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OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq’s ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused “substantial damage” to one of the world’s
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday’s Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum’s Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city’s Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
“This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain,” Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country’s past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as “regrettable.”
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
“The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised,” the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain’s all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
“Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
“These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it’s actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world.”
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
“An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins.”
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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16 Jan 2005 02:56:48 AM |
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In article <h7liu05dc4ce1sjrks2a64go0l0dj5ef00@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq’s ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused “substantial damage” to one of the world’s
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday’s Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum’s Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city’s Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
“This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain,” Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country’s past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as “regrettable.”
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
“The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised,” the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain’s all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
“Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
“These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it’s actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world.”
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
“An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins.”
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
Bush's only idea of antiquity is aged bottle of bourbon.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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16 Jan 2005 08:57:03 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:56:48 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Bush's only idea of antiquity is aged bottle of bourbon.
I doubt he'd appreciate the difference between a fine old bourbon and
a $3 bottle of "Scotch".
--
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is
a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility
corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of
nature and of our own being."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949, from article by
Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "johac" |
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17 Jan 2005 12:26:11 AM |
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In article <taamu01k12tue4u5gg186ptmedscefiho6@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:56:48 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Bush's only idea of antiquity is aged bottle of bourbon.
I doubt he'd appreciate the difference between a fine old bourbon and
a $3 bottle of "Scotch".
In his boozer days, he's probably drink hair tonic if he could get his
hands on it and favorably compare it to Glenfiddich.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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17 Jan 2005 02:55:21 PM |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 22:26:11 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
In article <taamu01k12tue4u5gg186ptmedscefiho6@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 00:56:48 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:
Bush's only idea of antiquity is aged bottle of bourbon.
I doubt he'd appreciate the difference between a fine old bourbon and
a $3 bottle of "Scotch".
In his boozer days, he's probably drink hair tonic if he could get his
hands on it and favorably compare it to Glenfiddich.
Well ... I prefer stuff a few steps up from Glenfiddich. But one
tends to drink what one has access to. :) (Can't think of the name of
the Scotch I used to drink. It's been a couple of years since
"alcohol" and "suicide" became synonyms for me.)
--
"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus
was not born of a virgin."
Cardinal Bellarmine,[1615, during the trial of Galileo]
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "" |
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16 Jan 2005 03:29:10 PM |
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:40:10 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq’s ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused “substantial damage” to one of the world’s
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday’s Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum’s Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city’s Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
“This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain,” Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country’s past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as “regrettable.”
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
“The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised,” the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain’s all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
“Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
“These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it’s actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world.”
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
“An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins.”
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone else)
gets stabbed in the back?
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult, but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
drift
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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16 Jan 2005 04:07:25 PM |
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wrote in news:ogmlu05512sv5q9u3ed65suljvcfotpube@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:40:10 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq’s ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused “substantial damage” to one of the world’s
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday’s Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum’s Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city’s Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
“This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain,” Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country’s past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as “regrettable.”
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
“The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised,” the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain’s all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
“Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
“These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it’s actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world.”
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
“An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins.”
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult, but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for me!"
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "XeNO" |
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16 Jan 2005 05:00:12 PM |
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"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0AE3658C85fstone69@205.188.138.161...
drift@lost.net wrote in news:ogmlu05512sv5q9u3ed65suljvcfotpube@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:40:10 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult, but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it. So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing it I
can agree...
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal, but the
opposite is true.
--
"For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law
of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret
that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected
with this. "--Albert Einstein
XeNO
Order of the 8th dIgIt
aa# 1901
In order to email me privately, you must remove god from my email address,
and follow the links to get past my spam sheild.
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Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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16 Jan 2005 06:08:04 PM |
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"XeNO" <xeno6696@god.cox.net> wrote in
news:HlCGd.8389$sF5.1283@okepread06:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0AE3658C85fstone69@205.188.138.161...
drift@lost.net wrote in
news:ogmlu05512sv5q9u3ed65suljvcfotpube@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:40:10 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the
world's most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum
report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders
of the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill
sand bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East
department, invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts,
also said he had found cracks and gaps made by people who had
apparently tried to gouge out the decorated bricks forming the
famous dragons of the city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003,
just after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over
to a Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in
the report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry
on Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will therefore
be seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are
doing damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the
cultural heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How
do we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who
think that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and
everyone else) gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree with
your politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and
again while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the
*****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political
opponent without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult,
but, no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't democrat
like me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration.
