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"Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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12 Aug 2005 09:16:57 PM |
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Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/8/102005e.asp
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1846 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
13 Aug 2005 03:13:44 AM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:16:57 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c),
Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> spake thusly:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
Foolishness, thy name is atheism.
And why is it "foolishness?" I notice, however, that you did not go
after the "hypocrisy" charge. :-)
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| User: "Panama Floyd" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
13 Aug 2005 05:47:59 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:16:57 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c),
Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> spake thusly:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
Foolishness, thy name is atheism.
This from a guy who believes god sacrificed himself to himself to spare
his own creation from his own wrath.
Neurosis, thy name is Christianity.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
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| User: "georgann" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
13 Aug 2005 06:05:07 PM |
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Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
Foolishness, thy name is atheism.
Panama Floyd wrote:
This from a guy who believes god sacrificed himself to himself to spare his
own creation from his own wrath.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's not quite right. God sacrificed Himself to Himself to account for
permitting free will and to pay for the ultimate consequences of that
permissiveness.
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on the closing day of the Constitutional Convention, a woman
asked him what kind of government the statesmen had given America.
Franklin replied: 'A republic, Madame, if you can keep it.'
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| User: "DanielSan" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
13 Aug 2005 06:21:00 PM |
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georgann wrote:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
Foolishness, thy name is atheism.
Panama Floyd wrote:
This from a guy who believes god sacrificed himself to himself to spare his
own creation from his own wrath.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's not quite right. God sacrificed Himself to Himself to account for
permitting free will and to pay for the ultimate consequences of that
permissiveness.
So, God is a masochist? "I'm a bad boy so I must beat myself!"
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* DanielSan -- alt.atheism #2226 *
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* "No one ever demonstrated, so far as I am aware, *
* the non-existence of Zeus or Thor - but they *
* have few followers now." Arthur C. Clarke *
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
13 Aug 2005 07:18:02 PM |
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georgann wrote:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
Foolishness, thy name is atheism.
Panama Floyd wrote:
This from a guy who believes god sacrificed himself to himself to spare his
own creation from his own wrath.
georgann (forgiven since 33 AD) wrote:
That's not quite right. God sacrificed Himself to Himself to account for
permitting free will and to pay for the ultimate consequences of that
permissiveness.
The line she neglected to quote was "Neurosis, thy name is
Christianity."
Thank you georgann for proving my point.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Oops, KY "Pro-Marriage" Methodist Pastor Commits Adultery |
19 Aug 2005 12:03:37 AM |
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On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:16:57 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
Hypocrisy, thy name is Christian Fundamentalism
http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/8/102005e.asp
Pastor Concerned Over Fallout From Kentucky Minister's Moral Breach
By Jim Brown and Jenni Parker
August 10, 2005
(AgapePress) - A retired conservative United Methodist pastor and
Christian author who has been a major contributor to the
denomination's debates on the integrity and sanctity of marriage has
admitted to having a longtime adulterous affair with a woman in his
church.
Recently, Pastor David Seamands apologized to his former church in
Wilmore, Kentucky, for what he termed "a breach of trust and moral
failure." The 83-year-old minister admitted to "abusing the trust" of
his family and friends by engaging in sexual misconduct over "a number
of years" with a member of Wilmore United Methodist Church, where he
had been pastor from 1962 to 1984.
Seamands is a best-selling author of books on emotional healing, who
was one of the pioneers of the field of Christian counseling and who
served as a professor and dean at Asbury Theological Seminary in
Kentucky until his retirement in 1992. According to
ChristianityToday.com, he and his wife Helen were leading figures in
the Marriage Enrichment and Engaged Discovery movements and have
counseled more than 2,200 couples during those weekend programs.
Pastor John Gillmartin of La Verne, California, has been following the
Seamands case closely and has written about it in his personal weblog.
He says he is troubled that the seminary professor has offered
guidance to others and has written several books on the very issues to
which he fell.
Gillmartin points out that the damage done in a case like this can be
nearly impossible to measure. "For all we know at this particular
point," he says, "there are young people out there or people in their
middle ministry who are going through a crisis, and the news of this
could be devastating to them and could cause them to lose their
faith."
The California pastor says while he is not one who believes a person
can lose his or her salvation, he is convinced that "people can
definitely lose their faith when things like this happen." He feels
Seamands' confession of adultery should remind believers, pastors
especially, that their tie with God is critical to their Christian
walk and witness.
"The focus has got to be vertical and not horizontal," Gillmartin
asserts. "I think too many of our people have wonderful ministries,
but their focus is too horizontal -- it's too much to the world and
not toward God," he says, "and that can really weaken a man or a
woman, and put you in a vulnerable position."
Gillmartin says he is encouraged that the Kentucky Annual Conference
of the United Methodist Church has already begun its process of church
discipline in the Seamands case. In a prepared address read to his
home church's adult members, Seamands stated that he would, under the
"redemptive plan of accountability" and in accordance with church law,
"refrain from all ministerial functions and actions during the next
year, and would use this time for penitential prayer and discernment."
© 2005 AgapePress
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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