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OT: Jaw dropping article |
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near
Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching
two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.
When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his
stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white
marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39
seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.
"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for
Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27
years I'd never seen anything move that fast."
Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no
official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever
written in the state.
After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100
mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead
to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.
The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old
Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving,
driving without a motorcycle license -- and driving 140 miles per hour
over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.
A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol
most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the
next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods
County.
Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A
working number for him could not immediately be found by The
Associated Press on Tuesday.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
© 2004 The Associated Press.
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| User: "turk" |
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22 Sep 2004 12:03:59 AM |
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<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near
Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching
two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.
When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his
stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white
marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39
seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.
"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for
Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27
years I'd never seen anything move that fast."
Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no
official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever
written in the state.
After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100
mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead
to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.
The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old
Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving,
driving without a motorcycle license -- and driving 140 miles per hour
over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.
A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol
most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the
next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods
County.
Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A
working number for him could not immediately be found by The
Associated Press on Tuesday.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
I can't believe their aren't more arrests and deaths for motorcycle riders.
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit and in almost 20 years of
driving I don't think I've ever passed a motorcylist on the road, but
thousands have blown by me. Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
turk
--
A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he
unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "Ike" |
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22 Sep 2004 06:47:49 AM |
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"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3J74d.24352$wV.23762@attbi_s54...
<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near
Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching
two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.
When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his
stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white
marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39
seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.
"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for
Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27
years I'd never seen anything move that fast."
Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no
official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever
written in the state.
After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100
mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead
to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.
The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old
Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving,
driving without a motorcycle license -- and driving 140 miles per hour
over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.
A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol
most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the
next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods
County.
Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A
working number for him could not immediately be found by The
Associated Press on Tuesday.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
I can't believe their aren't more arrests and deaths for motorcycle
riders.
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit and in almost 20 years of
driving I don't think I've ever passed a motorcylist on the road, but
thousands have blown by me. Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
turk
Since you usually drive 5 MPH over the limit you must realize that it is a
minimum speed limit, not a maximum.
--
Freedom of thought entails no "Intellectual Property".
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| User: "Sara Brum" |
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| Title: Re: Jaw dropping article |
22 Sep 2004 08:18:56 AM |
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"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3J74d.24352$wV.23762@attbi_s54...
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit ...
Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
Oh, the irony.
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| User: "Therion Ware" |
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22 Sep 2004 08:56:12 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:18:56 +1000 in alt.atheism, Sara Brum ("Sara
Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3J74d.24352$wV.23762@attbi_s54...
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit ...
Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
Oh, the irony.
Yeah, but it's a bit self-selecting, isn't it? If you're in a car you
only notice the ones who pass on the inside at least twice the speed
limit. If they do it right you never see them. Bit like horoscopes...
Mind you, my mum was a dentist who specialised in facial
reconstruction. When I was thinking of getting one (about a thousand
years ago, we're talking Norton here...) she brought back a load of
photos of "work in progress".
Not nice.
At the time it didn't dissuade me (well, when you're 17 you're
immortal, invulnerable and so on...) but I think what you have to
realise when you ride one of those beasts is that *you are
**incredibly** vulnerable to the mistakes of other people, as well as
your own.
The mistakes of others may help you, or those in your will, in the
courts, but, to coin a phrase, if you're going to get one of these
things, for Christsakes get taught to ride it by some one who knows
what they're doing.
And that's it.
--
"Do Unto Others As You Would Have Them Do Unto You."
- Attrib: Pauline Reage.
Inexpensive VHS & other video to CD/DVD conversion?
See: <http://www.Video2CD.com>. 35.00 gets your video on DVD.
all posts to this email address are automatically deleted without being read.
** atheist poster child #1 ** #442.
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 11:35:06 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:56:12 +0100, Therion Ware
<autodelete@city-of-dis.com> wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:18:56 +1000 in alt.atheism, Sara Brum ("Sara
Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com>) said, directing the reply to
alt.atheism
"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3J74d.24352$wV.23762@attbi_s54...
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit ...
Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
Oh, the irony.