Much of that fear seems to me to be self-induced. They spent four years
making Bush into a boogeyman and now they're scared of their own
fantasies. You've been bitten by your own FUD.
.. and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do
anything about it. So ranting is all some of us have heart for, even
I'm not the one doing it I can agree...
Maybe so, but ranting about anti-Bush fairy tales isn't going to impress
a whole lot of voters.
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal,
but the opposite is true.
Politics, like most other trends, goes in cycles.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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17 Jan 2005 08:26:03 AM |
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XeNO wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0AE3658C85fstone69@205.188.138.161...
drift@lost.net wrote in
news:ogmlu05512sv5q9u3ed65suljvcfotpube@4ax.com:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 09:40:10 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of
4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as
a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the
world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report
said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in
the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven
wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East
department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said
he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried
to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003,
just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to
a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the
Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in
the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture
ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early
civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one
of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with
his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in
the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes
chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will therefore
be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are
doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the
cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying
the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How
do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who
think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone
else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree with
your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and
again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to
a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political
opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult,
but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't
democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it.
So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing
it I
can agree...
The American government has been slipping towards totaltarianism since
JFK's death (maybe even earlier than that). Democracy can't last
forever because the only people who get put in charge are those who
actively seek power. Those are the exact types of people you *don't*
want in charge.
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal,
but the
opposite is true.
Not necessarily. Many liberals are for totaltarianism much like the
Bush Administration is. It seems to me that as time goes on, that more
and more Americans are willing to give up freedom for government
"security" (which isn't secure). Americans have far more to fear of
their own government (which kills far more American citizens than any
foreign entity) than "terrorism" or "crime."
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| User: "stoney" |
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18 Jan 2005 10:45:55 PM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 06:26:03 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
XeNO wrote:
"Fred Stone" <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote in message
news:Xns95E0AE3658C85fstone69@205.188.138.161...
drift@lost.net wrote in
news:ogmlu05512sv5q9u3ed65suljvcfotpube@4ax.com:
[]
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't
democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it.
So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing
it I
can agree...
The American government has been slipping towards totaltarianism since
JFK's death (maybe even earlier than that). Democracy can't last
forever because the only people who get put in charge are those who
actively seek power. Those are the exact types of people you *don't*
want in charge.
Exactly.
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal,
but the
opposite is true.
Not necessarily. Many liberals are for totaltarianism much like the
Bush Administration is. It seems to me that as time goes on, that more
and more Americans are willing to give up freedom for government
"security" (which isn't secure). Americans have far more to fear of
their own government (which kills far more American citizens than any
foreign entity) than "terrorism" or "crime."
Again, you score a 'bulls-eye.'
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
16 Jan 2005 06:03:14 PM |
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XeNo wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of 4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S. and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003, just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over to a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will therefore be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again? How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult, but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it. So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing it I
can agree...
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal, but the
opposite is true.
Fred's a lost cause, Xeno. He's an atheist who's still trying to pretend that
religious fundamentalists haven't taken over his party(ie: the Republican
Party) for their own ends. You may as well be talking to the wind.
*********************************************
"Don't look now, I'm just a friendly reminder!" Homsar from the HR website
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
16 Jan 2005 06:27:31 PM |
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Nick wrote:
XeNo wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of
4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as
a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the
world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report
said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S.
and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in
the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven
wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill
sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East
department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said
he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried
to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003,
just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over
to a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the
Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in
the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture
ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early
civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one
of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with
his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in
the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes
chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will
therefore be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are
doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the
cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying
the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again?
How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who
think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone
else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree
with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and
again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to
a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political
opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult,
but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for
me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't
democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it.
So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing
it I
can agree...
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal,
but the
opposite is true.
Fred's a lost cause, Xeno. He's an atheist who's still trying to
pretend that
religious fundamentalists haven't taken over his party(ie: the
Republican
Party) for their own ends. You may as well be talking to the wind.
