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I was fired 27 February, 2007. I received the notice first by phone from
the new Director, and by priority mail the next day (yesterday).

Holy crap! Are you okay about it? I know you were desperately unhappy
there, especially with the current situation.

Yes, I am okay - and no, I am not okay. I have worked for many years and
never even had a letter of reprimand, let alone been fired. I am
devastated by the lies in my letter of termination (had to ask someone
what to call it - I kept calling it my "firing letter".) I keep saying,
"But I didn't do (or say) that!!!"

While I know you don't need any further aggravation, it sounds to me like
you've got the basis for a lawsuit.

On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:33:21 -0700, Pangur Ban wrote:

Robibnikoff submitted this idea :

"Pangur Ban" <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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I was fired 27 February, 2007. I received the notice first by phone
from
the new Director, and by priority mail the next day (yesterday).

Holy crap! Are you okay about it? I know you were desperately unhappy
there, especially with the current situation.

Yes, I am okay - and no, I am not okay. I have worked for many years
and never even had a letter of reprimand, let alone been fired. I am
devastated by the lies in my letter of termination (had to ask someone
what to call it - I kept calling it my "firing letter".) I keep saying,
"But I didn't do (or say) that!!!"

And this is _why_ you need a lawyer. You should not let them get away
with lying about their reasons for firing you, if you can possibly help
it. And lawyers, by the way, are used to dealing with hysterically
anxious clients.

"Pangur Ban" <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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johac explained :

In article <mn.09a77d73536c5eba.64065@worldnet.att.net>,
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I was fired 27 February, 2007. I received the notice first by phone from
the new Director, and by priority mail the next day (yesterday).

I'm sorry to hear that. It seems that you liked the job in spite of some
of the people around you. I'm sure you'll find a better one.

I can't even think of that yet.

The Whistleblower War is continuing with new developments almost daily. A
talk with a Special Agent in the Attorney General's Office - one Board
President suddenly out of office and a new one in (a County Sheriff who is
well aware of all the thefts and who even had a "talk" with one of the
whistleblowers about committing a no-no for whistleblowing) - an attempt to
feed false information to the whistleblowers, but which we had the good
sense to double/triple check before considering reporting it.

Bad sign in an awful situation. If he (the Sherriff) and other local elected
officials are working hand in hand in some sort of 'Good ole' boy' network,

you've really got your work cut out for you. But perhaps it is a blessing in
disguise. You and the other whistle-blowers may have inadvertantly exposed a
cabal of corruption that heretofore was well camoflauged. If a local
newspaper were to print an 'expose' of this well documented bit of depraved
behavior,

the locals may be outraged enough to go and get their axe-handles,
torches, and nearly rabid dogs to go after the dirt-bags as if they were so
many 'Frankensteins'! Let's just hope they've seen the movies. Stealing money
from children who practically got frostbite collecting it is truly revolting.
Laughing at your none-to-keen medical condition and savaged state of mind is
just as deplorable. They wouldn't be ... no ... I'm not going there.

I cling to this belief that 'Good will triumph over Evil, always has, and
always will -- until that moment that super-virus causes us to go extinct. I
hope, in your case, that turns out to be true -- and soon!

I spent today waiting for the police to show up at my house with a search
warrant as I have been accused of stealing Agency property. I also am
supposed to have a collection of tapes I have been making of co-workers
over the past few months; I had been carrying a recorder. I have one tape
- and placed the recorder conspicuously on the desk between the Director
and me. She didn't object to the recorder.... so I let the tape roll.

Not exactly 'covert', was it?

I am having a rough time medically. I am very cautiously - very very
cautiously - taking a half dose of Ativan - but yesterday had to take a
full dose as I was headed into a full-blown anxiety attack. :-(

Just don't develop an addictive 'fondness' for the stuff.

No wonder, with all that's been going on around you.

