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User: "stoney"
Date: 01 Dec 2004 09:35:14 AM
Object: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano}
Article and slide show.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.

User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 01 Dec 2004 08:16:46 PM
On 01 Dec 2004, stoney dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/


Wow, a 3.1 earthquake. Heh... We Southern Californians would probably
sleep through it. It might make a plate fall off a shelf. My eldest
daughter slept through the Northridge quake in 1993, a 6.8. That one was
scary. My house survived. It knocked a shitload of brick walls down.
I love reading about volcanism. Several motorcycle journeys through
California have taken me down Highway 395, where the evidence of
cataclismic (and relatively recent!) volcanic activity resides. If this
interests you, google up Mono Lake, Long Valley, and the Bishop Tuff. The
Bishop Tuff, clearly visible while you drive Highway 395 through the Owens
Valley is the edge of a huge lava flow, several hundred feet high, and
750,000 years old. It's really awesome to view what Mother Nature can
conjure up when it's that time of the month....
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 02 Dec 2004 12:31:08 PM
In article <Xns95B2BA2D34EDCvicman@63.240.76.16> Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> writes:

On 01 Dec 2004, stoney dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/



Wow, a 3.1 earthquake. Heh... We Southern Californians would probably
sleep through it. It might make a plate fall off a shelf. My eldest
daughter slept through the Northridge quake in 1993, a 6.8. That one was
scary. My house survived. It knocked a shitload of brick walls down.

I love reading about volcanism. Several motorcycle journeys through
California have taken me down Highway 395, where the evidence of
cataclismic (and relatively recent!) volcanic activity resides. If this
interests you, google up Mono Lake, Long Valley, and the Bishop Tuff. The
Bishop Tuff, clearly visible while you drive Highway 395 through the Owens
Valley is the edge of a huge lava flow, several hundred feet high, and
750,000 years old. It's really awesome to view what Mother Nature can
conjure up when it's that time of the month....

You might well enjoy a book by john MacPhee, "The Control of Nature".
It has three sections, one is about attempts to keep the Mississippi
where we want it, one is about diverting mud slides above Los Angeles --
but the third is about the struggle of a town in Iceland to keep
lava from a volcanic eruption at bay by hosing it down, day and night
for weeks on end, all by hand, using seawater. It reads like several weeks
spent in hell.
I was going to try to type in a bit more about this, all memories from
having read the book a decade or so ago -- and then I came across what
appears to be someone's book report about (I am not making this up) about
this. Read, particularly, the final two paragraphs:
http://people.stu.ca/~gwzhk/report2.htm


-- cary
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 02 Dec 2004 08:41:00 PM
On 02 Dec 2004, Cary Kittrell dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

In article <Xns95B2BA2D34EDCvicman@63.240.76.16> Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> writes:

On 01 Dec 2004, stoney dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/



Wow, a 3.1 earthquake. Heh... We Southern Californians would
probably sleep through it. It might make a plate fall off a shelf.
My eldest daughter slept through the Northridge quake in 1993, a 6.8.
That one was scary. My house survived. It knocked a shitload of
brick walls down.

I love reading about volcanism. Several motorcycle journeys through
California have taken me down Highway 395, where the evidence of
cataclismic (and relatively recent!) volcanic activity resides. If
this interests you, google up Mono Lake, Long Valley, and the Bishop
Tuff. The Bishop Tuff, clearly visible while you drive Highway 395
through the Owens Valley is the edge of a huge lava flow, several
hundred feet high, and 750,000 years old. It's really awesome to
view what Mother Nature can conjure up when it's that time of the
month....


You might well enjoy a book by john MacPhee, "The Control of Nature".
It has three sections, one is about attempts to keep the Mississippi
where we want it, one is about diverting mud slides above Los Angeles
-- but the third is about the struggle of a town in Iceland to keep
lava from a volcanic eruption at bay by hosing it down, day and night
for weeks on end, all by hand, using seawater. It reads like several
weeks spent in hell.

I was going to try to type in a bit more about this, all memories from
having read the book a decade or so ago -- and then I came across what
appears to be someone's book report about (I am not making this up)
about this. Read, particularly, the final two paragraphs:

http://people.stu.ca/~gwzhk/report2.htm


-- cary

Awesome! I love that kind of stuff!
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 09:14:43 AM
In article <Xns95B3BE49D38A4vicman@63.240.76.16> Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> writes:

On 02 Dec 2004, Cary Kittrell dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

In article <Xns95B2BA2D34EDCvicman@63.240.76.16> Vic Sagerquist
<address@withheld.com> writes:

On 01 Dec 2004, stoney dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/



Wow, a 3.1 earthquake. Heh... We Southern Californians would
probably sleep through it. It might make a plate fall off a shelf.
My eldest daughter slept through the Northridge quake in 1993, a 6.8.
That one was scary. My house survived. It knocked a shitload of
brick walls down.