Yeah, but it's a bit self-selecting, isn't it? If you're in a car you
only notice the ones who pass on the inside at least twice the speed
limit. If they do it right you never see them. Bit like horoscopes...
Mind you, my mum was a dentist who specialised in facial
reconstruction. When I was thinking of getting one (about a thousand
years ago, we're talking Norton here...) she brought back a load of
photos of "work in progress".
Not nice.
At the time it didn't dissuade me (well, when you're 17 you're
immortal, invulnerable and so on...) but I think what you have to
realise when you ride one of those beasts is that *you are
**incredibly** vulnerable to the mistakes of other people, as well as
your own.
The mistakes of others may help you, or those in your will, in the
courts, but, to coin a phrase, if you're going to get one of these
things, for Christsakes get taught to ride it by some one who knows
what they're doing.
And that's it.
In the US there are Motorcycle Safety Foundation riding courses
available. Highly recommended.
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 11:06:42 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:18:56 +1000, "Sara Brum" <sarabrum@medulla.com>
wrote:
"turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3J74d.24352$wV.23762@attbi_s54...
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit ...
Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
Oh, the irony.
Thanks, you saved me the trouble of noting the disparity.
Kinda like a Porsche driver saying "I usually drive 25-30mph over the
speed limit...'cos I can. But those other drivers really ***** me off."
Well then, fine...I run stop signs because my brakes don't work, ditto
yield signs. I ignore school zone signs because, well, kids, they're
young and can get out of the way. Stop lights because they take too
long. I don't use turn signals because I believe that can cause carpal
tunnel syndrome. Seat belts because they cause infertility. I don't
maintain my vehicle because, hey, that costs money. So if anything
falls off, get over it. I'm a victim, man.
--
zamboni
#2139
Denigrator of Theists
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| User: "raven1" |
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22 Sep 2004 02:51:07 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 05:03:59 GMT, "turk" <turk96@attbi.com> wrote:
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit
That's very inconsiderate towards the average driver who wants to go
at 10 mph above it.
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| User: "Brian L" |
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22 Sep 2004 12:19:38 AM |
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turk wrote:
<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
On Saturday afternoon, State Patrol pilot Al Loney was flying near
Wabasha, in southeastern Minnesota on the Wisconsin border, watching
two motorcyclists racing along U.S. Highway 61.
When one of the riders shot forward, Loney was ready with his
stopwatch. He clicked it once when the motorcycle reached a white
marker on the road and again a quarter-mile later. The watch read 4.39
seconds, which Loney calculated to be 205 mph.
"I was in total disbelief," Loney told the St. Paul Pioneer Press for
Tuesday's editions. "I had to double-check my watch because in 27
years I'd never seen anything move that fast."
Several law enforcement sources told the newspaper that, although no
official records are kept, it was probably the fastest ticket ever
written in the state.
After about three-quarters of a mile, the biker slowed to about 100
mph and let the other cycle catch up. By then Loney had radioed ahead
to another state trooper, who pulled the two over soon afterward.
The State Patrol officer arrested the faster rider, 20-year-old
Stillwater resident Samuel Armstrong Tilley, for reckless driving,
driving without a motorcycle license -- and driving 140 miles per hour
over the posted speed limit of 65 mph.
A search of speeding tickets written by state troopers, who patrol
most of the state's highways, between 1990 and February 2004 shows the
next fastest ticket was for 150 mph in 1994 in Lake of the Woods
County.
Tilley did not return calls from the newspaper to his home Monday. A
working number for him could not immediately be found by The
Associated Press on Tuesday.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
I can't believe their aren't more arrests and deaths for motorcycle riders.
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit and in almost 20 years of
driving I don't think I've ever passed a motorcylist on the road, but
thousands have blown by me. Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
turk
I was probably one of those goof-balls passing you. I know this will
sound a little odd but it's not if you think about it. The most
dangerous part of driving a motorcycle on the highway is the
invisibility factor. You have to "make believe" no one can see
you--because they often don't. So if you linger long beside
someone---you are in danger of their pulling over into your lane on top
of you. People also tend to be almost on top of a motorcyclist (from
behind) before they see him--if the see him.
