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"Elroy Willis" |
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22 Apr 2004 06:34:23 PM |
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OT - More Linux Questions |
I posted the below over on a redhat newsgroup, and decided to
post it here as well, to possibly get more input...
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I'm finally up and running smoothly on Redhat 9, and even have
internet access through a proxy running on my Windows box for
now. That's my only option right now, so no evil smirks...
My next project to tackle is getting my Linux box hooked up directly
to the internet, instead of having to go through a Windows proxy,
so I'm shopping for DSL modems right now and doing some reading
up about all the different kinds that are out there.
Some of the latest DSL modems offer PPPoE built into them,
so apparently they don't need any additional software drivers to
get connected to the internet provider. It looks like those types
have a web interface and you can even telnet to some of them to
setup the modem.
How exactly do you connect to these modems directly? Do they
have some hardcoded IP address that you just telnet to or point a
web browser to? How exactly does it work?
It looks to me like I should have no problem getting one of these
to work with Linux if I can telnet to the modem itself to perform
the network login or some configuration. I wonder exactly what's
going on right now when I reboot my Windows box and the DSL modem
lights are flashing on and off as it gets synced up. I still have to
launch a login applet to get logged on once I get a green light,
and I wonder how exactly it would work with Linux? Once I get
a green light, I just telnet or http to it to perform the same network
login I did with the Windows DSL startup app?
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
23 Apr 2004 05:56:08 AM |
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"Elroy Willis" <elo@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:jclg80pk7p35s27n1ip6ltcegfthb3vd00@4ax.com...
I posted the below over on a redhat newsgroup, and decided to
post it here as well, to possibly get more input...
.....
I'm finally up and running smoothly on Redhat 9, and even have
internet access through a proxy running on my Windows box for
now. That's my only option right now, so no evil smirks...
My next project to tackle is getting my Linux box hooked up directly
to the internet, instead of having to go through a Windows proxy,
so I'm shopping for DSL modems right now and doing some reading
up about all the different kinds that are out there.
Some of the latest DSL modems offer PPPoE built into them,
so apparently they don't need any additional software drivers to
get connected to the internet provider. It looks like those types
have a web interface and you can even telnet to some of them to
setup the modem.
How exactly do you connect to these modems directly? Do they
have some hardcoded IP address that you just telnet to or point a
web browser to? How exactly does it work?
It looks to me like I should have no problem getting one of these
to work with Linux if I can telnet to the modem itself to perform
the network login or some configuration. I wonder exactly what's
going on right now when I reboot my Windows box and the DSL modem
lights are flashing on and off as it gets synced up. I still have to
launch a login applet to get logged on once I get a green light,
and I wonder how exactly it would work with Linux? Once I get
a green light, I just telnet or http to it to perform the same network
login I did with the Windows DSL startup app?
First off, I would avoid PPPtoE if you have the option (this may be up to
your service provider). PPPtoE will not maintain a continuous connection
the net when not in use. You may experience delays, therefore as it
negotiates a new DHCP assignment from your ISP. That said, most modems (DSL
or Cable) will provide a local net address to your PC (192.168.0.xxx) and
provide DHCP to assign internal addresses. I would look for a modem whose
firmware provides an HTTP interface (this is very common) for configuration.
Once you hook up your PC to it via an ethernet NIC, the modem will assign
you an address on that internal net. Then it is usually just a simple
matter of opening a web browser to http://192.168.0.1 and following the
instructions. I would suggest looking out on E-Bay for a good deal. My
preferred brand for most net hardware is Linksys, but you can find most
anything out there.
Hope this helps. Enjoy!
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| User: "SMChristenson" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
23 Apr 2004 08:34:27 PM |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:56:08 +0000, Fester wrote:
matter of opening a web browser to http://192.168.0.1 and following the
instructions. I would suggest looking out on E-Bay for a good deal. My
preferred brand for most net hardware is Linksys, but you can find most
anything out there.
Linksys modem or router? I'm in one of those "your performance may vary"
moods about Linksys routers at the moment. My BEFSR41 was fine. A new
BEFSX41 has been a piece of crap (and its little replacement too). Folks
at comp.security.firewalls are basically saying to try a second
replacement, etc. until I get to one that works. I'd upgrade the firmware
except they pulled the latest release that fixed about 20 things
after a week because it had too many new bugs of its own. So I'm back
down to whatever is cheaper at the store that day with home networking.
Computers!!!!
