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"stoney" |
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12 Oct 2004 11:59:34 PM |
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OT: Caskets and other containers |
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Why do Americans tend to spend so much on a casket? Well, you might
want a grand display for a day or so. Some are even "more
comfortable"—with an innerspring mattress and adjustable head-rest.
More likely, however, low-cost caskets simply aren't on display. As
one reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times found out when the funeral
shopper she accompanied asked if there wasn't something less expensive
than the $2,000+ casket on display: "They led us to a hall on the way
to the boiler room." Another woman was taken to a basement full of
cobwebs. And another was subjected to the icy sneer: "Oh . . . you
want the welfare casket?"
If you're curious about the wholesale cost of caskets, be sure to
visit Fr. Henry Wasielewski's website.
Misleading product claims can prod you to spend more, too. So-called
"protective" caskets (caskets with a rubber gasket) are supposed to
seal, thereby "protecting" the body from "outside elements." This
costs. The rubber gasket used to construct a "sealer" casket costs the
industry $8. But that $8 gasket is likely to raise the cost of the
casket by $800 or more! And what happens to a body in a "sealed"
casket? Instead of the natural dehydration that occurs in most
climates, anaerobic bacteria take over and the body putrifies—as any
grave-digger can attest after an exhumation. (You might want to read
"Bones, Bugs, & Batesville" and one woman's fight against consumer
fraud.)
/end snippet
There are links to sites.
{digging}
http://www.casketxpress.com/listcasketsnew.phtml
http://www.funeraldepot.com/?source=GoogleCaskets&wcw=google
http://www.casketroyale.com/
Do not make an emotional loss a financial ruin (this is stated on
their web page)
Please accept our condolences if you have come to this site at a time
of sorrow and loss. If at any time you have a question, please call
one of our trained counselors at: 1-800-791-4169 .
WTF is an "Eterna-rest adjustable bedding system"?
It's not like the occupants going to roll over and need the covers to
reset themselves.
And its not like anyone's going to 'trade-in' the casket for a new one
in say ten yeras.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
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| User: "BLUERHYMER" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
13 Oct 2004 07:19:30 AM |
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Subject: OT: Caskets and other containers
From: stoney
Date: 10/13/2004 12:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <r0dpm0577bsb96nrtpnvfl6at7359i0i4k@4ax.com>
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Why do Americans tend to spend so much on a casket? Well, you might
want a grand display for a day or so. Some are even "more
comfortable"—with an innerspring mattress and adjustable head-rest.
More likely, however, low-cost caskets simply aren't on display. As
one reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times found out when the funeral
shopper she accompanied asked if there wasn't something less expensive
than the $2,000+ casket on display: "They led us to a hall on the way
to the boiler room." Another woman was taken to a basement full of
cobwebs. And another was subjected to the icy sneer: "Oh . . . you
want the welfare casket?"
If you're curious about the wholesale cost of caskets, be sure to
visit Fr. Henry Wasielewski's website.
Misleading product claims can prod you to spend more, too. So-called
"protective" caskets (caskets with a rubber gasket) are supposed to
seal, thereby "protecting" the body from "outside elements." This
costs. The rubber gasket used to construct a "sealer" casket costs the
industry $8. But that $8 gasket is likely to raise the cost of the
casket by $800 or more! And what happens to a body in a "sealed"
casket? Instead of the natural dehydration that occurs in most
climates, anaerobic bacteria take over and the body putrifies—as any
grave-digger can attest after an exhumation. (You might want to read
"Bones, Bugs, & Batesville" and one woman's fight against consumer
fraud.)
/end snippet
There are links to sites.
{digging}
http://www.casketxpress.com/listcasketsnew.phtml
http://www.funeraldepot.com/?source=GoogleCaskets&wcw=google
http://www.casketroyale.com/
Do not make an emotional loss a financial ruin (this is stated on
their web page)
Please accept our condolences if you have come to this site at a time
of sorrow and loss. If at any time you have a question, please call
one of our trained counselors at: 1-800-791-4169 .
WTF is an "Eterna-rest adjustable bedding system"?
It's not like the occupants going to roll over and need the covers to
reset themselves.
