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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Meteorite Debris"
Date: 24 Jan 2006 11:38:44 PM
Object: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit
Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences to
the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist Washington's
adventurism.
***
Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit
2006 Jan 25
Feedback Tony Walker | Ottawa
http://afr.com/premium/articles/2006/01/24/1138066787403.html
Canada has elected a Conservative government in a significant
realignment that will bring closer ties with the Bush administration
and a shift in power to the booming resource-rich west of the country.
But prime minister-elect Stephen Harper, a 46-year-old economist and
self-declared "small government conservative" from the oil province of
Alberta, faces significant challenges as head of a minority government
without natural allies in the parliament.
Mr Harper is certain to be welcomed by the Bush administration as a
replacement for outgoing Prime Minister and Liberal leader Paul
Martin, and Mr Martin's predecessor, Jean Chretien, who found it
politically expedient to adopt hostile positions towards the US on
various issues, including the Iraq war, missile defence and the Kyoto
Protocol.
Mr Harper will tread warily because he will not wish to be regarded as
Mr Bush's lackey, but his position on these defining foreign policy
issues is relatively close to those of the Bush administration. His
promise to spend an additional $US5billion ($6.6 billion) on defence
to improve Canada's ability to contribute to world peacekeeping will
find favour in Washington.
The Conservative victory will also be welcomed in Canberra,
particularly by Prime Minister John Howard, who has emerged as
something of a mentor to MrHarper. Mr Howard will now have another
conservative ally in forums such as the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-
operation forum and the Commonwealth.
The Canadian dollar fell in anticipation of a Harper victory, because
of concerns about the political longevity of a minority
administration.
Counting continued into the night, but it appeared that the
Conservatives had won about 125 seats, well short of the 155 needed
for a majority in the 308-member House of Commons.
The Liberals, who went into the election with 133 seats, appear to
have lost about 30 seats to the Conservatives and the left-leaning New
Democrats. The separatist Bloc Quebecois preserved its position in its
Quebec stronghold.
But a wipeout for the Liberals, who had held power for 13 years, and a
Conservative surge predicted by some opinion polls did not
materialise. The Conservatives boosted their vote outside their
western Canadian heartland. The Liberals held their ground in and
around Toronto but lost seats in Quebec.
Mr Harper, who has pledged to clean up Canadian politics marred by
financial scandals under the Liberals, will need to build alliances
across party lines if he is to implement his legislative agenda and
avoid the fate of his predecessor, who was brought down by a
no-confidence vote in November.
The Conservatives have pledged to cut taxes, including the GST to 5
per cent from 7 per cent within five years. Mr Harper also promised to
provide more autonomy and funding for Canada's 13 provinces and
territories.
The Liberals' defeat is likely to spell the end for Mr Martin, 67, who
led an accident-prone administration and contributed to his party's
downfall by fighting a bumbling campaign.
Mr Harper inherits a robust economy, largely because of the resources
boom.
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User: "Douglas Berry"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 25 Jan 2006 07:45:25 AM
What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed, 25
Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?

Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences to
the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist Washington's
adventurism.

Not so fast.
The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only 40%
of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything done, they
have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.
If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.
--
Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
.
User: "Fester"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 28 Jan 2006 05:31:17 PM
Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed, 25
Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences to
the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist Washington's
adventurism.



Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only 40%
of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything done, they
have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.

Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction of
sanity! We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty, that
no country in the world (except for those like China who are largely
exempt) has been able to comply with. All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this election.
.
User: "Olrik"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 28 Jan 2006 10:59:07 PM
Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed, 25
Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only 40%
of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything done, they
have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction of
sanity!

"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty, that
no country in the world (except for those like China who are largely
exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.

Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.
--
Olrik
aa #1981
Qualified SMASH member
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 07:22:57 AM
Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:CWXCf.41113$lM1.533473@weber.videotron.net:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed,
25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only
40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything
done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

The Conservatives were elected to keep your Liberals in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty,
that no country in the world (except for those like China who are
largely exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.

