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16 Oct 2004 07:45:55 PM |
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OT - Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip |
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20041015#intel_cancels_p4_4ghz_chip
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http://tinyurl.com/5pgfl
Friday October 15, 2004
Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip
Reuters reports that :
Intel Corp on Thursday canceled plans to introduce its highest-speed
desktop computer chip, ending for now a 25-year run that has seen the
speeds of Intel's microprocessors increase by more than 750 times ....
cranking up the speed of its Pentium 4 chips to four gigahertz, or
billions of cycles per second, has been an elusive goal for Intel.
When the latest rendition of the Pentium 4 was introduced in February,
Intel said it would reach the 4 gigahertz speed by the end of the
year.
.... in July, citing concerns about having enough supply to meet
customer demand, Intel delayed plans for four gigahertz until the end
of March 2005. Thursday's announcement puts an end to the goal
entirely, at least for the current generation of processors. The
unexpected move also adds to a string of product changes,
cancellations and recalls that has roiled the world's largest chip
maker this year ...
- "Peak Chip", anyone? Is this *it* - *gasp* - the End of Moore's Law?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip |
16 Oct 2004 07:45:44 PM |
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Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1bdc48abd8aa9e4c989f02@news.optusnet.com.au:
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20041015#intel_cancels_p4_4ghz_chip
or
http://tinyurl.com/5pgfl
Friday October 15, 2004
Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip
Reuters reports that :
Intel Corp on Thursday canceled plans to introduce its highest-speed
desktop computer chip, ending for now a 25-year run that has seen the
speeds of Intel's microprocessors increase by more than 750 times ....
cranking up the speed of its Pentium 4 chips to four gigahertz, or
billions of cycles per second, has been an elusive goal for Intel.
When the latest rendition of the Pentium 4 was introduced in February,
Intel said it would reach the 4 gigahertz speed by the end of the
year.
... in July, citing concerns about having enough supply to meet
customer demand, Intel delayed plans for four gigahertz until the end
of March 2005. Thursday's announcement puts an end to the goal
entirely, at least for the current generation of processors. The
unexpected move also adds to a string of product changes,
cancellations and recalls that has roiled the world's largest chip
maker this year ...
- "Peak Chip", anyone? Is this *it* - *gasp* - the End of Moore's Law?
They've started talking about putting more computing cores per chip
instead. 4Ghz isn't even close to the theoretical limit on internal
"clock speed" but they were having trouble with heat extraction.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil?
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| Title: Re: OT - Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip |
17 Oct 2004 12:09:51 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:45:44 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1bdc48abd8aa9e4c989f02@news.optusnet.com.au:
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20041015#intel_cancels_p4_4ghz_chip
or
http://tinyurl.com/5pgfl
Friday October 15, 2004
Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip
Reuters reports that :
Intel Corp on Thursday canceled plans to introduce its highest-speed
desktop computer chip, ending for now a 25-year run that has seen the
speeds of Intel's microprocessors increase by more than 750 times ....
cranking up the speed of its Pentium 4 chips to four gigahertz, or
billions of cycles per second, has been an elusive goal for Intel.
When the latest rendition of the Pentium 4 was introduced in February,
Intel said it would reach the 4 gigahertz speed by the end of the
year.
... in July, citing concerns about having enough supply to meet
customer demand, Intel delayed plans for four gigahertz until the end
of March 2005. Thursday's announcement puts an end to the goal
entirely, at least for the current generation of processors. The
unexpected move also adds to a string of product changes,
cancellations and recalls that has roiled the world's largest chip
maker this year ...
- "Peak Chip", anyone? Is this *it* - *gasp* - the End of Moore's Law?
They've started talking about putting more computing cores per chip
instead. 4Ghz isn't even close to the theoretical limit on internal
"clock speed" but they were having trouble with heat extraction.