That is one thing which puzzles all of us. How did I get to be considered
the big ringleader? When not teaching my parenting - or out on a speaking
engagement, I was in my room working on my computer creating new materials
or improving old ones... often with my door shut and my music on. No
wandering up front to gossip - no arguing with the ex-Director - minding my
own business and doing my work!!! I listened to anyone who wanted to talk
- kept confidences so I was known to be trustworthy - and now I am some
sort of Hitler or Svengali or Rasputin or - or - ????? I had nothing to
do with the finances, or donations, or even clients except my parenting
classes - my letter was the most innocuous of the nine. But now I am
somehow the EVIL ONE.

Perhaps the most 'vocal'?

Pooh! I am going to go take half an Ativan and go to bed!!!

I took time out from composing an intake form for the National
Whistleblowers site to post. A very supportive email from Greywolf
encouraged me to do so.

Uggghhhh! Start preparing to be hauled off to Alcatraz. Start practicing
making little rocks out of big rocks, sister. Do they still use the electric
chair in your state? Guilt by association, you know.

I can't say "Thank God" for him

Yes you can. It's the *sentiment* that's appreciated, not the reference to a
creature thought to use a part of himself to cause certain evangelical
Christians to speak perfect, unintelligible gibberish -- and with a perfect
*southern*-heaven 'accent', to boot!

and the rest
of you - ROFL - because there is no such to thank - but I can thank you,
each and every one of you, who has offered support online or just
silently while reading about my situation.

Yeah. Us selfish, amoral, evil, mean, nasty atheists. :-)

ROFL!!!!! Ain't it the truuuuth? Ain't it the truuuuth???

My fellow whistleblowers check on me constantly as they are so worried
about my health; I am grateful for each of them also. My nursey neighbor
brought over a full carafe of special tea for me last night; guess she
decided a mug wasn't enough.

That was nice.

She and her hubby consider me family they told me; they are lovely people.

The second fire in my subject line refers to the fire a mile east of my
house the night of the 27th. I stood outside the back door watching the
flames glowing and dancing in the night. The wind was blowing towards
the fire so I didn't have to worry about the smoke and evacuating the
birds - and the fire was brought quickly under control. One fire to the
west - and one to the east. The targeting is getting better and better!
*shudder*

That is scary. We had a big fire in San Diego a few years ago. My place
was not in danger, but the flames were close enough that I started
planning escape routes.

LOL I just would put the SUV in 4-wheel and head right across the desert
away from the fire - no route necessary!

You mentioned that you spoke to a local reporter and nothing happened.
Perhaps a big city or a national newspaper might be interested. It could
be worth a shot.

We are not through - one of the whistleblowers suggest Bill O'Rielly ...
whoever he is - but we are trying to work in-state so far.

Keep well. Keep cool. And keep out of fires.

I do have hoses out front and out back. I hope they are never needed.

As for the firestorm in the Agency - I am toasting nicely ... or am I
already toast?

-- Pangur Ban

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing" Edmund Burke

Ain't *that* the truth!

Greywolf

In article <mn.0cf27d73a086a0c4.64065@worldnet.att.net>,
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

johac explained :

In article <mn.09a77d73536c5eba.64065@worldnet.att.net>,
Pangur Ban <PangurBanTheist@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

I was fired 27 February, 2007. I received the notice first by phone
from the new Director, and by priority mail the next day (yesterday).

I'm sorry to hear that. It seems that you liked the job in spite of some
of the people around you. I'm sure you'll find a better one.

I can't even think of that yet.

The Whistleblower War is continuing with new developments almost daily.
A talk with a Special Agent in the Attorney General's Office - one
Board President suddenly out of office and a new one in (a County
Sheriff who is well aware of all the thefts and who even had a "talk"
with one of the whistleblowers about committing a no-no for
whistleblowing) - an attempt to feed false information to the
whistleblowers, but which we had the good sense to double/triple check
before considering reporting it.

