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Religions > Atheism |
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"Jason Spaceman" |
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14 May 2005 08:00:02 AM |
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Op-Ed: Law-derived to survive |
From the article:
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By Don Stern
Special to The Times
I've just finished reading "Science, religion collide in Kansas
debate" [Times, News, May 6]. Kathy Martin, a member of the state
Board of Education (and retired science teacher), states: "... our
nation is based on Christianity, not science." No. No. No!
Our nation is based on law. Civil law. Ancient Greek concepts of
democracy, and Napoleonic and English civil law. That's why we don't
have a state religion. And I'm not about to sit around while ignorant
religious fanatics try to force one down our throats!
It's getting to the point where I have to check the calendar when I
wake up every morning to make sure the year is 2005 and not 1605. I'm
past the point of believing these are well-meaning but misguided folk
in search of a national morality to restore their sense of well-being
in the world. These are zealots in search of a religious fascism.
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Read it at
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/opinion/2002274599_satrdr14.html
(get a login ID at
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fseattletimes.nwsource.com)
J. Spaceman
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| User: "David Canzi -- non-mailable" |
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| Title: Re: Op-Ed: Law-derived to survive |
14 May 2005 03:24:31 PM |
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In article <vctb819hq8vd5uhl3454l9j6movoasd64d@4ax.com>,
Jason Spaceman <reply@usenet.com> wrote:
From the article:
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Kathy Martin, a member of the state
Board of Education (and retired science teacher), states: "... our
nation is based on Christianity, not science."
In so saying, she implicitly admits that Christianity is not science.
Which, then, should be taught in a science class?
Our science is based on science, not Christianity.
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David Canzi
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| User: "AC" |
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| Title: Re: Op-Ed: Law-derived to survive |
14 May 2005 12:28:16 PM |
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On Sat, 14 May 2005 09:00:02 -0400,
Jason Spaceman <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote:
From the article:
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By Don Stern
Special to The Times
I've just finished reading "Science, religion collide in Kansas
debate" [Times, News, May 6]. Kathy Martin, a member of the state
Board of Education (and retired science teacher), states: "... our
nation is based on Christianity, not science." No. No. No!
Our nation is based on law. Civil law. Ancient Greek concepts of
democracy, and Napoleonic and English civil law. That's why we don't
have a state religion. And I'm not about to sit around while ignorant
religious fanatics try to force one down our throats!
It's getting to the point where I have to check the calendar when I
wake up every morning to make sure the year is 2005 and not 1605. I'm
past the point of believing these are well-meaning but misguided folk
in search of a national morality to restore their sense of well-being
in the world. These are zealots in search of a religious fascism.
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Yes, sadly, the lie that Western legal systems are based on the Bible is an
oft repeated one (perhaps lie is too strong, I suspect many people actually
believe it). American and English law, at least, are largely based upon old
common law, whose origins are in the West Germanic traditions of the heirs
of Hengist and Horsa (pagans, if anyone cares to check up on it). Civil
law, so I understand, has its roots in Roman law (also mainly
non-Christian). Other than some heresy and sabbath laws, there's nothing
particularly Biblical about our legal systems.
What's more, in the US, it appears the Founding Fathers had every intention
of assuring that US law was not Christian.
--
mightymartianca@hotmail.com
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