Religions > Atheism > OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
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OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
23 Mar 2005 02:04:47 AM |
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In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress, yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense,
founded on the Christian religion..."
Joel Barlow, Treaty of Tripoli (1796)
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24 Mar 2005 12:10:47 PM |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:04:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress, yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
26 Mar 2005 01:57:45 AM |
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In article <qj0641l5cv76dhms9i6lutpe2octaftm82@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:04:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress, yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
I wouldn't even give them that much credit.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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26 Mar 2005 05:25:08 PM |
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:57:45 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <qj0641l5cv76dhms9i6lutpe2octaftm82@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:04:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress, yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
I wouldn't even give them that much credit.
I know. What can I say since I'm such a kindly and optimistic chap.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:57:45 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <qj0641l5cv76dhms9i6lutpe2octaftm82@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:04:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about
her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her
parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced
by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed
with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law
that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV
at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken
a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and
law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless
woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress,
yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
I wouldn't even give them that much credit.
I know. What can I say since I'm such a kindly and optimistic chap.
You won't be disappointed. Si & Am have their places reserved
for them in The Great Litterbox In The Sky. And, they will all
definitely be head down. The same for all the trolls making hay
out of this tragedy. (It's times like this that I wish this was so.)
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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27 Mar 2005 01:34:35 AM |
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In article <I7udnb8t_IS4udvfRVn-pw@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:57:45 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <qj0641l5cv76dhms9i6lutpe2octaftm82@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 00:04:47 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <3mr0419qldvpie3meff2nc0a3i69tt3kvt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
http://www.detnews.com/2005/metro/0503/22/B01-124741.htm
Tuesday, March 22, 2005
Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy
By Laura Berman / The Detroit News
To be blunt about it, I don't care whether Terri Schiavo lives or
dies.
More to the point, the ultimate decisions that need to be made about
her tragic life are none of my business.
For 15 years, the people who need to make a very tough call about
her
very delicate condition have battled it out in the courts. Her
parents
and sister are her staunch advocates. Her husband, who is convinced
by
substantial medical evidence that she's in a persistent vegetative
state, sought to remove the feeding tube that keeps her alive.
Last week, he succeeded.
Since 1993, the Florida courts have, chronically and persistently,
sided with husband Michael Schiavo and, more importantly, agreed
with
the evidence that supported his decision. Their actions haven't been
capricious: Terri Schiavo's case has received so much oversight that
Rutgers Law Professor Norman Cantor told USA TODAY she'd received
"more due process than any medical patient in history." On three
separate occasions, the U.S. Supreme Court has declined to intervene
in the case.
But Congress -- and specifically, those members who are typically
identified as conservatives -- decided that Schiavo's life was so
precious to them that they opted to create a special federal law
that
nullifies the court system on Terri Schiavo's behalf.
Their actions make a mockery of our system and -- even more -- of
their belief system.
There's nothing conservative about overriding due process, knocking
down the barriers between branches of government, and handing over a
state issue to the federal courts.
Watching the president jetting to D.C. from Texas makes for good TV
at
the expense of good government. The same man, then the governor of
Texas, coolly refused to intervene in the execution of Karla Faye
Tucker. Now he's riding Air Force One to the rescue.
I can't decide whether the heat over Terri Schiavo is a matter of
crude hypocrisy or brilliant melodrama.
The Republicans get all the good lines here: They're the party of
"life," fighting to stop starving to death a woman who hasn't spoken
a
word or eaten a morsel of food for 15 years.
The Democrats -- craven and timid -- are adhering to principle and
law
but at tremendous cost: They've allowed themselves to be cast as the
party of death, cold-hearted villains willing to let a helpless
woman
die. Given that untenable stance, they've quietly enabled their
opponents to subvert the Constitution, and the judicial system.
Anyone who has to make a life-ending decision for a family member
suffers. Every day, in hospitals and hospices across the country,
mothers, fathers, husbands and wives are forced to make very similar
decisions to Michael Schiavo's.
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress,
yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
I wouldn't even give them that much credit.
I know. What can I say since I'm such a kindly and optimistic chap.
You won't be disappointed. Si & Am have their places reserved
for them in The Great Litterbox In The Sky. And, they will all
definitely be head down. The same for all the trolls making hay
out of this tragedy. (It's times like this that I wish this was so.)