So, oddly enough, going just fast enough to continually pass most other
drivers seems a bit safer than maintaining the same speed as them. This
makes it easier to keep an eye on other drivers and gives other drivers
less of a chance to creep up on you or not see you. And when you pass,
you go just a bit faster (motorcycles accelerate REALLY well) so you can
get on by the danger of driving alongside a car.
Brian
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 11:33:44 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 00:19:38 -0500, Brian L
<delete_brian@thisisalabamafootball.com> wrote:
turk wrote:
<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
[]
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
I can't believe their aren't more arrests and deaths for motorcycle riders.
I usually drive about 5mph over the speed limit and in almost 20 years of
driving I don't think I've ever passed a motorcylist on the road, but
thousands have blown by me. Unfortunately, the majority of motorcyclists
don't think speed limits apply to them.
turk
I was probably one of those goof-balls passing you. I know this will
sound a little odd but it's not if you think about it. The most
dangerous part of driving a motorcycle on the highway is the
invisibility factor. You have to "make believe" no one can see
you--because they often don't. So if you linger long beside
someone---you are in danger of their pulling over into your lane on top
of you. People also tend to be almost on top of a motorcyclist (from
behind) before they see him--if the see him.
Yep. I've had that happen.
So, oddly enough, going just fast enough to continually pass most other
drivers seems a bit safer than maintaining the same speed as them. This
makes it easier to keep an eye on other drivers and gives other drivers
less of a chance to creep up on you or not see you. And when you pass,
you go just a bit faster (motorcycles accelerate REALLY well) so you can
get on by the danger of driving alongside a car.
Brian
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22 Sep 2004 06:27:40 PM |
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news:10l22qa9vm9oa38@corp.supernews.com by Brian L
<delete_brian@thisisalabamafootball.com>:
The most
dangerous part of driving a motorcycle on the highway is the
invisibility factor. You have to "make believe" no one can see
you--because they often don't.
Last Friday night, I pulled out in front of a motorcycle. His headlight
was lined-up with the far headlight of the car behind him and I did not
see him until I pulled half way out and changed the paralax. I pulled over
after that to ask myself how I could have prevented that from happening. I
could not come up with an answer.
--
Ferrous Patella (Homo gerardii)
"Nature as God's "reality" show - what a concept!"
--A t.o. poster who wishes to remain anonymous
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23 Sep 2004 05:52:39 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 23:27:40 GMT, Ferrous Patella <mail125797@pop.net>
wrote:
news:10l22qa9vm9oa38@corp.supernews.com by Brian L
<delete_brian@thisisalabamafootball.com>:
The most
dangerous part of driving a motorcycle on the highway is the
invisibility factor. You have to "make believe" no one can see
you--because they often don't.
Last Friday night, I pulled out in front of a motorcycle. His headlight
was lined-up with the far headlight of the car behind him and I did not
see him until I pulled half way out and changed the paralax. I pulled over
after that to ask myself how I could have prevented that from happening. I
could not come up with an answer.
In such a circumstance all you could do was make room.
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22 Sep 2004 11:19:49 AM |
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<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I've ridden motorcycles for about fifteen years now and the fastest I've
ever gone was 140 mph on a GS700. That was plenty fast enough for me.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor
modifications, they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000,
Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
". . .unless he was wearing the kind of protective gear. . ."?! What kind
of protective gear will keep you alive at 200 mph? I mean, even if you were
ENCASED IN CARBONITE you would still be dead. Dead. Dead. That's right
folks, enough 'dead' for three people!
Raptor514
http://DaveBills.com
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23 Sep 2004 06:40:24 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:19:49 +0000, Raptor514 wrote:
<stoney@the.net> wrote in message
news:42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com...
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit the
throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest speeding
ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I've ridden motorcycles for about fifteen years now and the fastest I've
ever gone was 140 mph on a GS700. That was plenty fast enough for me.