Heat is #1, length of signal paths is another issue. The denser the
chip, the shorter the delay between gates, but the heat problem
increases. Can we make a gate smaller than an atom?
drift
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip |
21 Oct 2004 07:48:45 PM |
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:45:44 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1bdc48abd8aa9e4c989f02@news.optusnet.com.au:
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20041015#intel_cancels_p4_4ghz_chip
or
http://tinyurl.com/5pgfl
Friday October 15, 2004
Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip
Reuters reports that :
Intel Corp on Thursday canceled plans to introduce its highest-speed
desktop computer chip, ending for now a 25-year run that has seen the
speeds of Intel's microprocessors increase by more than 750 times ....
cranking up the speed of its Pentium 4 chips to four gigahertz, or
billions of cycles per second, has been an elusive goal for Intel.
When the latest rendition of the Pentium 4 was introduced in February,
Intel said it would reach the 4 gigahertz speed by the end of the
year.
... in July, citing concerns about having enough supply to meet
customer demand, Intel delayed plans for four gigahertz until the end
of March 2005. Thursday's announcement puts an end to the goal
entirely, at least for the current generation of processors. The
unexpected move also adds to a string of product changes,
cancellations and recalls that has roiled the world's largest chip
maker this year ...
- "Peak Chip", anyone? Is this *it* - *gasp* - the End of Moore's Law?
They've started talking about putting more computing cores per chip
instead. 4Ghz isn't even close to the theoretical limit on internal
"clock speed" but they were having trouble with heat extraction.
Those manufactured diamonds may hold the key to solving that problem.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: OT - Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip |
22 Oct 2004 05:25:07 PM |
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:48:45 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 00:45:44 GMT, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>
wrote:
Meteorite Debris <abuse@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1bdc48abd8aa9e4c989f02@news.optusnet.com.au:
http://www.jroller.com/page/lowem/20041015#intel_cancels_p4_4ghz_chip
or
http://tinyurl.com/5pgfl
Friday October 15, 2004
Intel cancels P4-4GHz chip
Reuters reports that :
Intel Corp on Thursday canceled plans to introduce its highest-speed
desktop computer chip, ending for now a 25-year run that has seen the
speeds of Intel's microprocessors increase by more than 750 times ....
cranking up the speed of its Pentium 4 chips to four gigahertz, or
billions of cycles per second, has been an elusive goal for Intel.
When the latest rendition of the Pentium 4 was introduced in February,
Intel said it would reach the 4 gigahertz speed by the end of the
year.
... in July, citing concerns about having enough supply to meet
customer demand, Intel delayed plans for four gigahertz until the end
of March 2005. Thursday's announcement puts an end to the goal
entirely, at least for the current generation of processors. The
unexpected move also adds to a string of product changes,
cancellations and recalls that has roiled the world's largest chip
maker this year ...
- "Peak Chip", anyone? Is this *it* - *gasp* - the End of Moore's Law?
They've started talking about putting more computing cores per chip
instead. 4Ghz isn't even close to the theoretical limit on internal
"clock speed" but they were having trouble with heat extraction.
Those manufactured diamonds may hold the key to solving that problem.
I heard a few years ago that Bell Labs was messing with the idea of
using light and crystals to overcome heat issues, so I googled, lookit
what I found, and see what you think: (Paragraphs 4 and 5)
http://cellar.org/archive/index.php/t-165.html
Warning: a long post- over 110 lines:
The standard atomic model is protons, neutrons, and electrons. But
Bohr's old model does not explain a phenomena that even Einstein had
difficulty appreciating. Quantum Mechanics simply violates principals
we use to view the world. For example, in our world, if you stand a
card on edge and let it drop, then the card appears face up or face
down. But in quantum mechanics, the card appears both face up and face
down. Clearly you have a problem with this as physists did. Their
solution was to stick with the quantum model until something better
appeared. Problem was the more they stuck with their model, the more
accurate that the quantum model became.
If an electron is injected into low temperature helium, the waveform
of the electron appears as a sphere - the lowest level electron shell.
We create light by exciting that electron into higher level shells.
