 09:42:44 PM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
Tim McGaughy <teekem@copper.net> wrote in
news:46d70ff9_4@newsfeed.slurp.net:
Fred Stone wrote:
So what? I never stated an intention to be a soldier either, but
you idiots keep telling me I should go fight.
You want a war, go fight one.
I don't want a war.
We know.
No, you don't. You have some sort of ***** idea stuck in your pointy
little head and you won't let it go because it would hurt too much to be
reasonable.
Haha.
Hey, Stonehead. How do you keep an idiot in suspense?
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| Title: Re: Oops, Bush Caught Pulling Yet Another Fred Stone |
23 Aug 2007 09:08:04 AM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:20:19 -0000, Andres64 <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
On Aug 23, 2:08 am, "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com>
wrote:
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003972.php
Bush Lies About Al-Qaeda Captures in Iraq
By Spencer Ackerman - August 22, 2007, 12:14 PM
Some distortions are so massive and so deliberate as to constitute
outright lies. See if you can spot the dishonesty in this line in
President Bush's speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars' national
convention today:
U.S. forces have killed or captured an average of more than 1,500
al Qaeda terrorists and other extremists every month since January.
That "and other extremists" line sure does a lot of work here. No
order of battle for the insurgency is available, but all credible
estimates peg al-Qaeda in Iraq as by far the smallest contingent. One
rough assessment, cited byThe New York Times last month, put AQI at
possessing perhaps 5,000 fighters. Yet Bush suggested this morning
that the U.S. has captured as many as 12,000 members of AQI so far
this year.
Since the surge began, the U.S. has had between 17,000 and 23,000
Iraqis in custody each month, according to the Brookings Institution's
Iraq Index (pdf). Last month, Ned Parker of the Los Angeles Times
reported that of the 19,000 detainees in U.S. custody in Iraq, only
135 were foreigners -- the most likely indicator of membership in
al-Qaeda. Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
I wish someone would implant an electrical device in Shrub like they
did to Cartman on South Park. But instead of swearing causing the
electrical shock, it would be any mention of Iraq in conjunction with
9/11 and/or terrorism.
Followed by same ahlf-hearted denial about how Iraq is tied to 911,
and then use Iraq and 911 in the next sentence.
--
Yang
a.a.#28
"I can hardly wait for your head to explode when the Repubs hold onto
both houses of Congress this November. And Yang can quote me on that."
-Fred Stone, 6/14/2006
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, Bush Caught Pulling Yet Another Fred Stone |
23 Aug 2007 05:21:47 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:08:35 GMT, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Military and intelligence veterans of the Iraq war typically
say that determining Iraqi membership in AQI is extraordinarily
difficult, and not something that lends itself particularly well to
flat, quantitative statements.
It lends itself particularly well to flat, quantitative statements -
that, no matter how untruthful, can't be refuted.
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