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| User: "Fester" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
24 Apr 2004 01:51:27 PM |
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"SMChristenson" <smchris@visi.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.24.01.34.27.284831@visi.com...
On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 10:56:08 +0000, Fester wrote:
matter of opening a web browser to http://192.168.0.1 and following the
instructions. I would suggest looking out on E-Bay for a good deal. My
preferred brand for most net hardware is Linksys, but you can find most
anything out there.
Linksys modem or router? I'm in one of those "your performance may vary"
moods about Linksys routers at the moment. My BEFSR41 was fine. A new
BEFSX41 has been a piece of crap (and its little replacement too). Folks
at comp.security.firewalls are basically saying to try a second
replacement, etc. until I get to one that works. I'd upgrade the firmware
except they pulled the latest release that fixed about 20 things
after a week because it had too many new bugs of its own. So I'm back
down to whatever is cheaper at the store that day with home networking.
Computers!!!!
Can't live with 'em, can't get ***** form one either 8-(
I use a BEFSR41, and a Linksys switch. I also have to HPRO200 phone line
routers that I use as a pair of bridges, and 4-way switch for my home net.
To date I've had good luck with all my equip. I have a router I take with
my laptop when I'm on the road. It comes in handy when I want to share a
single ethernet line with others. I'm sorry to hear that the BEFSX41 has
given you trouble. To date, I hwven't had any trouble with any of my
equipment (knocks on wooden head).
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
23 Apr 2004 06:41:52 AM |
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:34:23 +0000, Elroy Willis wrote:
I posted the below over on a redhat newsgroup, and decided to post it here
as well, to possibly get more input...
.....
I'm finally up and running smoothly on Redhat 9, and even have internet
access through a proxy running on my Windows box for now. That's my only
option right now, so no evil smirks...
<self-righteous smirk>
My next project to tackle is getting my Linux box hooked up directly to
the internet, instead of having to go through a Windows proxy, so I'm
shopping for DSL modems right now and doing some reading up about all the
different kinds that are out there.
I don't have any experience with DSL. I have a computer running Linux,
with 2 NICs: one connects to the internal network (all 192.168.1.x
addresses), the other connects to the cable modem, which doesn't seem to
care what OS is on the other side of the NIC. IPtables masquerades the
local packets as they go on/off the Internet.
At home, I have to use a satellite modem. That will not work with Linux,
due to the fact that they use a proprietary data compression algorithm.
So, when I boot into Linux at home, I have to start up a virtual computer
running WinXP inside Linux to get Internet connectivity. A program called
VMware provides the virtual computer. Because the virtual machine is very
well behaved, I have fewer problems running Windows in that environment
than I do running it on a "real" computer.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "SMChristenson" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
23 Apr 2004 07:21:06 AM |
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Since I wanted an external modem with DSL, QWest sold me a Cisco 675. I
don't know that I had a lot of choice. Whatever. It's been working fine
for years so I'm not too concerned about brand squabbles. The Cisco came
with a mess of manuals, a CD and a serial cable. It has it's own cryptic,
little command language.
Actually, I sometimes connect to the Cisco via that cable from a Windows
95 laptop. That way, if I'm on the phone with QWest tech support, I don't
have to worry about the person having a breakdown. "You, you, mean you are
using linux telnet instead of Windows telnet? I, I'll, like, have to ask
someone if this will work!"
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| User: "Elroy Willis" |
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| Title: Re: OT - More Linux Questions |
23 Apr 2004 10:11:41 AM |
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SMChristenson <smchris@visi.com> wrote in alt.atheism
Since I wanted an external modem with DSL, QWest sold me a Cisco 675. I
don't know that I had a lot of choice. Whatever. It's been working fine
for years so I'm not too concerned about brand squabbles. The Cisco came
with a mess of manuals, a CD and a serial cable. It has it's own cryptic,
little command language.
Actually, I sometimes connect to the Cisco via that cable from a Windows
95 laptop. That way, if I'm on the phone with QWest tech support, I don't
have to worry about the person having a breakdown. "You, you, mean you are
using linux telnet instead of Windows telnet? I, I'll, like, have to ask
someone if this will work!"
I don't think I'll have any problem if I get one of the newer modems
that I can point a web browser to, or telnet to. I've seen some on
ebay that people who used to have SBC are selling because they
got rid of DSL or changed providers.
--
Elroy Willis
EAP Chief Editor and Newshound
http://web2.airmail.net/~elo/news
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