Only a handful of exotic sports cars can reach 200 mph, but many
high-performance motorcycles can top 175 mph. With minor modifications,
they can hit 200 mph. Tilley was riding a Honda 1000, Loney said.
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
". . .unless he was wearing the kind of protective gear. . ."?! What kind
of protective gear will keep you alive at 200 mph? I mean, even if you
were ENCASED IN CARBONITE you would still be dead. Dead. Dead. That's
right folks, enough 'dead' for three people!
Raptor514
http://DaveBills.com
The things that kill you in a MVC are: rapid deceleration, fire, or
impalement. When you see a race car in a spectacular crash, doing
cartwheels down the track, the driver often walks away because he was
bleeding off his speed gradually. It's the guy who hits the wall at 180
mph who tears his aorta, or gets a massive head injury.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "johac" |
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22 Sep 2004 01:08:25 AM |
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In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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22 Sep 2004 04:37:43 AM |
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In article <jhachm-F4A581.23082521092004@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
And they're armored! {;-)
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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24 Sep 2004 12:48:22 AM |
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In article <nemo0037-9012C4.05374322092004@news3.east.earthlink.net>,
*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <jhachm-F4A581.23082521092004@news.giganews.com>,
johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com> wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
And they're armored! {;-)
Yep. I don't think that a helmet would help much at that speed.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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22 Sep 2004 11:35:49 PM |
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:08:25 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
Heck, I've has a large bug hit my faceshield at 70. Head snaps back.
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24 Sep 2004 12:47:21 AM |
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In article <5kk4l0dlp7s8qfdnel0hfu74go3it5r2r3@4ax.com>,
wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:08:25 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
Heck, I've has a large bug hit my faceshield at 70. Head snaps back.
What I mean is if you hit something at 200 mph, you'd be the bug.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
-The ability to change one's mind, ideas, and opinions when confronted with
new facts is the sign of the rational and intelligent. The inability to do
so is the hallmark of the dimwitted and the fanatic. This applies not only
to science and philosophy, but also to politics.-
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24 Sep 2004 07:12:21 PM |
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 22:47:21 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <5kk4l0dlp7s8qfdnel0hfu74go3it5r2r3@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:08:25 -0700, johac <jhachm@ixpresremove.com>
wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
http://wcco.com/localnews/local_story_265090112.html
WCCO | wcco.com
Motorcyclist Arrested For Driving 205 MPH
Sep 21, 2004 7:58 am US/Central
With a State Patrol airplane overhead, a Stillwater motorcyclist hit
the throttle and possibly set the informal record for the fastest
speeding ticket in Minnesota history: 205 mph.
I don't think that's a record that I would try to break.
"I'm not entirely sure what would happen if you crashed at 200 miles
per hour," Swanson said. "But it wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure."
Ever see what happens when a bug hits your windshield?
Heck, I've has a large bug hit my faceshield at 70. Head snaps back.
What I mean is if you hit something at 200 mph, you'd be the bug.
A very short trip.....
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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22 Sep 2004 04:37:00 AM |
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In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Tapio Erola" |
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22 Sep 2004 01:19:45 PM |
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*nemo* <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> writes:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph?
Nope. Theoretically possible, given a really-low-probability chain of
events, but IMHO you'd have better odds in a lottery.
(Theist version: Only with Divine Intervention.)
More probably the cops would have to collect the smeared remnants from
area several hundreds of meters long.
What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Nothing within motorcycle carrying capability would make much
difference, I think. Even professional gear is directed against
lesser things like "road rash".
--
Tapio Erola (No mail to please!)
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."
--Voltaire
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| User: "AoXaMaXoA" |
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22 Sep 2004 05:50:34 PM |
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*nemo* wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Ask this guy ....
http://www.pureguts.com/sdm.asp?pg=stories&specific=1 .....
Ron Cook (CEO - Founder) 12 time world speed record holder and Guinness
Record for "Survivor of the World's Fastest Motorcycle Crash -- 200MPH"
The moment I feared most in life, crashing my motorcycle at 200 MPH,
happened on July 12, 1998 at 1:43P.M. At El Mirage Dry Lake.
