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Religions > Atheism |
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"Andres64" |
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23 Feb 2007 06:10:16 AM |
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Opinions wanted... |
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
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| User: "the_Host" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 PM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
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| User: "Hollis Brown" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 01:43:49 PM |
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On Feb 23, 11:10 am, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andres...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...> Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c...).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Yes, it is ironic for an anonymous person to preach Christianity in an
atheist newsgroup while whining about the bravery and honesty of
others.
Until you are willing to stand up for your own (claimed) beliefs, you
should probably stop nattering at others. Otherwise, people might
start thinking you are nothing more than troll #1,666,427. Gosh, you
wouldn't want that, would you? ;-)
HB
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| User: "Andres64" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
25 Feb 2007 10:09:03 PM |
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On Feb 23, 1:10 pm, "the_Host" <the_H...@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andres...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...> Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c...).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
Who said anything about lying?
And they call me a liar!
If the shoe fits...
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wtf are you babbling about?
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
Liar.
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
Different dynamics. Try using that chunk of goo between your ears.
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
I'm right. Unfortunately, being right doesn't solve the problem
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
Wrong. Try again.
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
Wrong. Try again.
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Wrong. Try again.
Your co-worker has got you BEAT,
Wrong. Try again.
she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
And I wasn't?
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
See above.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself,
Wrong. Try again.
lie to others,
Wrong. Try again.
dodge the question, etc...
Wrong. Try again.
BEAT!
Wrong. Try again.
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Yes. It's called "the Host"
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
25 Feb 2007 11:29:03 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Says one hypocrite to the other.
atheist@home#1554
Host.
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| User: "William Wingstedt" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 12:38:01 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Sure do. What's your name, where do you work and what are your
beliefs?
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
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| User: "the_Host" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 01:00:25 PM |
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"William Wingstedt" <William_Wingstedt@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:45df3460.18374531@Newsgroups.Comcast.net...
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15
d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL
LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack
of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Sure do. What's your name, where do you work and what are your
beliefs?
Hahahah!!!!
Does she not know where her coworker lives and who she is????? Was her
co-worker SCARED?????
Maybe she should be if I read you correctly.
That was a lame attempt at redirection guy.
But to answer your questions:
Nonyabusiness,
Nonyabusiness, and
Can't you read?
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
Ditto.
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| User: "jem" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 01:57:35 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
She didn't lie about anything *****.
And they call me a liar!
Probably often too, listen to them.
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
That's the point of the post moron, asking for opinions and
considering rational thoughts. Pretty much excludes you.
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
Do you act like this in front of grandparents/parents/ priest/ anybody
you actually respect?
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Humiliating people is obviously your ambition, if you could read and
understand simple English you would know that's not her goal.
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Another incorrect assumption, how much practice does it take to be
this stupid?
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
You can't tell the difference, why ask?
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Stupid and rude really is your style, besides all those people calling
you a liar.
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Idiot.
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
That you think you understand? Ya, I see irony.
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
You're mean SPIRITed and your WORDs show it, congratulations on being
a frothing moron.
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| User: "the_Host" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 03:53:56 PM |
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"jem" <A0054883@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:b1hut2584sqd59p3aq6gvm495jkd8qge9d@4ax.com...
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15
d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
She didn't lie about anything *****.
And they call me a liar!
Probably often too, listen to them.
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL
LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
That's the point of the post moron, asking for opinions and
considering rational thoughts. Pretty much excludes you.
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
Do you act like this in front of grandparents/parents/ priest/ anybody
you actually respect?
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Humiliating people is obviously your ambition, if you could read and
understand simple English you would know that's not her goal.
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Another incorrect assumption, how much practice does it take to be
this stupid?
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
You can't tell the difference, why ask?
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack
of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Stupid and rude really is your style, besides all those people calling
you a liar.
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Idiot.
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
That you think you understand? Ya, I see irony.
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
You're mean SPIRITed and your WORDs show it, congratulations on being
a frothing moron.
Oh yeah, I'm mean spirited. Did you read some of the other opinions she was
offered?
Probably not...
H.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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23 Feb 2007 03:07:08 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host"
<the_Host@everywhere.net> wrote:
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Still a sociopath, eh?
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Mar 2007 09:09:34 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, "the_Host" <the_Host@everywhere.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
[snip stupid two year old toddler *****]
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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23 Feb 2007 03:04:11 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, the_Host wrote:
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
Which spirit would that be? Vodka?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each
other. They slander each other constantly with the vilest
forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of agreement
in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the
head of its own with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect
little pigs of those it wins over to its side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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| User: "Andres64" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
25 Feb 2007 10:11:27 PM |
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On Feb 23, 4:04 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 12:10:14 -0600, the_Host wrote:
"Andres64" <andres...@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c...).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Haha.
Why LIE about it????????
And they call me a liar!
Hahahah what a bunch of HYPOCRITICAL LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You not only LIE TO OTHERS, YOU LIE TO YOURSELF!!!!!
C'MON! Do what you think is RIGHT!