Good. Checking the information that is. I don't know what's going on
there. If law enforcement is corrupt, what is a law abiding citizen to
do?

I spent today waiting for the police to show up at my house with a
search warrant as I have been accused of stealing Agency property. I
also am supposed to have a collection of tapes I have been making of
co-workers over the past few months; I had been carrying a recorder.
I have one tape - and placed the recorder conspicuously on the desk
between the Director and me. She didn't object to the recorder.... so
I let the tape roll.

I'd make a copy of the tape and give it to someone else for safe keeping.

I am having a rough time medically. I am very cautiously - very very
cautiously - taking a half dose of Ativan - but yesterday had to take a
full dose as I was headed into a full-blown anxiety attack. :-(

No wonder, with all that's been going on around you.

That is one thing which puzzles all of us. How did I get to be
considered the big ringleader? When not teaching my parenting - or out
on a speaking engagement, I was in my room working on my computer
creating new materials or improving old ones... often with my door shut
and my music on. No wandering up front to gossip - no arguing with the
ex-Director - minding my own business and doing my work!!! I listened
to anyone who wanted to talk - kept confidences so I was known to be
trustworthy - and now I am some sort of Hitler or Svengali or Rasputin
or - or - ????? I had nothing to do with the finances, or donations,
or even clients except my parenting classes - my letter was the most
innocuous of the nine. But now I am somehow the EVIL ONE.

Maybe they feel that since you are one of the good ones, they have to
drag you down so they can say "See! Everybody's crooked!"

Pooh! I am going to go take half an Ativan and go to bed!!!

Have a good sleep.

I took time out from composing an intake form for the National
Whistleblowers site to post. A very supportive email from Greywolf
encouraged me to do so. I can't say "Thank God" for him and the rest
of you - ROFL - because there is no such to thank - but I can thank
you, each and every one of you, who has offered support online or just
silently while reading about my situation.

Yeah. Us selfish, amoral, evil, mean, nasty atheists. :-)

ROFL!!!!! Ain't it the truuuuth? Ain't it the truuuuth???

LOL!

My fellow whistleblowers
check on me constantly as they are so worried about my health; I am
grateful for each of them also. My nursey neighbor brought over a full
carafe of special tea for me last night; guess she decided a mug
wasn't enough.

That was nice.

She and her hubby consider me family they told me; they are lovely
people.

They sure sound like it.

The second fire in my subject line refers to the fire a mile east of my
house the night of the 27th. I stood outside the back door watching
the flames glowing and dancing in the night. The wind was blowing
towards the fire so I didn't have to worry about the smoke and
evacuating the birds - and the fire was brought quickly under control.
One fire to the west - and one to the east. The targeting is getting
better and better! *shudder*

That is scary. We had a big fire in San Diego a few years ago. My place
was not in danger, but the flames were close enough that I started
planning escape routes.

LOL I just would put the SUV in 4-wheel and head right across the
desert away from the fire - no route necessary!

True. I can't drive the Accord through someone's housing complex. I had
to figure out which roads were not running next to canyons and which way
the fires were heading.

You mentioned that you spoke to a local reporter and nothing happened.
Perhaps a big city or a national newspaper might be interested. It could
be worth a shot.

We are not through - one of the whistleblowers suggest Bill O'Rielly
... whoever he is - but we are trying to work in-state so far.

The Bill O'Reilly on Fox News is a right wing loud mouth. I don't know
if he would be all that interested. I don't know what the big newspaper
in New Mexico is, but It could be worth a try. It might be a waste of a
letter, but I wonder if it might be possible to contact papers like the
New York Times, the Washington Post, or the LA Times. They often publish
stories on small town happenings.

Have you thought of writing to your Congressman or state representative?

Keep well. Keep cool. And keep out of fires.

I do have hoses out front and out back. I hope they are never needed.

Good. You sound prepared.

As for the firestorm in the Agency - I am toasting nicely ... or am I
already toast?

I know who should get toasted and it's not you.