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User: "XYZ"
Date: 24 Jan 2006 06:31:34 PM
Object: Osama's Dead !
America's Top Bin Laden Expert: Osama's Dead, the Tape is Phony: ABC News
About the author: Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D in Arabic, with a focus in
Islamic Studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a
co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth.
Op-Ed by Kevin Barrett
As a Ph.D Islamologist and Arabist I really hate to say this, but I'll say
it anyway: 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. The war on terror is as
phony as the latest "Bin Laden tape."
....The trouble is, it's all based on a Big Lie. Take the recent "Bin Laden
tape". That voice was no more bin Laden than it was Rodney Dangerfield
channeling my late Aunt Corinne from Peoria. I recently helped translate a
previously unknown bin Laden tape, a real one from the early 90's, back when
he was still alive. I know the guy's flowery religious rhetoric. The
recent tape wasn't him.
The top American bin Laden expert agrees. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head of
Duke University's Religious Studies department, has just published a book of
translations of bin Laden's speeches. He says the recent tape is a fake,
and that bin Laden has been dead for years.
Ersatz bin Laden tapes, "verified" by the CIA, are nothing new. Every "Bin
Laden" statement since 2001 has been blatantly bogus. The last we heard
from the real bin Laden came in his post-9/11 statements to Pakistani
journalists: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which appears
to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation...I have
already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the
United States...I had no knowledge of these attacks..."
Then on December 13th, 2001, as George Bush was whining about the
"outrageous conspiracy theories" that were spreading like wildfire, the
first and shoddiest of the "Bin Laden speaks from beyond the grave" tapes
appeared. The video's sound and picture quality were horrible. It showed a
big guy with a black beard, doing a passable imitation of bin Laden's voice,
claiming foreknowledge, if not responsibility, for the 9/11 attacks, and
chortling over their success. The trouble was, the big guy clearly was not
bin Laden. He was at least 40 or 50 pounds heavier, and his facial features
were obviously different.
The "Fatty Bin Laden" was widely ridiculed, and I have yet to meet an
informed observer who considers it authentic. (If you haven't figured this
out yet, go back and look at the images from the tape, and compare them to
other images of bin Laden.) But the media let the fraud pass without asking
the hard questions: Why was the US government waving this blatantly fake
"confession" video in our faces?
Perhaps due to the widespread hilarity evoked by "Fatty Bin Laden," the next
"Osama from beyond the grave" message had no images--it was an audio tape
delivered to al-Jazeera in fall, 2002. The CIA verified it as authentic and
then got a rotten egg in the face when the world's leading voice
identification experts at IDIAP in Switzerland reported that "the message
was recorded by an imposter."
Every "bin Laden" message since then has been equally phony. They are
released at moments when the Bush regime needs a boost---and the American
media goes along with the fraud. Remember the bogus bin Laden tape that
made headlines right before the 2004 presidential elections? ...Walter
Kronkite, bless his heart, opined that Karl Rove was behind that tape. But
the rest of the media just kept pretending that the Emperor was clothed.
And the fraud continues. Last week's "bin Laden tape" has been ridiculed by
America's top bin Laden expert--yet the US media keep right on holding a
transparent fig leaf in front of the Emperor's crotch! Professor Lawrence
believes that this phony tape was designed to distract world opinion from
the horrific massacre of Pakistani civilians by an errant CIA drone. But it
may have another, more sinister purpose: to prepare public opinion for
another false-flag 9/11 style attack designed to trigger a US-Israeli attack
on Iran.
As our top bin Laden expert Professor Lawrence informs us, the real bin
Laden, who insisted he had nothing to do with 9/11, has been dead for quite
some time--probably since 2001. The fake messages have been fabricated by
al-CIA-duh to support the Bush regime and its phony "war on terror." It is
time for Americans to rise up in revolt against the fake-terror masters who
are looting American taxpayers, torching our Constitution, and threatening
nuclear Armageddon.
### ###
XYZ
.

User: "Khubla"

Title: Re: Osama's Dead ! 24 Jan 2006 07:04:34 PM
Another conspiracy theory with the usual wild accusations.
Khubla
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GFzBf.216489$tl.161843@pd7tw3no...