Tell her, "I am an ATHEIST, and I do NOT BELIEVE IN THAT HORSESHIT!" like
you tell people HERE!!!!
And then be sure to make fun of her by telling her she is a puppet, or
whatever makes you feel exonerated at the time...
Why be EMBARRASSED about it?????????
Are you RIGHT, or are you WRONG??????
Living PROOF that you are not comfortable in your belief system (or lack of
I guess)!
PROOF that YOU ARE NOT SURE OF YOURSELF!
YOU ARE NOT SURE!
Your co-worker has got you BEAT, she is at least HONEST about her beliefs
and will publicly stand up for her beliefs.
You, on the other hand, will lie to yourself, lie to others, dodge the
question, etc...
BEAT!
Does anyone else see the IRONY here?????
Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me your WORD and SPIRIT.
Host.
Which spirit would that be? Vodka?
Praise Grey Goose!
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| User: "Big Dave" |
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23 Feb 2007 07:17:01 AM |
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"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
I read that thread, and noticed that this happened in front of
coworkers. Did any of them come up to you after your conversation with her
and confess sympathy?
I'm just curious about that.
Anyway, I work among many degreed Xian people; some of them have the
Xian stuff plastered all over their offices. I would be willing to bet that,
within my office area that I am the only non-believer. None of them have
tried to preach to me. Two - total, have even discussed religion with me and
it wasn't too bad as we ended with agreeing to disagree. I don't think the
others want to talk to me about that subject as I have an "Evolve" coffee
cup on my shelf, and a SCIENCE fish pasted promanantly on my computer.
I think my advice would be, if she would be interested, to send her some
links to some good atheist stuff that doesn't start out by bashing Xian's,
(hard to do as they are sooooooo easy...). Tell her that you prefer not to
discuss religion if it is making you uncomfortable. Tell her it's not
important enough to mess up office chemistry. If she wants to continue, then
by all means go ahead as long as you are sensing that she is at least
considering your points.
If she is non-teachable, and starts to blather about hellfire and such,
then ***** her - she's stepped into evangelism and needs to be spayed.
HTH,
David H.
#2217
Convicted by Chunkie
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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23 Feb 2007 08:53:55 PM |
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In article <1172232616.147062.73450
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Andres64 said...
On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
That's the course you want to pursue, yes.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something.
Why? Too often polemics turn people away. A workplace isn't
the proper setting for heated religious debate in any case.
Act kindly (or least professionally) toward this person,
and do not let yourself be drawn into a religious spat. You
might well disabuse him of the notion that outsiders are
other and evil -- he will be forced by circumstance to
reevaluate his biases.
The problem with that is that it may be petty
and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Well, you might want to go easy on the Jesus jokes... ;-)
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "" |
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25 Feb 2007 11:46:27 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:53:55 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
In article <1172232616.147062.73450
@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Andres64 said...
On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
That's the course you want to pursue, yes.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something.
Why? Too often polemics turn people away. A workplace isn't
the proper setting for heated religious debate in any case.
Act kindly (or least professionally) toward this person,
and do not let yourself be drawn into a religious spat. You
might well disabuse him of the notion that outsiders are
other and evil -- he will be forced by circumstance to
reevaluate his biases.
The problem with that is that it may be petty
and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Well, you might want to go easy on the Jesus jokes... ;-)
Christ is on the cross, and Peter is down the hill conforting Mary
Magdelene when he hears a faint voice, "Peter...Peter..."
"I must go and help my saviour," he said and went up the hill, only to
be beaten and kicked back down by the Roman centurions guarding the
cross.
But again he hears, "Peter...Peter..." in even fainter tones, and he
cannot ignore the call.
He limps up the hill, leans a ladder against the cross and is halfway
up when the centurions knock over the ladder, beat him brutally and
toss him back down the hill.
Again, he hears, "Peter...Peter..." even fainter and he cannot sit
idle.
He staggers up the hill, drags himself up the ladder, and finally gets
even with Christ's face.
Just as the centurions are reaching for the ladder, Christ says,
"Peter...I can see your mother's house from here!"
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "johac" |
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24 Feb 2007 12:24:11 AM |
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In article <1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/
#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Since she's a co-worker, I'd be civil and not deliberatively provoke
her. If she brings up the subject again herself stand your ground.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Tink" |
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25 Feb 2007 02:19:48 PM |
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On 2007-02-23 07:10:16 -0500, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> said:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well,
she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
The sooner you open up the can of virtual whoop-*****, the better. She
will eventually get around to proselytizing you. When this happens it
will make it much harder to make her go away. ( You realize that the
minute she found out you were an atheist, she wrote you off right?)
Just get out the intellectual 2x4 and be done with it.
--
Skydivers don't knock on death's door; they ring the bell and run
away... It really pisses him off.
The World Famous Tink. (I never heard of you either!!)
AA #2069 ASA#33 POPS# 8808
EAC Chairman, Division of Skydiving and Sushi consumption.