I had often thought how I would handle an emergency situation such as
this and it seems as if I was mentally prepared when it finally did
happen. Practicing emergency procedures such as I have routinely
practiced from my over 20 years experience flying and working in
aviation has always been a part of my daily life. As l write this, I
can't help but feel that those sessions of planning and preparing may
have saved my life, not once but twice.
My goal this year was to go over 200 MPH and join all three 200 MPH
Clubs. Everything was in the right place as well. Plus, owning and
riding a proven motorcycle that has exceeded 200 MPH would help me
accomplish my goals.
The 1998 season started right where I left off, driving home and
reflecting about the last El Mirage meet of 1997; having Set another
record in the M-F 1350 Class at 195.103 MPH and securing the motorcycle
points championship. I had also set four Bonneville & five dry lakes
records that year and was determined to set more than that for 1998.
The next five months were spent building two new engines for the 1000 cc
& 1350 cc classes, modifying my nitrous system to handle the 200 extra
horsepower, inspecting and doing preventative maintenance on the
chassis. I worked over 80 hours a month on this program so I could he
well prepared and ready for the first meet of 1998 at Muroc dry lake.
(Edwards AFB CA).
I chose my 1325 cc engine for the first meet, which was tuned for 285
horsepower, which was good for 206 MPH and an entry into the Muroc 2
Club. My starting position was number 6 on race day, which meant good
running conditions for Saturday morning. It started out in fine order
with everything going as planned. I was suited up and ready to go at the
starting line when Bob Higbee, the chief starter, gave me the signal to
go. This was a 1.5-mile course with plenty of time to get up to speed
for a 200 MPH record.
What happened next was a complete surprise to me, a front wheel wobble
started while I was in 4th gear. When I hit 2 bumps on the track at the
one-mile mark, it was rapidly getting more pronounced and violent. My
reaction was to tighten my grip on the handlebars and to apply more
power to try and lighten the load on the front wheel so as to regain
control of the severe headshake. I soon ran out of engine RPM and was
running past redline while hitting my rev limiter. I wasn't able to
improve my situation of the severe tank slapper, using the brakes or
shifting into fifth gear were not options, for both would surely put me
into the ground.
Through all my years of riding and racing, this was the worst headshake
I had ever experienced. I couldn't hang on any longer or I would surely
get tangled into the bike if it went down. I made the decision to jump
and get away from the bike and not risk this 500-pound machine landing
on top of me at 175 MPH. No one has ever written a book on how to get
off a bike at high speeds while straight up, but it was the option I
chose to take. My planned move was to put my hands up to get away from
the handlebars, since I couldn't hang on any longer due to the high
frequency and speed of the wobble. As the wind caught my upper body it
lifted me off the bike with a good angle of attack so as to land on my
backside for a planned high-speed slide. Everything was looking good
until something grabbed my right foot and slammed my body down into the
dirt on the bikes left side. What I saw next was my spinning rear tire
and the dirt rooster tail following me as I counted the number of chain
links going around the rear sprocket at 175 MPH. At this point I knew I
was in real trouble. How was I going to get out of this one?
My first thought was to relax and analyze the problem. The first thing
was to keep my head and right arm out of the rear wheel and prevent it
from being sucked into the rotating wheel or possibly getting it thrown
into the sharp metal of the rear fender. I told myself it was going to
be a long ride sliding on my back while my left arm and hand was
extended out palm down trying to balance myself. I was sliding on the
dirt and trying to maintain the minimum amount of friction on any one
part of my body due to the enormous amount of heat buildup and for fear
of wearing through my leathers and grinding away my flesh.
Several moments had passed by and I knew I would not last much longer in
this position so I tried grabbing the top of my rear fender in an
attempt to pull myself back onto the bike or at least off the ground. I
couldn't get a good grip and feared losing my arm if I fell into the
spinning rear wheel. My next move was to do a 180-degree turn onto my
front side while trying to figure out what my right foot was hung up on.