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good thing.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
jwk
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| User: "Nick" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
16 Jan 2005 06:34:43 PM |
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jwk wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of
4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon as
a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the
world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum report
said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S.
and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements in
the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven
wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill
sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East
department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also said
he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently tried
to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April 2003,
just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it over
to a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the
Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said in
the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture
ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early
civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar, one
of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself with
his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base in
the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes
chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will
therefore be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces are
doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the
cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as saying
the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again?
How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who
think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and everyone
else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree
with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again and
again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the *****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except to
a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political
opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be difficult,
but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for
me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't
democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about it.
So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one doing
it I
can agree...
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more liberal,
but the
opposite is true.
Fred's a lost cause, Xeno. He's an atheist who's still trying to
pretend that
religious fundamentalists haven't taken over his party(ie: the
Republican
Party) for their own ends. You may as well be talking to the wind.
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good thing.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious fundamentalists gaining
power in the government and eroding key elements of our Constitution, such as
the separation of church and state, correct? If such is the case, the level of
cognitive disonance he emits must be *staggering*.
*********************************************
"Don't look now, I'm just a friendly reminder!" Homsar from the HR website
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| User: "Rump Ranger" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
17 Jan 2005 08:30:37 AM |
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Nick wrote:
jwk wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6829036/
U.S. reportedly damaged ancient Babylon
{pics on site}
Museum claims military
caused 'substantial damage'
U.S. Army soldiers tour through the rebuilt ruins of
4,000-year-old
Babylon, Iraq, on Oct. 20, 2004. {pic}
Updated: 11:22 a.m. ET Jan. 15, 2005
LONDON - U.S.-led forces, using Iraq's ancient city of Babylon
as
a
military base, have caused "substantial damage" to one of the
world's
most renowned archaeological treasures, a British Museum
report
said.
The report, quoted in Saturday's Guardian newspaper, said U.S.
and
Polish military vehicles had crushed 2,600-year-old pavements
in
the
city, a cradle of civilization and home to one of the seven
wonders of
the ancient world. Archaeological fragments were used to fill
sand
bags, it added.
John Curtis, keeper of the museum's Ancient and Near East
department,
invited to visit Babylon by Iraqi antiquities experts, also
said
he
had found cracks and gaps made by people who had apparently
tried
to
gouge out the decorated bricks forming the famous dragons of
the
city's Ishtar Gate.
U.S. military commanders set up a base in Babylon in April
2003,
just
after the invasion to topple Saddam Hussein, and handed it
over
to a
Polish-led force five months later.
"This is tantamount to establishing a military camp around the
Great
Pyramid in Egypt or around Stonehenge in Britain," Curtis said
in
the
report.
Iraqis to take back control
The camp will be formally handed over to the Iraqi culture
ministry on
Saturday.
Babylon was the capital of ancient Babylonia, an early
civilization
that existed from around 1,800 BC until 600 BC.
Most famous for the Hanging Gardens built by Nebuchadnezzar,
one
of
the seven wonders of the ancient world, large parts of it were
reconstructed by Saddam in an attempt to associate himself
with
his
country's past glories.
In the report, Curtis described the decision to set up a base
in
the
area as "regrettable."
Large areas of the site were covered in gravel, the report
said,
brought in from outside which was compacted and sometimes
chemically
treated to make helipads and car parks.
"The status of future information about these areas will
therefore be
seriously compromised," the report said.
Lord Redesdale, the head of Britain's all-party parliamentary
archaeological group, told the Guardian he was horrified.
"Outrage is hardly the word, this is just dreadful.
"These are world sites. Not only is what the American forces
are
doing
damaging the archaeology of Iraq, it's actually damaging the
cultural
heritage of the whole world."
The newspaper quoted Lieutenant Colonel Steven Boylan as
saying
the
significance of Babylon was not lost on the foreign troops.
"An archaeologist examined every construction initiative for
its
impact on historical ruins."
Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited
And about half the USA voted for this waste of skin. The
gullible
half.
The stupid half.
God Dammit, how can we prevent this ***** from happening again?
