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20 Jan 2004 09:50:14 PM |
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OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8352779%255E29677,00.html
'Say no' lessons lead to more sex
By Misha Schubert
January 09, 2004
Urging teenagers to "just say no" to adolescent sex just doesn't work.
An evaluation of an "abstinence only" sex education program in the US
has found it failed in its primary objective: the number of children
having sex doubled in the year after the course.
But the study found the course helped increase conversations between
parents and their children about sex.
The comprehensive evaluation of Minnesota's $5million Education Now And
Babies Later program for junior high students - aged 12 to 14 - found
the rate of sexually active students leapt from 5.8per cent to 12.4per
cent after the seminars.
And those who said they were likely to have sex before high school
graduation also nearly doubled - from 9.5per cent to 17per cent.
Australian sex educators said the study reinforced the importance of
teaching children about safe sex, as well as the skills to resist
unwanted pressure to have sex.
Most Australian state schools teach safe-sex practices, but many
religious and independent schools advocate abstinence only, keeping
their students in the dark about how to protect themselves if they do
have sex.
Sexual Health and Family Planning Australia president Lewis Marshall
said it was irresponsible to limit students' education to abstinence.
"These things happen in life, so what you should do is make it as safe
as possible," he said.
"Parents and schools have a responsibility to make sure children are
informed about how to minimise the risk to themselves."
(c) 2004 The Australian
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
21 Jan 2004 05:34:41 PM |
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On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:50:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8352779%255E29677,00.html
'Say no' lessons lead to more sex
By Misha Schubert
January 09, 2004
Urging teenagers to "just say no" to adolescent sex just doesn't work.
An evaluation of an "abstinence only" sex education program in the US
has found it failed in its primary objective: the number of children
having sex doubled in the year after the course.
But the study found the course helped increase conversations between
parents and their children about sex.
The comprehensive evaluation of Minnesota's $5million Education Now And
Babies Later program for junior high students - aged 12 to 14 - found
the rate of sexually active students leapt from 5.8per cent to 12.4per
cent after the seminars.
And those who said they were likely to have sex before high school
graduation also nearly doubled - from 9.5per cent to 17per cent.
Australian sex educators said the study reinforced the importance of
teaching children about safe sex, as well as the skills to resist
unwanted pressure to have sex.
Most Australian state schools teach safe-sex practices, but many
religious and independent schools advocate abstinence only, keeping
their students in the dark about how to protect themselves if they do
have sex.
Sexual Health and Family Planning Australia president Lewis Marshall
said it was irresponsible to limit students' education to abstinence.
"These things happen in life, so what you should do is make it as safe
as possible," he said.
"Parents and schools have a responsibility to make sure children are
informed about how to minimise the risk to themselves."
(c) 2004 The Australian
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
Prohibition of anything humans desire always results in the lack of
control of it.
Look at alcohol prohibition. Didn't work, people died from badly
brewed booze, cops died from bullets, the Mafia became entrenched and
so did bribery. At least the USA was wise enough to repeal it, altho
we are still under the thumb of the wealth and corruption it created.
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
drift
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
23 Jan 2004 11:33:44 PM |
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On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:41 -0500, drift@lost.net, Message ID:
<3h2u0098iu16iflp23hh1vk1hi95oqlimm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:50:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8352779%255E29677,00.html
'Say no' lessons lead to more sex
By Misha Schubert
January 09, 2004
Urging teenagers to "just say no" to adolescent sex just doesn't work.
An evaluation of an "abstinence only" sex education program in the US
has found it failed in its primary objective: the number of children
having sex doubled in the year after the course.
(snip)
Sexual Health and Family Planning Australia president Lewis Marshall
said it was irresponsible to limit students' education to abstinence.
"These things happen in life, so what you should do is make it as safe
as possible," he said.
"Parents and schools have a responsibility to make sure children are
informed about how to minimise the risk to themselves."
(c) 2004 The Australian
Prohibition of anything humans desire always results in the lack of
control of it.
I know. Take a look at Bahrain which is the 'Las Vegas' of the Middle
East. There Muslims can do the things which would get them executed
back home.
Look at alcohol prohibition. Didn't work, people died from badly
brewed booze, cops died from bullets, the Mafia became entrenched and
so did bribery. At least the USA was wise enough to repeal it, altho
we are still under the thumb of the wealth and corruption it created.
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
No argument. I understand, people can thank the greed of William
Randolph Hearst for the induced "Reefer Madness" *****.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
24 Jan 2004 07:43:18 AM |
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stoney wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:41 -0500, drift@lost.net, Message ID:
<3h2u0098iu16iflp23hh1vk1hi95oqlimm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:50:14 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8352779%255E29677,00.html
'Say no' lessons lead to more sex
By Misha Schubert
January 09, 2004
Urging teenagers to "just say no" to adolescent sex just doesn't work.
An evaluation of an "abstinence only" sex education program in the US
has found it failed in its primary objective: the number of children
having sex doubled in the year after the course.
(snip)
Sexual Health and Family Planning Australia president Lewis Marshall
said it was irresponsible to limit students' education to abstinence.
"These things happen in life, so what you should do is make it as safe
as possible," he said.
"Parents and schools have a responsibility to make sure children are
informed about how to minimise the risk to themselves."
(c) 2004 The Australian
Prohibition of anything humans desire always results in the lack of
control of it.
I know. Take a look at Bahrain which is the 'Las Vegas' of the Middle
East. There Muslims can do the things which would get them executed
back home.