I love reading about volcanism. Several motorcycle journeys through
California have taken me down Highway 395, where the evidence of
cataclismic (and relatively recent!) volcanic activity resides. If
this interests you, google up Mono Lake, Long Valley, and the Bishop
Tuff. The Bishop Tuff, clearly visible while you drive Highway 395
through the Owens Valley is the edge of a huge lava flow, several
hundred feet high, and 750,000 years old. It's really awesome to
view what Mother Nature can conjure up when it's that time of the
month....


You might well enjoy a book by john MacPhee, "The Control of Nature".
It has three sections, one is about attempts to keep the Mississippi
where we want it, one is about diverting mud slides above Los Angeles
-- but the third is about the struggle of a town in Iceland to keep
lava from a volcanic eruption at bay by hosing it down, day and night
for weeks on end, all by hand, using seawater. It reads like several
weeks spent in hell.

I was going to try to type in a bit more about this, all memories from
having read the book a decade or so ago -- and then I came across what
appears to be someone's book report about (I am not making this up)
about this. Read, particularly, the final two paragraphs:

http://people.stu.ca/~gwzhk/report2.htm


-- cary


Awesome! I love that kind of stuff!

I do recommend the book. McPhee is a good writer, or course. And the
section on mud slides in the San Bernadinos is almost as awesome.
-- cary
.



User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 01 Dec 2004 08:49:03 PM
In our last episode <Xns95B2BA2D34EDCvicman@63.240.76.16>, Vic Sagerquist
lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, stoney dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/



Wow, a 3.1 earthquake. Heh... We Southern Californians would probably

A 3.1 ain't even a quake. It's a jiggle!

sleep through it. It might make a plate fall off a shelf. My eldest
daughter slept through the Northridge quake in 1993, a 6.8. That one was
scary. My house survived. It knocked a shitload of brick walls down.

Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.
I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1 was
it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the hell out
in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was like. Think
I'd rather not know. <g>
(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second one
was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 01 Dec 2004 10:02:21 PM
On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1
was it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the
hell out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was
like. Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second
one was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)

Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows
hit. Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How
surreal can ya get?
Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since
there was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched a
5.5 aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway like
they would in a cartoon or something.
Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring the
bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 07:03:04 AM
In our last episode <Xns95B2CC13FD2D2vicman@204.127.204.17>, Vic
Sagerquist lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1 was
it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the hell
out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was like.
Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second one
was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)


Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows hit.
Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How surreal
can ya get?

<did I post this already? I've lost track>
I *never wanted to be up in one of those towers downtown. I know they're
designed for it and that swaying is part of what keeps them from just
crashing down but... <brrrrrrr>
Though when I lived in Long Beach, I used to cross the Vincent Thomas all
the time. I understand it wiggles. <g>

Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since there
was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched a 5.5
aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway like they
would in a cartoon or something.

Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring the
bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...

Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier quake
was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one back in 1857,
Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the ground from
liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along the fault a couple
of hundred miles long. Without any other explanation for what was
happening, I can almost understand figuring somebody was *really *pissed
*off. <G>
Poking around on the web, I ran across an interesting little map that
shows how widespread the effects of a (roughly) Northridge size quake on
the New Madrid fault would be. SoCal gets quakes so frequently, the ground
is fractured and broken up so the waves don't travel as well as they would
in the Missouri area. This is spooky:
http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/Charleston1895.gif
I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 12:40:00 PM
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:03:04 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <Xns95B2CC13FD2D2vicman@204.127.204.17>, Vic
Sagerquist lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1 was
it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the hell
out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was like.
Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second one
was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)


Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows hit.
Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How surreal
can ya get?


<did I post this already? I've lost track>

I *never wanted to be up in one of those towers downtown. I know they're
designed for it and that swaying is part of what keeps them from just
crashing down but... <brrrrrrr>

Though when I lived in Long Beach, I used to cross the Vincent Thomas all
the time. I understand it wiggles. <g>

Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since there
was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched a 5.5
aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway like they
would in a cartoon or something.

Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring the
bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...


Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier quake
was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one back in 1857,
Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the ground from
liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along the fault a couple
of hundred miles long. Without any other explanation for what was
happening, I can almost understand figuring somebody was *really *pissed
*off. <G>

Poking around on the web, I ran across an interesting little map that
shows how widespread the effects of a (roughly) Northridge size quake on
the New Madrid fault would be. SoCal gets quakes so frequently, the ground
is fractured and broken up so the waves don't travel as well as they would
in the Missouri area. This is spooky:

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/Charleston1895.gif

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...

Of course. East there's nothing to stop the waves.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 09:04:33 PM
In our last episode <smc1r010rmffj3oldeeco7s311227nea9b@4ax.com>, stoney
lept out of the bushes shouting:

On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 07:03:04 -0600, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:

In our last episode <Xns95B2CC13FD2D2vicman@204.127.204.17>, Vic
Sagerquist lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1
was it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the
hell out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was
like. Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second
one was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)


Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows
hit.
Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How
surreal
can ya get?


<did I post this already? I've lost track>

I *never wanted to be up in one of those towers downtown. I know they're
designed for it and that swaying is part of what keeps them from just
crashing down but... <brrrrrrr>

Though when I lived in Long Beach, I used to cross the Vincent Thomas all
the time. I understand it wiggles. <g>

Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since
there was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched a
5.5 aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway
like they would in a cartoon or something.

Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring
the bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...


Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier
quake was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one back in
1857, Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the ground from
liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along the fault a
couple of hundred miles long. Without any other explanation for what was
happening, I can almost understand figuring somebody was *really *pissed
*off. <G>

Poking around on the web, I ran across an interesting little map that
shows how widespread the effects of a (roughly) Northridge size quake on
the New Madrid fault would be. SoCal gets quakes so frequently, the
ground is fractured and broken up so the waves don't travel as well as
they would in the Missouri area. This is spooky:

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/Charleston1895.gif

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...


Of course. East there's nothing to stop the waves.

And nobody is prepared. LA is actually rather well prepared for
earthquakes because of their frequency. But... St. Louis?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 11:44:41 PM
On 03 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...


Of course. East there's nothing to stop the waves.


And nobody is prepared. LA is actually rather well prepared for
earthquakes because of their frequency. But... St. Louis?

I read a book (fiction) about what would happen if a monster quake hit the
New Madrid fault. Memphis burned out. The Mississippi changes course (and
direction for a while). Dead bodies rollin' along down the river and into
the sea. A nuke power plant built on the silt of the mouth of the
Mississippi begins to sink... scary stuff even if it was just a story.
http://tinyurl.com/64cny
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.
User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 04 Dec 2004 03:11:19 PM
In our last episode <Xns95B4DD6DDFEB9vicman@63.240.76.16>, Vic Sagerquist
lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 03 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...


Of course. East there's nothing to stop the waves.


And nobody is prepared. LA is actually rather well prepared for
earthquakes because of their frequency. But... St. Louis?


I read a book (fiction) about what would happen if a monster quake hit the
New Madrid fault. Memphis burned out. The Mississippi changes course
(and direction for a while). Dead bodies rollin' along down the river and
into the sea. A nuke power plant built on the silt of the mouth of the
Mississippi begins to sink... scary stuff even if it was just a story.

http://tinyurl.com/64cny

I might have to put that one on my list...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
.
User: "Lord Calvert"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 04 Dec 2004 05:57:27 PM

I read a book (fiction) about what would happen if a monster quake hit the
New Madrid fault. Memphis burned out. The Mississippi changes course
(and direction for a while). Dead bodies rollin' along down the river and
into the sea. A nuke power plant built on the silt of the mouth of the
Mississippi begins to sink... scary stuff even if it was just a story.

http://tinyurl.com/64cny


I might have to put that one on my list...

The story is a direct rip-off of Allan Danzig's "The Great Nebraska Sea"
written in 1963.
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Those who have loved God most have loved men least." -- Colonel Robert Green
Ingersoll, 1881
.

User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 06 Dec 2004 11:00:24 AM
In article <r_qdnY_7htDPui_cRVn-pw@megapath.net> "Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> writes:

In our last episode <Xns95B4DD6DDFEB9vicman@63.240.76.16>, Vic Sagerquist
lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 03 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then shouted:

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...


Of course. East there's nothing to stop the waves.


And nobody is prepared. LA is actually rather well prepared for
earthquakes because of their frequency. But... St. Louis?


