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Religions > Atheism |
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"Tom Dickenhari" |
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31 Jan 2005 11:24:11 AM |
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Origin of the God idea |
Atheists and believers have both settled the only important question
about God; his existence.
It is logical for a believer to put God at the centre of everything,
but unbelief requires consideration of God from a human perspective.
God is the personification of hierarchy, having total authority and
zero responsibility. The corollary of hierarchy is forced labour.
We needed hierarchy to respond to an overwhelming catastrophe.
The catastrophe was increasing population and decreasing resources,
the solution was agriculture.
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Origin of the God idea |
01 Feb 2005 12:37:55 AM |
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"Tom Dickenhari" <tomdickenhari@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:b7a509c2.0501310324.7cee2149@posting.google.com...
Atheists and believers have both settled the only important question
about God; his existence.
It is logical for a believer to put God at the centre of everything,
but unbelief requires consideration of God from a human perspective.
God is the personification of hierarchy, having total authority and
zero responsibility. The corollary of hierarchy is forced labour.
We needed hierarchy to respond to an overwhelming catastrophe.
The catastrophe was increasing population and decreasing resources,
the solution was agriculture.
The catastrophe did not start until agriculture started. Then population
increased. Society developed specialization and better weapons were
invented. Then the agricultural communities gradually took over, partly
because of stress on the environment which made it harder for
hunter-gatherers to compete with the farm cultures, numerically.
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| User: "pensul" |
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| Title: Re: Origin of the God idea |
01 Feb 2005 01:21:53 AM |
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Atheists and believers have both settled the only important question
about God; his existence.
Atheists are those who have failed to settle what theism is, because atheism
is the cause of their being atheists, while there being theists is the cause of
theism. Theists do not have the burden of proving that they are theists,
neither do they cease being theists if their statements are not understood.
They do have the burden, like everyone else, of backing up their statements
with evidence, and if the evidence is lacking, it means that the theist lacks
the evidence, not that those he is addressing lack evidence of or belief in
theism. Thus atheism is really only applicable to a theist, because only one
who knows and believes the claims of theism can tell what a-theism or
non-theism is. The same could be said of agnostics in relation to gnosis.
Atheists are really disaffected gnostics, but because they can't come up with
a catchy phrase like agnosis, ( which is ridiculous ), they've thought up
atheism, which sounds like a belief but really isn't; this describes accurately
what they resent about gnosis. Briefly, they wish to be organized like a
religion in order to fight religion, but lack the vocabulary to do so.
Therefore, the word "atheist" really only describes a particular point of view
of theists which indicates their ignorance of the evidence of theism, not
theists themselves.
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"The world of existence is an emanation of the merciful attribute of God."
Abdul-Baha
http://www.costarricense.cr/pagina/ernobe
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Origin of the God idea |
01 Feb 2005 01:01:37 PM |
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 03:24:11 -0800, Tom Dickenhari wrote:
Atheists and believers have both settled the only important question about
God; his existence.
People need to feel in control, and want "meaning" in their lives. The
invention of invisible gods makes this possible.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Uncle Buck" |
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| Title: Re: Origin of the God idea |
01 Feb 2005 01:20:57 AM |
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Tom Dickenhari wrote:
Atheists and believers have both settled the only important question
about God; his existence.
Not really. It's not an "important question" to atheists. Sure, it's
one we keep getting _told_ is important. But it isn't. Really. Not to us.
It is logical for a believer to put God at the centre of everything,
but unbelief requires consideration of God from a human perspective.
Unbelief requires not being convinced by those who believe. Not
consideration of any gods.
[Gods are] the personification of hierarchy, having total authority and
^^^^^^^^^ correction added & bracketed
zero responsibility. The corollary of hierarchy is forced labour.
We needed hierarchy to respond to an overwhelming catastrophe.
The catastrophe was increasing population and decreasing resources,
the solution was agriculture.
Other than that one error, these last two paragraphs are pretty sensible.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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| Title: Re: Origin of the God idea |
31 Jan 2005 07:58:09 PM |
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on 31 Jan 2005 in alt.atheism, Tom Dickenhari dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
It is logical for a believer to put God at the centre of everything,
but unbelief requires consideration of God from a human perspective.
Unbelief is the default. All children are born unbelievers. Theists then
infect their minds with their dogma. Unbelief in the xian god takes as
much consideration as unbelief in Horus of Egypt.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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Why is it that most of the people who are against abortion are the kind of
people you wouldn't want to ***** in the first place?
--George Carlin
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