When the electron drops back down, it emits a photon - light. If that
Helium electron is excited by absorbing a photon, then it moves to a
higher shell which is an hourglass shape. But if Helium temperature is
low enough and pressure high enough, then the electron hourglass shell
separates into two separate spheres where the electron is in each
sphere 50% of the time. However, if the scientist attempts to
determine which sphere contains the electron, then the electron
disappears from the other sphere. Quantum physics.
Even more intriguing is that gas electrical conductity increases when
the electrons are in those two different spheres. IOW helium in the
right temperature and pressure can be turned electically conductive
(maybe superconductive) simply by applying light? This mystery is
quantum mechanics. We don't know why superconductivity exists nor even
why certain crystals conduct heat or are transparent to certain light
frequencies. We are guessing because we don't understand yet what
occurs inside the atom. That would be sub-atomic research.
Some recent mysteries were certain metallics that become
superconductors at higher temperatures - liquid nitrogen or liquid
carbon dioxide. Products based upon super conductive wire are
currently sold. Not understanding the theory, we instead wildly test
materials everywhere for superconductivity. Recently, Bell Labs found
organic polymers - not metals - that were superconductive. Why? If we
knew how superconductivity works, then we could quickly identify or
create higher temperature superconductive materials.
Superconductivity is not the only interest. Organic materials, such as
carbon based materials, should be capable of transistor and LED
functions. Bell Labs again managed to create an organic transistor by
reducing impurities in alpha-sexithiophene. If I remember, this is a
small carbon chain. LED emission in a transistor involves holes and
electrons meeting in a central location. More photons are emitted than
reabsorbed making possible circuits that can be both transistorized
and laser transmitters. Are we discussing optical computers? But again
this is the sub-atomic operation of materials.
Recently a Rubidium gas was setup whereby a second light into the gas
would switch the Rhodium gas on and off as a light switch. IOW they
created a light transistor, by simply changing the 'spin' of Rhodium
atoms - another concept in quantum mechanics.
A quantum problem involves the thickness of insulated gate transistors
currently numbering millions in CPUs. A section of silicon is switched
off and on by applying a charge on the other side of that thin glass -
silicon dioxide. It is this ability of silicon to form SiO2 - an
insulator - that continues to make silicon a superior IC material than
Gallium Arsinide, Silicon Carbide, Galium Nitrate, or even carbon
based materials (ie. diamonds). Although these other materials have
higher dielectric constants, silicon still dominates.
However a quantum effect called tunneling now threatens Moores law -
the accurate prediction for those galloping performance increases in
computers. As this Silicon dioxide layer thins to three atoms thick, a
transistor's insulated gates no longer remain good insulators. The
electrons tunnel through the glass insulator. A quantum effect is not
understood and is key to understanding future advances in
semiconductor electronics.
Diamonds and sapphire structures should make superior ICs because of
their great abilities to conduct heat, to remain undistorted in
temperature extremes, and as a superior insulator (higher dielectric
constants). However we don't understand the subatomic principals in
these materials that would accelerate the development of these new
technologies.
Hydrogen, the fundamental tool of fuel cells is manufactured or
purified by platinium crystals. The hydrogen electron is separated
from its one proton, one neutron nucleus. This now smaller nucleus is
pushed through the platinium crystal where it is electrically
recombined with its electron on the other side. Fuel cell fuel has
been created. Other material that perform the same task are polymer
membranes. A hydrogen's electron is removed to drive electrical
appliances, while the nucleus passes through a polymer membrane. As
both recombine with oxygen, a waste product (water) is created. A fuel
cell creates electricity.
Again we are talking clean energy generation and energy storage using
principals based upon sub-atomic and quantum physics.
IOW quantum physics is fundamental to continuing economic growth.
Quantum based innovaton in electro-optical communication as well as in
other sciences mostly due to breakthroughs in basic science. Most
medical breakthroughs come from basic science in other industries. A
responsible country would then appreciate the need for investing in
basic research. One early effort to concentrate in basic research led
to the atomic bomb (that ended WWII followed by nuclear energy and
other scientific discoveries including advance dating techniques
(anthropoloy, environmental sciences, medicine, geneology, etc). Those
dating techniques demonstrated greenhouse effect on earth over the
past million years on earth.