And its not like anyone's going to 'trade-in' the casket for a new one
in say ten yeras.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
===========================
Speaking of caskets:
Military Caskets are a tribute to the soldiers who served their country in
the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army or Coast Guard. Military Caskets are
for those who defended "Our Country" Honorably and Valiantly. These Veterans
Caskets are a fitting tribute to those who have served, fighting for our
country during peacetime and wartime.
Photos of Military Coffins
(Battlefield and Astronaut Fatalaties)
at Dover Air Force Base
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/
White House Discounts good only until Nov.2, 2004
Hurry while supplies last:
Reserve one or more.
Models available:
See:
http://casketgalleryfl.com/militarycaskets.htm
Contacting the White House [En Español]
Mailing Address
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461
TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121
E-Mail
President George W. Bush:
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.
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| User: "BLUERHYMER" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
13 Oct 2004 07:49:12 AM |
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Subject: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers
From: (BLUERHYMER)
Date: 10/13/2004 8:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20041013081930.07779.00001313@mb-m25.aol.com>
Subject: OT: Caskets and other containers
From: stoney
Date: 10/13/2004 12:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <r0dpm0577bsb96nrtpnvfl6at7359i0i4k@4ax.com>
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Why do Americans tend to spend so much on a casket? Well, you might
want a grand display for a day or so. Some are even "more
comfortable"—with an innerspring mattress and adjustable head-rest.
More likely, however, low-cost caskets simply aren't on display. As
one reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times found out when the funeral
shopper she accompanied asked if there wasn't something less expensive
than the $2,000+ casket on display: "They led us to a hall on the way
to the boiler room." Another woman was taken to a basement full of
cobwebs. And another was subjected to the icy sneer: "Oh . . . you
want the welfare casket?"
If you're curious about the wholesale cost of caskets, be sure to
visit Fr. Henry Wasielewski's website.
Misleading product claims can prod you to spend more, too. So-called
"protective" caskets (caskets with a rubber gasket) are supposed to
seal, thereby "protecting" the body from "outside elements." This
costs. The rubber gasket used to construct a "sealer" casket costs the
industry $8. But that $8 gasket is likely to raise the cost of the
casket by $800 or more! And what happens to a body in a "sealed"
casket? Instead of the natural dehydration that occurs in most
climates, anaerobic bacteria take over and the body putrifies—as any
grave-digger can attest after an exhumation. (You might want to read
"Bones, Bugs, & Batesville" and one woman's fight against consumer
fraud.)
/end snippet
There are links to sites.
{digging}
http://www.casketxpress.com/listcasketsnew.phtml
http://www.funeraldepot.com/?source=GoogleCaskets&wcw=google
http://www.casketroyale.com/
Do not make an emotional loss a financial ruin (this is stated on
their web page)
Please accept our condolences if you have come to this site at a time
of sorrow and loss. If at any time you have a question, please call
one of our trained counselors at: 1-800-791-4169 .
WTF is an "Eterna-rest adjustable bedding system"?
It's not like the occupants going to roll over and need the covers to
reset themselves.
And its not like anyone's going to 'trade-in' the casket for a new one
in say ten yeras.....
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
===========================
Speaking of caskets:
Military Caskets are a tribute to the soldiers who served their country in
the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army or Coast Guard. Military Caskets are
for those who defended "Our Country" Honorably and Valiantly. These Veterans
Caskets are a fitting tribute to those who have served, fighting for our
country during peacetime and wartime.
Photos of Military Coffins
(Battlefield and Astronaut Fatalaties)
at Dover Air Force Base
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/
White House Discounts good only until Nov.2, 2004
Hurry while supplies last:
Reserve one or more.
Models available:
See:
http://casketgalleryfl.com/militarycaskets.htm
Contacting the White House [En Español]
Mailing Address
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461
TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121
E-Mail
President George W. Bush:
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.
=======================
Military caskets have unfortunately been used for some awful purposes:
The metal flag draped caskets arriving at Dover with the remains of our fallen
heros may not all contain their honored bodies.
Caskets have been used for reasons other than returning our dead and may still
be.
During the war in Southesat Asia, many of the caskets were filled with
China-White heroin and were even attended to by special forces honor guards.