My concern on this move was, would I go under my rear tire or hang up my
left leg, but I felt I didn't have any other choices. Now I’m sliding on
the face of my helmet and on both of my hands as I was struggling to
free my right foot. Then suddenly my right foot broke free of the bike
and I was sliding on my backside again watching the bike go on by
itself. I tumbled a few times and came to a stop, stunned by O.K.
I ended up sliding about 1,000 feet. A new record for me, one I don't
wish to repeat. The emergency crew was there right away and checked me
out for any injuries. There was nothing serious other than some road
rash due to friction burns; I had blisters on all my left fingers,
bruises to both feet and a sore right leg. I walked off the course in
relatively good shape.
When I went to the side of the course by the timing tower, I noticed a
cameraman looking at me in disbelief. He was concerned if I was O.K. and
I told him I was. I asked him if he happened to catch that amazing run
on camera and he informed me that he caught it all. He noticed that I
was in serious trouble and saw that I was struggling to free myself from
the bike. "It was very nice of you to drop off In front of the camera,"
he says. I couldn't believe it was all caught on film and of all people
it was "Speedvision." This is one run I definitely don't want to miss on TV.
Mike Mangelli and the other track workers picked up my bike about 1 or 2
miles away. After it was loaded, with the help of the Raspberry Rocket
crew, I called a frame alignment and took it straight over there for a
complete frame and steering Inspection. Everything was within tolerance
and no damage was done. The first El Mirage meet was coming up in two
weeks, and I had a meeting with (TLC) 'Extreme Machines', so I wanted to
make sure everything was in good working order.
The next two weeks were spent working on new triple clamps made by my
friend Richard Sirns with more steering trail added for more stability.
This bike had never had a steering wobble in the five years of racing
before this accident. There was also a new shimmy dampener installed for
extra safety. I felt confident and ready for the next El Mirage meet on
July 12,1998.
I met with the Extreme Machines crew the day before to discuss what
shots they wanted and to install the two miniature cameras on the bike
for the race day film shoot. Sunday morning came and we shot some pre
race footage, then it was on to the starting line. The cameras were
mounted on a backpack for some footage going down the track at 130 MPH.
My first run was completed but the cameras didn't work due to the high
demand of battery power for the two cameras.
I did a second run, this time with a huge belt battery pack to power the
cameras. This run was successful with excellent results in the film
playback. Now it was time to get to the business at hand and go for a
record run. Everything is looking good as I got in line again and I
carefully checked the bike over again. I had tuned the bike to go 10 MPH
faster than my last record of 195.103 MPH. I planned to get the 200 MPH
record and still be easy on my engine for I still had another 100
horsepower that could be added. My intention was to set it up for future
runs at Bonneville and I had high hopes it would run 215 MPH unfaired.
Everything about my final run was normal and solid with no hint of
trouble. I passed through the timing lights safely, shut down the
nitrous and started to roll off the throttle when I suddenly felt the
rear of the bike start to weave ever so slightly. A few moments later it
went into a massive rear wheel weave. Experience taught me to accelerate
out of the rear wheel weave problem, except I was going 200 MPH. The
only way for me to apply power at that speed would be to hit the nitrous
again, but I elected not to due to the violent nature of horsepower the
nitrous would produce. It could make a bad situation worse. Then the
shaking turned really violent. I hung on real tight and remembered
thinking, "Oh No! Not again! Boy this is really going to hurt"!
Suddenly I was pitched off in a cloud of dust, tumbling endlessly at 200
MPH down the track. I told myself to hang loose and it will end soon. It
took all of my energy to repeat that in my head over and over again
until finally, I came to a stop. I knew from experience not to tighten
up or straighten your arms and legs as you tumble because that is when
you start breaking body parts and causing severe injury. I think of all
those drunk drivers who survived all those horrible crashes while the
sober drivers were killed or severely injured. They say I slid and
tumbled more than 600 feet.