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| User: "cactus" |
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25 Feb 2007 03:37:36 PM |
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Tink wrote:
On 2007-02-23 07:10:16 -0500, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com> said:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well,
she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
The sooner you open up the can of virtual whoop-*****, the better. She
will eventually get around to proselytizing you. When this happens it
will make it much harder to make her go away. ( You realize that the
minute she found out you were an atheist, she wrote you off right?)
Just get out the intellectual 2x4 and be done with it.
Talk to her. If she behaves properly, all is well. If she keeps trying
to proselytize, tell her hat she is harassing you and that is illegal.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Feb 2007 05:53:56 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <1172232616.147062.73450@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Rip her a new arsehole, without delay.
--
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| User: "Brian E. Clark" |
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23 Feb 2007 08:56:25 PM |
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In article <sjvut2h0ugo7vhj5msp1tv0tpg3a1jd8q5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray said...
Opinions?
Rip her a new arsehole, without delay.
I disagree. The world has enough assholes already.
Could he rip her a new brain, perhaps?
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Brian E. Clark
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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23 Feb 2007 09:41:25 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:56:25 -0500, Brian E. Clark
<reply@newsgroup.only.please> wrote:
- Refer: <MPG.20497360c57ce63398a31f@newsgroups.comcast.net>
In article <sjvut2h0ugo7vhj5msp1tv0tpg3a1jd8q5@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray said...
Opinions?
Rip her a new arsehole, without delay.
I disagree. The world has enough assholes already.
Could he rip her a new brain, perhaps?
Where will the ten tonnes of *****, that she has stored inside her,
flow out from then?
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| User: "Kate " |
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23 Feb 2007 09:03:01 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
By all means, be willing to pretend it's not an issue when you talk
about anything else and if it gets contentious, insist that it's a bad
idea to argue religion at work, that it's counter productive. Let her
be the bad guy.
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| User: "jem" |
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23 Feb 2007 11:52:14 AM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
I don't have much experience with office religion discussions, I like
Kate's reply.
Since it's a workplace, IMO the best thing is to politely back out of
the jesus talk, but not concede anything. If she is capable of
discussing it without getting emotional then you can have some fun I'm
sure, however unlikely that's possible for her. A tactic I have
admired is the polite refusal to argue, and then be completely
unresponsive in that exact topic, the person doing that kinda holds
the high ground. Keep communicating nicely on all other topics, so she
has no reason to be hostile.
The dynamic might not let you do that tho.
Acting like there never was a disagreement might be the easiest way to
go.
Personally I think I couldn't stop myself from slipping subtle
smartass comments in when there is no doubt the xtians are the idiots
in current events or whatever the subject is. Not everybody
appreciates it, and it's not the smartest thing to do at work.
Good luck...
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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24 Feb 2007 10:14:47 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
To many people, "atheist" = "evil". My opinion: Don't tell folks
you're an atheist. We can still do our part to disseminate truth.
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| User: "the_Host" |
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25 Feb 2007 03:47:13 PM |
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"Gospel Bretts" <bretts1962@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2732u2ldp9qrin69207q6li94qr0nkgu9k@4ax.com...
On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15
d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
To many people, "atheist" = "evil". My opinion: Don't tell folks
you're an atheist. We can still do our part to disseminate truth.
Yeah, lie about it...
Host.
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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25 Feb 2007 03:51:51 PM |
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On Feb 24, 8:14 pm, Gospel Bretts <bretts1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andres...@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c...).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
To many people, "atheist" = "evil". My opinion: Don't tell folks
you're an atheist. We can still do our part to disseminate truth.
Hey. I was wondering where you had got to just the other
day...computer malfunction?
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| User: "" |
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25 Feb 2007 11:24:40 PM |
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On 23 Feb 2007 04:10:16 -0800, "Andres64" <andresc64@excite.com>
wrote:
Well, as you may recall, I recently had a confrontation with a co-
worker (see the 'Typical "Christian" reaction" thread if interested -
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/1ff0d88c42fe15d4/#).
Well, she's decided to talk to me again and I'm not sure how I should
respond. I have been talking to her the last couple days, but I'm
ambivalent. On one hand, I feel like I should be mature about it and
let bygones be bygones and show her how a decent person should act.
OTOH, I feel like I should do/say something. The problem with that is
that it may be petty and make me and atheists in general look bad.
Opinions?
Yeah...leave it alone.
She's juiced on relgion.
Trying to turn her around is like trying to forcibly take crack from a
strung out druggie.
When the fight is over you will both end up battered and bruised and
she will still be stoned out of her mind.
And neither your boss or your coworkers are likely to be happy about
any of it.
atheist@home#1554
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Opinions wanted... |
23 Feb 2007 06:33:56 AM |
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She's brainwashed. I doubt you have the learning in psychology to
reverse it. Agree to differ while respecting each other's point of
view is always a good compromise. Turn the talk round to sex and see
if you have better luck there. She's obviously interested in you or
she wouldn't talk to you after outing yourself as an atheist.
justiz
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