The killed in action (KIAs) slated for internment in the National cemetaries
would be stockpiled at Ton Son Nhut Air-Base outside Saigon. Some of these
caskets were full of China-White heroin with a special destination tag and an
honor guard would escort those special tags to an out-of-the-way airstrip where
they would disappear during the night.
It has been reported that pilots from Air America flew the heroin out of Asia
and the profits from its sale were used to finance CIA operations.
Anyone attempting to comprehend how billions of US dollars were used in
creating the agents and forces that launched the Sept. attack will better
understand it after reading the final chapter of The Politics of Heroin in
Southeast Asia by Alfred W. McCoy and Drugs, Oil, and the United States in
Afghanistan, Columbia, and Indonesia. by Peter Dale Scott.
The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of dishonesty and
dirty dealings from the Cold War until today. New chapters detail US
involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan and Pakistan before and after
the fall of the Taliban and how it has increased the global supply of illicit
drugs. bin Laden is not only an engineer, he is a narcotics dealer as was
another Bush favorite, Manuel Noriega.
Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan earn more than 12 billion in drug
trade every year.
The US government, with the aid of the CIA, has always had its hand in the
illegal drug trafficing in Asia, the Middle East, and South and Central
America, so all of those young Americans are not dying so far away from home
because a government wants to liberate anyone nor spread America type
democracy. It is often because someone in our government wants to liberate some
farmer from his poppy plants.
See: Britain and US Plan to Stop Heroin Trade by Buying Afghanistan Opium Crop
http://opiods.com/afghanistan/allies.html
US and Britain Accsed of Operating Heroin Trail
http://opiods.com/afghanistan/herointrail.html
General Musharraf - Bin Laden - The CIA and Drug Smuggling in Afghanistan
http://terrorism.reallybites.com/musharraf.htm
A bedtime prayer at the White House
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray my soul the Lord will keep.
And, if I should die before I wake
I pray my stash, He'll let me take.
Have a nice day
Bluerhymer
*******************
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
14 Oct 2004 05:07:55 PM |
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On 13 Oct 2004 12:49:12 GMT, (BLUERHYMER) wrote:
Subject: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers
From: (BLUERHYMER)
Date: 10/13/2004 8:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <20041013081930.07779.00001313@mb-m25.aol.com>
Subject: OT: Caskets and other containers
From: stoney
Date: 10/13/2004 12:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <r0dpm0577bsb96nrtpnvfl6at7359i0i4k@4ax.com>
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
[]
Speaking of caskets:
Military Caskets are a tribute to the soldiers who served their country in
the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, Army or Coast Guard. Military Caskets are
for those who defended "Our Country" Honorably and Valiantly. These Veterans
Caskets are a fitting tribute to those who have served, fighting for our
country during peacetime and wartime.
Photos of Military Coffins
(Battlefield and Astronaut Fatalaties)
at Dover Air Force Base
http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/
White House Discounts good only until Nov.2, 2004
Hurry while supplies last:
Reserve one or more.
Models available:
See:
http://casketgalleryfl.com/militarycaskets.htm
Contacting the White House [En Espańol]
Mailing Address
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington, DC 20500
Phone Numbers
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
FAX: 202-456-2461
TTY/TDD
Comments: 202-456-6213
Visitors Office: 202-456-2121
E-Mail
President George W. Bush:
Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.
=======================
Military caskets have unfortunately been used for some awful purposes:
The metal flag draped caskets arriving at Dover with the remains of our fallen
heros may not all contain their honored bodies.
Caskets have been used for reasons other than returning our dead and may still
be.
During the war in Southesat Asia, many of the caskets were filled with
China-White heroin and were even attended to by special forces honor guards.
The killed in action (KIAs) slated for internment in the National cemetaries
would be stockpiled at Ton Son Nhut Air-Base outside Saigon. Some of these
caskets were full of China-White heroin with a special destination tag and an
honor guard would escort those special tags to an out-of-the-way airstrip where
they would disappear during the night.
It has been reported that pilots from Air America flew the heroin out of Asia
and the profits from its sale were used to finance CIA operations.
