Religions > Atheism > Oops, NeoCon Terri Schiavo Supporter Turned Out to be a Sex Offender
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Oops, NeoCon Terri Schiavo Supporter Turned Out to be a Sex Offender |
To recap, abortion: bad, Rape: good.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled Rush Limbaugh
anal-cyct-induced stupidity.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000856102
None of the stories revealed that Scott Heldreth, a religious activist
and anti-abortion crusader, is a registered sex offender in Florida--
until The Charlotte Observer mentioned it on Sunday
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Online research shows that Heldreth was arrested after an incident at
Ohio University and charged with two counts of rape and one count of
kidnapping.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka
Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1527 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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29 Mar 2005 10:26:57 PM |
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Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** <eacmole@mail.com>
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To recap, abortion: bad, Rape: good.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled Rush Limbaugh
anal-cyct-induced stupidity.
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http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_conte
nt_id=1000856102
None of the stories revealed that Scott Heldreth, a religious activist and
anti-abortion crusader, is a registered sex offender in Florida-- until
The Charlotte Observer mentioned it on Sunday
...
Online research shows that Heldreth was arrested after an incident at Ohio
University and charged with two counts of rape and one count of
kidnapping.
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It's a complete freakshow. For instance:
Bill Tierney, now protesting outside the hospice, tortued people in Iraq
during his service there, and says he received the location of the Iraqi
WMD from God during prayer: <http://billmon.org/archives/001784.html>
and
<http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_03_27_atrios_archive.html#1112058946145
78991>
Bo Gritz, a voice of 'moderation' in the Christian Identity movement,
wants to perform a citizen's arrest on Michael Schiavo:
<http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2005/03/bo-to-rescue.html>
These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering to.
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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29 Mar 2005 10:32:27 PM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander to. These
people are their base constituency.
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29 Mar 2005 11:27:35 PM |
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WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander to. These
people are their base constituency.
I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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31 Mar 2005 02:11:43 PM |
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
You mean there actually ARE such things as "sane Republicans"?
Actually, I jest. I realize that there is a fairly large segment along the
left edge (moderates) of the Republican party, my son-in-law included, who
register and vote Republican, but find themselves holding their noses when
they do so at this point. Then, of course, there is that small segment on
the right edge who actually are able to benefit from the policies that
Republicans typically promote. I really can't fault them for voting for
their own self-interests.
Finally, the bulk of the GOP - people in the middle of the party who
actually believe that the GOP is working for their interests, when in fact
it's not. These naive folks will argue ad infinitum, basing their arguments
on lies and distortions, heard or seen from right-wing sources, without ever
bothering to find out the facts. There are few things more frustrating than
trying to discuss things with folks who take an attitude of "I heard/saw
this on [Rush/Fox News/etc.] and believe what I believe, so don't go
confusing me with facts".
The first group can be swayed. The second group cannot. The third group
needs to become better informed before the GOP can progress towards anything
other than a mean-spirited hate group.
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31 Mar 2005 05:50:02 PM |
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"WF Peifer" <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote in message
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"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
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I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
You mean there actually ARE such things as "sane Republicans"?
Actually, I jest. I realize that there is a fairly large segment along
the
left edge (moderates) of the Republican party, my son-in-law included, who
register and vote Republican, but find themselves holding their noses when
they do so at this point. Then, of course, there is that small segment on
the right edge who actually are able to benefit from the policies that
Republicans typically promote. I really can't fault them for voting for
their own self-interests.
Finally, the bulk of the GOP - people in the middle of the party who
actually believe that the GOP is working for their interests, when in fact
it's not.
this actually says a lot about your beliefs and visions moreso than repubs
or democrats
"interests"
i don't vote (primarily) for a party because it works for my interests
i vote when they work to embody my PRINCIPLES
principles are often contrary to interests
to use an extreme example, it would be one of my interests (it would benefit
me) if laws were passed that benefited me and/or rescinded that did not
benefit me, in regards to taxes, personal freedoms, etc.
it does not follow that i therefore suppor those laws., or even worse, that
i would support judicial activism that claimed that these laws were
constitutionally mandated to protect rights (maybe rights that come from a
penumbra or emanation) :)
it would also benefit me if the const. were "different" in some respects.
but i'd rather have judiciary that rules on the const. as it is, vs, how i
wish it was
it is very telling that you concentrate on INTERESTS
for me at least (and i usually vote republican), it's about principles
(first), policies (2nd) and interests 3rd.
and when interests conflict with principles (and the rule of law, etc) the
latter SHOULD win out
this is actually one of the criticism of (direct to the most extent)
democracy, is that sooner or later people figger out that they can just vote
themselves largesse, so to speak.
people who vote primarily on interests are essentially being selfish vs.
principled.
that's apparently how you think people vote, and how they should vote
whit
These naive folks will argue ad infinitum, basing their arguments
on lies and distortions, heard or seen from right-wing sources, without
ever
bothering to find out the facts. There are few things more frustrating
than
trying to discuss things with folks who take an attitude of "I heard/saw
this on [Rush/Fox News/etc.] and believe what I believe, so don't go
confusing me with facts".
