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11 Jan 2006 01:47:43 AM |
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OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
Interesting. Apparently acid doesn't hurt longevity.
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Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday
By SAM CAGE, Associated Press WriterTue Jan 10, 2:12 PM ET
LSD is an unlikely subject for a 100th birthday party. Yet the Swiss
chemist who discovered the mind-altering drug and was its first human
guinea pig is celebrating his centenary Wednesday in good health and
with plans to attend an international seminar on the hallucinogenic.
"I had wonderful visions," Albert Hofmann said, recalling his first
accidental consumption of the drug.
"I sat down at home on the divan and started to dream," he told the
Swiss television network SF DRS. "What I was thinking appeared in colors
and in pictures. It lasted for a couple of hours and then it
disappeared."
Hofmann, who also had bad experiences with the drug, continues to insist
it should be legalized for medical treatment, particularly in
psychiatric research. But LSD's reputation has been as turbulent as some
acid trips.
The drug earned a bad reputation amid fatalities associated with
hallucinations and reports of "flashbacks" the recurrence of
hallucinations when not taking the drug.
LSD inspired the 1960s hippy generation and was immortalized in the
Beatles' hit "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds," although the band denied
any connection. But it was also known as Like Swift Dead.
For decades after LSD was banned in the late 1960s, Hofmann defended his
invention.
"I produced the substance as a medicine," he said. "It's not my fault if
people abused it."
The chemist who still takes nearly daily walks in the picturesque
village where he lives in the Jura mountains with his wife of 70 years,
Anita discovered lysergic acid diethylamide-25 in 1938 while studying
the medicinal uses of a fungus found on wheat and other grains at the
Sandoz pharmaceuticals firm, now part of Novartis.
The company declined to comment for this story.
Hofmann was the first person to test the drug when a tiny amount of the
substance seeped on to his finger during a repeat of the laboratory
experiment in April 1943.
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
Hofmann and his scientific colleagues hoped LSD would make an important
contribution to psychiatric research. The drug exaggerated inner
problems and conflicts, and they hoped it might be used to recognize and
treat mental illnesses like schizophrenia.
The drug was popularized by Timothy Leary, the one-time Harvard lecturer
known as the "high priest of LSD," whose "turn on, tune in, drop out"
advice to students in the 1960s glamorized the hallucinogen. The film
star Cary Grant and numerous rock musicians extolled its virtues in
achieving true self-discovery and enlightenment.
But away from the psychedelic trips and flower children, stories emerged
of people going on murder sprees or jumping out of windows while
hallucinating. Heavy users suffered permanent psychological damage.
The United States banned LSD in 1966 and other countries followed suit.
Hofmann maintains that was unfair, arguing the drug was not addictive.
He has repeatedly said the ban should be lifted so LSD can be used in
medical research, and he took the drug himself purportedly on an
occasional basis and out of scientific interest for several decades.
But he added a note of caution.
"The history of LSD to date amply demonstrates the catastrophic
consequences that can ensue when its profound effect is misjudged and
the substance is mistaken for a pleasure drug," he wrote.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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13 Jan 2006 12:04:07 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 23:47:43 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
Interesting. Apparently acid doesn't hurt longevity.
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Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday
GodŽ bless you, you magnificent *****!
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zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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11 Jan 2006 11:05:59 AM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011, aw Hellboy #5
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
12 Jan 2006 01:06:57 AM |
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In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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12 Jan 2006 02:45:22 PM |
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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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13 Jan 2006 12:18:54 AM |
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In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Jan 2006 12:25:43 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:18:54 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
14 Jan 2006 02:08:16 AM |
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In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:18:54 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of
the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a
hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings
turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked
witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen
like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
14 Jan 2006 12:05:14 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:18:54 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote of
the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a
hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings
turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked
witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen
like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
15 Jan 2006 12:59:41 AM |
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In article <f8fis1hua1m3e34b4ov2g8jf8c8r0s79nt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:18:54 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote
of
the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such
a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a
hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but
the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings
turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked
witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I
was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I
guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen
like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there
will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
16 Jan 2006 12:50:16 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:59:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f8fis1hua1m3e34b4ov2g8jf8c8r0s79nt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there
will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
From: erikc <firew...@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke?