What makes you think we want a servant?
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.
.
User: "olrik666"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 01:11:05 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:CWXCf.41113$lM1.533473@weber.videotron.net:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed,
25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only
40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything
done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.


The Conservatives were elected to keep your Liberals in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty,
that no country in the world (except for those like China who are
largely exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


What makes you think we want a servant?

Well, the USA sure throw a hissy fit when we Canadians refuse to
participate in some follies like the "Star Wars" anti-missile thing and
the war in Iraq.
Olrik

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.

.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 09:28:01 PM
"olrik666" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1138561865.243549.151360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:CWXCf.41113$lM1.533473@weber.videotron.net:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on
Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is,
it goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing
to do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers
is a bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code
for sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the
world to assist Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding
only 40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get
anything done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment
will call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the
direction of sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.


The Conservatives were elected to keep your Liberals in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto
treaty, that no country in the world (except for those like China
who are largely exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


What makes you think we want a servant?


Well, the USA sure throw a hissy fit when we Canadians refuse to
participate in some follies like the "Star Wars" anti-missile thing
and the war in Iraq.

Calling them "follies" wasn't very polite either.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 30 Jan 2006 04:00:48 AM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns975AE483EA798fstone69@213.155.197.138...

"olrik666" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1138561865.243549.151360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:CWXCf.41113$lM1.533473@weber.videotron.net:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on
Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is,
it goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing
to do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers
is a bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code
for sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the
world to assist Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding
only 40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get
anything done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment
will call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the
direction of sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.


The Conservatives were elected to keep your Liberals in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto
treaty, that no country in the world (except for those like China
who are largely exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


What makes you think we want a servant?


Well, the USA sure throw a hissy fit when we Canadians refuse to
participate in some follies like the "Star Wars" anti-missile thing
and the war in Iraq.


Calling them "follies" wasn't very polite either.

The truth isn't always polite.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"I love songs about horses, railroads, land, judgement day, family, hard
times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder,
war,prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor,
piety, rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness,
heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God. 'Rusty Cage' must fit in some of
these categories." - J. Cash
.


User: "Michelle Malkin"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 08:52:58 PM
"olrik666" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1138561865.243549.151360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Fred Stone wrote:

Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com> wrote in
news:CWXCf.41113$lM1.533473@weber.videotron.net:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed,
25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only
40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything
done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.


The Conservatives were elected to keep your Liberals in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty,
that no country in the world (except for those like China who are
largely exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


What makes you think we want a servant?


Well, the USA sure throw a hissy fit when we Canadians refuse to
participate in some follies like the "Star Wars" anti-missile thing and
the war in Iraq.

That was the dictatorship that has taken over
our government, not the American people.
And, even more people support you now than
then.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^


Olrik

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.


.



User: "Fester"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 04:12:20 PM
Olrik wrote:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed, 25
Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.





Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only 40%
of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything done, they
have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.




Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!



"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good start,
if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty, that no
country in the world (except for those like China who are largely
exempt) has been able to comply with. All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.



Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.

Here's what amuses me. Libs have done their feeble best to make the
case that Bush has "isolated" America and that nobody likes us. Aside
from the blithely ignoring our improved relations with Japan, India and
eastern Europe (you know, the countries with both growing economies and
populations and thus the future), we're seeing a trend in the old
anti-US stalwarts as well. Canada's old government is one example, and
another is Germany's. Suddenly, it's Chirac who's isolated and Bush is
Mr Congeniality around the parts of the world that even libs think
count! Seems to me that perhaps the problem all along wasn't with Bush,
but with those self-righteous liberal governments.
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 09:29:50 PM
Fester <not@home.com> wrote in
news:85bDf.56478$0h.53554@tornado.southeast.rr.com:

Olrik wrote:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed,
25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it
goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing to
do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a
bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for
sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to
assist Washington's adventurism.





Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only
40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything
done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.




Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!



"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty,
that no country in the world (except for those like China who are
largely exempt) has been able to comply with. All in all, I'm
hopeful that Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a
result of this election.



Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


Here's what amuses me. Libs have done their feeble best to make the
case that Bush has "isolated" America and that nobody likes us. Aside
from the blithely ignoring our improved relations with Japan, India
and eastern Europe (you know, the countries with both growing
economies and populations and thus the future), we're seeing a trend
in the old anti-US stalwarts as well. Canada's old government is one
example, and another is Germany's. Suddenly, it's Chirac who's
isolated and Bush is Mr Congeniality around the parts of the world
that even libs think count! Seems to me that perhaps the problem all
along wasn't with Bush, but with those self-righteous liberal
governments.

Seems that anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism is a good way
for foreign leaders to get themselves de-elected.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.
.
User: "olrik666"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 11:53:35 PM
Fred Stone wrote:

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in
news:85bDf.56478$0h.53554@tornado.southeast.rr.com:

Olrik wrote:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed,
25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it
goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing to
do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a
bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for
sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to
assist Washington's adventurism.





Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only
40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything
done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.




Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction
of sanity!



"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty,
that no country in the world (except for those like China who are
largely exempt) has been able to comply with. All in all, I'm
hopeful that Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a
result of this election.



Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


Here's what amuses me. Libs have done their feeble best to make the
case that Bush has "isolated" America and that nobody likes us. Aside
from the blithely ignoring our improved relations with Japan, India
and eastern Europe (you know, the countries with both growing
economies and populations and thus the future), we're seeing a trend
in the old anti-US stalwarts as well. Canada's old government is one
example, and another is Germany's. Suddenly, it's Chirac who's
isolated and Bush is Mr Congeniality around the parts of the world
that even libs think count! Seems to me that perhaps the problem all
along wasn't with Bush, but with those self-righteous liberal
governments.


Seems that anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism is a good way
for foreign leaders to get themselves de-elected.

Do you have any example where a government was recently booted out of
office *because* of "anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism"?
Seriously. I'd like to know.
As for the recent elections in Canada, our current relations with the
USA played a very small part (if any) in the ousting of the Liberal
party. It was mostly fatigue about the administration and of course the
big sponsorship scandal. BTW, I never voted for the Liberal party nor
the conservatives.
Olrik

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.

.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 30 Jan 2006 07:38:26 AM
"olrik666" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1138600415.181145.202270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:


Fred Stone wrote:

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in
news:85bDf.56478$0h.53554@tornado.southeast.rr.com:

Olrik wrote:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on
Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is,
it goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing
to do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers
is a bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is
code for sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of
the world to assist Washington's adventurism.





Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding
only 40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get
anything done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and
NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment
will call for new elections in a heartbeat.




Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the
direction of sanity!



"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto
treaty, that no country in the world (except for those like China
who are largely exempt) has been able to comply with. All in
all, I'm hopeful that Canada will become a better neighbor to the
US as a result of this election.



Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


Here's what amuses me. Libs have done their feeble best to make
the case that Bush has "isolated" America and that nobody likes us.
Aside from the blithely ignoring our improved relations with
Japan, India and eastern Europe (you know, the countries with both
growing economies and populations and thus the future), we're
seeing a trend in the old anti-US stalwarts as well. Canada's old
government is one example, and another is Germany's. Suddenly,
it's Chirac who's isolated and Bush is Mr Congeniality around the
parts of the world that even libs think count! Seems to me that
perhaps the problem all along wasn't with Bush, but with those
self-righteous liberal governments.


Seems that anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism is a good
way for foreign leaders to get themselves de-elected.


Do you have any example where a government was recently booted out of
office *because* of "anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism"?

Seriously. I'd like to know.

Gerhard Schroeder of Germany. (sp?)
At least anti-Bushism didn't save him.
I seem to recall that the French came pretty close to electing the
"right-wing" candidate?

As for the recent elections in Canada, our current relations with the
USA played a very small part (if any) in the ousting of the Liberal
party. It was mostly fatigue about the administration and of course
the big sponsorship scandal. BTW, I never voted for the Liberal party
nor the conservatives.