The first group can be swayed. The second group cannot. The third group
needs to become better informed before the GOP can progress towards
anything
other than a mean-spirited hate group.
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01 Apr 2005 12:19:08 AM |
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"Sang" <gfroid@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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this actually says a lot about your beliefs and visions moreso than repubs
or democrats
"interests"
i don't vote (primarily) for a party because it works for my interests
i vote when they work to embody my PRINCIPLES
principles are often contrary to interests
You have, essentially, reinforced my argument. Republicans tend to view
their own self-interest as a principle. The entire "trickle-down" theory of
economics (or supply-side economics, as it came to be known under Reagan)
incorporates this concept. The theory is that a tax cut that directly
benefits the very rich will ultimately benefit society as a whole, since
with more after-tax money available to them, the rich will invest more,
which creates jobs, which benefits the working class, and thus society as a
whole. The reality is that only a small percentage of the increased
after-tax income of the rich goes into helping the economy, and virtually
none of it ever trickles down to the working class. Meanwhile the economy
suffers because of the reduced revenue by the government, often compensated
for by other taxes in other areas (often regressive taxes) that place
additional burdens on the middle class.
The GOP has been remarkably successful in "selling" the concept that
reducing taxes on the rich, because of the nonexistent successes of
trickle-down economics, is such a good thing that it should be a "principle"
that all Americans should embrace. They propagandize the argument to the
point where many middle-income party members accept as a firmly held
"principle" that tax cuts for the rich are a good thing because they're in
the best "interests" of society as a whole, when in fact they hurt society
AND the very rank-and-file Republicans that so vocally support them.
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31 Mar 2005 09:54:35 PM |
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Sang <gfroid@hotmail.com> wrote:
this is actually one of the criticism of (direct to the most extent)
democracy, is that sooner or later people figger out that they can just
vote themselves largesse, so to speak.
people who vote primarily on interests are essentially being selfish vs.
principled.
And that's EXACTLY THE PROBLEM with having the religious right in power.
They've demonstrated that they don't really care about their own
principles, beyond the acquisition of power.
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"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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31 Mar 2005 05:31:22 PM |
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gu6vk6.1baseda11i5iw0N%usenet@mile23.c0m...
These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering
to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander to.
These
people are their base constituency.
I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will
figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
Dream on baby. I've been waiting for Republicans to wise-up for 30
years now. They still vote for the dumbest guys spewing the dumbest
things.
jwk
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31 Mar 2005 06:11:35 PM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Paul Mitchum wrote:
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gu6vk6.1baseda11i5iw0N%usenet@mile23.c0m...
These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering
to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander to.
These
people are their base constituency.
I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will
figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
Dream on baby. I've been waiting for Republicans to wise-up for 30
years now. They still vote for the dumbest guys spewing the dumbest
things.
jwk
elitism noted.
contrast with dean'ism (repubs are evul). this is the "repubs are dumb and
vote for dummies" meme.
no consideration for the fact that dems and repubs have different (to some
extent) core visions, principles, frames of reference, etc. which leads them
to different policy conclusions, ideas, and preferred candidates.
it's not an issue of dumb, and it's not an issue of evil
both sides deserve respect.
partisans and elitists don't extend that
whit
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04 Apr 2005 12:50:29 PM |
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Sang wrote:
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1112290282.788133.19470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
Paul Mitchum wrote:
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gu6vk6.1baseda11i5iw0N%usenet@mile23.c0m...
These are the people that congressional Republicans are
pandering
to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander
to.
These
people are their base constituency.
I have a more hopeful view. I believe that sane Republicans will
figure
out that the hassle is no longer worth the benefit.