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:23:04 -0600
Message-ID: <q8hds1lprpp7k67fgdkdq0qqp5i1p4mur9@4ax.com>
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
17 Jan 2006 12:00:22 AM |
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In article <0lqns11sj71no37i7hjqg71s9ll5phn71o@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:59:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f8fis1hua1m3e34b4ov2g8jf8c8r0s79nt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into
their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there
will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in
some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time,
or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
From: erikc <firew...@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke?
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:23:04 -0600
Message-ID: <q8hds1lprpp7k67fgdkdq0qqp5i1p4mur9@4ax.com>
Aha! I knew there was something funny about all this anointing business.
Now I'm wondering about something. Before the Alito hearings, some
fundies snuck into the hearing room and 'anointed' the chairs with oil.
Now that might explain some of the funny business that went on there.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| Title: Re: OT: Father of LSD Celebrating 100th Birthday |
18 Jan 2006 10:12:49 PM |
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On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:00:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <0lqns11sj71no37i7hjqg71s9ll5phn71o@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:59:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f8fis1hua1m3e34b4ov2g8jf8c8r0s79nt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into
their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there
will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in
some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time,
or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
From: erikc <firew...@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke?
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:23:04 -0600
Message-ID: <q8hds1lprpp7k67fgdkdq0qqp5i1p4mur9@4ax.com>
Aha! I knew there was something funny about all this anointing business.
Now I'm wondering about something. Before the Alito hearings, some
fundies snuck into the hearing room and 'anointed' the chairs with oil.
Now that might explain some of the funny business that went on there.
The small amounts of oil used would require a far more powerful hallucinogen
than cannabinoids. Perhaps LSD?
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 22:12:49 -0600, erikc <firewevr@airmail.net> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 22:00:22 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <0lqns11sj71no37i7hjqg71s9ll5phn71o@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
[]
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
From: erikc <firew...@airmail.net>
Subject: Re: What Would Jesus Smoke?
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:23:04 -0600
Message-ID: <q8hds1lprpp7k67fgdkdq0qqp5i1p4mur9@4ax.com>
Aha! I knew there was something funny about all this anointing business.
Now I'm wondering about something. Before the Alito hearings, some
fundies snuck into the hearing room and 'anointed' the chairs with oil.
Now that might explain some of the funny business that went on there.
The small amounts of oil used would require a far more powerful hallucinogen
than cannabinoids. Perhaps LSD?
LDS? ;)
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a cornucopia of splinters.
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:59:41 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
In article <f8fis1hua1m3e34b4ov2g8jf8c8r0s79nt@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:08:16 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <f3sfs11j0o0dlmb3h4ktj3jikb9ftc3bd4@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:18:54 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <0ufds119s2j6895m4qbcgn0fm7a2lderp6@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:06:57 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <Xns97485C772E3C3vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> wrote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet johac
(jhachmann@sbcglobal.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
"Everything I saw was distorted, as in a warped mirror," he wrote
of
the
experience, noting his surprise that LSD was able to produce "such
a
far-reaching, powerful, inebriated condition without leaving a
hangover."
The chemist experimented with a larger dose three days later, but
the
result this time was a "horror" trip, he wrote. His surroundings
turned
into threatening images. A neighbor was transformed into a wicked
witch.
"I was filled with an overwhelming fear that I would go crazy. I
was
transported to a different world, a different time," he wrote.
This kind of reminds me of what those NDE people babble about. I
guess
they'll never understand the scope of the effects of a hallucinigen
like
LSD or Endorphins until they experience it firsthand.
Many religions have incorporated the use of hallucinogens into their
practices, like some Native Americans and peyote. I wonder if there
will
ever be a major religion built around LSD?
It's called Christianity only natural LSD was used at the time.
More likely pyschotropic mushrooms which were used by the Greeks in some
of their cult practices. Pot and opium were also known at that time, or
maybe when they concocted their nonsense, they were drunk on wine.
I'm not up on the natural stuff that would have been available in that
part of the world. I figured the point would get across.
Well 'Revelations' reads like something that definitely could have been
written on acid, so I would agree with that.
What's really wild is another poster posted an article which is said to
have analyzed the bible text dealing with the annointing of oil. If
it's correct-WHEW!
Which one was that?
This one:
http://www.hightimes.com/ht/news/content.php?bid=31&aid=2
Erikc (alt.atheist #002) | "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil."
BAAWA Knight (retired) | "The Truth against the World."
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