America's Top Bin Laden Expert: Osama's Dead, the Tape is Phony: ABC News

About the author: Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D in Arabic, with a focus in
Islamic Studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a
co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth.

Op-Ed by Kevin Barrett

As a Ph.D Islamologist and Arabist I really hate to say this, but I'll say
it anyway: 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. The war on terror is as
phony as the latest "Bin Laden tape."

...The trouble is, it's all based on a Big Lie. Take the recent "Bin
Laden
tape". That voice was no more bin Laden than it was Rodney Dangerfield
channeling my late Aunt Corinne from Peoria. I recently helped translate
a
previously unknown bin Laden tape, a real one from the early 90's, back
when
he was still alive. I know the guy's flowery religious rhetoric. The
recent tape wasn't him.

The top American bin Laden expert agrees. Professor Bruce Lawrence, head
of
Duke University's Religious Studies department, has just published a book
of
translations of bin Laden's speeches. He says the recent tape is a fake,
and that bin Laden has been dead for years.

Ersatz bin Laden tapes, "verified" by the CIA, are nothing new. Every
"Bin
Laden" statement since 2001 has been blatantly bogus. The last we heard
from the real bin Laden came in his post-9/11 statements to Pakistani
journalists: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which
appears
to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation...I have
already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the
United States...I had no knowledge of these attacks..."

Then on December 13th, 2001, as George Bush was whining about the
"outrageous conspiracy theories" that were spreading like wildfire, the
first and shoddiest of the "Bin Laden speaks from beyond the grave" tapes
appeared. The video's sound and picture quality were horrible. It showed
a
big guy with a black beard, doing a passable imitation of bin Laden's
voice,
claiming foreknowledge, if not responsibility, for the 9/11 attacks, and
chortling over their success. The trouble was, the big guy clearly was
not
bin Laden. He was at least 40 or 50 pounds heavier, and his facial
features
were obviously different.

The "Fatty Bin Laden" was widely ridiculed, and I have yet to meet an
informed observer who considers it authentic. (If you haven't figured
this
out yet, go back and look at the images from the tape, and compare them to
other images of bin Laden.) But the media let the fraud pass without
asking
the hard questions: Why was the US government waving this blatantly fake
"confession" video in our faces?

Perhaps due to the widespread hilarity evoked by "Fatty Bin Laden," the
next
"Osama from beyond the grave" message had no images--it was an audio tape
delivered to al-Jazeera in fall, 2002. The CIA verified it as authentic
and
then got a rotten egg in the face when the world's leading voice
identification experts at IDIAP in Switzerland reported that "the message
was recorded by an imposter."

Every "bin Laden" message since then has been equally phony. They are
released at moments when the Bush regime needs a boost---and the American
media goes along with the fraud. Remember the bogus bin Laden tape that
made headlines right before the 2004 presidential elections? ...Walter
Kronkite, bless his heart, opined that Karl Rove was behind that tape.
But
the rest of the media just kept pretending that the Emperor was clothed.

And the fraud continues. Last week's "bin Laden tape" has been ridiculed
by
America's top bin Laden expert--yet the US media keep right on holding a
transparent fig leaf in front of the Emperor's crotch! Professor Lawrence
believes that this phony tape was designed to distract world opinion from
the horrific massacre of Pakistani civilians by an errant CIA drone. But
it
may have another, more sinister purpose: to prepare public opinion for
another false-flag 9/11 style attack designed to trigger a US-Israeli
attack
on Iran.

As our top bin Laden expert Professor Lawrence informs us, the real bin
Laden, who insisted he had nothing to do with 9/11, has been dead for
quite
some time--probably since 2001. The fake messages have been fabricated by
al-CIA-duh to support the Bush regime and its phony "war on terror." It
is
time for Americans to rise up in revolt against the fake-terror masters
who
are looting American taxpayers, torching our Constitution, and threatening
nuclear Armageddon.

### ###

XYZ



.
User: "XYZ"

Title: Re: Osama's Dead ! 24 Jan 2006 09:15:07 PM
"Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:geWdnZOZvukXU0veRVn-jw@adelphia.com...

Another conspiracy theory with the usual wild accusations.