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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27 Mar 2005 03:33:29 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
[]
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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27 Mar 2005 11:08:29 PM |
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In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
[]
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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29 Mar 2005 10:24:27 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
[]
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
29 Mar 2005 11:57:16 PM |
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In article <s80j41pqrjakv62aeviossa4jikm1k5vjo@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
[]
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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30 Mar 2005 10:07:49 AM |
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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:57:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <s80j41pqrjakv62aeviossa4jikm1k5vjo@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
30 Mar 2005 11:50:46 PM |
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In article <eljl419ag9fbovsugrj38ofemanv58sm3f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:57:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <s80j41pqrjakv62aeviossa4jikm1k5vjo@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags
that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
31 Mar 2005 10:24:48 AM |
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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:50:46 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <eljl419ag9fbovsugrj38ofemanv58sm3f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:57:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <s80j41pqrjakv62aeviossa4jikm1k5vjo@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags
that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it. I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
01 Apr 2005 12:01:20 AM |
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In article <t19o41h5641bme46svtt7l41800dotesh7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 21:50:46 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <eljl419ag9fbovsugrj38ofemanv58sm3f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:57:16 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <s80j41pqrjakv62aeviossa4jikm1k5vjo@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 21:08:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <ui9e41lebjoi6ivhb453ce1f0e9k98tnsh@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 23:34:35 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
The only good that seems to be coming out of this sorry situation
is
that some of our so called leaders are being exposed for the
opportunistic, unprincipled, heartless, money grubbing, politically
pandering, groveling-before-the-religious-right, little slime bags
that
they are. And some of the recent polls are starting to reflect it.
I
just hope that people remember it at election time.
They won't and those that do will be disenfranchised not to mention
'the fix is in.'
In any event, the neocons can always distract them by starting another
war.
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
Eh?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Apr 2005 04:01:24 PM |
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On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:01:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <t19o41h5641bme46svtt7l41800dotesh7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
Eh?
Time between, generally, thirty minutes after midnight to 3 am, or so.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Conservatives make mockery of justice in the Terri Schiavo tragedy |
03 Apr 2005 12:39:06 AM |
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In article <n3hr419kolovogse40d8nh8vbjbbudsagb@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:01:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <t19o41h5641bme46svtt7l41800dotesh7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
Eh?
Time between, generally, thirty minutes after midnight to 3 am, or so.
Aha! I need to keep up with this military terminology given the growth
of militarism under the Bushies.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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01 Apr 2005 08:39:59 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:01:24 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:01:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <t19o41h5641bme46svtt7l41800dotesh7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
Eh?
Time between, generally, thirty minutes after midnight to 3 am, or so.
I always thought it was any time after midnight and before dawn
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02 Apr 2005 01:56:35 PM |
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On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 21:39:59 -0500, AngryJohn
<AngryJohn@AngryJohnBelief.net> wrote:
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 14:01:24 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:01:20 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <t19o41h5641bme46svtt7l41800dotesh7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
They've been at war with the US Constitution since day 1.
That too, but you need a constant state of foreign war to distract the
proles and give them something to hate more than their own government.
/cue mental images of the French Revolution.
So when do we storm the Bastille?
0 Dark 30.
Eh?
Time between, generally, thirty minutes after midnight to 3 am, or so.
I always thought it was any time after midnight and before dawn
That's why I said generally. I've never heard it utilized other than
within that time frame.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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27 Mar 2005 03:31:54 PM |
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On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 22:10:39 -0500, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:9prb41lflugrk7otgvqnll13ar00hsjk2c@4ax.com...
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 23:57:45 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <qj0641l5cv76dhms9i6lutpe2octaftm82@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
I know that in his heart, Tom DeLay doesn't give a whit about Terri
Schiavo -- a woman who can't laugh or shake his hand, who can't vote
for him or even sign a check.
But her case isn't about heart. It's about politics and cold blood.
Laura Berman's column runs Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday in Metro.
Reach her at (248) 647-7221 or lberman@detnews.com.
© 2005 Detroit News
I am totally disgusted by the way that Bush and members of Congress,
yes
many Democrats among them, are making a political football out of this
poor woman's misfortune.
Congress and the Executive branches are all from the soggy end of the
kitty box.
I wouldn't even give them that much credit.
I know. What can I say since I'm such a kindly and optimistic chap.
You won't be disappointed. Si & Am have their places reserved
for them in The Great Litterbox In The Sky. And, they will all
definitely be head down. The same for all the trolls making hay
out of this tragedy. (It's times like this that I wish this was so.)
No kidding. These Christians are very disgusting vermin.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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