Dream on baby. I've been waiting for Republicans to wise-up for 30
years now. They still vote for the dumbest guys spewing the
dumbest
things.
jwk
elitism noted.
contrast with dean'ism (repubs are evul). this is the "repubs are
dumb and
vote for dummies" meme.
no consideration for the fact that dems and repubs have different (to
some
extent) core visions, principles, frames of reference, etc. which
leads them
to different policy conclusions, ideas, and preferred candidates.
it's not an issue of dumb, and it's not an issue of evil
both sides deserve respect.
partisans and elitists don't extend that
I just love that Republicans always call thinking before you do
something "elitism"! Do they sit around dreaming up ways to make
themselves sound stupid? So it is elitist to insist on a shread of
rationality? You guys make a joke of yourselves. It's a good thing
you don't have a sense of humor or you'd be embarrassed all the time.
jwk
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| User: "marvin" |
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03 Apr 2005 12:49:03 AM |
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jwk writes:
Dream on baby. I've been waiting for Republicans to wise-up for 30
years now. They still vote for the dumbest guys spewing the dumbest
things.
Sang writes:
elitism noted.
To use your own words, " this actually says a lot about your beliefs
and visions moreso than repubs
or democrats"
back to Sang:
contrast with dean'ism (repubs are evul). this is the "repubs are dumb
and
vote for dummies" meme.
no consideration for the fact that dems and repubs have different (to
some
extent) core visions, principles, frames of reference, etc. which leads
them
to different policy conclusions, ideas, and preferred candidates.
it's not an issue of dumb, and it's not an issue of evil
both sides deserve respect.
I tend to agree with you here.
and Sang again:
partisans and elitists don't extend that
Isn't your use of two forms of the word elite at least partisan? And
possibly elitist as well, in the very sense you've used it. Its use in
connection with positions taken by Democrats is an attempt to play into
the usual American tendency toward anti-intellectualism, and it serves
no useful purpose in a respectful discussion. I mean no disrespect to
you personally, but I'd like to encourage you to consider who you've
heard using the term in this particular context and whether these
people can fairly be considered anything less than partisan.
Marvin
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30 Mar 2005 05:41:03 AM |
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WF Peifer wrote:
"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.c0m> wrote in message
news:1gu6vk6.1baseda11i5iw0N%usenet@mile23.c0m...
These are the people that congressional Republicans are pandering
to.
These are the people that congressional Republicans MUST pander to.
These
people are their base constituency.
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka
Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and
counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1527 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and
mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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30 Mar 2005 06:01:39 AM |
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@mail.com>
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And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
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31 Mar 2005 12:48:23 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:01:39 -0700, "WF Peifer" <wfpeifer@nospam.com>
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"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@mail.com>
wrote in message
news:1112161263.697766.28750@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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31 Mar 2005 12:56:50 AM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty
on the head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who
is offering it?
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Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty
on the head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who
is offering it?
No *true Christian* would do that.
(Ducks and runs)
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:07:40 -0600, Jim Lovejoy <nospam@devnull.spam>
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Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:liim415r9vkdl5j999hhjs9r16dduitkvn@4ax.com:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty
on the head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who
is offering it?
No *true Christian* would do that.
(Ducks and runs)
Obviously it was a Scotsman.........
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aa#2106
Remove Belief to reply
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 22:00:03 -0500, AngryJohn
<AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 00:07:40 -0600, Jim Lovejoy <nospam@devnull.spam>
wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote in
news:liim415r9vkdl5j999hhjs9r16dduitkvn@4ax.com:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty
on the head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who
is offering it?
No *true Christian* would do that.
(Ducks and runs)
Obviously it was a Scotsman.........
Porridge the thought....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis
<elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote in alt.atheism
WF Peifer <wfpeifer@nospam.com> wrote:
Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote
And their constituency is as base as it gets.
True, they ARE base, but their philosophies are baseless.
"All your base belong to us." :)))))
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty
on the head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who
is offering it?
You can bet on it.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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31 Mar 2005 09:54:35 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
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I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is offering
it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:54:35 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
[..]
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is offering
it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
So?
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:54:35 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
[..]
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is
offering it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
So?
So why are you intent on saying he's a Christian if he might not be?
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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02 Apr 2005 09:21:53 PM |
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On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:44:01 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:54:35 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
[..]
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is
offering it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
So?
So why are you intent on saying he's a Christian if he might not be?
Fundies not only have the motivation, the drooling morons have been
deliberately stirred up. Combine that with decades of history and mix
with high percentages of citizens being of the Xtian superstition.
Factor in Flori-DUH's being a 'fundy central' and there's all the
reason in the world for me to make the statement; "You can bet on it."
Of course, YMMV.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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02 Apr 2005 11:14:11 PM |
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stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:44:01 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:54:35 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
[..]
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is
offering it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
So?
So why are you intent on saying he's a Christian if he might not be?
Fundies not only have the motivation, the drooling morons have been
deliberately stirred up. Combine that with decades of history and mix
with high percentages of citizens being of the Xtian superstition.
Factor in Flori-DUH's being a 'fundy central' and there's all the
reason in the world for me to make the statement; "You can bet on it."