Look at alcohol prohibition. Didn't work, people died from badly
brewed booze, cops died from bullets, the Mafia became entrenched and
so did bribery. At least the USA was wise enough to repeal it, altho
we are still under the thumb of the wealth and corruption it created.
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
No argument. I understand, people can thank the greed of William
Randolph Hearst for the induced "Reefer Madness" *****.
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
24 Jan 2004 03:51:53 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:43:18 -0500, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>,
Message ID: <1014tiq4hitjs7d@news.supernews.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:41 -0500, drift@lost.net, Message ID:
<3h2u0098iu16iflp23hh1vk1hi95oqlimm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
(snip)
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
No argument. I understand, people can thank the greed of William
Randolph Hearst for the induced "Reefer Madness" *****.
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
24 Jan 2004 04:02:46 PM |
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Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've never heard of Dashiell Hammett? And here I thought you were an old fart
like me!
He's probably best known for writing a little something called The Maltese
Falcon. I hear they made a movie out of it once.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
24 Jan 2004 04:30:58 PM |
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Lord Calvert wrote:
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've never heard of Dashiell Hammett? And here I thought you were an old fart
like me!
He's probably best known for writing a little something called The Maltese
Falcon. I hear they made a movie out of it once.
Twice. The first version flopped bigtime.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
26 Jan 2004 09:13:09 PM |
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On 24 Jan 2004 22:02:46 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert),
Message ID: <20040124170246.18989.00000673@mb-m28.aol.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've never heard of Dashiell Hammett? And here I thought you were an old fart
like me!
Oh, I am.
He's probably best known for writing a little something called The Maltese
Falcon. I hear they made a movie out of it once.
Now that I've heard of and they did make a movie out of it with Humphrey
Bogart in a title role.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
27 Jan 2004 11:14:33 PM |
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:7olb10loaubhj5va3pv6r5jsi0uu2thcmc@4ax.com...
On 24 Jan 2004 22:02:46 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert),
Message ID: <20040124170246.18989.00000673@mb-m28.aol.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain
Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've never heard of Dashiell Hammett? And here I thought you were an
old fart
like me!
Oh, I am.
He's probably best known for writing a little something called The
Maltese
Falcon. I hear they made a movie out of it once.
Now that I've heard of and they did make a movie out of it with Humphrey
Bogart in a title role.
Bogie played the falcon? Just kidding. He was a wonderfully
cheesy private eye who solved the mystery (except for where
the actual falcon was) with no help at all from Mary Astor,
Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Great movie.
Hammett also wrote "The Thin Man" which became one of
my favorite old movie series. I even remember watching the
old "Thin Man" tv series with Peter Lawford when I was a child.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
27 Jan 2004 11:59:11 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:zOWdnUoviJGq2IrdRVn-vw@comcast.com...
Hammett also wrote "The Thin Man" which became one of
my favorite old movie series. I even remember watching the
old "Thin Man" tv series with Peter Lawford when I was a child.
But "The Thin Man" was the name of one of the victims and did not refer to
Nick Charles.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
29 Jan 2004 03:28:45 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 00:14:33 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net>, Message ID:
<zOWdnUoviJGq2IrdRVn-vw@comcast.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:7olb10loaubhj5va3pv6r5jsi0uu2thcmc@4ax.com...
On 24 Jan 2004 22:02:46 GMT, forlornh@aol.complex (Lord Calvert),
Message ID: <20040124170246.18989.00000673@mb-m28.aol.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain
Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've never heard of Dashiell Hammett? And here I thought you were an
old fart
like me!
Oh, I am.
He's probably best known for writing a little something called The
Maltese
Falcon. I hear they made a movie out of it once.
Now that I've heard of and they did make a movie out of it with Humphrey
Bogart in a title role.
Bogie played the falcon? Just kidding. He was a wonderfully
cheesy private eye who solved the mystery (except for where
the actual falcon was) with no help at all from Mary Astor,
Sidney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre. Great movie.
I don't remember much about the flick.
Hammett also wrote "The Thin Man" which became one of
my favorite old movie series. I even remember watching the
old "Thin Man" tv series with Peter Lawford when I was a child.
Interesting.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
24 Jan 2004 04:30:07 PM |
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stoney wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:43:18 -0500, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>,
Message ID: <1014tiq4hitjs7d@news.supernews.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:41 -0500, drift@lost.net, Message ID:
<3h2u0098iu16iflp23hh1vk1hi95oqlimm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
(snip)
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
No argument. I understand, people can thank the greed of William
Randolph Hearst for the induced "Reefer Madness" *****.
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've probably heard of his "The Maltese Falcon" or "The Thin Man".
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: 'Say no' lessons lead to more sex |
26 Jan 2004 09:13:47 PM |
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On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:30:07 -0500, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>,
Message ID: <1015sednm6oa763@news.supernews.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 08:43:18 -0500, Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com>,
Message ID: <1014tiq4hitjs7d@news.supernews.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
stoney wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 18:34:41 -0500, drift@lost.net, Message ID:
<3h2u0098iu16iflp23hh1vk1hi95oqlimm@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
(snip)
Same with drug prohibition. The prison industry benefits and cops get
all kinds of new toys, and still get killed. And guess what? Far more
blacks and other minorities are being jailed and used for slave labor
than whites because of drugs that are safer than alcohol and tobacco.
No argument. I understand, people can thank the greed of William
Randolph Hearst for the induced "Reefer Madness" *****.
Dashiell Hammet makes note of Hearst's dope hysteria in "The Dain Curse".
First I've heard of either the author or the book.
You've probably heard of his "The Maltese Falcon" or "The Thin Man".
The former, yes. The latter....I'm not sure.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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