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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "stoney"
Date: 12 Aug 2005 09:17:36 AM
Object: OT: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/
Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
Washington declares emergency as blazes rage across Western states
Updated: 2:31 a.m. ET Aug. 12, 2005
ALBERTON, Mont. - Three firefighters who hunkered beneath emergency
shelters as a wildfire burned over them emerged safely from the
flames, officials said Thursday.
The firefighters were among those battling a blaze late Wednesday that
forced crews to retreat and shut down a major power line in western
Montana. Estimates of the fire’s size Thursday ranged from 6,600 acres
to 8,000 acres.
Fire information officer Alan Barbian said the three firefighters
deployed their fire shelters as the flames closed in. All three
escaped unharmed.
Story continues below ? advertisement
“The fire shelters worked,” Barbian said Thursday. The lightweight,
fireproof tents “did what they’re supposed to, and we have three
people alive because of it.”
High wind advanced the fire more than four miles and doubled its size,
he said. The fire started last week along Interstate 90.
The flames shut down power circuits capable of carrying enough
electricity for two Seattle-size cities, said Alan Hansen, a
Bonneville Power Administration spokesman in Portland, Ore. However,
the lines were carrying only a fraction of their capacity and service
was not interrupted.
State of emergency
In Washington state, Gov. Christine Gregoire on Thursday declared a
wildfire emergency, ordering state agencies to contribute to
firefighting efforts, and alerted the National Guard for possible call
up if crews need help.
“We’re facing a siege of wildfires across our state,” she told
reporters at the Capitol.
The largest fire, a 42,000-acre blaze in southeastern Washington near
Pomeroy, was 40 percent contained but was burning south toward cabins
in the Umatilla National Forest, said John Townsley of the Northwest
Interagency Coordination Center in Portland, Ore.
Federal fire officials said the fire had burned 49 residences and 38
outbuildings, with more charred areas to be checked. About 100 homes,
some full-time homes and some seasonal cabins, remained evacuated.
A new fire believed to have been started by a spark from a wheat truck
west of Spokane quickly spread, prompting evacuation of about 20 homes
in north Lincoln County, said Andrew Stenbeck, a state Department of
Natural Resources spokesman. The fire was estimated at 1,500 acres
Thursday morning.
A wildfire in north-central Idaho doubled in size Thursday, prompting
the evacuation of about 100 homes in the Mount Idaho area. The blaze
was estimated at more than 1,000 acres on state land and in the Nez
Perce National Forest.
The National Interagency Fire Center said 33 large fires, totaling
222,510 acres, were burning Thursday, mostly in Western states. So far
this year, wildfires have charred 5.5 million acres nationwide,
compared with 5.6 million acres at the same time last year.
© 2005 The Associated Press.
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Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
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User: "Sean C"

Title: Re: OT: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 12 Aug 2005 12:29:07 PM
In article <gpbpf199a336jmv0vd6j42q3brsmi91lpf@4ax.com>, stoney
<stoney@the.net> wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/

Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
Washington declares emergency as blazes rage across Western states

Updated: 2:31 a.m. ET Aug. 12, 2005

ALBERTON, Mont. - Three firefighters who hunkered beneath emergency
shelters as a wildfire burned over them emerged safely from the
flames, officials said Thursday.

The firefighters were among those battling a blaze late Wednesday that
forced crews to retreat and shut down a major power line in western
Montana. Estimates of the fire’s size Thursday ranged from 6,600 acres
to 8,000 acres.

Fire information officer Alan Barbian said the three firefighters
deployed their fire shelters as the flames closed in. All three
escaped unharmed.
Story continues below ? advertisement

“The fire shelters worked,” Barbian said Thursday. The lightweight,
fireproof tents “did what they’re supposed to, and we have three
people alive because of it.”

Praise Jebus, it's a miracle! Satan's hellfires have been foiled again
by the wonder of prayer. Of course, had those guys been atheists and
not prayed heartily to Jebus, they would be crispy critters right now.
Sean C
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User: "LisaKay"

Title: Re: OT: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 12 Aug 2005 09:43:19 AM
stoney wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/

Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
Washington declares emergency as blazes rage across Western states


Interesting article! I hadn't heard of fire shelters, so after a bit
of research, I found this article:
http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218392023
-LisaKay
aa #2054
.
User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: OT: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 12 Aug 2005 04:34:13 PM
LisaKay wrote:

stoney wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/

Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
Washington declares emergency as blazes rage across Western states


Interesting article! I hadn't heard of fire shelters, so after a bit
of research, I found this article:

http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218392023

I'd like to know if they had the newer shelters. We've yet to see one.
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 14 Aug 2005 11:42:34 PM
On 12 Aug 2005 07:43:19 -0700, "LisaKay" <LisaKay2054@hotmail.com>
wrote:


stoney wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/

Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters
Washington declares emergency as blazes rage across Western states


Interesting article! I hadn't heard of fire shelters, so after a bit
of research, I found this article:

http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?article_id=218392023

Thanks for the update. I'm glad to know they've been improved.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.


User: "Mike Painter"

Title: Re: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 12 Aug 2005 09:39:07 PM
stoney wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/
Federal fire officials said the fire had burned 49 residences and 38
outbuildings, with more charred areas to be checked. About 100 homes,
some full-time homes and some seasonal cabins, remained evacuated.

Most if not all of these homes would not have burned had the owners done
what they should have to protect them.
Clear some big trees, clear some brush, clean up around the house, and if
needed get rid of the Oh So Rustic shake roof. (An automatic drive by if an
engine is looking for a house to protect.)
In most cases the main fire will go through an area fast enough to prevent
catching a house on fire. It has to much "mass"
It's the embers that land in the wood pile next to the house. They find a
few splinters and the splinters find a bit of kindling and the kindling
touches off a branch from three winters ago and the branch gets the house
started.
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: Fireproof shelters save Montana firefighters 14 Aug 2005 11:45:25 PM
On Sat, 13 Aug 2005 02:39:07 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

stoney wrote:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8920694/


Federal fire officials said the fire had burned 49 residences and 38
outbuildings, with more charred areas to be checked. About 100 homes,
some full-time homes and some seasonal cabins, remained evacuated.


Most if not all of these homes would not have burned had the owners done
what they should have to protect them.

Clear some big trees, clear some brush, clean up around the house, and if
needed get rid of the Oh So Rustic shake roof. (An automatic drive by if an
engine is looking for a house to protect.)

In most cases the main fire will go through an area fast enough to prevent
catching a house on fire. It has to much "mass"

It's the embers that land in the wood pile next to the house. They find a
few splinters and the splinters find a bit of kindling and the kindling
touches off a branch from three winters ago and the branch gets the house
started.

Yes. Shingle roofs have been illegal here for some ten years, or so,
now. I think the ones that remain are at the end of their service
lives and will be replaced with better stuff.
The local fire dept. worked on my property, among others, two years
ago eliminating standing dead trees and delimbing to a height about
fifteen feet. All remains were chipped.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.



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