Anyone attempting to comprehend how billions of US dollars were used in
creating the agents and forces that launched the Sept. attack will better
understand it after reading the final chapter of The Politics of Heroin in
Southeast Asia by Alfred W. McCoy and Drugs, Oil, and the United States in
Afghanistan, Columbia, and Indonesia. by Peter Dale Scott.
The Politics of Heroin includes meticulous documentation of dishonesty and
dirty dealings from the Cold War until today. New chapters detail US
involvement in the narcotics trade in Afghanistan and Pakistan before and after
the fall of the Taliban and how it has increased the global supply of illicit
drugs. bin Laden is not only an engineer, he is a narcotics dealer as was
another Bush favorite, Manuel Noriega.
Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan earn more than 12 billion in drug
trade every year.
The US government, with the aid of the CIA, has always had its hand in the
illegal drug trafficing in Asia, the Middle East, and South and Central
America, so all of those young Americans are not dying so far away from home
because a government wants to liberate anyone nor spread America type
democracy. It is often because someone in our government wants to liberate some
farmer from his poppy plants.
See: Britain and US Plan to Stop Heroin Trade by Buying Afghanistan Opium Crop
http://opiods.com/afghanistan/allies.html
US and Britain Accsed of Operating Heroin Trail
http://opiods.com/afghanistan/herointrail.html
General Musharraf - Bin Laden - The CIA and Drug Smuggling in Afghanistan
http://terrorism.reallybites.com/musharraf.htm
A bedtime prayer at the White House
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray my soul the Lord will keep.
And, if I should die before I wake
I pray my stash, He'll let me take.
Have a nice day
Bluerhymer
*******************
That will be
when BushCo's
out of the way
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Vote for Bush. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?
No matter the candidates the superstition industry wins.
'Jesus' is a sock-puppet Christians utilize to add 'authority' to
whatever action they intend on taking. -Stoney
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| User: "Mekkala" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
13 Oct 2004 09:30:14 AM |
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On Tue 12 Oct 2004 11:59:34p, stoney <stoney@the.net> kicked back with a
beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint, then
fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Why do Americans tend to spend so much on a casket? Well, you might
want a grand display for a day or so. Some are even "more
comfortable"—with an innerspring mattress and adjustable head-rest.
More likely, however, low-cost caskets simply aren't on display. As
one reporter for the Chicago Sun-Times found out when the funeral
shopper she accompanied asked if there wasn't something less expensive
than the $2,000+ casket on display: "They led us to a hall on the way
to the boiler room." Another woman was taken to a basement full of
cobwebs. And another was subjected to the icy sneer: "Oh . . . you
want the welfare casket?"
If you're curious about the wholesale cost of caskets, be sure to
visit Fr. Henry Wasielewski's website.
Misleading product claims can prod you to spend more, too. So-called
"protective" caskets (caskets with a rubber gasket) are supposed to
seal, thereby "protecting" the body from "outside elements." This
costs. The rubber gasket used to construct a "sealer" casket costs the
industry $8. But that $8 gasket is likely to raise the cost of the
casket by $800 or more! And what happens to a body in a "sealed"
casket? Instead of the natural dehydration that occurs in most
climates, anaerobic bacteria take over and the body putrifies—as any
grave-digger can attest after an exhumation. (You might want to read
"Bones, Bugs, & Batesville" and one woman's fight against consumer
fraud.)
/end snippet
There are links to sites.
{digging}
http://www.casketxpress.com/listcasketsnew.phtml
http://www.funeraldepot.com/?source=GoogleCaskets&wcw=google
http://www.casketroyale.com/
Do not make an emotional loss a financial ruin (this is stated on
their web page)
Please accept our condolences if you have come to this site at a time
of sorrow and loss. If at any time you have a question, please call
one of our trained counselors at: 1-800-791-4169 .
WTF is an "Eterna-rest adjustable bedding system"?
It's not like the occupants going to roll over and need the covers to
reset themselves.
And its not like anyone's going to 'trade-in' the casket for a new one
in say ten yeras.....
Yes, I've wondered about all this myself. It seems the dead need quite
a bit of lavish comfort in order to properly rest in the hereafter.