How do
we reach the superstitious, otherwise conscientious humans who
think
that these "leaders" will do them good, while they (and
everyone
else)
gets stabbed in the back?
First you've got to get over this idea that those who disagree
with your
politics are stupid. That's not the way to win voters.
Hey other half: they thank you and they will thank you again
and
again
while making you smile while they repeatedly ***** you in the
*****.
Just like the Taliban, except who'll save us from them?
But we know better. They're *not* just like the Taliban, except
to
a
simpleminded liberal who can't manage to describe any political
opponent
without such silly hyperbole.
Get with it!! C'mon, now! thinking for yourself may be
difficult,
but,
no pain no gain! Do it!
Ah, the Democrats' new campaign slogan: "Hey, stupid! Vote for
me!"
Well honestly fred many democrats (and supporters that aren't
democrat like
me) are shocked, appalled and fearful about another Bush
administration...
and especially myself I feel damn powerless to do anything about
it.
So
ranting is all some of us have heart for, even I'm not the one
doing
it I
can agree...
Supposedly as time goes on people are supposed to get more
liberal,
but the
opposite is true.
Fred's a lost cause, Xeno. He's an atheist who's still trying to
pretend that
religious fundamentalists haven't taken over his party(ie: the
Republican
Party) for their own ends. You may as well be talking to the
wind.
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining
power in the government and eroding key elements of our Constitution,
such as
the separation of church and state, correct? If such is the case,
the level of
cognitive disonance he emits must be *staggering*.
No less so than Bush talking about how he's for "small government" at
the RNC while blissfully ignoring how he's expanded it to levels which
would make the big government Clinton blush. That kind of cognitive
disonance is also seen on military forums where US military personel
are against getting rid of anti-desertion policies while simultaneously
supporting a President who was a deserter himself. Amazing what people
can do, ain't it?
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
16 Jan 2005 07:14:51 PM |
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mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up lies
about Republicans.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
If such is the case, the level of cognitive disonance
he emits must be *staggering*.
Not anywhere near the level that is emitted by the liberals around here.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
18 Jan 2005 09:06:31 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
See what I mean?
jwk
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18 Jan 2005 06:18:02 PM |
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jwk wrote:
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
See what I mean?
Once again, indeed. If the man can't see that religious fundamentalists have
taken over conservatism within this country, then he is either blind or a fool.
Even simplistic pop culture shows like Best Week Ever note how Bush and his
administration pander shamelessly to Christian evangelical groups. It is that
obvious.
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"Don't look now, I'm just a friendly reminder!" Homsar from the HR website
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18 Jan 2005 08:58:25 PM |
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mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050118191802.13716.00000049@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some
of the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
See what I mean?
Once again, indeed. If the man can't see that religious
fundamentalists have taken over conservatism within this country, then
he is either blind or a fool.
The fact that religious conservatives have a great deal of influence in
the Republican party doesn't justify all the excessive exaggerations
about "having taken over".
Even simplistic pop culture shows like Best Week Ever note how Bush
and his administration pander shamelessly to Christian evangelical
groups. It is that obvious.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
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17 Jan 2005 08:34:25 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
A centrist warhawk? That's a new one. If you're so "centrist", why
don't you go after Republicans who make up lies about Democrats? And
for such a warhawk, have you ever served in the military?
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
Doubt it. Even Republican mainstays like ***** Armey and Pat Buchanen
have gone to criticize Bush.
If such is the case, the level of cognitive disonance
he emits must be *staggering*.
Not anywhere near the level that is emitted by the liberals around
here.
So everyone that dislike Bush is a "liberal." So much for being a
"centrist."
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| User: "stoney" |
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18 Jan 2005 10:43:51 PM |
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On 17 Jan 2005 06:34:25 -0800, "Rump Ranger" <buttpirate@fadmail.com>
wrote:
Fred Stone wrote:
mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
A centrist warhawk? That's a new one. If you're so "centrist", why
don't you go after Republicans who make up lies about Democrats? And
for such a warhawk, have you ever served in the military?
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
Doubt it. Even Republican mainstays like ***** Armey and Pat Buchanen
have gone to criticize Bush.
If such is the case, the level of cognitive disonance
he emits must be *staggering*.