--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
"Dems say Repubs imperil civil liberties. David Koresh and Elian
Gonzalez were not available for comment." - Anon.
.
User: "G-Ride"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 30 Jan 2006 12:17:22 PM
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
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"olrik666" <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
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Fred Stone wrote:

Fester <not@home.com> wrote in
news:85bDf.56478$0h.53554@tornado.southeast.rr.com:

Olrik wrote:

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on
Wed, 25 Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My
condolences to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is,
it goes without saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is
"hostile" to the US, only "politically expedient", and nothing
to do with global warming and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers
is a bare arsed misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is
code for sending young Canadians to DU contaminated areas of
the world to assist Washington's adventurism.





Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding
only 40% of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get
anything done, they have to make deals with the Liberals and
NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment
will call for new elections in a heartbeat.




Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the
direction of sanity!



"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto
treaty, that no country in the world (except for those like China
who are largely exempt) has been able to comply with. All in
all, I'm hopeful that Canada will become a better neighbor to the
US as a result of this election.



Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.


Here's what amuses me. Libs have done their feeble best to make
the case that Bush has "isolated" America and that nobody likes us.
Aside from the blithely ignoring our improved relations with
Japan, India and eastern Europe (you know, the countries with both
growing economies and populations and thus the future), we're
seeing a trend in the old anti-US stalwarts as well. Canada's old
government is one example, and another is Germany's. Suddenly,
it's Chirac who's isolated and Bush is Mr Congeniality around the
parts of the world that even libs think count! Seems to me that
perhaps the problem all along wasn't with Bush, but with those
self-righteous liberal governments.


Seems that anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism is a good
way for foreign leaders to get themselves de-elected.


Do you have any example where a government was recently booted out of
office *because* of "anti-Americanism or more correctly anti-Bushism"?

Seriously. I'd like to know.


Gerhard Schroeder of Germany. (sp?)

At least anti-Bushism didn't save him.

I seem to recall that the French came pretty close to electing the
"right-wing" candidate?

So your answer is no.
--
Aloha, G-Ride
"I love songs about horses, railroads, land, judgement day, family, hard
times, whiskey, courtship, marriage, adultery, separation, murder, war,
prison, rambling, damnation, home, salvation, death, pride, humor, piety,
rebellion, patriotism, larceny, determination, tragedy, rowdiness,
heartbreak and love. And Mother. And God. 'Rusty Cage' must fit in some of
these categories." - J. Cash
.





User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT - Canada swings closer to Bush's orbit 29 Jan 2006 09:47:42 AM
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 23:59:07 -0500, Olrik <olrik666@yahoo_BACON!_.com>
wrote in alt.atheism

Fester wrote:

Douglas Berry wrote:

What's so funny about peace, love and Meteorite Debris
<epicurus1@YOUR_SHOESoptusnet.com.au> posting the following on Wed, 25
Jan 2006 16:08:44 +1030 iin alt.atheism?


Canada's new Prime Minister is a fan of John Howard. My condolences
to the Canadians on this list. The AFR article is, it goes without
saying, biased. The idea that signing Kyoto is "hostile" to the US,
only "politically expedient", and nothing to do with global warming
and shrinking ice sheets and glaciers is a bare arsed
misrepresentation. "World peace keeping" is code for sending young
Canadians to DU contaminated areas of the world to assist
Washington's adventurism.




Not so fast.

The Conservatives have to form a minority government, holding only 40%
of the seats in Parliment. This means that to get anything done, they
have to make deals with the Liberals and NDP.

If they try to push things too far to the right, the Parliment will
call for new elections in a heartbeat.



Nonetheless, it is good to see the Canadians moving in the direction of
sanity!


"Sanity"? Canada is a rather tranquil country, we're enjoying good
economic growth and budget surplus. I just hope we'll keep these
Conservatives in check.

We'll see how fragile their control is. Certainly it's a good
start, if they can crawl out from under that horrible Kyoto treaty, that
no country in the world (except for those like China who are largely
exempt) has been able to comply with.
All in all, I'm hopeful that
Canada will become a better neighbor to the US as a result of this
election.


Canada *is* a good neighbor. What it is not is your servant.

Neither is; France, Germany, Poland........
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.





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