Myself, I don't see the point. It's not like I'm going to have any use
for my corpse after I die. Whether there's an afterlife or not, I'm
quite sure I won't be checking in to make sure my rotting remains are
residing in proper comfort -- so feed it to the rats for all I care.
Drop it down a well, chop it up and feed it to the pigs -- or yourself,
if you're into that kind of thing -- or bury it in a drum full of toxic
waste. I couldn't care less.
I've often thought of putting a request in my will that no unreasonable
effort or expense be made on my corpse. Maybe I'll limit the funeral
costs to $50.
--
Mekkala, Atheist #2148
"Atheism is ... the bed-rock of sanity in a world of madness."
--Emmett F. Fields
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
13 Oct 2004 09:49:54 AM |
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Mekkala wrote:
Yes, I've wondered about all this myself. It seems the dead need quite
a bit of lavish comfort in order to properly rest in the hereafter.
Myself, I don't see the point. It's not like I'm going to have any use
for my corpse after I die. Whether there's an afterlife or not, I'm
quite sure I won't be checking in to make sure my rotting remains are
residing in proper comfort -- so feed it to the rats for all I care.
Drop it down a well, chop it up and feed it to the pigs -- or yourself,
if you're into that kind of thing -- or bury it in a drum full of toxic
waste. I couldn't care less.
I've often thought of putting a request in my will that no unreasonable
effort or expense be made on my corpse. Maybe I'll limit the funeral
costs to $50.
Donate your body to medical research, and its disposal will cost your
heirs nothing while benefiting society. Organ donor programs also
dispose of remains with no cost to the survivors.
--
John Popelish
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| User: "Gregory Gadow" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
18 Oct 2004 08:23:34 AM |
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Mekkala wrote:
On Tue 12 Oct 2004 11:59:34p, stoney <stoney@the.net> kicked back with a
beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint, then
fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Myself, I don't see the point. It's not like I'm going to have any use
for my corpse after I die. Whether there's an afterlife or not, I'm
quite sure I won't be checking in to make sure my rotting remains are
residing in proper comfort -- so feed it to the rats for all I care.
Drop it down a well, chop it up and feed it to the pigs -- or yourself,
if you're into that kind of thing -- or bury it in a drum full of toxic
waste. I couldn't care less.
I remember reading back in the mid 80s that even if socially acceptable,
cannibalism would have to be banned in the modern world. Between food
additives and environmental pollution, not to mention things like smoking
and alcoholism, human meat could never meet the standards we had for beef
and pork.
--
Gregory Gadow
techbear@serv.net
http://www.serv.net/~techbear
"The accumulation of all power, legislative,
executive, and judicial in the same hands...
may justly be pronounced the very definition
of tyranny."
- James Madison, _The Federalist_, #47
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| User: "Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Caskets and other containers |
18 Oct 2004 01:52:59 PM |
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On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:23:34 -0700, Gregory Gadow <techbear@serv.net> wrote:
Mekkala wrote:
On Tue 12 Oct 2004 11:59:34p, stoney <stoney@the.net> kicked back with a
beer, ruminated at length, fell asleep, woke up, lit up a joint, then
fell asleep again after thoughtfully blurting out:
http://www.funerals.org/caskets.htm
Myself, I don't see the point. It's not like I'm going to have any use
for my corpse after I die. Whether there's an afterlife or not, I'm
quite sure I won't be checking in to make sure my rotting remains are
residing in proper comfort -- so feed it to the rats for all I care.
Drop it down a well, chop it up and feed it to the pigs -- or yourself,
if you're into that kind of thing -- or bury it in a drum full of toxic
waste. I couldn't care less.
I remember reading back in the mid 80s that even if socially acceptable,
cannibalism would have to be banned in the modern world. Between food
additives and environmental pollution, not to mention things like smoking
and alcoholism, human meat could never meet the standards we had for beef
and pork.
What if it were "game", captured during permitted hunting season?
Is venison, for instance, required to pass the standards for beef?
--
/Apostate
atheist #1931 I've found it!
BAAWA Knife AND SMASHer
EAC Supernumerary Deputy Director, Department of Redundancy Department
plonked by Lani_girl, first post; Billions Served!
I doubt, therefore I might be.
For e-mail, hold that tiger!
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