About ten years ago, the Big Hole in TX was to build the super
collider which smashes particles together to identify the sub-atomic
building block components. Currently is a race to discover the Higg
Bosum and to complete an inventory of these particles. Since a myopic
US congress can only appreicate big hype science, then instead we
removed research money to build Reagan's rediculous Space Station
Freedom. The resulting ISS was only to cost $8billion, now estimated
somewhere around $70 billion AND still has no scientific purpose.
In an ad hoc and very informative meeting with a NASA engineer, the
only way in NASA to get a research project approved to put it on ISS.
That space station is in desperate need of a purpose.
In the meantime, any scientist worth his while left the US for Cern in
Europe where sub-atomic and quantum mechanic research is now
headquartered. Have they provided humanity with anything productive?
The world wide web is an obvious creation.
Presently Cern is down for upgrading. In the meantime, the HQ for this
research is Fermilab outside Chicago - after which the upgraded Cern
returns on-line 7 times more powerful. Researchers will again attempt
to get US government money into a research tool to address so many of
our future innovations.
Currently Cern smashes protons and anti-protons together in what is
called the Large Hadron Collider. Protons are chosen because they take
less energy to accelerate in large circle. The resulting smashed
protons result in free quarks that hold protons and neutrons together.
Examination of the collision results in a plethora of fundamental (and
typicially unstable) sub-atomic particles.
But maybe we are smashing the wrong particles? Electrons and
anti-electrons themselves are sub-atomic particles as well as part of
Bohr's old standard model. Maybe we should be smashing electrons? That
requires more energy. In fact energy loses increase exponentially when
using rings to accelerate electrons. The Stanford Linear Accelerator,
Japan's KEK, and Germany's DESY are linear accelerators. However these
units have been in existance for some time. More power is required.
And so America will again face an oppurtunity to share the world
leadership in quantum study with Cern IF we spend what looks like $5
to $8billion on a new linear super collider. Not much money when you
consider the $1+billion per plane that Reagan spent on a B-1 bomber
that could never be used in combat and that could be downed by a
single bird hit on the fuselage (all hydralic lines grouped together).
Can George Jr appreciate what made America great. Currently he quashed
a long worked out need for arsinic standards in western drinking water
(without any science advisors). The he quashed any greenhouse gas
solutions in some grossly unscientific belief that we have an energy
shortage. IOW will George Jr put America back into recession next
decade by quashing necessary research America requires to grow? So far
he has done just that. So far the man has demonstrated no scientific
intelligence. Only recently he may have learned that ozone depletion
and global warming are not the same thing. Do you think he can
appreciate anything written above - or did he stop reading after the
third paragraph.
BTW, that is exactly what George Jr says he does. He rarely reads any
briefing papers beyond the first page.
[Edited by tw on 04-05-2001 at 02:09 AM]
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Oct 2004 04:52:22 PM |
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On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 18:25:07 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:48:45 -0700, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
They've started talking about putting more computing cores per chip
instead. 4Ghz isn't even close to the theoretical limit on internal
"clock speed" but they were having trouble with heat extraction.
Those manufactured diamonds may hold the key to solving that problem.
I heard a few years ago that Bell Labs was messing with the idea of
using light and crystals to overcome heat issues, so I googled, lookit
what I found, and see what you think: (Paragraphs 4 and 5)
http://cellar.org/archive/index.php/t-165.html
Warning: a long post- over 110 lines:
The standard atomic model is protons, neutrons, and electrons. But
Bohr's old model does not explain a phenomena that even Einstein had
difficulty appreciating. Quantum Mechanics simply violates principals
we use to view the world. For example, in our world, if you stand a
card on edge and let it drop, then the card appears face up or face
down. But in quantum mechanics, the card appears both face up and face
down. Clearly you have a problem with this as physists did. Their
solution was to stick with the quantum model until something better
appeared. Problem was the more they stuck with their model, the more
accurate that the quantum model became.
Very interesting article. Thank you.
[]
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
And Duty Imp and Rapscallion
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