I read a book (fiction) about what would happen if a monster quake hit the
New Madrid fault. Memphis burned out. The Mississippi changes course
(and direction for a while). Dead bodies rollin' along down the river and
into the sea. A nuke power plant built on the silt of the mouth of the
Mississippi begins to sink... scary stuff even if it was just a story.

http://tinyurl.com/64cny


I might have to put that one on my list...

You're in southern Louisiana, I read in another thread? If so, you
also might like the book I pitched to Vic, John "no, I am not Archie" McPhee's
"The Control of Nature". One of the three sections is on the endless attempts
to keep the Mississippi from going where it would really like to these days,
and there's quite a bit on N'Oleans, where the river basicly passes
overhead in some regions.
-- cary
.





User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 09:38:21 AM
on 03 Dec 2004 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

In our last episode <Xns95B2CC13FD2D2vicman@204.127.204.17>, Vic
Sagerquist lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1
was it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way
the hell out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge
was like. Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second
one was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)


Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows
hit.
Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How
surreal
can ya get?


<did I post this already? I've lost track>

I *never wanted to be up in one of those towers downtown. I know
they're designed for it and that swaying is part of what keeps them
from just crashing down but... <brrrrrrr>

Though when I lived in Long Beach, I used to cross the Vincent Thomas
all the time. I understand it wiggles. <g>

Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since
there was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched
a 5.5 aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway
like they would in a cartoon or something.

Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring
the bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...


Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier
quake was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one back
in 1857, Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the ground
from liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along the fault
a couple of hundred miles long. Without any other explanation for what
was happening, I can almost understand figuring somebody was *really
*pissed *off. <G>

I think that was the one - centered on the San Andreas in the Soda Lake
area. Since San Andreas is a Right-lateral Strike-Slip fault, several
rivers became offset and adopted "S" shapes. I live about ten miles south
of the Fault. I cancelled my earthquake insurance after there was no
damage during Northridge. I figure if the Big One hits in my lifetime, I'm
toast.


Poking around on the web, I ran across an interesting little map that
shows how widespread the effects of a (roughly) Northridge size quake
on the New Madrid fault would be. SoCal gets quakes so frequently, the
ground is fractured and broken up so the waves don't travel as well as
they would in the Missouri area. This is spooky:

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/Charleston1895.gi
f

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...

Thanks! I'll check it out.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
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User: "Mark K. Bilbo"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 09:11:26 PM
In our last episode <Xns95B44DDC3F93Bvicman@127.0.0.1>, Vic Sagerquist
lept out of the bushes shouting:

on 03 Dec 2004 in alt.atheism, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:

In our last episode <Xns95B2CC13FD2D2vicman@204.127.204.17>, Vic
Sagerquist lept out of the bushes shouting:

On 01 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:


Okay, now sleeping through Northridge impresses me.

I wasn't around for that one. Was back in time for Hector Mine. 7.1
was it? That was *quite a thrill ride even with the epicenter way the
hell out in the middle of nowhere. Can't imagine what Northridge was
like. Think I'd rather not know. <g>

(I was fairly close to the center of Whittier Narrows but the second
one was a 5.9... 6.8 is almost ten times stronger... <gulp>)


Yup. I was driving the 101 through downtown LA when Whittier Narrows
hit.
Coming to a slamming stop, I watched the big buildings sway. How
surreal
can ya get?


<did I post this already? I've lost track>

I *never wanted to be up in one of those towers downtown. I know they're
designed for it and that swaying is part of what keeps them from just
crashing down but... <brrrrrrr>

Though when I lived in Long Beach, I used to cross the Vincent Thomas
all the time. I understand it wiggles. <g>

Four hours after Northridge hit there was still dust rising from the
mountains between Valencia and Northridge. Around lunch time, since
there was nothing to do, with the electricity out and all, we watched a
5.5 aftershock grab our neighborhood and make the streetlights sway
like they would in a cartoon or something.

Damn, no wonder all these stupid religions came about, what, scaring
the bejezuz out of the cavemen and all...


Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier
quake was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one back
in 1857, Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the ground
from liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along the fault a
couple of hundred miles long. Without any other explanation for what was
happening, I can almost understand figuring somebody was *really *pissed
*off. <G>


I think that was the one - centered on the San Andreas in the Soda Lake
area. Since San Andreas is a Right-lateral Strike-Slip fault, several
rivers became offset and adopted "S" shapes. I live about ten miles south
of the Fault. I cancelled my earthquake insurance after there was no
damage during Northridge. I figure if the Big One hits in my lifetime,
I'm toast.