One way to ignore doubts or even evidence supported by experts opposing the
truth of some stories in the news is to label them as"wild conspiracy
theories." Some of these allegations are pretty convincing, i.e., the
pictures and comments on the surprising implosion of the W.T buildings. Do
you believe the the Bush government is completely incapable of any of this?
Perhaps some of these "wild theories" might warrant an impartial
investigation, if such is possible.
XYZ


Khubla
"XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:GFzBf.216489$tl.161843@pd7tw3no...

America's Top Bin Laden Expert: Osama's Dead, the Tape is Phony: ABC

News


About the author: Kevin Barrett holds a Ph.D in Arabic, with a focus in
Islamic Studies, from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. He is a
co-founder of the Muslim-Jewish-Christian Alliance for 9/11 Truth.

Op-Ed by Kevin Barrett

As a Ph.D Islamologist and Arabist I really hate to say this, but I'll

say

it anyway: 9/11 had nothing to do with Islam. The war on terror is as
phony as the latest "Bin Laden tape."

...The trouble is, it's all based on a Big Lie. Take the recent "Bin
Laden
tape". That voice was no more bin Laden than it was Rodney Dangerfield
channeling my late Aunt Corinne from Peoria. I recently helped

translate

a
previously unknown bin Laden tape, a real one from the early 90's, back
when
he was still alive. I know the guy's flowery religious rhetoric. The
recent tape wasn't him.

The top American bin Laden expert agrees. Professor Bruce Lawrence,

head

of
Duke University's Religious Studies department, has just published a

book

of
translations of bin Laden's speeches. He says the recent tape is a

fake,

and that bin Laden has been dead for years.

Ersatz bin Laden tapes, "verified" by the CIA, are nothing new. Every
"Bin
Laden" statement since 2001 has been blatantly bogus. The last we heard
from the real bin Laden came in his post-9/11 statements to Pakistani
journalists: "I stress that I have not carried out this act, which
appears
to have been carried out by individuals with their own motivation...I

have

already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the
United States...I had no knowledge of these attacks..."

Then on December 13th, 2001, as George Bush was whining about the
"outrageous conspiracy theories" that were spreading like wildfire, the
first and shoddiest of the "Bin Laden speaks from beyond the grave"

tapes

appeared. The video's sound and picture quality were horrible. It

showed

a
big guy with a black beard, doing a passable imitation of bin Laden's
voice,
claiming foreknowledge, if not responsibility, for the 9/11 attacks, and
chortling over their success. The trouble was, the big guy clearly was
not
bin Laden. He was at least 40 or 50 pounds heavier, and his facial
features
were obviously different.

The "Fatty Bin Laden" was widely ridiculed, and I have yet to meet an
informed observer who considers it authentic. (If you haven't figured
this
out yet, go back and look at the images from the tape, and compare them

to

other images of bin Laden.) But the media let the fraud pass without
asking
the hard questions: Why was the US government waving this blatantly

fake

"confession" video in our faces?

Perhaps due to the widespread hilarity evoked by "Fatty Bin Laden," the
next
"Osama from beyond the grave" message had no images--it was an audio

tape

delivered to al-Jazeera in fall, 2002. The CIA verified it as authentic
and
then got a rotten egg in the face when the world's leading voice
identification experts at IDIAP in Switzerland reported that "the

message

was recorded by an imposter."

Every "bin Laden" message since then has been equally phony. They are
released at moments when the Bush regime needs a boost---and the

American

media goes along with the fraud. Remember the bogus bin Laden tape that
made headlines right before the 2004 presidential elections? ...Walter
Kronkite, bless his heart, opined that Karl Rove was behind that tape.
But
the rest of the media just kept pretending that the Emperor was clothed.

And the fraud continues. Last week's "bin Laden tape" has been

ridiculed

by
America's top bin Laden expert--yet the US media keep right on holding a
transparent fig leaf in front of the Emperor's crotch! Professor

Lawrence

believes that this phony tape was designed to distract world opinion

from

the horrific massacre of Pakistani civilians by an errant CIA drone.

But

it
may have another, more sinister purpose: to prepare public opinion for
another false-flag 9/11 style attack designed to trigger a US-Israeli
attack
on Iran.