To describe the sensation I felt when I was tumbling and sliding is to
say, it was like closing your eyes and spinning around and around, like
in a dryer, and not knowing when or if it would stop. It seemed like an
eternity and when I finally came to a stop, I was flat out on my back
looking up at that beautiful blue sky and bright shining sun, Was I
alive? I started a body function checkout while the emergency crew was
trying to reach me. I moved ever so slightly my head, neck, back, torso,
left arm, right arm, & left leg, everything moved until I got to the
right leg. I lifted my right leg up but the leg went up while the right
foot stayed on the ground. HMMM! I wasn't going to walk away from this
one! I waited for the emergency team for a second time in a row. (We've
got to stop meeting like this guys!)
The emergency crew had the same familiar faces that I saw at the Muroc
crash. I was alert and conscience throughout the crash and landing. So
the emergency crew asked me if I was hurt and I responded with a big
"Yes, my right leg is broken." Their second question was, "Do you want
an ambulance this time?" I uttered another big "Yes." Meanwhile Lee
Kennedy removed both of my gloves and found both hands were badly
damaged and swollen. I then asked Lee if all of my body parts were still
attached and normal looking due to my adrenaline flow and not being able
to visually evaluate myself. Lee responded, "Everything is in its right
place with nothing missing." What a relief to hear that!
As the emergency crew put me on the stretcher they told me they would
leave my body positioned as they found it and told me not to move any
limbs for that would be the most comfortable position for the one hour
drive to the Victorville Hospital. Once inside the ambulance I asked the
EMT if he could give me a painkiller but he replied that he could not
give a traveling patient any medication because they were concerned with
the fact that there could be internal bleeding and any medication could
mask the symptoms. Just my luck!
When we got to the hospital and the emergency crew started to work on me
they asked if I wanted to slip the leathers off to which I responded,
"H__L NO! Cut the D__N things off!" The pain was excruciating at this
point. Luckily my brother John and Mike Burns arrived to help the
doctors. They had to tell them what happened and why I was going 200
mph, it was hard for them to believe what happened. Unfortunately or
perhaps in my case fortunately, Victorville Hospital was not equipped to
handle trauma patients. After five hours in the emergency ward and
somewhat stabilized, but not out of trouble because of possible internal
bleeding, my brother arranged another ambulance, which transported me to
Loma Linda University Medical Center where I stayed for nine days. Two
surgeons took care of my right leg, which was broken in five places and
my right arm and wrist, broken in four places. They also treated me for
a large amount of friction burns and bruises.
I was sent home in a wheelchair and supplied with a hospital bed. The
nurses came daily to take care of the friction burns, and I'm facing a
lot of rehab. The bike is a pile of junk. Everything was destroyed
including the engine. It was a very violent crash which was filmed by
Brazeau Videos and will be aired on "Extreme Machines," "Real TV,"
"American Hot Rodder," and God knows where else. I was finally able to
finish my interview with "Extreme Machines" and "Real TV" from my
wheelchair in September.
I was very lucky to live let alone have all of my faculties and limbs
intact and functional. I had a great team of doctors, nurses. Friends
and supporters throughout my recovery along with the SCTA and friends in
Santa Barbara, a special thanks to the El Mirage Ladies Auxiliary, who
were there when I really needed the help.
A BIG THANK YOU TO THEM ALL!
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| User: "Tapio Erola" |
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23 Sep 2004 04:08:07 AM |
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AoXaMaXoA <not@available.com> writes:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at
200+ mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Ask this guy ....
http://www.pureguts.com/sdm.asp?pg=stories&specific=1 .....
This guy got
a) Smooth racetrack
b) Professional help standing by
c) 20 Years of training in emergency procedures
d) Mind like a steel trap
e) Nerves like Chromium Steel
f) Blood like Liquid He3
g) Luck of Gladstone Gander
Also note that he holds a Guinness World Record for this little
escapade, according to the article. Which means that this has
been done _once_...
--
Tapio Erola (No mail to please!)
"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."
--Voltaire
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| User: "AoXaMaXoA" |
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23 Sep 2004 05:35:53 PM |
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Tapio Erola wrote:
AoXaMaXoA <not@available.com> writes:
*nemo* wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
stoney@the.net wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at
200+ mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Ask this guy ....
http://www.pureguts.com/sdm.asp?pg=stories&specific=1 .....