Not anywhere near the level that is emitted by the liberals around
here.
So everyone that dislike Bush is a "liberal." So much for being a
"centrist."
Fred's a brainless liar extraordinaire.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "Nick" |
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19 Jan 2005 12:11:29 AM |
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stoney wrote:
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
A centrist warhawk? That's a new one. If you're so "centrist", why
don't you go after Republicans who make up lies about Democrats? And
for such a warhawk, have you ever served in the military?
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
Doubt it. Even Republican mainstays like ***** Armey and Pat Buchanen
have gone to criticize Bush.
If such is the case, the level of cognitive disonance
he emits must be *staggering*.
Not anywhere near the level that is emitted by the liberals around
here.
So everyone that dislike Bush is a "liberal." So much for being a
"centrist."
Fred's a brainless liar extraordinaire.
I learned a while back that all Fred is good for is snarky one-liners. Olde
Dukie will probably back up *his* arguments with facts and cites before Mr.
Stone ever will.
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"Don't look now, I'm just a friendly reminder!" Homsar from the HR website
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| User: "stoney" |
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19 Jan 2005 06:12:51 PM |
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On 19 Jan 2005 06:11:29 GMT, mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote:
stoney wrote:
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
This just goes to show what mental gymnastics a Republican has to
go
through to justify the actions of his party's leaders.
I have often pointed out that I am not a Republican. I'm a centrist
warhawk who doesn't particularly like the way the Democrats make up
lies
about Republicans.
A centrist warhawk? That's a new one. If you're so "centrist", why
don't you go after Republicans who make up lies about Democrats? And
for such a warhawk, have you ever served in the military?
So he's an atheist who's perfectly happy with religious
fundamentalists gaining power in the government and eroding key
elements of our Constitution, such as the separation of church and
state, correct?
If I thought that religious fundies were doing *half* of what some of
the liberals around here claim, I would be among the complainers.
Doubt it. Even Republican mainstays like ***** Armey and Pat Buchanen
have gone to criticize Bush.
If such is the case, the level of cognitive disonance
he emits must be *staggering*.
Not anywhere near the level that is emitted by the liberals around
here.
So everyone that dislike Bush is a "liberal." So much for being a
"centrist."
Fred's a brainless liar extraordinaire.
I learned a while back that all Fred is good for is snarky one-liners. Olde
Dukie will probably back up *his* arguments with facts and cites before Mr.
Stone ever will.
You know, I can't disagree with your analysis.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
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| User: "jwk" |
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18 Jan 2005 10:03:04 AM |
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Fred Stone wrote:
mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and
the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
Hell Fred this was months ago and you post too much for a search to
work. I don't plan to re-read everything you've written just to find
it. But I have a good memory and I remember you defending the
Republicans for letting the fundies run their party.
(OK, I like to back up what I say, so I did try to find the statements
I referred to. I couldn't find that thread. All I could find was you
agreeing that the Republicans had to "danc[ing] with them as brung
ya".. The fundy religious nuts. You were defending the idea.)
jwk
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| User: "Fred Stone" |
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| Title: Re: OT: ***** that brainless ***** bush!!! |
18 Jan 2005 11:58:20 AM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1106064184.065095.286730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Fred Stone wrote:
mysteriox9000@aol.computron (Nick) wrote in
news:20050116193443.13759.00000047@mb-m23.aol.com:
jwk wrote:
<...>
Actually Fred freely admits that fundies have taken over his party
and the country. Completely in denial, he claims that it is a good
thing.
Go ahead and quote my exact words on that.
Hell Fred this was months ago and you post too much for a search to
work. I don't plan to re-read everything you've written just to find
it. But I have a good memory and I remember you defending the
Republicans for letting the fundies run their party.
(OK, I like to back up what I say, so I did try to find the statements
I referred to. I couldn't find that thread. All I could find was you
agreeing that the Republicans had to "danc[ing] with them as brung
ya".. The fundy religious nuts. You were defending the idea.)
Yes, I defended that idea. That is the principle of representative
government.
If you read some of the *really* far-right conservatives, they think
Bush is wussing out on them. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.ignoretheleft.com/b2/index.php
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Fred Stone
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