As our top bin Laden expert Professor Lawrence informs us, the real bin
Laden, who insisted he had nothing to do with 9/11, has been dead for
quite
some time--probably since 2001. The fake messages have been fabricated

by

al-CIA-duh to support the Bush regime and its phony "war on terror." It
is
time for Americans to rise up in revolt against the fake-terror masters
who
are looting American taxpayers, torching our Constitution, and

threatening

nuclear Armageddon.

### ###

XYZ





.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Osama's Dead ! 25 Jan 2006 02:51:27 AM
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:15:07 GMT, "XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <%2CBf.441681$ki.23392@pd7tw2no>


"Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:geWdnZOZvukXU0veRVn-jw@adelphia.com...

Another conspiracy theory with the usual wild accusations.



One way to ignore doubts or even evidence supported by experts opposing the
truth of some stories in the news is to label them as"wild conspiracy
theories." Some of these allegations are pretty convincing, i.e., the
pictures and comments on the surprising implosion of the W.T buildings. Do
you believe the the Bush government is completely incapable of any of this?
Perhaps some of these "wild theories" might warrant an impartial
investigation, if such is possible.

XYZ

:
The Bush government can't even organise an invasion of a decimated
coutry that should have been a walk-over, whatever one thinks of the
morals involved.
If you have that much confidence in his government, then perhaps you
should get a job as his publicity agent.
***** knows, he needs one.
.
User: "Rick"

Title: Re: Osama's Dead ! 25 Jan 2006 09:06:34 PM
Michael Gray wrote in message
<8seet1lakdljnqjldilk66aj276bjon95i@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:15:07 GMT, "XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <%2CBf.441681$ki.23392@pd7tw2no>


"Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:geWdnZOZvukXU0veRVn-jw@adelphia.com...

Another conspiracy theory with the usual wild accusations.



One way to ignore doubts or even evidence supported by experts opposing

the

truth of some stories in the news is to label them as"wild conspiracy
theories." Some of these allegations are pretty convincing, i.e., the
pictures and comments on the surprising implosion of the W.T buildings.

Do

you believe the the Bush government is completely incapable of any of

this?

Perhaps some of these "wild theories" might warrant an impartial
investigation, if such is possible.

XYZ

:

The Bush government can't even organise an invasion of a decimated
coutry that should have been a walk-over,

What are you talking about? The invasion was simple and successful. If you
want to dispute what happened afterwards, which even the most ardent
anti-bush folks would say shouldn't have been a walkover, well, that's a
different issue.

whatever one thinks of the
morals involved.

If you have that much confidence in his government, then perhaps you
should get a job as his publicity agent.
***** knows, he needs one.

- Rick
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Osama's Dead ! 26 Jan 2006 04:04:41 AM
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 21:06:34 -0600, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
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Michael Gray wrote in message
<8seet1lakdljnqjldilk66aj276bjon95i@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 03:15:07 GMT, "XYZ" <allgrownup@hotmail.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <%2CBf.441681$ki.23392@pd7tw2no>


"Khubla" <khubla@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:geWdnZOZvukXU0veRVn-jw@adelphia.com...

Another conspiracy theory with the usual wild accusations.



One way to ignore doubts or even evidence supported by experts opposing

the

truth of some stories in the news is to label them as"wild conspiracy
theories." Some of these allegations are pretty convincing, i.e., the
pictures and comments on the surprising implosion of the W.T buildings.

Do

you believe the the Bush government is completely incapable of any of

this?

Perhaps some of these "wild theories" might warrant an impartial
investigation, if such is possible.

XYZ

:

The Bush government can't even organise an invasion of a decimated
coutry that should have been a walk-over,


What are you talking about? The invasion was simple and successful. If you
want to dispute what happened afterwards, which even the most ardent
anti-bush folks would say shouldn't have been a walkover, well, that's a
different issue.

I'm glad you aren't a military planner.
By your definition, landing all your troops on Omaha beach, and having
them all mown down by machine guns, would constitute a "successful"
invasion.
The yanks still haven't secured most of the towns and cities.
That is not "after", but part of the invasion strategy. unless you
want to be a wanker-with-words.
(Which I suspect you do want, rather than discussing the actual
substance of the matter at hand.)

whatever one thinks of the
morals involved.

If you have that much confidence in his government, then perhaps you
should get a job as his publicity agent.
***** knows, he needs one.


- Rick

.






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