Of course, YMMV.
*shrug* I guess I'm not happy to see people make that kind of
assumption. YMMV, as well.
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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04 Apr 2005 01:42:26 AM |
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On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 15:14:11 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 21:44:01 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:54:35 -0800, usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum)
wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 00:56:50 GMT, Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net>
wrote:
[..]
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is
offering it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
So?
So why are you intent on saying he's a Christian if he might not be?
Fundies not only have the motivation, the drooling morons have been
deliberately stirred up. Combine that with decades of history and mix
with high percentages of citizens being of the Xtian superstition.
Factor in Flori-DUH's being a 'fundy central' and there's all the
reason in the world for me to make the statement; "You can bet on it."
Of course, YMMV.
*shrug* I guess I'm not happy to see people make that kind of
assumption. YMMV, as well.
No worries.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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03 Apr 2005 01:01:19 AM |
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Paul Mitchum writes:
*shrug* I guess I'm not happy to see people make that kind of
assumption. YMMV, as well.
LOL! Of course no similar assumption would ever be made by a
fundamentalist theist. The difference between being realistic and
being paranoid - according to whom?
Marvin
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03 Apr 2005 01:17:21 AM |
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marvin <marvin2@starband.net> wrote:
Paul Mitchum writes:
*shrug* I guess I'm not happy to see people make that kind of
assumption. YMMV, as well.
LOL! Of course no similar assumption would ever be made by a
fundamentalist theist.
Who cares if they would or not? If it's a stupid mistake, it's a stupid
mistake.
The difference between being realistic and being paranoid - according to
whom?
Well, if you want to base your own integrity on someone else's paranoia,
then you might have a point. But you aren't even doing that; you're
basing your integrity on an *assumption* about the people you oppose.
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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03 Apr 2005 10:18:55 PM |
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Me:
LOL! Of course no similar assumption would ever be made by a
fundamentalist theist.
Paul Mitchum:
Who cares if they would or not? If it's a stupid mistake, it's a stupid
mistake.
Me:
The difference between being realistic and being paranoid - according
to
whom?
Paul Mitchum:
Well, if you want to base your own integrity on someone else's
paranoia,
then you might have a point. But you aren't even doing that; you're
basing your integrity on an *assumption* about the people you oppose.
You're right, and I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your
name, and I failed to notice it on earlier posts as I read through the
thread. I took your reaction for that of a theist telling an atheist
what he should think and reacted in something like the way an Irish
person might if an English person told him he had no right to be
offended by drunken Irishman jokes. The analogy isn't perfect, I know,
but it boils down to a kind of parochial thing. If you're one of us,
you have a right to criticize; if you're not, expect your criticism to
be suspect no matter how valid it is. Despite my best efforts to be
unbiased and open minded, my emotions occasionally overcome my
intellect.
Marvin
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04 Apr 2005 03:55:38 AM |
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marvin <marvin2@starband.net> wrote:
Me:
LOL! Of course no similar assumption would ever be made by a
fundamentalist theist.
Paul Mitchum:
Who cares if they would or not? If it's a stupid mistake, it's a stupid
mistake.
Me:
The difference between being realistic and being paranoid - according
to
whom?
Paul Mitchum:
Well, if you want to base your own integrity on someone else's
paranoia,
then you might have a point. But you aren't even doing that; you're
basing your integrity on an *assumption* about the people you oppose.
You're right, and I owe you an apology. I wasn't familiar with your name,
and I failed to notice it on earlier posts as I read through the thread.
I took your reaction for that of a theist telling an atheist what he
should think and reacted in something like the way an Irish person might
if an English person told him he had no right to be offended by drunken
Irishman jokes. The analogy isn't perfect, I know, but it boils down to a
kind of parochial thing. If you're one of us, you have a right to
criticize; if you're not, expect your criticism to be suspect no matter
how valid it is. Despite my best efforts to be unbiased and open minded,
my emotions occasionally overcome my intellect.
It's big of you to apologize. I just don't see the value in assuming the
guy's a Christian because he did something naughty.
--
"Eighty percent of Republicans are just Democrats who don't know what's
going on." -- Robert Kennedy, Jr.
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31 Mar 2005 10:06:09 PM |
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usenet@mile23.c0m (Paul Mitchum) wrote in alt.atheism
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
Elroy Willis <elroywillis@swbell.net> wrote:
I saw on the news that somebody was offering a $200,000 bounty on the
head of Schiavo's husband. I assume it was a Christian who is offering
it?
You can bet on it.
I haven't seen any stories which address this one way or another.
It was on CNN a few days ago.
--
Elroy Willis
www.elroysemporium.com
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