This guy got
a) Smooth racetrack
b) Professional help standing by
c) 20 Years of training in emergency procedures
d) Mind like a steel trap
e) Nerves like Chromium Steel
f) Blood like Liquid He3
g) Luck of Gladstone Gander
Also note that he holds a Guinness World Record for this little
escapade, according to the article. Which means that this has
been done _once_...
Hi Tapio Erola,
The question was "Is it really feasible for a human to survive a
motorcycle crash at 200+ mph?
And once is enough to answer yes to the first part, is it not ?
As you seem to suggest and I agree, if you crash your bike at 200+ mph
on a city street or even your local highway you can kiss your ***** good bye.
And if you do survive you'll probably wish you didn't.
From the article ...
" Two surgeons took care of my right leg, which was broken in five
places and my right arm and wrist, broken in four places. They also
treated me for a large amount of friction burns and bruises.
I was sent home in a wheelchair and supplied with a hospital bed. The
nurses came daily to take care of the friction burns, and I'm facing a
lot of rehab. The bike is a pile of junk. Everything was destroyed
including the engine. It was a very violent crash "
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| User: "Lord Calvert" |
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22 Sep 2004 08:56:27 AM |
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Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
A functioning brain
Rich Goranson, Amherst, NY, USA (aa#MCMXCIX, a-vet#1)
EAC Department of Applied Rattan Use
"Without faith we might relapse into scientific or rational thinking, which
leads by a slippery slope toward constitutional democracy." - Robert Anton
Wilson
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| User: "Glenn Arnold" |
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23 Sep 2004 06:31:55 PM |
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Lord Calvert wrote:
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
A functioning brain
Literally. This seems like the kind of impossible situation that would
get a lot of people trying to work out a solution.
I saw a stuntman dragged behind a top-fuel dragster one time on TV. He
wore a leather suit with metal inserts in the knees, elbows, ankles and
chest I think, to function as skids. There was only a couple of inches
of metal between him and the ground. He threw a lot of sparks, but
walked away with no injuries. I don't know how fast he went, but it was
pretty fast.
I'm sure the drag strip was very carefully prepared, so it had nothing
to catch on. He slid in a straight line. I imagine it would be
theoretically possible to "lay down" a motorcycle at 200 mph and slide
to a stop, using this method. Does this count as a crash?
Glenn Arnold
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| User: "" |
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22 Sep 2004 11:37:07 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:37:00 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph?
No.
What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Automatic foamed roadway ahead with 'bumpers' to keep you from going
off the road as well as traffic diverters.
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| User: "raven1" |
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22 Sep 2004 02:54:58 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:37:00 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph?
Not as long as F = ma, I'd think...
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| User: "John M Price PhD" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Jaw dropping article |
22 Sep 2004 09:03:19 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <g9m3l0ttlkd7ubilhnhbb95a53rejj9t6q@4ax.com> raven1 <quoththeraven@nevermore.com> wrote:
: On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:37:00 GMT, *nemo*
: <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
: >In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
: >wrote:
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: >> Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
: >> was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
: >> wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
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: >Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
: >mph?
: Not as long as F = ma, I'd think...
Or K = .5m * v^2 / g
That v^2 will get you every time.
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| User: "Puck Greenman" |
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| Title: Re: OT: Jaw dropping article |
22 Sep 2004 10:00:35 AM |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 09:37:00 GMT, *nemo*
<nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote:
In article <42o2l057kkfp3mtr3snfqjil8b5dvm3t8u@4ax.com>,
wrote:
Kathy Swanson of the state Office of Traffic Safety said unless Tilley
was wearing the kind of protective gear professional motorcycle racers
wear, he was courting death at 200 mph.
Is it really feasible for a human to survive a motorcycle crash at 200+
mph? What sort of "protective gear" could help?
Ejector seat, and parachute?
--
Puck Greenman
#162
BAAWA Knight.
Blesed is the self righteous xtian,
for his is the sure and certain knowledge
that no matter what load of tripe he
comes out with:
God told him to say it.
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