Well, you won't be *alone in being toast at least. And I didn't know you
were that close to the San Andreas. That could be... erm... fun? <g>
Funny what we humans can get used to huh? When I would tell people out
there about hurricanes, they'd react with "HOW COULD YOU LIVE WITH THAT?"
Then, over here, I talk about earthquakes and it's "HOW COULD YOU LIVE
WITH THAT?"
My only comment, having lived with both, is at least you can see a
hurricane *coming. Something which cannot be said for an earthquake.
Though, considering what a cluster ***** the evacuation for Ivan was, we're
all going to stuck in traffic if a big one hits and die anyway. <g>

Poking around on the web, I ran across an interesting little map that
shows how widespread the effects of a (roughly) Northridge size quake on
the New Madrid fault would be. SoCal gets quakes so frequently, the
ground is fractured and broken up so the waves don't travel as well as
they would in the Missouri area. This is spooky:

http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/Charleston1895.gi
f

I think I'd feel safer in LA than St. Louis...

Thanks! I'll check it out.

After seeing that map, I was very glad we only stayed around St. Louis
those two years when I was a kid and did not settle...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
-----------------------------------------------------------
"Being surprised at the fact that the universe
is fine tuned for life is akin to a puddle being
surprised at how well it fits its hole"
-- Douglas Adams
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User: "Vic Sagerquist"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 03 Dec 2004 11:32:59 PM
On 03 Dec 2004, Mark K. Bilbo dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:

Looking some of this up (I couldn't remember how strong the Whittier
quake was exactly), I ran across the last Really Big one. The one
back in 1857, Fort Tejon? Trees uprooted (some just sinking into the
ground from liquefaction), rivers reversing course, a rupture along
the fault a couple of hundred miles long. Without any other
explanation for what was happening, I can almost understand figuring
somebody was *really *pissed *off. <G>


I think that was the one - centered on the San Andreas in the Soda
Lake area. Since San Andreas is a Right-lateral Strike-Slip fault,
several rivers became offset and adopted "S" shapes. I live about
ten miles south of the Fault. I cancelled my earthquake insurance
after there was no damage during Northridge. I figure if the Big One
hits in my lifetime, I'm toast.


Well, you won't be *alone in being toast at least. And I didn't know
you were that close to the San Andreas. That could be... erm... fun?
<g>

It may be more like 15 miles... and definitely as the crow flies. The
section I'm talking about is along Pine Canyon in the Lake Hughes area.
Lots of fun motorcycling in the area. I guess if I had to die in an
earthquake, that would be the best way to go. Yeeeehaaaaaw! <splat>


Funny what we humans can get used to huh? When I would tell people out
there about hurricanes, they'd react with "HOW COULD YOU LIVE WITH
THAT?"

Then, over here, I talk about earthquakes and it's "HOW COULD YOU LIVE
WITH THAT?"

My only comment, having lived with both, is at least you can see a
hurricane *coming. Something which cannot be said for an earthquake.

I've only once been caught by one where I was in a position to find one
of the safe places you're supposed to look for. A few times I was in
bed, and it was over before I could pull my lazy ***** out from under the
covers. Once I was in the car (mentioned above - not much you can do
there except stop before you end up under a bridge.) Then once at work,
where I dove under my desk. I was the only one who did - that felt kinda
stupid.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
.







User: "John Popelish"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 01 Dec 2004 04:03:01 PM
stoney wrote:


Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/

Lots more at the source:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/News/
Check out the current images link.
--
John Popelish
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User: "stoney"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 02 Dec 2004 02:57:47 PM
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:03:01 -0500, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote:

stoney wrote:


Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/


Lots more at the source:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/News/

Check out the current images link.

Wild stuff, ta.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
.
User: "Cary Kittrell"

Title: Re: OT: Good Pics of Mt. St. Helens (US Washington State Volcano} 02 Dec 2004 03:06:36 PM
In article <0e0vq051f65desps9d8n25mmvem88coie2@4ax.com> stoney <stoney@the.net> writes:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:03:01 -0500, John Popelish <jpopelish@rica.net>
wrote:

stoney wrote:


Article and slide show.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6608875/


Lots more at the source:
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/News/

Check out the current images link.


Wild stuff, ta.

Wild tuff?
-- cary
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